Forum thread: #12 Remaining!

2021-01-08 21:07

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ok HauntedFamily fan

2021-01-08 21:25

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man there is Kiyaru be crfl

2021-01-08 21:33

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? none of what you said makes sense

2021-01-09 20:14

not ok, there has to be xantares i think

2021-01-09 22:56

no shoxie?

2021-01-08 21:08

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got robbed

2021-01-08 21:08

ofc not...

2021-01-08 21:16

No Xantares??

2021-01-08 21:16

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biggest robbery ever

2021-01-09 20:56

ofc not, 1.05 rating

2021-01-08 21:49

top40 player of 2020 so improvement from 2019 I guess

2021-01-09 20:19

JUSTICE FOR VALDE AND MANTU

2021-01-08 21:10

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won nothing in 2020, not even mvp or evp

2021-01-08 21:11

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valde mvp flashpoint 2 but ok , anyways OG is shitting on everyone with their low firepower

2021-01-08 21:13

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That's because they have an IGL of the same caliber as karrigan and gla1ve. If OG actually had firepower they would have won IEM NY and FP2 and possibly won a true elite level event with all the stacked big teams like astralis, vitality etc etc in the running.

2021-01-08 21:16

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karrigan definitely not same caliber as gla1ve

2021-01-08 21:20

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To be fair I consider aleksib to be an upgraded and much improved version of karrigan at least tactically. You need a more structured leading style going to 2021 an onward to win big titles against astralis and vitality anyway. All he needs is actually reliable tier 1 individuals on the roster and the trophies will come. Ever since that blast madrid 2019 where ENCE basically won 3-0 in maps against astralis (nuke, train, dust2) I was actually seeing aleksib outcalling gla1ve himself and always thought its going to be great if you see this guy with good enough firepower on his team. ENCE sort of had it just barely, but there were internal issues already then apparently that we all know by now.

2021-01-08 21:28

aleksib>karrigan kinda , he can actually frag and has ok rating also lets not mention gla1ve who is the best igl ever and you cant deny that. But i think OG are happy with what they achieved for their first year , top 10 atm and good performances sometimes , they have a lot of work to do even they said that.

2021-01-08 21:24

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TLDR, but agree on aleksib being the best and hottest igl to ever exist

2021-01-08 21:28

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yeah i can agree on that

2021-01-08 21:40

2021-01-09 09:12

How do you know mantuu has no evps?

2021-01-08 21:19

thats what i was gonna say

2021-01-08 22:22

+1 -jks -kscerato -brehze -hen1 +mantuu +xantares +k0nfig +valde and rankings make sense

2021-01-09 20:34

-dupreeh and magisk, +k0nfig and mantuu

2021-01-08 21:11

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dupreeh and magisk were on crack this year bro

2021-01-08 21:55

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so k0nfig won't be in the top-20 when Krimz got there? :)

2021-01-08 22:01

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Y-E-S

2021-01-08 22:23

it will honestly be a meme if konfig wont be there but if we follow your 0 iq logic so magisk wont be in the top 20 when krimz got there? :)

2021-01-09 08:58

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There are 12 places left, 100% in this list will be 10 people: S1mple, Zywoo, device, Niko, blameF, ropz, electronic, Elige, Syrson, stavn, There are 2 places left for at least 3 people, who were 100% better than Krimz: Dupreeh, Magisk, k0nfig. Plus a lot of people who were no worse than krimz: mantuu, Valde, Xantares, mir, Naf, shox, Cadian, Tabsen etc. But some of them do not get into the top 20, because hltv decided to put Krimz in this top for some strange reason,

2021-01-09 10:26

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yeah i also dfk why krimz is on top 20 but if i had to guess konfig wont be in the top 20

2021-01-09 11:12

konfig was only good last 3 months

2021-01-09 12:07

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brollan was only good first three months

2021-01-09 22:09

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ok but he got mvp

2021-01-09 22:49

If be honest, Magisk dropped off this year, he was much better in 2018 and 2019. I know that it's because of IGLing, but still :/

2021-01-09 12:38

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he was lit this year though

2021-01-09 15:00

No bro compare dupreeh and xantares or mantuu dupreeh shouldn't be on top20

2021-01-09 20:12

Not gonna happen because JKS, krimz and brehze were better according to hltv ;D

2021-01-09 20:41

xantares has better stats than dupreeh and dupreh 9th xD

2021-01-08 21:13

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didn't even attend Kato 2020 though, which has huge impact on the rankings so far Also less consistent

2021-01-08 21:14

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I just wrote all the stats also notable stats and looks like xantares has better stats even I have put number of kills there are big difference

2021-01-08 21:14

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1.01 rating against top5 opponents isn't exactly great either I'm sure he missed out on the rankings

2021-01-08 21:15

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they dont look just top5 they put top50 filter then write the stats thats it xantares #13 place on rating dupreeh #20

2021-01-08 21:17

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Hahaha, if only it were so simple :D. He did deserve to be on the list. And his only option is 11th-12th place. If he doesn't get that, it's highly unlikely he gets any higher.

