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PGL Major Stokholm 2021
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Germany TrTafitson 
Are valve out of their minds? They actually give PGL another major after that shitshow that was PGL Krakow 2017. That thing was just bad in so many aspects ( I was there to widness it) how are they getting another major to destroy. Also the first major since Covid-19? Is this just me? What do you guys think?
2021-01-14 16:39
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You dont think a company can use 4 years to improve the product especially since it only benefits them to make a better product?
2021-01-14 16:39
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#29
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Germany TrTafitson
2021-01-14 17:00
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I mean they dont do many tournaments full stop. But i'd say the issues that occurred in the first can easily be rectified. I also think the effort put into this major will be unrivaled
2021-01-14 17:11
#2
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Poland Totali_
actually PGL playoffs were quite good, but teams in finals were not that good
2021-01-14 16:40
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#5
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United States TopBaiter
Lmao, Dosia will go to your house and sex you
2021-01-14 16:41
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Sex-God * But sure, he will sex us
2021-01-14 17:05
#14
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Germany TrTafitson
PGL Playoffs: - Seemingly more delays then playtime - Sent the audience home during Big-Immortals cause they failed to get their schedule right - Most Stewards did not speak english (I had to ask other audience members what was going on, when they were throwing us out, cause stewards could not answer me) - Website to book tickets was polish, you could only pay in zloty and it broke down multiple times; customer support was not there - even more delay times - did i mention delay times?
2021-01-14 16:46
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#32
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Afghanistan KFB4
-I think you forgot about the massive delays
2021-01-14 17:03
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#34
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Germany TrTafitson
Right thank you
2021-01-14 17:04
#53
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Namibia KhT
you forgot about delay times
2021-01-14 17:27
#3
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Netherlands RiberiA
Just mad ESL (germany) didn't get it.
2021-01-14 16:41
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#8
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United States TopBaiter
why tho, Cologne has had 3 majors already
2021-01-14 16:43
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+1
2021-01-14 16:44
#19
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Germany TrTafitson
I mean if ELEAGUE still did CSGO I'd be happy with them, theyre majors went great in terms of production. Right now ESL is probably one of the few TOs, that actually want to hold a major and are good at it, but that has nothing to do with them being German for me.
2021-01-14 16:49
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Ever heard of giving an second chance, and learning from mistakes you've made in the past? Clearly not.
2021-01-14 16:49
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#28
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Germany TrTafitson
How about they prove themselves in a non major tournament first? They did not do any CSGO tournaments since that major and I should just believe that it will all be better this time because they had the time?
2021-01-14 16:59
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This is just an ultimate challenge.
2021-01-14 17:00
Hello, just to inform you, in the last eleague major PGL were involved in their production.
2021-01-14 17:16
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#52
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Germany TrTafitson
1. Source? 2. Tbf only looking at production, not accounting for scheduling, delays and internet outages, PGL Krakow was not that bad either Just looking at the whole picture well they fkd that one up
2021-01-14 17:26
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Well, I'm like these guys with source trust me because I can't really find anything after 2 years, there is a guy that works for PGL his name is serano ( his instagram insta.serano) he posted multiple stories where he showed how they're working behind the production at eleague major. You can believe me or not it doesn't matter, but for sure PGL production is very good and what I saw from the chinese events that they hosted they evolved a lot, I think that this major will be a good one.
2021-01-14 17:34
#4
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Brazil 1mig
PGL is sad for me (Immortals fan) so no PGL pls mens))
2021-01-14 16:41
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#7
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United States TopBaiter
Immortals should have won that major
2021-01-14 16:42
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#10
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Russia VelsVivard
If they should have they would have. The only champs are those who got trophy now.
2021-01-14 16:44
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#12
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United States TopBaiter
True, I am happy that Zeus is the most successful Ukranian player
2021-01-14 16:44
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#18
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Brazil 1mig
+1
2021-01-14 16:46
#21
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Russia VelsVivard
For as long as he's been around, it would be a crime not to be. It's not for long though.
