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Worst Major Final Player
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Denmark 4vs0 
S1mple or NiKo?
2021-01-10 15:20
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S1mple
2021-01-10 15:20
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#4
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Denmark 4vs0
maybe, worst rating and 2 total losses but he faced prime sk and astralis whereas niko faced c9
2021-01-10 15:21
8 replies
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-01-10 16:44
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#23
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Denmark 4vs0
its all true
2021-01-11 03:28
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It's true but it's hilarious for niko
2021-01-11 21:56
+1 it's true!
2021-01-11 03:31
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#31
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
Yup true
2021-01-11 06:55
True but he still got destroyed and crumbled under pressure though.
2021-01-12 22:31
bruhh the cologne 2016 sk lineup was so good coldzera said that they practised 140 maps for the tournament and won 138 or something like that
2021-01-13 05:03
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holy shit
2021-01-13 15:08
s1mple 2x major loser
2021-01-10 15:21
29 replies
#3
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Denmark 4vs0
yea but harder opponents than c9
2021-01-10 15:21
2x major finalist*
2021-01-10 15:22
20 replies
loser
2021-01-10 15:22
13 replies
>Major finalist >Loser Pick one
2021-01-10 15:23
12 replies
Loser ( that’s what he is) ))))
2021-01-10 15:53
He lose all major finals = loser s0mple
2021-01-10 16:45
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Yeah such a loser, imagine playing major grand final against the very best and Still be defeated, i mean everyone won this shit, like you, yes you must be a winner for sure.
2021-01-11 02:18
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#24
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Denmark 4vs0
2x major finalist = 2x major loser if he won, it would be 2x major champion
2021-01-11 03:29
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Make sense but #51
2021-01-11 20:57
I'm not talking about me ,is about s0mple ,kid u is just mad cuz u ukrainian choker still doesn't have a major
2021-01-11 07:08
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According your logic everyone except champion is a loser lmao, when definitly only to qualify for the biggest CSGO tournament are enough to be proud of
2021-01-11 20:56
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Yes
2021-01-11 21:44
I f you don't win, you lose, hence you are a loser... English is a pretty simple language and yet you fail to understand it...
2021-01-11 21:51
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A loser in wich mean? as a player wich lose a game yes, as a player wich fail in his career, no.
2021-01-11 22:00
#72
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France poulpup
I would have loose too, so simple = gold nova
2021-01-12 15:58
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1k IQ EU genius
2021-01-12 16:25
choker
2021-01-10 15:23
1 reply
Agree
2021-01-10 15:24
Loser
2021-01-10 16:44
3 replies
You? Why so hard with yourself, you are a major champion isnt? I mean of curse you are, to be calling major finalist a loser you must be FalleN himself
2021-01-11 02:20
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He lose the 2 major finals how he is a winner?
2021-01-11 07:09
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Being a Major finalist aren't enough to be winner? not Major winner but still a winner
2021-01-12 14:47
GTR, f0rest, friberg, and xizt are all 4x major losers your point?
2021-01-12 16:00
4 replies
at least won one so nt
2021-01-12 16:08
#78
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Denmark 4vs0
what record is worse 1-4 or 0-2? its up for debate, but i would argue 1-4 is better since at least they won 1 however 1-2 is better than 2-10 or something, cuz even tho 2 wins > 1, at least the other guy got 1, whereas losing 10 is just bad
2021-01-12 16:33
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#106
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Montenegro IzAlaN
win > lose 1-4 > 0-2 2-10 > 1-2
2021-01-13 03:12
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#109
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Australia CaZeR01
Id rather a 50% winrate than a 20%
2021-01-13 04:43
Yeah but best player in the world > major winner, 10 major winners per year but only 1 best player, there is a reason he is a big personality, maybe the biggest in csgo, while who remembers mibr lol, and flukes like gambit, c9 (they were good)
2021-01-12 22:35
no shame in losing to peak sk and astralis, but losing to c9 with 15-11 lead in the other hand...
2021-01-12 23:33
s1mple for sure
2021-01-10 15:56
#12
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Europe legal2333
Seized
2021-01-10 15:57
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#25
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Denmark 4vs0
he wasnt a star therefore didnt have star expectations
2021-01-11 03:29
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Seized and flamie were Na`Vi's stars alongside guardian, the two of them could take over games
2021-01-11 19:26
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#46
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Denmark 4vs0
edward was better than seized at the time of those majors
2021-01-11 19:36
5 replies
Nt newfag
2021-01-11 19:54
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#49
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Denmark 4vs0
2020 sign up date checks out btw seized wasn't even the one who struggled the most in those finals so idk why his name was even brought up
2021-01-11 19:57
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Alts aren't allowed on hltv ;) True
2021-01-11 20:09
2018 sign up, they lost major finals in 2015 and 2016
2021-01-13 09:32
#97
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Europe PeaceDATA
dont forget that he was IGL
2021-01-12 22:46
65% s0mple 35% ChoKo
2021-01-10 15:58
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atleast s1mple played against prime astralis and sk while niko played against clown9
2021-01-12 15:42
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name doesnt chek out
2021-01-12 16:09
+1
2021-01-12 23:34
zywoo... oh wait, he's never reached final and he'll never reach it lmao
2021-01-11 02:22
18 replies
Next Major he will
2021-01-11 02:33
6 replies
#56
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Serbia LtN))
0/8
2021-01-11 21:48
imagine thinking there'll be a next major XAXAXAXAXAXA
2021-01-12 14:49
4 replies
+1
2021-01-12 15:33
#92
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United Kingdom o_w_o
-1
2021-01-12 22:40
that hurts
2021-01-12 22:41
+1 delusional kids mens
2021-01-12 23:35
#26
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Denmark 4vs0
right, which means he never choked a major final?
