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device to overtake GTR
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Austria Cheesle2 
we all know device will be in the top 20 this year. When it is announced, device will overtake Get Right as the most decorated player in cs history (in terms of top 20 results). if you consider a top 1 to be worth 20 points and top 20 to be considered 1 point, Get Right sits at 91 total points while device sits at 90. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HLTV
2021-01-15 12:39
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csgo.. not cs. GTR was 2 times 2nd in cs ah sorry 91 included the cs 1.6 right
2021-01-15 12:42
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Dev1ce 0 times number one player of the world.
2021-01-15 14:59
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in a far more competitive seen that this game has ever had yes. GTR got high up placements when NiP was playing chess while others were playing checkers sort of thing
2021-01-15 15:29
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#80
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Reunion Esquinox
+1
2021-01-15 16:11
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THE GOATs are Fallen, GTR, Coldzera, S1mple and Olofmeister. Period!
2021-01-15 20:01
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#106
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Reunion Esquinox
goat != relevant 2 years
2021-01-15 20:02
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GOAT! = 0 times the best of the world
2021-01-15 20:09
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s1mple 2018 not best? who was better
2021-01-15 20:12
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I said s1mple between GOATs u blind?
2021-01-15 20:15
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GOAT = 0 times the best of the world s1mple 1 times best of the world having trouble understanding, I cannot make it any more simple to understand
2021-01-15 20:17
Bruh I'm like one of the biggest GTR Fanboys on the planet, but if you don't think device is as decorated as GTR, or don't think that he is as high as GTR on the top players of all time then you're delusional. VERY few players have been as consistently amazing as device. F0rest, neo, GTR and that's pretty much it in terms of being so successful for so long.
2021-01-15 17:32
#2
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Australia B_Tannen
NEO goat anyway.
2021-01-15 12:41
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#5
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Netherlands poeya1
f0rest>
2021-01-15 12:42
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#12
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Australia B_Tannen
NEO 7 majors f0rest 4. NEO 1 player of the decade f0rest 0.
2021-01-15 12:44
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#14
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Netherlands poeya1
zzzzzz f0rest was god in csgo NEO bot
2021-01-15 12:44
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#15
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Australia B_Tannen
Completely different roles.
2021-01-15 12:45
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#16
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Netherlands poeya1
yes but you can clearly tell wich player adapted and stayed very skilled in csgo and which other was still a legend but more supportive role csgo
2021-01-15 12:46
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#17
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Australia B_Tannen
In GO f0rest was definitely better but imo NEO's 1.6 performance carries him.
2021-01-15 12:48
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#18
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Netherlands poeya1
You are right bro, NEO better 1.6, but overall in all of cs imo f0rest goat not neo. but it can be both mens))
2021-01-15 12:48
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#21
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Australia B_Tannen
From what I've heard, f0rest could have been 1.6 GOAT if he was more committed to individual performance and improving upon it.
2021-01-15 12:55
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NEO is nowhere GOAT of cs. His performance in csgo ruined that chance. f0rest all the way
2021-01-15 14:54
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#51
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Australia B_Tannen
NEO was definitely better in 1.6 and f0rest was definitely better in GO. Puts them on very even playing field but the prestige of 1.6 is different to modern CS.
2021-01-15 14:58
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#56
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United States TopBaiter
true
2021-01-15 14:59
+1
2021-01-15 14:54
8 replies
#53
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Australia B_Tannen
2021-01-15 14:58
7 replies
No csgo wayyyy more competitive
2021-01-15 14:59
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#60
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Australia B_Tannen
6 majors, player of the decade, 7th 2010 and best 2011 compared to 3 majors, 6th best 2010 and 5th best 2011. NEO takes 1.6. Common knowledge f0rest is better in GO. That’s very even. Now depends which game you value more for the prestige.
2021-01-15 15:02
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Fym what you value more f0rest was miles ahead of NEO in GO While NEO was better than f0rest in 1.6 but f0rest a good competitor 1.6 GOAT- NEO CSGO GOAT- Dev1ce CS goat in general in both games-f0rest
2021-01-15 15:04
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#66
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Australia B_Tannen
How can f0rest be GOAT of all CS if he isn’t GOAT of either game?
2021-01-15 15:08
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You want devve to be GOAT of all cs when he didn’t play 1.6 or NEO? Who was pretty shit in csgo
2021-01-15 15:09
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#69
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Australia B_Tannen
That’s why this is difficult. Can’t be device, NEO better 1.6 but f0rest better GO, all depends on opinion.
