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Pre-FalleN Liquid Fans come here
EliGE | 
United States LULQUID_KOOLQUID 
What are your thoughts on this roster move? Personally, I think nothing is good about this. We just received a lion's share of the worst fanbase in CS:GO. This puts much more pressure on Liquid's players. On top of that, Liquid's fanbase will be seen as much worse than before. Not only that, FalleN is washed up, and according to the welcoming video, it's not even guaranteed that he will be IGLing.
2021-01-10 22:34
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rip *actually stew was his teammate for quite some time, he had to "assure" the rest of the team that it's a good move to sign him, otherwise dunno why would they go for Fell. The thing is how the rest of the team will get along with him. Synergy will either be visible or not within few months.
2021-01-10 22:39
16 replies
No if Stew really believed in old players like Fallen he woudlve stayed on mibr
2021-01-10 22:50
13 replies
I don't remember the reason behind tarik's and stew's departure from mibr but I doubt it was solely fallen. This guy has some valid points as well. hltv.org/forums/threads/2402484/liquid-b..
2021-01-10 23:00
10 replies
that me!!!
2021-01-10 23:06
4 replies
#72
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Canada J47
prove it or cancel
2021-01-11 00:42
I though you was very wrong about Brazilian sponsors but the other points are valid
2021-01-11 01:14
2 replies
since Brazilian cs fans are now interested in Liquid because of FalleN, there is more reason for sponsorships between Liquid and Brazilian companies
2021-01-11 03:55
1 reply
Yeah, maybe Ambev or some plantain farmer
2021-01-14 02:28
#35
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Europe ROMAG
they leaved because the brazilians were struglins with the comunication in game, The team thought they could adapt faster to communicate in english. But fallen and coldzera said that they regret that stew and tarik leave liquid because they were developing.
2021-01-11 00:11
Pretty sure they wanted to go back to a full Brazilian roster and that's why they removed Stewie and Tarik
2021-01-11 01:31
1 reply
yea, and taco wanted to transfer to mibr because of that, so stewie was traded. then they got rid of tarik for felps, since tarik couldnt speak portuguese
2021-01-11 01:32
#163
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Philippines h3ndrx
im pretty sure stew was traded for taco and zews then tarik got benched
2021-01-11 07:54
+1
2021-01-11 15:07
He was fired .... They didnt want to leave mibr!
2021-01-14 02:54
1 reply
really 2019 intel grand slam
2021-01-14 02:56
The team had to make a change, they were in bad form for some time, that's the perfect time to make a move like this, it can't be much worse than they already were. Plus maybe playing in a team like Liquid will make him more motivated and he'll play better than in MIBR. If Stew's the IGL then FalleN can focus on his individual performance. If he's the IGL then Stew probably becomes a better player individually than he was. Twistzz was playing poorly so either one of them will be a firepower upgrade.
2021-01-11 01:08
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times have changed so much. 2 years ago if u told me fallen or stewie were a firepower upgrade over twistzz id tell u to visit a psychiatrist
2021-01-11 01:16
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2021-01-10 22:34
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#52
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Canada f0rkb0mb
brazillians and their need to be annoying AF.
2021-01-11 00:29
its shit could of kept nitro and -stewie
2021-01-10 22:35
1 reply
+1 very sad tbh
2021-01-10 22:38
imagine loosing nitro and twistzz for this xaxaxaxaxa
2021-01-10 22:39
4 replies
+1 😔
2021-01-10 22:43
Grim has been rly good tho
2021-01-14 02:36
2 replies
+1, while anchoring, on overpass ct side he is a god
2021-01-14 03:06
was nothing against grim... think hes doing good too but this washed up long dong player
2021-01-14 11:54
Fallen will save liquid 🤩🤩🤩🤩see the magic
2021-01-10 22:45
4 replies
"Pre-FalleN Liquid Fans come here" btw, we get it, ur biased
2021-01-10 22:48
#76
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Brazil angryyyy
kkkkkkk +1 Fallen best awper
2021-01-11 00:55
Ok
2021-01-11 15:07
Fallen will save Liquid. And Liquid will save Fallen too. Its an amazing roster move, i was waiting for this for a long time.