2021-01-11 03:29
4 replies
so losing in playoffs better than losing in finals?
2021-01-11 21:56
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#69
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Denmark 4vs0
in a discussion for who is the worst major final player yes lmao obviously its better to not make it, then to make it and massively underperform
2021-01-12 15:38
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no?? id rather get to major final and lose than losing in semi finals
2021-01-12 15:43
0/8
2021-01-12 16:46
#34
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
S1mple fans are obsessed with zywoo lmao, 6>2
2021-01-11 06:57
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quick maths
2021-01-12 22:34
Zywoo 2 years, 2 #1 , 11 MVPs s1mple 5+ years, 1 #1, 11 MVPs talking about banter, that's the real deal for ya.
2021-01-12 22:34
Ignorant statement btw and did s1mple reach any major in his first 2 years? I know you are a blind delusional retard fanboy but look at this logically, 2 years in s1mple was literally a nobody banned for cheating playing on tier 3 CIS garbage with some lucky performances on relevant lan like minors etc..... 2 years in Zyw0o is the best player of all time this isn't even a comparison anymore.... if Zyw0o started when s1mple did he would be ahead of Device already especially since he would be around of the French scenes glory days but s1mple is Ukraine/Russian whatever not willing to leave his comfort zone long term so he will have to accept he will always be a loser and that's on himself btw it's his decision to stay there so I don't want to hear shit. Edit: BTW a true champion will always seek his best situation to win, he wouldn't just sit on Na'vi with 40-50k salary a month with expectations of winning maybe 1 event per year, he can say anything he wants but at the end of the day his actions speaks louder then his words and that's why he'll always be a loser. He's still my favourite player to watch hence why I'm fan of his but I don't feel any sympathy for him at all when this shit is all said in done no one is going to give 2 shits about him, people only remember the winners.
2021-01-12 22:56
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if zywoo started earlier (implying he would be an older person), he wouldn't have been born on the day cs is created, thus he wont be as good as he is now
2021-01-12 23:37
Yes make fun of zywoo while Simple choked 2 finals and didnt play good while Vitality are playing more like a team
2021-01-13 09:38
NiKo by miles, the guy was completely and utterly carried in Boston lmao
2021-01-11 02:31
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#27
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Denmark 4vs0
he did fine on map 3 but holding a 0.88 in a final vs c9 is pretty bad
2021-01-11 03:29
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Especially when you consider he was meant to be the superstar level/ carry potential player. Sure, Karrigan choked in his calls on top of it, but regardless, NiKo is the type of player who should be able to say "Give me AK I go fak zem" and get an advantage instead of wasting Guardian's god mode performances. Also, I don't know how the fuck Skadoodle managed to frag after being a bot for so long.
2021-01-11 12:15
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That's why i love Cold, he dosnt choke
2021-01-12 14:49
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Cold is just insane While he isn't an aim god or anything like that, he's completely mastered quite a few elements of the game. His work ethic is also incredible on top of that!
2021-01-12 17:39
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He's an aim god, but he play with brain too not only aim, that's why other's aim god seens to be more "stronger" but end failing in consistency (choking at pressure). Also i agree his work ethic and COLD soul (lmao) make him some kind of outstanding unique player. In my opinion at his peak he becomed the GOAT. But i could be wrong, because S1mple and Zyw0o are from another galaxy as Cold too
2021-01-12 22:28
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I'd put Zywoo and S1mple over cold any day only because they're on a different level to anything we've ever seen in csgo Hopefully Cold can be a part of bringing FaZe back to the top.
2021-01-13 00:39
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I would say those 2 aliens S1mple And Zyw0o are magical, like a ballet or a good vine while Cold was destruction, like a big truck rolling over everyone, all greats at his #1 form those 2 are really in a different lvl nowdays, let's see if Cold can bring back his monster form, i belive he can.
2021-01-13 15:35
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Brazil hugoooo
NiKo stats on the Grand Final of ELEAGUE Major 2018: hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDa.. Rating: 0.88 Impact: 0.83 ADR: 68.0 DPR: 0.73 KPR: 0.58 KAST: 64.9% K/D: -15 Won 2 clutches out of 2 _________________________________________________________________________ s1mple average stats from Cologne 2016 and Faceit Major 2018: hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. Rating: 0.72 Impact: 0.64 ADR: 52.3 DPR: 0.77 KPR: 0.49 KAST: 60.8% K/D: -13 (yeah -26 combined!) He didn't participate in any 1v1 situation in both matches So... yeah s1mple is the worst Major Final player ever.