2021-01-15 15:11
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If NEO 10/10 in 1.6 f0rest 9.5/10 If f0rest 8.5/10 in Go Neo 7 18>17
2021-01-15 15:13
#52
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United States TopBaiter
+1
2021-01-15 14:58
1 reply
#54
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Australia B_Tannen
2021-01-15 14:58
it terms of accomplishments they're pretty even in csgo, f0rest just retained his individual skill which doesn't change the fact that he's currently playing for a pretty shit team with relatively unknown players
2021-01-15 14:34
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He left NiP he wasn’t kicked
2021-01-15 14:55
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So he could continue playing with GTR on Dig like he had done for years previously on Nip. However that didn't work out either and now GTR is switching to Valulrant and f0rest is gonna be stuck down in T2-T3 now because no one will pick up a rifler that old for T1 competition when you could just as easily get a younger player with even more cracked aim. The Legends of cs are gone, and now's it's time for the new generation to start making their name. GTR is gone, F0rest no longer in T1, Olof is gonna retire, GuardiaN wants to make a comeback but who's gonna take a fourth chance on him, Karrigan probably only has a couple years left if that. Rip legends, you will all be missed.
2021-01-15 16:17
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:(m
2021-01-15 17:11
0/8 s1mple GOAT
2021-01-15 12:43
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#13
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Australia B_Tannen
Mechanically of CSGO? Yeah probably.
2021-01-15 12:44
Only for delusional nostalgic idiots.
2021-01-15 13:43
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#27
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Australia B_Tannen
I'm a GO person. But 6 x 1.6 majors, player of the decade, 1 major and more success in GO.
2021-01-15 13:49
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+1
2021-01-15 14:31
2021-01-15 15:05
ok, but who cares, this is only csgo, in csgo even someone from tier 5 is better than dev1ce (skill)
2021-01-15 12:44
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0/8 bait
2021-01-15 12:43
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this is not bait
2021-01-15 12:43
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You try to play against device himself?
2021-01-15 12:44
what?
2021-01-15 12:44
#19
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Austria Cheesle2
no this isn't just csgo. This includes all top 20s. If not, device is well ahead of GTR
2021-01-15 12:49
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its just csgo
2021-01-15 13:37
delusional
2021-01-15 16:33
#4
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Pakistan LoOuU2
DEVVE CSGO GOAT
2021-01-15 12:42
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+10
2021-01-15 13:39
flair checks out
2021-01-15 14:51
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name and flair checks out, s1mple is not "greatest" but "most skilled"
2021-01-15 14:53
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s1mple is both greatest and most skilled.
2021-01-15 14:53
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nt Sam2K
2021-01-15 17:28
+1
2021-01-15 17:26
Who cars s1mple GOAT anyway
2021-01-15 12:43
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+1
2021-01-15 14:51
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nt b0t
2021-01-15 15:02
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just looking out for your health mens)) delusional disorder is a real disease but it is treatable and you might be able to find some good psychologists around your area. they are a little expensive though
2021-01-15 15:03
Been the goat for a while now
2021-01-15 12:51
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#28
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Brazil pooternd
no top1 no goat, device sucks
2021-01-15 13:56
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+1
2021-01-15 15:02
add 20 for 2012 and 30+ for pre 2010 to gtr. device still needs 3 years he would also need to be 1st for 3 years. gl with that not while you are not even the best in your team
2021-01-15 12:59
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well he is the best on his team but just because of his passive awping you guys underrate him, he even started playing deagle and ak last 2 months to make you cry about what you were saying about him not being a top 5 rifler and only good with the awp while being passive
2021-01-15 14:30
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yes, i agree, he the 4th best in his team after gla1ve (by far the best), magisk and dupreeh. gl tho with being the best player 3 years in a row like gtr
2021-01-15 14:33
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being top 5/3 for 6 years straight >>> being top 1 for 3 years straight then starting to disappear
2021-01-15 14:38
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He still appeared in top 20 till 2016 sooo.
2021-01-15 14:59
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yeah ik but after that year he dropped so hard its insane
2021-01-15 15:11
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Something like 10 years in t1 scene,you expect him to drop off either way. And in 2017 he had only 0.01 less rating than in 2016 so. His bad years started at 2018 when he had 0.99 rating.
2021-01-15 16:06
HAHAHA youre so stupid
2021-01-15 16:35
he was always using the AK quite a bit.
2021-01-15 16:34
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yeah especially on inferno where he made every player that goes to banana his bitch
2021-01-15 16:35
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true. he has some insane games where he just explodes and wins the T half basically by himself even when his teammates aren't capable of anything.