2021-01-14 03:06
LIQUIDOS TOP 1 LETS GOOOOOOOO LETS REKT EU NOBS!!!!!
2021-01-10 22:49
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2021-01-10 22:53
shut up
2021-01-10 22:54
1 reply
#8 second part
2021-01-10 22:55
Fallen the best human to ever touch a mouse and keyboard
2021-01-10 22:55
6 replies
the worst
2021-01-10 22:55
3 replies
cry, hes the man who will fix your team mf
2021-01-11 14:36
2 replies
#181
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Brazil killfell
+1
2021-01-11 20:37
#189
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Brazil Z1DAN
+1
2021-01-14 02:48
+1
2021-01-10 22:56
#77
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Brazil angryyyy
+1 +1111
2021-01-11 00:56
#20
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Brazil finexys_
LIQUID IS BRAZIL <33333333333 EZ TOP 1 TEAM
2021-01-10 22:55
12 replies
#4
2021-01-10 22:55
11 replies
#24
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Brazil finexys_
#7
2021-01-10 22:56
10 replies
why do brazilians have to be so mad?
2021-01-10 23:02
9 replies
#124
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Brazil Pandapool
Hmm, why are you calling someone mad, when you literally created a post to whine? Just to be clear, are you some kind of hipster? Since liquid is going to have a ton of guys cheering for them(because of fallen), now it's not cool anymore. I will cheer for fallen, but i couldnt care less about liquid. If you do really like liquid you should just be enjoying that your team is gonna get bigger from now on. Maybe not better, but definitely bigger.
2021-01-11 01:43
8 replies
me asking pre-fallen liquid fans about their thoughts on this roster move = whining? lol ok and i never said liquid is any less cool, im saying that the new fanbase will negatively affect liquid. and i dont give two shits about liquid's popularity, i care about their results, their personalities, their gameplay, etc.
2021-01-11 01:49
7 replies
#126
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Brazil Pandapool
You saying that the team will not be good without even seeing how they perform, is pretty much whinning. Liquid was not performing, and as far as i know twistzz was not kicked, so it's not like they are kicking someone to let fallen in. I dont see how a bigger fanbase can negatively affect a pro team. Only the opposite and you care about their "personalities" WTF? If that is the case Elige has always said he looks up to fallen, and they are good friends. And aside from dumb HLTV people, every pro player that talks about fallen, only has good stuff to say.
2021-01-11 02:01
6 replies
#132
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Brazil finexys_
damn i want to be fluent in english just like you
2021-01-11 02:50
2 replies
and i want to be fluent in english just like you
2021-01-11 04:06
1 reply
#167
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Brazil finexys_
thanks love you mens)))
2021-01-11 14:30
>"You saying that the team will not be good without even seeing how they perform, is pretty much whinning." This makes 0 sense at all. Me taking a stance on Liquid's future situation is not whining. But since you're Brazilian and you guys know a lot about whining, maybe you're right. >"I dont see how a bigger fanbase can negatively affect a pro team. Only the opposite" A bigger fanbase can negatively affect a pro team by putting much more pressure on them to play the best they can. When it comes to the Brazilian fanbase specifically, you guys are known for shitting on teams when they don't perform. >"If that is the case Elige has always said he looks up to fallen, and they are good friends." This has exactly 0 to do with EliGE's personality but okay. "And aside from dumb HLTV people, every pro player that talks about fallen, only has good stuff to say." I'm sure leaf, xeppaa, Vanity, Jonji, mCe, and steel would agree with this wholeheartedly.
2021-01-11 02:58
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#151
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Brazil tatu_loko
>"This has exactly 0 to do with EliGE's personality but okay." One person's personality doesn't define whether he likes another, what you say is totally forced, only time will tell how the team will react to it, but one thing I know, Fallen is a great player and EliGE and Stewie has a great relationship with him ... >"I'm sure leaf, xeppaa, Vanity, Jonji, mCe, and steel would agree with this wholeheartedly." This is out of the question bro, how do you want to compare what people who played against think with what people who play with him will think, ridiculous...