2021-01-11 02:41
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yes i agree!
2021-01-11 20:59
#57
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Serbia LtN))
2021-01-11 21:49
ouch these stats for "superstars" hurt to see.
2021-01-12 22:37
Difference is that FaZe were the favourites and Liquid/ Na'vi were the underdogs. At the time, FaZe had been winning everything and were on the brink of an era. Liquid had somewhat of a miracle run and were heavy underdogs in the major final. Making the finals was an overachievement in itself. Na'Vi were going against prime Astralis (GOAT team with 0 contest) and had absolutely no chance.
2021-01-13 00:54
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#105
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Brazil hugoooo
Players like these two always put good numbers, even whey they lose matches...
2021-01-13 03:07
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Think about where both these players were in their careers and their opponents for context. If you're looking for the statistically worse performer, then yes, it's S1mple, but taking into account context, it's NiKo by a country mile, it's not even close. NiKo: NiKo was in his prime, that's it. FaZe were a dominant #1 team and he was essentially afk against Cloud 9 who were dysfunctional at best then disbanded shortly after the major win. S1mple: 2016 - For S1mple, Liquid was his first taste of Tier 1 cs. He'd had very little/ no useful experience being at the top playing in HR/ Flipside. Liquid had no business getting to the finals, let alone the playoffs. Liquid were ranked at #11 at the time, and this major had all the top 8 teams attending. 2018 - S1mple was indeed in his prime, but he was also playing against the best team of all time, who were notoriously good at shutting down star players, if you put NiKo in that situation he'd do exactly the same or worse. Yes, Na'Vi were second at the time, but being 2nd with this version of Astralis playing means absolutely nothing. No one could do anything against this iteration of Astralis, 10 rounds in a game against them meant you were a top 5 team.
2021-01-13 03:25
ch0k0 ofc, s1mples first major final was an overachievement in itself, and astralis were unbeatable at the faceit major
2021-01-11 03:41
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#32
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
Yea making the finals with liquid was an overachievement but were looking at the finals by itself, hence worst major final player. Also astralis being unbeatable isnt exactly an excuse to basically bottom frag when u have zeus and edward on ur team He also bottom fragged the sk major too, or at the very least came close
2021-01-11 06:56
s1mple by far ChoKo is a part of the biggest choke EVER in a final giving NACS a major, this is huuuuuuuuge. s1mple is a part of the biggest choke ever on a semi final or in history of bo3s in general but the difference between groupstage etc and the big games by s1mple in his whole carreer is untouchable, biggest choker ever both known chokers, both a joke and ultra overated. #znajder_1_major_s1mple_0_major #devilwalk_2_major_ChoKo_0_major
2021-01-11 03:45
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Devilwalk only won 1 major...
2021-01-11 07:05
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#38
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
He won major as coach too
2021-01-11 07:26
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Yes, i am aware of it, but does it really count tho?
2021-01-11 08:13
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of course it counts, wtf lol coach is on the team.
2021-01-11 19:22
1 reply
Okay...
2021-01-12 13:03
+1
2021-01-11 08:17
Ahem.
2021-01-11 19:26
1 reply
beautiful username my friend
2021-01-11 19:27
+1
2021-01-12 22:43
device
2021-01-11 06:57
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#107
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Montenegro IzAlaN
braindead
2021-01-13 03:15
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yes he plays like a braindead person
2021-01-13 10:09
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#117
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Montenegro IzAlaN
with ur low iq u dont undestand that u = braindead
2021-01-13 15:06
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2021-01-13 15:58
All the way : Choko
2021-01-11 19:36
#55
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Serbia LtN))
choKo explained with #4
2021-01-11 21:49
Karrigan from tsm times they were semis tho
2021-01-11 22:30
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#67
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Denmark 4vs0
reread title
2021-01-12 15:29
s0mple because choker
2021-01-12 16:04
s1mple 2x choker
2021-01-12 17:40
s1mple!!
2021-01-12 22:27
s1mple clearly, 2 finals 2 chokes
2021-01-12 22:31
I'll side with s1mple on this one, Faze at least went to 5 maps and Guardian was absolutely insane.
2021-01-12 22:40
#91
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
How is said player the "worst" if said player reached the CS:GO Major finals? To me, it just seems like a really daft reason to take a proverbial dump on a player and I don't agree with it.
2021-01-12 22:39
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I guess that's a bit true but Astralis staff talked a lot with their players when they were on their "choking period" with psychologists and it worked out in the end, they became the greatest CS team of all time after that. I guess crumblind under pressure is clearly a mental thing that you have to overcome just like Liquid did in 2019.
2021-01-12 22:43
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#96
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I can agree to that because it's fair, unlike the OP's take. Psychology is criminally underrated in Counter-Strike, but it plays a major part when it comes to the semantics of the core CS gameplay.
2021-01-12 22:45
S1mple imo
2021-01-13 04:57
s1mple was bottom and second bottom fragger in the finals. Although, you can say he faced teams in their prime, yet he still choked and crumbled under pressure.
2021-01-13 07:20
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2021-01-13 09:35
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