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Australia DELUSIONAL_JKS_FAN 
ive wanted bntet to be on the same team as Jks and the boys for years, but i guess this is the closest we can get. This roster IMO will do good if not great. Jks is a little better than bntet, but if liazz is in the star role, and back to lurking like he was in ORDER, i 100% see this team being a top 5 team again. Dont say liazz was shit blah blah if you didnt watch him in AU. Depending on AZR's performance, I think Dexter would be the next move, and (this is my hypothetical) either Grat to rifle, or -Grat +INS, and get Alistair or Acor. EZ 100 Majors. Looking forward to see what these guys can do this year. Also dont say grat is a shit rifler, hes good as
2021-01-13 13:41
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Hope they dont get scammed because they are some shady russian mafia org
2021-01-13 13:41
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#2
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Oceania sergei_
either way the russian oligarchs managed to keep the team together and bring them to europe, which is what they wanted all along
2021-01-13 13:42
#4
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Uzbekistan MUK
+1 :D
2021-01-13 13:43
whaaat ?
2021-01-13 13:43
nah, they won't get scammed for sure
2021-01-13 13:53
Aren't usually russians the least to scam people? People always put them on the bad side of everything in history.. i rly dont get it. but i dont see nothing wrong. Just great to see another org, with money, fresh air to the scene is good. not old, Orgs (like EnVy for ex), that have no idea what they are doing and just burning money.
2021-01-13 14:00
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they are a russian org that had a twitter account with 33k followers and 1 like per post with only bots commenting, funded by "very rich private investors", while they had a tier 4 CS team and a tier 3 DOTA team. To me that makes no sense and screams money laundering or something like that.
2021-01-13 14:03
#51
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United States Fule
all russian orgs are like this. just cis things
2021-01-13 16:47
BenTeT will just turn into new jks
2021-01-13 13:42
Carry Potter <3
2021-01-13 13:43
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+1 hes as cracked as he is jacked
2021-01-13 13:44
im so excited for this lineup
2021-01-13 13:46
Dexter IGL Degster AWP BnTeT Liaz Jkaem
2021-01-13 13:47
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#19
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Australia B_Tannen
Renegades > EXTREMUM.
2021-01-13 13:56
6 replies
No
2021-01-13 15:05
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#48
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Australia B_Tannen
Renegades proven top 20 internationally with guaranteed qualifying spots for big events. EXTREMUM has less potential from where I'm sitting, that roster was struggling with JKS so how will they perform better without? Going to be a tough road.
2021-01-13 15:07
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No, Renegades haven't proven themselves on internationally at LAN, They had one good LAN event at DreamHack Open Leipzig 2020 and to be honest they only beat Mad Lions (Right before Hunden was kicked) and the old NA C9 with the South Africans There only other international LAN event with the 5 is IEM Katowice 2020, finishing 13-16th, 100T finished 5th-6th The roster wasn't struggling with JKS, They were a consistent top 10 team in the world in 2019 when LANS were a thing, Sure, JKS was by far the best player but by adding BnTeT it allows Liazz to have more freedom and hopefully fill the roles, You're forgetting Liazz when he was competing in Australia was far more impressive than Dexter or INS at the time
2021-01-13 15:48
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#52
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Australia B_Tannen
I said they’re proven top 20 internationally. Yeah everything was fine, that’s why they all split up right? For a tournament winning roster with potential to be top 2 NA, they achieved nothing in 100T, choked their good runs and for the most part were irrelevant at tournaments with much worse teams. Why would the roster now start working without the best player in it? Too many things have to go right for success, so my hopes aren’t high. And they’re going to have much more competition in Europe than NA or OCE.