2021-01-11 04:23
#166
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Brazil Pandapool
"A bigger fanbase can negatively affect a pro team by putting much more pressure on them to play the best they can" You can't be that dumb....... If you are afraid they are gonna collapse because of pressure from fans, imagine when they go to a LAN with people cheering, screaming and booing them. Maybe that's why liquid is known as choquid, they can't handle pressure. "I'm sure leaf, xeppaa, Vanity, Jonji, mCe, and steel would agree with this wholeheartedly." thank god cheaters and matchfixers dont like him.
2021-01-11 12:43
i think its gonna be awesome, something like ronaldo on corinthians, the team will get more fanbase (selling shirts and shit) and Fallen will conquer a lot more, he is an amazing player yet
2021-01-10 23:05
#30
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Brazil VlNl
I'm hoping everything goes wrong, fans like you don't deserve anything.
2021-01-11 00:05
6 replies
why is that? u, a new liquid fan, thinks I, someone who has fanned liquid since as long as ive watched cs basically, doesnt deserve anything even tho i know liquid far better than you do
2021-01-11 00:10
5 replies
#38
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Brazil VlNl
Speaking a lot of shit before it happens, hopefully everything goes bad, the flag is for ZIKA
2021-01-11 00:12
4 replies
nothing has gone well with fallen on the team for the past 2 years, so its a completely fair assessment
2021-01-11 00:14
2 replies
#45
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Brazil VlNl
yes, he played alone 2 years?
2021-01-11 00:17
1 reply
if you're way above your teammates, you will stand out greatly, even on a bad team
2021-01-11 03:22
+1
2021-01-11 04:07
ITT a bunch of brazilians who can't read
2021-01-11 00:08
Lol, a team with fanbase that hate each other
2021-01-11 00:09
4 replies
no one likes brazilians tbf
2021-01-11 00:11
3 replies
Brazil is now half the fanbase lol 50% fallen simps 40% na fans 9% other 1% Dutch fan cuz Dutch org = Netherlands cs #1 ))))))
2021-01-11 00:13
2 replies
they wont be half the fanbase within 3 months once fallen gets kicked. then brazilians will start shitting on liquid, something the org likely realizes and knows they have brought this upon themselves.
2021-01-11 00:15
1 reply
#49
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Brazil HazzyS
after they quick fallen they're going to disband))))))))))
2021-01-11 00:20
I think we should let them show what they are capable of. Maybe not the best move ever, but who knows... Fallen's personality is easy to get along with, so I believe he will fit fine in this regard. Stewie was very likely advocating for him, which is a very good sign imo as he knows Fallen's way of thinking about the game and thinks he's a good pick. People talk a lot about him being washed up but you know HLTV, let's wait and see. I hope it works out.
2021-01-11 00:16
5 replies
thank you for being civil in your response. as for being washed up, well... the stats dont lie. sure there isnt that large of a sample, but his rating was like 0.75 against top 10 teams, the level of teams liquid will be facing at blast spring. on top of that, fallen wasnt even igling during that period. i guess im hoping for him to improve his game, but seeing how hes way past his peak, its unliekly
2021-01-11 00:30
4 replies
#108
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Brazil RevvivaL
FalleN's AWP is a direct upgrade on stew or naf and it should be able to let them play their game much better. If stew keeps igl fallen's mid-round calling would be very beneficial to liquid which is likely what stew is missing and he can work with stew to help with strats.
2021-01-11 01:17
3 replies
stewie's mid round calling is anything but what liquid is missing, because stewie was mid round calling during liquid 2019
2021-01-11 01:23
2 replies
#128
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Brazil RevvivaL
Regardless i am 100% sure fallen would add to his mid round calling and strats. You also fully ignored like 60% of what i was saying.
2021-01-11 02:07
#205
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Europe koml0w
I think that depending on the statistics, especially the old ones, n is not even a test for me at least, he is a good awper, with the awp in hand I would say that it is more consistent than naf or stew, and the igl issue, he is extremely experienced and has a huge winning mentality, maybe that’s what it takes to regain everyone’s confidence, since for me there’s no doubt that twistzz didn’t trust his game as much as before and it may be that other players feel that way too
2021-01-14 04:53
#43
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Brazil GooseOp
Haters gonna hate xD Just don't come back to liquid, we don't need salty americans when we start to win titles
2021-01-11 00:16
3 replies
"we don't need salty americans when we start to win titles" hahahahaha WE?????? only 1 washed up brazil player in team Its American team so get lost
2021-01-11 00:20
north americans have run this team since 2015, and will continue to. we never needed ur toxic fanbase and we never will.