2021-01-14 16:50
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#22
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United States TopBaiter
s1mple gotta train harder
2021-01-14 16:52
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Name checks out
2021-01-14 17:14
#25
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Germany TrTafitson
No they shouldnt have. Gambit was the best team at this event by far. Immortals very nearly lost to BIG already and then beat VP who were already starting their way downwards ending with their disband probably more getting carried by polish fans (which were by far the best thing about this major) into this semis. Meanwhile Gambit destroyed Fnatic and Astralis and then Immortals aswell.
2021-01-14 16:57
#1 has a point but also you have to take into account which TO's actually want the major. Dream hack are too small, Blast probably dont want one as it is too expensive, Flashpoint just started up and ESL are probably going to get he next one.
2021-01-14 16:41
#9
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Canada gritabit
Things that were not PGL's fault: Group stage upsets Playoff upsets Things that were PGL's fault: Technical problems Stream problems Delays Seeding Terrible playoff bracket (you could argue that every team on Gambit's bracket was better than Immortals')
2021-01-14 16:44
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Yet gambit won the major against all odds. you're just salty that no T1 team won the major.
2021-01-14 16:46
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#23
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Canada gritabit
Nah I was cheering for Gambit against Astralis. The games were great and they deserved the major win but people downplay the major win because of those factors and because the final was against Immortals
2021-01-14 16:54
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you may consider that Astralis Gambit match was grandfinal
2021-01-14 17:11
GIVE BLAST A MAJOR PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2021-01-14 16:45
mb next year it can be in perlin
2021-01-14 16:46
i prefer having major with pgl than having no major
2021-01-14 16:46
#24
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Portugal MrPato
Yeah... idk 2 years without a Major i was expecting something bigger. I wouldn't mind if they kept Brasil as the hosts. They could have chosen ESL, ELeague, etc etc... but they went and chose PGL, after they made the worst Major we've ever seen back in 2017, idk but that doesn't hype me at all, i'd rather wait another year and have a Major during the Spring of 2022, but with the production value of ESL or any other, than to have a Major this year with PGL's production
2021-01-14 16:54
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#27
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Canada gritabit
Faceit London was worse than PGL in terms of delays and matches. Pretty sure Valve didn't choose ESL or ELEAGUE because of covid in Brazil and the US, where both TOs were probably offering to hold the major.
2021-01-14 16:59
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#37
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Germany TrTafitson
Dont think eleague offered at all tbh. Theyre not really doing CSGO anymore because its to violent or something :/
2021-01-14 17:07
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Violent lol +1
2021-01-14 17:19
#50
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Canada gritabit
They hosted a Mortal Kombat tournament in April 2020 so I would mainly assume they disappeared because of a perceived drop in interest and a lack of opportunities to hold another tournament because ESL/IEM/Dreamhack owns 80% of the year
2021-01-14 17:21
better than no major and also Gambit another win
2021-01-14 17:00
lets go fnatic will win infront of home crowd
2021-01-14 17:02
Idc I live in Sweden now and I am so happy I will be able to watch my first major in person
2021-01-14 17:04
Cuz maybe other organizers didn't want 2 take any risks with this incertitude, especially after esl lost a lot on the rio project. Also give pgl some credit, maybe they have the experience 2 get it right now.
2021-01-14 17:07
Pgl are actually very good but not a lot of people know. Last eleague major pgl were involved in their production.
2021-01-14 17:12
#41
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Indonesia sTakaTaka
majors wont be the same without henryg and sadokist
2021-01-14 17:12
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But Sadokist will come back to casting this year, right?
2021-01-14 17:14
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Russia Rapu
PGL... Gambit... Good memories :)
2021-01-14 17:13
ez4gambit
2021-01-14 17:14
it's called improving after 4 years
2021-01-14 17:17
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#51
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Germany TrTafitson
2021-01-14 17:22
blast major best major
2021-01-14 17:17
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