2021-01-13 21:32
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Top 20 internationally doesn't come close to 100T They split up because the ORG dropped out of CSGO, Jkaem was keen to try a Norwegian super team (That was suppose to get a lot better players coming in that never did) and JKS got a ridiculous amount of money thrown at him to at least try an international team As i said, The roster would be better with JKS instead of literally anyone (Apart from AZR cause IGL ect ect) but without JKS it lets Liazz play the roles he was suppose to, At least give him a go and it doesn't role clash with BnTeT letting those 2 be your stars when previously it was just JKS being a star with Jkaem being a very impressive entry 2019 they already prove themselves to be top 10 in the world, Yes, INCLUDING EU TEAMS, I'm not saying they will be better but they at least have a chance with Liazz and BnTeT not having any role clashes Who knows, JKS was rumored to come back maybe Extremum can eventually buy him back, Always wanted JKS + BnTeT duo
2021-01-14 07:52
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#64
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Australia B_Tannen
2019 results is no good if that form doesn’t carry through in the roster. I’m not hyped considering the challenges they face now.
2021-01-14 08:38
decent AWPer would make them real top10 team
2021-01-13 13:48
#11
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Switzerland Jeded
Delusional JKS fan but doesnt have complexity flair???????
2021-01-13 13:48
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Im a fan of Jks and coL, but i like the 100T core as well
2021-01-13 13:56
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Sweden Nappev
liazz got robbed the star roles because of jks. nto saying jks isnt better, but liazz was clearly held back. gonan be interesting
2021-01-13 13:51
2 replies
for sure
2021-01-13 13:55
#29
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Indonesia DioBrando
Yep like Twistzz, but my boy carry potter still can do it better in the team
2021-01-13 14:05
#13
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Australia B_Tannen
Renegades as they are have more potential than EXTREMUM.
2021-01-13 13:52
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if they change malta for a better rifler, then they could be top15 ez
2021-01-13 14:04
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#31
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Australia B_Tannen
There aren't a lot of good lurkers available, especially ones that Renegades could sign. This roster is proven top 20, if anything I'd invest in better coaches and analysts.
2021-01-13 14:06
2021-01-14 08:27
#14
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Asia loveall
If jks joined extremum, it would've been perfect for you, that flair looks very good.
2021-01-13 13:53
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true
2021-01-13 14:05
-azr +jks Best team in the csgo history
2021-01-13 13:54
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#17
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Australia B_Tannen
Who IGLs then?
2021-01-13 13:55
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jkaem easily can igl
2021-01-13 13:57
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#22
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Australia B_Tannen
That team was struggling enough without an IGL change. My hopes are high either way.
2021-01-13 13:57
#23
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Australia Sify
No
2021-01-13 13:57
I hope in the future, -azr +dexter and -gratis +better AWPer
2021-01-13 14:04
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definitely in a year or so
2021-01-13 14:05
#33
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Russia btt1
azr maybe yes but don't touch grat
2021-01-13 14:09
#32
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Indonesia DioBrando
Nice move, liazz back to lurking and get support by best asian support player This team will be top 10 for sure if gratata can get back to the form
2021-01-13 14:06
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+1
2021-01-13 14:10
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#41
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Indonesia DioBrando
I remember when he played in ORDER Sadly, he got shitty role in 100 thieves
2021-01-13 14:17
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+1 Take a look at this #56 Im sure you'll enjoy taking a look
2021-01-14 08:19
#39
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Australia csRIOTgo
BnTeT will play support? :O
2021-01-13 14:13
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#40
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Indonesia DioBrando
Maybe idk but i just predict dude Cuz BnTeT support>>>>>liazz support
2021-01-13 14:15
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+1
2021-01-13 14:27
+1
2021-01-14 08:18
man just get jks for grat, its not like grat awp'd much on t sides anyway and im sure someone could awp ct sides, i know jks can but you would probably want him on rifle, maybe liazz?
2021-01-13 14:10
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grat is really good. He was always setting up his team , even while awping and didnt get much space. See how he goes tho, there are a lot of really good awpers in europe
2021-01-13 14:12
#36
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Russia win73ry
Liazz should be removed honestly.
2021-01-13 14:11
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Liazz was considered to be Jks 2.0 but he got cucked in roles. Let him play his actual roles before judging him and see how he goes
2021-01-13 14:12
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#42
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Russia win73ry
I know what he was considered and I called him overrated then as well.