2021-01-11 00:31
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#182
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Brazil GooseOp
"toxic fanbase" dude, honestly, you know this is bs, everyday there is a thread to talk shit about Brazil, LIKE THIS ONE!!! Please dude, everyone liked the liquid move, only edgy hltv users didn't. REMEMBER! the players welcomed him.
2021-01-11 23:08
#44
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Brazil RmM_oo
Yeah it's still a good adition. Fallen + Elige + Stew already have some chemistry, plus a main awper (he still got it, believe) will lead to absolute freedom of his colegues. I can see Elige being a f*ucking number 1 star player with the freedom hes getting. It doesn't matter if he will IGL (I rather not tho), there were worse difficulties in TL roaster than this. As for the fanbase, can't say much, but I would't worry as I care shit of behaviour but my own.
2021-01-11 00:17
NA cs is dead, and now this... most toxic fun base.... no chance for NA to recover. RIP
2021-01-11 00:18
Liquid suck before fallen anyways.
2021-01-11 00:18
1 reply
liquid were showing some signs. they just sucked in NA cuz NA plays much more differently. liquid in EU was starting to become good then this bombshell was dropped
2021-01-11 00:32
One more disband incoming imho. Fallen will destroy 1 more team
2021-01-11 00:22
1 reply
quite sad tbh, i hope liquid has none of fallen's bullshit
2021-01-11 00:34
Doesnt matter how much you discuss about, we will only see in a couple of weeks. MIBR roster looked terrible on paper, Niko on G2 was praised by everyone. But dont overrate their previous roster, which wasnt playing well
2021-01-11 00:28
3 replies
niko on g2 was praised for all the right reasons. niko didnt have to igl anymore and he was becoming the star fragger he was always supposed to be. its not like he was playing shit on faze before he joined g2. fallen's only real prospect was that he was an igl, and in the liquid announcement video, it sounded a lot like he wasnt even going to igl on liquid, so he has no real value over someone like junior, who hasnt even peaked yet and is playing better than fallen
2021-01-11 00:34
2 replies
Yes, he was playing decent and yet G2 is looking worse after that move. The point is that we cant assume anything b4 the matches
2021-01-11 00:54
1 reply
g2 is not looking worse wtf
2021-01-11 00:56
#54
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I.m excited because it looks like NA cs might have a chance again.
2021-01-11 00:31
2 replies
it did have its chance when liquid got 2nd at global challenge and were looking decent, then twistzz got dropped
2021-01-11 00:32
1 reply
#59
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Pretty sure twistzz left himself.
2021-01-11 00:33
i like it :D
2021-01-11 00:32
I see why people think it could work but I think liquids awp igl should've been replaced by fallen the awp igl instead of twistzz but at least twistzz got out of liquid while he could
2021-01-11 00:34
2 replies
well the thing is twistzz didnt want to play support. SO, if fallen replaced stewie instead, twistzz wouldnt have had to play support, and couldve played entry instead. this couldve made twistzz back into the star player he always deserved to be. i doubt twistzz truly wanted to leave liquid
2021-01-11 00:36
1 reply
Ya I agree, twistzz playing under fallen could've been good too but Stewie was obviously the one who brought him in so you can't replace him :/
2021-01-11 00:37
I believe if Fallen come back even remotely close to his old self liquid will be a top 5 team again, they really needed igl
2021-01-11 00:35
7 replies
i would be slightly more ok with this roster change if FALLEN EVEN DECIDED TO IGL IN THE FIRST PLACE. idk if u watched the liquid announcement video, but it sounded a lot like he wasnt even going to be an igl, and he would just focus on his awp game, which is ANYTHING BUT WHAT LIQUID NEEDS. liquid has more than enough firepower to win, his awping will be quite useless if there isnt proper igling
2021-01-11 00:37
6 replies
#80
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Brazil angryyyy
Fallen will he IGL dude check liquipedia
2021-01-11 00:57
4 replies
????? where in liquipedia does it say he will igl
2021-01-11 00:58
3 replies
#90
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Brazil angryyyy
Crown in the side of his name
2021-01-11 01:03
2 replies
liquipedia is community ran btw. instead of looking at a third party website, maybe take a look at the actual fallen announcement video
2021-01-11 01:06
1 reply
#97
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Brazil angryyyy
I didn't knew sry
2021-01-11 01:07
#143
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United States raymoney
FalleN said he would be open to only playing AWP and not IGL as well, not that he will be playing only AWP. In other words, he would be open to doing whatever the team feels they need.