2021-01-08 21:23

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But earlier on you said that elite events matter? XANTARES is 1.03 there, btw

2021-01-08 22:52

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Many things matter, and if a player does well on everything, they get a great rank. When somethings are amiss, their rank goes down. Hunter had a decent rating in elite events, but he had the lowest play-offs rating in the entire Top20 list so far. So, he couldn't go higher than 13th. I don't know Xantares's play-offs rating, but his elite events rating is low. That being said, he has many accolades, and overall ratings aren't too bad. It is possible for him to get 12th or so, in case other players have the overall sum lesser than his.

2021-01-09 04:47

no they surely dont do that. they weight stats from big events WAAAY more than overall stats vs top50 teams. thats why krimz was there and thats why xantares most likely wont be there

2021-01-08 21:39

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we'll see

2021-01-08 22:16

same as jks on top5 but in online era, top5 top10 doesnt mean at all, because everyone can beat everyone

2021-01-08 22:20

i feel like he deserves a place but who the hell would he replace :/ i hope -dupreeh +xantares, for sure both of them deserve it over everyone so far though...

2021-01-09 12:08

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-jks -kscerato -brehze -hen1 +mantuu +xantares +k0nfig +valde and rankings make sense

2021-01-09 20:41

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flag checks out

2021-01-09 20:42

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I'm proud of that

2021-01-09 20:46

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good

2021-01-09 20:47

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nice name btw

2021-01-09 20:48

-EliGe

2021-01-08 21:13

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I wish tell hltv

2021-01-08 21:14

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Elige is a top 3 rifler on lan lmao

2021-01-08 21:38

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2020 80% online.

2021-01-08 22:24

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Yeah and elige is still top 11 let that sink in

2021-01-08 23:24

1) ZywOo 2) s1mple 3) device 4) NiKo 5) Elec 6) BlameF 7) ropz 8) syrsoN 9) elige 10) dupreeh

2021-01-08 21:14

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BlameF hogher than ROPZ? NO WAY

2021-01-08 21:59

Ropz higher

2021-01-09 12:10

ArT and XANTARES?

2021-01-08 21:16

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xantares robbed by NA Inconsistency, 1.01 rating against top5 and not attending iem katowice will cost him art 0 chance ever

2021-01-08 21:17

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ArT best player on Furia. And how would it be possible that a team that was in the top 7 for half of the year and jumping to the no1 spot would only have 1 player in the top 20?

2021-01-08 21:19

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Vitality top 2 but only 1 player in top 20

2021-01-08 21:21

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+1 dude has bad logic. Vitality was also #1 for a long time and heroic were too and they might have 1 in top 20

2021-01-09 05:32

Stavn had <1 Rating in the first half of 2020, don't be so sure he's in.

2021-01-08 21:20

dupreeh 9 XD

2021-01-08 21:22

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wait and see He had an amazing 2020 and quite underrated IMO

2021-01-08 21:23

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i think magisk>dupreeh btw

2021-01-08 21:36

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Might happen since their rating is the same, but Magisk had an amazing katowice

2021-01-08 21:37

stavn dupreeh or xantares. one of them will be missed out really wondering who it is.

2021-01-08 21:23

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Magisk is more likely to be missing rather than Dupreeh IMO

2021-01-08 21:28

-stavn +xantares

2021-01-08 21:26

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Stavn has: Equal rating against top50 and top20 More impact 0.08 higher rating against top5 Actual consistency

2021-01-08 21:28

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Xantares have 1 mvp and they have won 1 LAN tournament in 2020, It's going to be hard choise

2021-01-08 21:42

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cmon bruh we both know that lan was a joke, it didnt actually feature any real top 10 teams at the time

2021-01-08 21:55

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Youre right but why na players are in top20??? They never match against top10 team.

2021-01-08 22:26

Does it matter man in 2020 we have 3 lan event and one is it.

2021-01-08 23:26

but savn is 12yrs old

2021-01-08 23:44

No, that's wrong. You're using the TopX filter. Look at the featured ratings for ratings *against* TopX opponents. Check my last thread for evidence (it's verified). In case you want a live proof, check #179 of my last thread.

