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ive wanted bntet to be on the same team as Jks and the boys for years, but i guess this is the closest we can get. This roster IMO will do good if not great. Jks is a little better than bntet, but if liazz is in the star role, and back to lurking like he was in ORDER, i 100% see this team being a top 5 team again. Dont say liazz was shit blah blah if you didnt watch him in AU. Depending on AZR's performance, I think Dexter would be the next move, and (this is my hypothetical) either Grat to rifle, or -Grat +INS, and get Alistair or Acor. EZ 100 Majors.
Looking forward to see what these guys can do this year.
Also dont say grat is a shit rifler, hes good as
Hope they dont get scammed because they are some shady russian mafia org
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whaaat ?
Aren't usually russians the least to scam people? People always put them on the bad side of everything in history.. i rly dont get it.
but i dont see nothing wrong. Just great to see another org, with money, fresh air to the scene is good.
not old, Orgs (like EnVy for ex), that have no idea what they are doing and just burning money.
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they are a russian org that had a twitter account with 33k followers and 1 like per post with only bots commenting, funded by "very rich private investors", while they had a tier 4 CS team and a tier 3 DOTA team. To me that makes no sense and screams money laundering or something like that.
BenTeT will just turn into new jks
Carry Potter <3
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+1 hes as cracked as he is jacked
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No
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No, Renegades haven't proven themselves on internationally at LAN, They had one good LAN event at DreamHack Open Leipzig 2020 and to be honest they only beat Mad Lions (Right before Hunden was kicked) and the old NA C9 with the South Africans
There only other international LAN event with the 5 is IEM Katowice 2020, finishing 13-16th, 100T finished 5th-6th
The roster wasn't struggling with JKS, They were a consistent top 10 team in the world in 2019 when LANS were a thing, Sure, JKS was by far the best player but by adding BnTeT it allows Liazz to have more freedom and hopefully fill the roles, You're forgetting Liazz when he was competing in Australia was far more impressive than Dexter or INS at the time
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I said they’re proven top 20 internationally.
Yeah everything was fine, that’s why they all split up right? For a tournament winning roster with potential to be top 2 NA, they achieved nothing in 100T, choked their good runs and for the most part were irrelevant at tournaments with much worse teams. Why would the roster now start working without the best player in it? Too many things have to go right for success, so my hopes aren’t high. And they’re going to have much more competition in Europe than NA or OCE.
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Top 20 internationally doesn't come close to 100T
They split up because the ORG dropped out of CSGO, Jkaem was keen to try a Norwegian super team (That was suppose to get a lot better players coming in that never did) and JKS got a ridiculous amount of money thrown at him to at least try an international team
As i said, The roster would be better with JKS instead of literally anyone (Apart from AZR cause IGL ect ect) but without JKS it lets Liazz play the roles he was suppose to, At least give him a go and it doesn't role clash with BnTeT letting those 2 be your stars when previously it was just JKS being a star with Jkaem being a very impressive entry
2019 they already prove themselves to be top 10 in the world, Yes, INCLUDING EU TEAMS, I'm not saying they will be better but they at least have a chance with Liazz and BnTeT not having any role clashes
Who knows, JKS was rumored to come back maybe Extremum can eventually buy him back, Always wanted JKS + BnTeT duo
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decent AWPer would make them real top10 team
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Im a fan of Jks and coL, but i like the 100T core as well
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for sure
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if they change malta for a better rifler, then they could be top15 ez
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malta is life
hltv.org/matches/2336324/liquid-vs-grayh..
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true
-azr
+jks
Best team in the csgo history
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jkaem easily can igl
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definitely in a year or so
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+1
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grat is really good. He was always setting up his team , even while awping and didnt get much space. See how he goes tho, there are a lot of really good awpers in europe
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Liazz was considered to be Jks 2.0 but he got cucked in roles. Let him play his actual roles before judging him and see how he goes
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He will prove you wrong if he gets his old roles back
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Yeah, because him playing against Australian teams, which are maximum tier 3 worldwide, proves something.
Talking about the second link. Firstly, Liazz's stats are still influenced by his career in Australia where he played for the most time. Secondly, it's the rating 1.0. Thirdly, the only stats Liazz is better at there: Assists per round (0.06 better than jks), surviving (1.3% better), KAST (1.9% better, but Liazz has also played 108 maps less), opening kills (0.01 better, no comment). I want to also remind you that those are HUGELY influenced by his career in Australia where he mostly faced tier 3+ teams.
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I would like to just point these things out to you.
1) Liazz played on ORDER in 2018. In that year, they only attended B-rank, A-rank, and one S-rank tournaments. Meaning they most likely played more than just T2-T3 Australian teams (I remember watching FaZe vs ORDER multiple times back then when I was a FaZe fan, plus they played other decent up and coming teams like Greyhound Gaming and Ghost Gaming). So yeah, that does prove something.
2) Liazz has played in the support role for the last 2-3 years. So while his stats are definitely higher because of when he was a star rifle, there has been PLENTY of time for his stats to go back down to where they would be as a support player. So if you think they're still influenced from shit that happened almost 3 years ago then you're braindead.
3) I never said that Liazz's stats were better than JKS's, I said "Liazz, all time, has roughly the same stats as JKS does, while being in undesirable roles and JKS was star rifler." MEANING, that Liazz has ROUGHLY the same stats as JKS, all time, whilst being a SUPPORT instead of a MAIN RIFLE.
4) The stats for both players, all time, are over 800+ maps. Meaning that a couple games isn't gonna change their stats very much. So Liazz has roughly the same stats as JKS whilst having to work harder because his entire job was to set up JKS for success as a support rifle.
5) Liazz isn't just all aim no brain like some pros in the game currently and past. He is extremely intelligent and makes good decisions mid round all the time. Not saying JKS doesn't either, but Im more hype for a Liazz clutch than a JKS one. With JKS its most likely just gonna be pure aim to win it for him while Liazz most of the time relies on positioning, game sense, and aim to win it for him.
i remember when bntet was linked to the 2017 renegades roster but tyloo was so difficult to dealt with so he stayed. but damn bntet and jks on the same team, i can only dream...
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yeah it would've been jks, azr, ustillo, nifty, bntet i think or maybe even before nifty
youtube.com/watch?v=0W_FOxISpb0
Smooya said that liazz was one of the most individually skilled players he had ever seen
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He definitely is, he just got cucked with roles
To all the people saying that JKS is better than Liazz in the star role, which is what Liazz would have with this line up. Here ya go, those are JKS 2020 stats versus Liazz 2018 stats before he joined Renegades and still had the same role as JKS. Plus, that was over 112 MORE maps for Liazz.
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4679/jks/..
And if you wanna compare their stats now, then here you go as well. Liazz, all time, has roughly the same stats as JKS does, while being in undesirable roles and JKS was star rifler. I get that Liazz didn't have the support role his entire career, but he HAS had it for the last 2-2.5 years which is plenty of time to effect stats and ability to play the game.
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4679/jks/..
Liazz >>> JKS
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