2021-01-11 03:48
#65
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Brazil potat
Great move, FalleN is playing very well, everyone that watches his streams knows it. Brazilian fans are very passionated, the amount of pressure should only be a problem if they start playing poorly. I dont think thats going to happen. Liquid has a lot of potential to become top1 again and FalleN seems the perfect fit for it.
2021-01-11 00:37
6 replies
his streams = fpl pugs. FPL means jackshit, especially NA FPL. even guardian is fragging in fpl, that doesnt mean hes good rn.
2021-01-11 00:38
5 replies
#73
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Brazil potat
it actually means a lot. also, his communication is insanely good and he was not underperforming on MIBR, so theres no reason to think he is not playing on a good level.
2021-01-11 00:43
4 replies
if under 0.8 rating against top 10 teams in the last 6 months isnt underperforming idk what is
2021-01-11 00:57
3 replies
#145
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United States raymoney
Hard to get high ratings when your team is always losing. FalleN had to AWP which in the current meta is a very demanding role and also IGL which is the biggest and most demanding role and never less, he was still above his teammates. IN Liquid he will a better team around him and would have an opportunity to do better.
2021-01-11 03:51
2 replies
he did not igl towards the tail end of mibr's career, but i guess thats mostly a fair assessment
2021-01-11 03:53
1 reply
#148
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United States raymoney
I mean yeah but that was at the very tail end and I think objectively he was probably the best performer behind maybe kNg at times.
2021-01-11 03:55
#68
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
I see neither good things nor bad things. I think we should wait for the games to draw conclusions.
2021-01-11 00:38
2 replies
thats fair. i hope to god im proven wrong. some retards in this thread think i want liquid to lose, but thats far from the truth. i want to be proven wrong because from everything ive seen from fallen in 2020, this is anything from an upgrade.
2021-01-11 00:39
1 reply
#71
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
to be honest, I think the fallen is still going to bring something good, but that's probably just a biased opinion of mine. I hope that at least the fallen will do his best in this, if he fails he will never have a chance in tier 1 again
2021-01-11 00:41
#74
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United States drac0z
Best move they could've made. But to be fair we can't really judge Fallen until we actually see him play him in an offical cause it's a minute. But from when he did play for MIBR, he was always the one carrying them
2021-01-11 00:46
#81
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Brazil angryyyy
This guy is a fallen hater don't even listen to him
2021-01-11 00:58
2 replies
me taking a stance based on fallen's stats as of his most recent games and performances does not make me a hater
2021-01-11 01:00
#89
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Brazil angryyyy
I think hes mad cause fallen stole 1 major from lulquid KKKKK
2021-01-11 01:02
I wish that they had picked up Vanity instead, but the move might work. I am kinda pissed that now Liquid has a bunch of toxic FalleN fanboys spamming everything.
2021-01-11 01:00
3 replies
+1 i agree with this 100%
2021-01-11 01:00
#106
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Brazil VlNl
sorry, but Whonity is funny
2021-01-11 01:16
1 reply
I mean he beat MIBR while he had a coach standing in soooo
2021-01-11 03:11
Stewie kick imminite
2021-01-11 01:00
3 replies
*imminent
2021-01-11 01:01
2 replies
Was hoping auto correct would help me :(
2021-01-11 01:02
1 reply
I had to google it because I forgot the difference between imminent and eminent lmao
2021-01-11 03:11
#91
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Japan Peine
NA and BR fans allied now ? Put NA arrogance and BR toxicity together and you get the team with the worst fanbase ever
2021-01-11 01:03
3 replies
#92
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Brazil angryyyy
Why
2021-01-11 01:03
1 reply
#93
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Japan Peine
wdym why
2021-01-11 01:03
vitality fans talking.