2021-01-09 04:59

I really doubt that syrson will make top10 Very unlikely to happen imo

2021-01-08 21:35

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Pretty likely when you consider his competetion 1.2 impact in 2020 against top20 and actual good stats against toptier competetion hltv.org/stats/players/7266/syrson?start..

2021-01-08 21:38

Xantares > stavn

2021-01-08 21:45

no broky

2021-01-08 21:49

s1mple top-1

2021-01-08 21:50

XANTARES will be there

2021-01-08 21:51

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x to doubt

2021-01-08 22:11

xantares?

2021-01-08 22:11

dupreeh and magisk are not going to make it. mark my words. Only device will make it from astralis

2021-01-08 22:18

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at least one of dupreeh or magisk will 100% make it in, probably both Mark my words

2021-01-08 22:43

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Magisk is gonna make it cuz he was too good on katowice but dupreeh wont make it maybe XANTARES or mantuu could replace him so 2 astralis member are gonna be on top20

2021-01-09 20:17

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Sadly both Mantuu and Xantares really deserved top20 over players like krimz, jks, brehze, hen1 and kscerato but 0% chance at this point They wont get in

2021-01-09 20:18

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As I said maybe dupreeh will out but i have hope until 10 if i won't see him on number 11 or 10 then it's gg but HLTV kinda disappointed everyone and community will ignore them in the future i think

2021-01-09 20:22

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Rankings are dead for me since basically 2018 when they decided, for the first time ever, that team achievements are 100% irrelevant for the rankings, while they had been the deciding factor in previous years. And yeah it's only got worse since

2021-01-09 20:24

who the fuck is stavn. Damn no name onliner flukes reaching this high is sad.

2021-01-08 22:22

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top1 rising star of 2020

2021-01-08 22:42

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blameF

2021-01-08 22:44

For Me: 1. ZywOo 2. s1mple 3. device 4. NiKo 5. BlameF 6. Ropz 7. Electronic 8. EliGe 9. syrsoN 10. Dupreeh 11. Magisk 12. Stavn

2021-01-08 22:25

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so almost the same?

2021-01-08 22:42

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yes sir yes sir yes sir

2021-01-08 22:48

Device S1mple Zywoo

2021-01-08 22:47

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+111111111111111111111 If rankings actually had some place in reality

2021-01-09 21:10

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Well device_4_majors and 1xmajor_mvp at least 1 time top1 he deserved, why need all this zywh00 S1mple))

2021-01-09 22:32

imo 1. ZywOo 2. s1mple 3. device 4. NiKo 5. blamef 6. electronic 7. ropz 8. Syrson 9. Magisk 10. dupreeh 11. Elige 12. stavn I normally would have put stavn higher, but after seeing hunter at #13, I think he will have the last spot

2021-01-08 23:35

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Seems reasonable One could pray Elige is #11 but I think they will place him higher

2021-01-09 21:08

All players in your list are valuable players but I don’t think they all gonna get in top12. Its Xantares’s year. Not even talking about Syrson, he will also appear in top 10.

2021-01-08 23:55

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feelsbadman Turkey are going to hate hltv after this years rankings

2021-01-09 21:06

Dupreeh #1 babeyyyyy

2021-01-08 23:55

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2021-01-09 11:55

-1

2021-01-09 12:00

hltv.org/stats/players/compare/10994/sta.. XANTARES>stavn /closed

2021-01-09 11:59

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Tgwri1s would like a word with you.

2021-01-09 21:05

#11 remaining too

2021-01-09 12:05

-magisk -dupreeh +xantares +mantuu OR +xantares +k0nfig OR +k0nfig +mantuu

2021-01-09 12:24

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-magisk -dupreeh bruh

2021-01-09 20:08

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They both will not make it. And even if they make it they probably don't deserve it.

2021-01-09 20:17

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nt mr. salt shaker both deserved Top 20. It is Brehze, Jks and krimz that's the problem. If you said this high was an issue, it was understandable.

2021-01-09 20:18

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Magisk and dupreeh definitely better than all NA players but if they come top 10. Thats a bit overrated

2021-01-09 20:20

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+1 that's actually true. I had Magisk 17th and Dupreeh 16th in my personal list.

2021-01-09 20:25

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Man i wish i could kick all the players from 18-20 in that list. No top team from EU will probably have 3 players in top 20(Astralis has a small chance) But Furia get 3 players in top 20 just by farming NA

2021-01-09 20:30

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+1 only Yuurih deserved to be on it. And 14 is way higher than it should've been.

2021-01-09 22:04

-jks -kscerato -brehze -hen1 +mantuu +xantares +k0nfig +valde and rankings make sense Like #114 it's NA and not dupreeh and magisk that's the problem

2021-01-09 21:03

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I agree with you on that one. I just said they wont get on the list anymore. They should have, but na robbed all spots.