2021-01-13 14:19
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He will prove you wrong if he gets his old roles back
2021-01-14 08:01
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+1
2021-01-14 08:18
#56 If anyone is overrated, its JKS. Liazz is underrated. Hes a good rifle, and if you wanna argue back about it after the info that I just gave you then there is nothing I can do for you. You're unreachable.
2021-01-14 08:18
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#62
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Russia win73ry
Yeah, because him playing against Australian teams, which are maximum tier 3 worldwide, proves something. Talking about the second link. Firstly, Liazz's stats are still influenced by his career in Australia where he played for the most time. Secondly, it's the rating 1.0. Thirdly, the only stats Liazz is better at there: Assists per round (0.06 better than jks), surviving (1.3% better), KAST (1.9% better, but Liazz has also played 108 maps less), opening kills (0.01 better, no comment). I want to also remind you that those are HUGELY influenced by his career in Australia where he mostly faced tier 3+ teams.
2021-01-14 08:30
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I would like to just point these things out to you. 1) Liazz played on ORDER in 2018. In that year, they only attended B-rank, A-rank, and one S-rank tournaments. Meaning they most likely played more than just T2-T3 Australian teams (I remember watching FaZe vs ORDER multiple times back then when I was a FaZe fan, plus they played other decent up and coming teams like Greyhound Gaming and Ghost Gaming). So yeah, that does prove something. 2) Liazz has played in the support role for the last 2-3 years. So while his stats are definitely higher because of when he was a star rifle, there has been PLENTY of time for his stats to go back down to where they would be as a support player. So if you think they're still influenced from shit that happened almost 3 years ago then you're braindead. 3) I never said that Liazz's stats were better than JKS's, I said "Liazz, all time, has roughly the same stats as JKS does, while being in undesirable roles and JKS was star rifler." MEANING, that Liazz has ROUGHLY the same stats as JKS, all time, whilst being a SUPPORT instead of a MAIN RIFLE. 4) The stats for both players, all time, are over 800+ maps. Meaning that a couple games isn't gonna change their stats very much. So Liazz has roughly the same stats as JKS whilst having to work harder because his entire job was to set up JKS for success as a support rifle. 5) Liazz isn't just all aim no brain like some pros in the game currently and past. He is extremely intelligent and makes good decisions mid round all the time. Not saying JKS doesn't either, but Im more hype for a Liazz clutch than a JKS one. With JKS its most likely just gonna be pure aim to win it for him while Liazz most of the time relies on positioning, game sense, and aim to win it for him.
2021-01-14 08:49
i remember when bntet was linked to the 2017 renegades roster but tyloo was so difficult to dealt with so he stayed. but damn bntet and jks on the same team, i can only dream...
2021-01-13 14:33
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#45
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Indonesia DioBrando
I'm about forget that thing Thanks dude Do you still have the source?
2021-01-13 14:35
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yeah it would've been jks, azr, ustillo, nifty, bntet i think or maybe even before nifty youtube.com/watch?v=0W_FOxISpb0
2021-01-13 14:39
Smooya said that liazz was one of the most individually skilled players he had ever seen
2021-01-13 16:03
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He definitely is, he just got cucked with roles
2021-01-14 08:36
idk why people hate on liazz though all jokes aside. Like if they understand the position he was put into after joining renegades, then it would make sense more ig
2021-01-14 07:59
To all the people saying that JKS is better than Liazz in the star role, which is what Liazz would have with this line up. Here ya go, those are JKS 2020 stats versus Liazz 2018 stats before he joined Renegades and still had the same role as JKS. Plus, that was over 112 MORE maps for Liazz. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4679/jks/.. And if you wanna compare their stats now, then here you go as well. Liazz, all time, has roughly the same stats as JKS does, while being in undesirable roles and JKS was star rifler. I get that Liazz didn't have the support role his entire career, but he HAS had it for the last 2-2.5 years which is plenty of time to effect stats and ability to play the game. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4679/jks/.. Liazz >>> JKS JKS is good, but he is overrated asf...
2021-01-14 08:15
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