2021-01-11 01:04
#96
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United States JustBitsy
I don't care how the fanbase appears really. I genuinely like TL as an org. I think they do a great job by their players and set a standard for being an esports org. A FalleN move is kind of risky and I think everyone recognizes that. I will go in cautiously optimistic. If they do real well then I don't see the problem and If they don't then we will need to make the changes.
2021-01-11 01:07
2 replies
It's also a good opportunity to take a risk since they weren't doing that great anyway.
2021-01-11 01:10
1 reply
#120
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United States JustBitsy
+1
2021-01-11 01:32
2021-01-11 01:08
I belive fallen is basically the brazlian Nitr0 great awping great igling, when it was stewie igling in Liquid they were going of emotion and hype, same thing as like kng IGL if the fire power isn’t working and there hype isn’t there they die they suck. But with fallen coming in I belive there igling styke will be better, the strategy will be there, and they will have the fire power to strike unlike with the old Liquid, I belive this liquid will be like 2018 pre Stew liquid.
2021-01-11 01:09
#101
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Portugal TimiKS
i think the best thing they can do is to not put fallen as IGL, he will be much more usefull if he just focus on hes own game
2021-01-11 01:09
7 replies
bad take. let me explain why. liquid has so much firepower, but not enough leadership, not enough tactical gameplay, not enough igling. they need someone who can make them more than just a pure firepower team, and lead them to wins. fallen not igling wont be able to do that.
2021-01-11 01:14
6 replies
so fallen will be igling or not?
2021-01-11 01:23
5 replies
dont know, liquid seem pretty cryptic about it. the liquid announcement video seemed as if fallen would not be igling but focusing on his own game
2021-01-11 01:24
4 replies
i hope fallen will take igl and awp, he is so much batter than stewb0t
2021-01-11 01:26
2 replies
stewie10am is bad but not as bad as fallen =D
2021-01-11 01:33
1 reply
we'll see
2021-01-11 03:02
If they don’t let him IGL FalleN will make them
2021-01-11 05:24
There's no way brazilians can be worse than NA fanbase
2021-01-11 01:19
4 replies
im sure u havent followed cs since before 2021 then
2021-01-11 01:23
2 replies
Nah, brazilians just get baited all the time it's funny af And NA are always crybabies braindead fans that keeps complaining and cry when EU says NA no scene
2021-01-11 04:25
He’s right though
2021-01-11 05:23
#140
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Denmark dyinbyran
This must be your only account here then lol
2021-01-11 03:16
I think this move either goes well for Liquid and they get what they needed, meaning an IGL and dedicated AWP. Or the team completely underperforms and falls apart. Fallen has had 2+ years with some of the best Brazilian players he could possibly get and has not thing to show from it since they won a tier 2 tournament in 2018. I personally think that Fallen's style just doesn't work as well as it once did. it doesn't seem like he's changed up his playstyle or tried adapting to meta shifts. Hopefully, he will bring something new to Liquid, but if he doesn't then I don't see this working out at all.
2021-01-11 01:24
4 replies
name doesnt check out
2021-01-11 01:24
3 replies
sorry mens
2021-01-11 01:28
2 replies
what are u sorry for? im saying ur not an idiot :D
2021-01-11 01:32
1 reply
Oh i was joking
2021-01-11 02:06
I still feel like the biggest problem in liquid is the IGLING. If fallen will take over IGL spot I have hope for liquid.