2021-01-09 22:03

btw -krimz too

2021-01-09 22:04

NA trashs in the list but where is xantares or shox?

2021-01-09 12:34

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crying outside because they didn't pay Tgwri1s enough to get in

2021-01-09 20:57

No real top 12 bc godj is missing

2021-01-09 12:42

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No real top20 bc they put fkn jks and krimz in it but not valde or mantuu

2021-01-09 20:54

TeSeS has to be #12

2021-01-09 13:32

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stavn > teses IMO

2021-01-09 13:35

I hope -elige +xantares, or + shox, too many NA bots in top 20 already

2021-01-09 13:41

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hopefully but eligiggle is 100% in

2021-01-09 13:54

Ahahhahaha SUCH AN EASY PREDICTION

2021-01-09 20:02

11. Magisk What is your problem

2021-01-09 20:10

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Who else then, fellow dane?

2021-01-09 20:15

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im not a dane

2021-01-09 20:22

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If you live in Schleswig-Holstein, then yes, you are

2021-01-09 20:24

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I do not

2021-01-09 20:28

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fine then, let's move on

2021-01-09 20:29

hahahahahhahaha 11 magisk what is your problem

2021-01-11 08:01

SyrsoN only ten ? Wuttt ? NT 0/8

2021-01-09 20:19

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at least he's top20 unlike xantares

2021-01-09 20:53

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Bruhhh. Syrson > BaitmaF, LoserKo, electronic.

2021-01-09 20:59

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I agree but tell that to Tgwri1s

2021-01-09 21:00

alright u got the first one, 11 more to go

2021-01-09 20:21

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I will be 100% right if +/- 1 spot is allowed

2021-01-09 20:52

XANTARES... got robbed bruh, im srry for him

2021-01-09 20:25

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I feel so bad too, esp for you turks ;( Could've been first top20 turkish player -Brehze -Krimz -Hen1 -Kscerato +Mantuu +k0nfig +Valde +Xantares and rankings would've been fair

2021-01-09 20:27

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woxic was the first and the last one... Turkish scene is shit xd

2021-01-09 20:43

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+1 If Turkey was a rich country I think you'd have better players

2021-01-09 20:44

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Our internet connection is the worst in EU. Everything is expensive in here. My internet connection demands 33MBPS download and 7MBPS upload and i pay 100 Turkish liras for it LOL XD RX 5700XT is 5000 Turkish liras at least XDD

2021-01-09 20:57

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Lol I have Optical fiber internet with 1 Gb/s for €40/month

2021-01-09 21:00

guys can someone tell me why blamef is so high? not flaming him or something but I've not been following the scene much at all and I don't see how someone can come out of no where to make like top8 easily and everyone agrees? especially when complexity aren't even that high ranked of a team

2021-01-09 20:43

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He is called BaitF for a reason He's the danish s1mple

2021-01-09 20:50

1. ZywOo 2. S1mple 3. Device 4. NiKo 5. SyrsoN 6. Ropz 7. electronic 8. BlameF 9. EliGE 10. Dupreeh 11. Magisk Rip Mantuu, K0nfig and XANTARES jks, KRIMZ and Brehezee LOOOOOOOOOL

2021-01-09 21:12

That's a pretty good prediction if not Dupreeh higher

2021-01-09 21:17

First one correct.

2021-01-09 22:04

10/10

2021-01-09 22:54

Agree with this list, but dupreeh and maybe syrson > elige

2021-01-09 22:55

U forott Xantares Top1 bro

2021-01-09 23:01

Pretty similar to my prediction, except I have Shox on the list and not Elige, though I don't think either should be there.

2021-01-09 23:02

Ok nice prediction bro

2021-01-10 20:02

Swap 1 and 2. Then we're all good.

2021-01-10 20:22

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2021-01-11 21:38

R u hltv mod mens))?

2021-01-11 08:07

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feels like he is lol

2021-01-13 20:02

bro wtffff u got 4 already

2021-01-12 20:06

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5 POGGERS

2021-01-13 20:04

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Time traveler

2021-01-13 20:04

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for real tho

2021-01-13 20:05

Bruh he’s cheating he can see the future

2021-01-13 20:05

sorry but guessing the list correctly shouldnt feel like miracle, many people should be correct not to insult only person in the world and hltv opinionns

2021-01-13 20:05

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It is what is, every year the ranking gets more corrupt

2021-01-13 20:09

spoiler alert : this list wont be 12/12

2021-01-13 20:14

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