2021-01-15 16:37
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i dont understand why u always hating every player on Astralis except dev1ce, they are all good/ insane (dupreeh and magisk)
2021-01-15 16:38
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where did i hate on them?
2021-01-15 17:01
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when his teamates arent capable of anything, that happens quite rarely and if that ever happens its 2 players performing bad at max
2021-01-15 17:04
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It's not
2021-01-15 17:24
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Netherlands ONGix
Each legend had been known for being unstoppable at it's prime vs any player. device doesn't answer this criteria, he shall be the GOAT of angle-holding and the GOAT at being under a good IGL and coach.
2021-01-15 13:42
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Well said
2021-01-15 14:08
And Im sure he Will enjoy reading this with all his mvps and major trophies while zywOo and simple can fight over #1 xD
2021-01-15 14:42
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#74
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Netherlands ONGix
Why would he read this only virgins browse HLTV
2021-01-15 15:27
1 reply
+1
2021-01-15 16:34
what i dont understand is you guys hating him, calling him an eco fragger and angle holder when he was a top 5 player while playing rifle in 2015 and thats without gla1ve and zonic, so cry is free
2021-01-15 16:36
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People dont understand true greatness when they see it. Theres no fuzz around him like there is with simple and zywoo, he's just doing his thing in the silence and wrecks everyone.
2021-01-15 17:31
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+1 expected response from that smart name
2021-01-15 17:34
fnx 6 majors neo 7 majors astralis 4
2021-01-15 14:32
gtr would have been 1st in 2009 and 2012 if there was top 20 for those years, the guy was a beast. He would've been 1st 2009 2nd 2010 2nd 2011 1st 2012 1st 2013 1st 2014
2021-01-15 14:34
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true, he is the true GOAT
2021-01-15 14:48
who cares about get wrong
2021-01-15 14:38
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I bet you didn't even play back then when CS had 30-50k players, so why are you trashtalking Get_Right? Most of hltv users here weren't even born when he was already playing LANs and making a name for himself. The amount of energy & effort he put in to get there was truly inspirational & degenerate. Heart & soul for the game. Everyone talks about NEO vs f0rest but completely ignores the stat monster that GTR was. God_Right cs:go peak was unreachable in 2013 (as it is now too @ stats, 7 years later), the gap between him and anyone else was that big. Devve or s1mple (even zywoo if he keeps going like this) = #1 cs:go player overall, just as NEO (judging by a hltv user POLL) #1 cs 1.6 player overall, but #1 player of all time in this franchise is GOD_RIGHT. I don't care how he is playing now or what he will do next, but disrespecting a guy that did so much in this game is low iq bait
2021-01-15 15:25
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yeah I'm reading that for sure
2021-01-15 15:27
never a true top 1 if you have never been top 1
2021-01-15 14:43
s1mple is the GOAT
2021-01-15 14:51
GTR has been there since before these lists have existed. device is the CSGo GOAT, arguably, not for all CS. NEO, GTR, f0rest, markeloff are all contenders for CS 1.6
2021-01-15 15:02
#70
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United States Swadplan
You forgot that GTR will be top 2 this year, zywoo will not make it
2021-01-15 15:12
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+1
2021-01-15 16:35
#77
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Russia Skengdo
Robbed by s1mple last year.
2021-01-15 16:08
device is the GOAT of CSGo. GTR is probably the GOAT of CS.
2021-01-15 16:08
#79
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
GOAT!
2021-01-15 16:10
It is inevitable.
2021-01-15 16:40
He can't cuz he was never top 1
2021-01-15 17:30
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I hope you know that in literally any other sport or esport Device would be the undisputed GOAT because of his majors and MVP medals alone. The fact that we even have a top 20 list is dumb as it doesn't mean anything. You can be the most skilled player ever but be stuck in t5 and never achieve anything.
2021-01-15 17:44
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I hope you know device is a worse player than s1mple so he can never be GOAT. GOAT means to be the player that played individual better than anyone else before him and after him. Device couldn't even get top 1 when he won 2 majors in a year and had 2 more mvps than s1mple. So nope device would not consider as GOAT...
2021-01-15 18:12
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The G in GOAT means "Greatest" not "Best". Plenty of analysts say K0nfig is one of the most mechanically gifted players but not a single person considers him to be in the GOAT conversation. Device is the GOAT and S1mple is the BOAT.
2021-01-15 19:45
Why would you scale it to follow a linear pattern? Maybe use a logarithmic scale to decide on the points?
2021-01-15 20:05
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#112
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Austria Cheesle2
im quite bad at maths sorry mens :(
2021-01-16 02:57
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