2021-01-11 02:09
high-level csgo has many variables and firepower is one of the least important: whoever thought broky would perform well in t1 or mibr would play well or heroic would win t1 events or gambit would win a major with no names or vp would perform well on lan after being dogshit for months the average csgo player/analyst is just clueless and cringe in their attempt to predict outcomes like they're playing pokemon
2021-01-11 02:13
I think fallen is a really good roster move. I don’t remember fallen ever becoming a worse player. Rather his team as a whole became worse. He is still the same player if you ask me. I’m expecting them to do well
2021-01-11 02:16
-stew +fer
2021-01-11 03:12
towards the end of mibr I adamantly believe fallen's style grew stagnant. I think fallen's playstyle is too obstinately based on the past metas and too incapable of adapting in a lot of the mibr matches I wtached their t side was way too slow and their ct side was too unresponsive. It felt like mibr didn't know how to take map control or trade kills, likely catalyzed by fallen's stagnant leadership
2021-01-11 03:13
#139
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Denmark dyinbyran
Its kkkkkquid, not liquid
2021-01-11 03:15
#142
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United States raymoney
People shit on FalleN because of the failure of MIBR, but look at what he had to work with on that roster. TACO had completely gone to shit. Fer's aggressive flank player style had become easy to read. kNg was solid but was nowhere near good enough to just hard carry the squad to relevance. The cycling 5th player was never a good fit for the role the squad really needed because they were locked up in FURIA. The failure of MIBR is not entirely FalleN's fault. He simply didn't have the same pieces to work with as he did in the past. With Liquid he has everything he needs. He has NAF, ELiGE, and Grim in good form, and Stewie is a world-class player in his role. If he can't make this teamwork then maybe there is something to be said about him being washed up as an IGL; however, for now, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
2021-01-11 03:43
bro NACS always been a meme, you guys will have a chance to win shit now, chill and watch the boss teach your NA kids idols how to not choke and win titles on lan. we (brs) are just necessary evil, you guys have the best and most confortable position in whole cs scene since csgo started, we coming from 3rd world country, our players with not enough beds to sleep on did more in 2 years than your whole scene history, so stop being a soft winy kid, and see the bright side of the situation. thats why na is a joke, fallen didnt even join yet, u soft kids are already crying LMAOOO
2021-01-11 03:49
6 replies
brazil and NA go trophy for trophy lmao
2021-01-11 04:49
#160
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Brazil angryyyy
+1 you said everything, people hating br and not admitting that we are the best EU and NA as 1st world countries have easy acess to new technologies and shit, im pretty sure that they were plating 400fps since the beginning, here in brazil we pass through lot of stuff and they don't even consider
2021-01-11 05:27
4 replies
+1 players like TACO coming from nordeste to SP without money just for the passion of the game these motherfuckers will NEVER understand that, if NA players had to do shit like that, they would quit in the first week LMAO
2021-01-11 19:23
While I agree that the BR scene is overlooked by most, I have to disagree that all people in EU and NA have the best equipment just because we live in a first world country (Personally wouldn't consider USA a first world country anymore). I get 150-180 FPS on my PC max, most of the time I sit between 120-150. Before that, I was playing on a laptop that got 30 fps. Brazil is great for cs, no one can deny that.
2021-01-14 02:54
2 replies
i still play on a 30 fps laptop, cant even believe i got out of silver tbh
2021-01-14 04:42
1 reply
Nice man, grind don't stop. 30fps Global Elite lmao
2021-01-14 04:47
no twistzz so i dont car. though its a good change since fallen is not washed up at all and can still perform at a high level, id rather have twistzz in grim out like it shouldve been when nitr0 left
2021-01-11 04:42
from his last games on mibr he seemed to be ok individually with the same core that he's been playing with for years, im sure he's a lot more motivated now so he'll do even better. i honestly have pretty high hopes for this move.
2021-01-11 05:13
Just admit you hate Brazilians already
2021-01-11 05:20
I think it has a chance of going really really well or really really badly and nothing in between. He's still a good player individually, just can he keep up with this team which is the first in a long time where he's not the leader and can he not get into any drama is the question.
2021-01-11 05:27
Liquid is a shit team. Tier 4
2021-01-11 05:30
Chill Lulquid_Crackid
2021-01-11 09:33
#165
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Portugal CRMN1
It's just easy to put all the blame on fallen for the lack of results in his recent time as an IGL. He didn't have the best conditions at all since Coldzera left MIBR. He promised in the welcoming video that he still studies CS a lot day by day and he's pretty confident that he can keep up with the meta changes nowadays. Skillwise he's not in his primetime but you know how good he can be when given space and momentum, so you can't really say he's washed up cause he has had a worse period lately + he said he will help the team a lot in a sense that he will pour all his knowledge about the game into the stratbook so that alone is enough to tell he's going to IGL and I strongly believe he has the knowledge to completely adapt and revolutionize his IGL style when in a different scenario/team/environment. We can just wait and see, but personally there's not really much of a reason for one to think this project is going to fail before it started.
2021-01-11 09:43
3 replies
In the HLTV article, it was stated that they're not sure whether he will take the IGL role over from Stewie or not. I'd hope he does, but you can never be too sure. He said that he was joining to primarily fill the void awper role, and that he was fine with IGL'ing or sitting back and focusing on just awping. We'll just have to wait and see.
2021-01-14 02:50
2 replies
#193
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Portugal CRMN1
+1, I am not a fan of hard predictions before we get to see something.
2021-01-14 02:55
1 reply
+1 Neither am I
2021-01-14 04:29
#169
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Denmark LJSI
They shouldve kicked stewie instead of nitr0, or kept the original 5. I will be surprised if they ever win a tier 1 event again
2021-01-11 14:44
1 reply
Nitr0 was never kicked, there was a mutual agreement and he switched to Valorant.
2021-01-14 02:47
Brazilians are the biggest crowd on cs:go, you can't deny that. It's good for every player to know he have a big crowd cheering for him (unless he have very low confidence).
2021-01-11 14:54
#171
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Peru TheJuan
You should be glad Liquid is finally getting some real passionate fans and the best IGL and awper of all times
2021-01-11 15:00
The only move Liquid need is -bot2k +fallen But now rip
2021-01-11 15:03
#175
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Brazil uselessz
"We just received a lion's share of the worst fanbase in CS:GO." said the NA guy
2021-01-11 15:09
#176
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Brazil naner1805
I know I wasn't supposed to be here, but look, it's an upgrade: hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7687/nitr..
2021-01-11 15:12
2 replies
#177
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Brazil naner1805
But I also have the notion that Fallen will have to change some of his thoughts to be victorious again
2021-01-11 15:15
I mean, you're not wrong lmao. Even if we switch it to LAN only, both have 10+ maps played in 2020 and FalleN still has better stats in almost everything.
2021-01-14 02:46
bad move
2021-01-11 19:23
I just rly hope we get back old BAD FALLEN youtu.be/gKN9RXmOj3U
2021-01-11 20:33
#184
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Canada JC_123
Lost all respect for this team. Will still cheer for Elige and NAF and hope Grim will get a good opportunity after this shit fails.
2021-01-14 02:29
Not a Liquid fan, but I do rate the move. FalleN is an awping IGL. That solves two problems for Liquid right off the bat. Someone can actually IGL, and someone can CONSISTENTLY use the awp instead of just having two or three secondary awpers on one team. Even if FalleN decides with Liquid that Stewie is gonna stay the IGL, FalleN will be able to help Stewie as a secondary caller just like Stewie did for FalleN during his stint on MIBR. Liquid has a good IGL, and a PRIMARY awper instead of a secondary. On top of having three insane raw aimers in EliGE, Naf, and Grim. Plus they're gonna have the Smoke Criminal back now that he doesn't have to focus 100 percent on calling and strats, since FalleN will be able to help early round with calls since Stewie has always been more of a mid round caller. I think it'll work and they'll be a hard team to play against. Definitely not Top 3 still, but I could see them Top 5 maybe. Top 7 or 8 more realistic.
2021-01-14 02:44
1 reply
+1 tell em
2021-01-14 03:26
Nitr0 bestests.
2021-01-14 03:02
3 replies
brother???
2021-01-14 04:45
2 replies
In arms <3 I miss you mannsss congrats for making it to #8 this year! Ours is a friendship forged once in this life and again in the next. Goodbye, my brother!
2021-01-14 05:52
1 reply
forever rooting for nitr0 in valorant already won the first valorant major, s1mple still 0 majors
2021-01-14 06:53
He will be igling
2021-01-14 04:43
+1 on the fans situation i miss nitr0 more than ever
2021-01-14 04:45
2 replies
+1 Been watching him play since ibuypower but never have I thought on making an acc dedicated to him, just a stranger passing by in hltv on all those years & realize it's too late when I did so because he's already gone. Will sorely be missed, thank you for the legacy Nitr0 for what you've left behind! #cringetime
2021-01-14 05:58
1 reply
+111111
2021-01-14 06:53
I am literally the no. 1 twistzz fan fuck do you think my thoughts are
2021-01-14 12:16
Trident
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Tikitakan
2.35
Astralis
1.46
G2
2.86
Vitality
1.41
Liquid
3.09
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