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#2 Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Russia qwerplayer 
Why is blameF below electronic? What the fuck Ok, I understand that Na'VI was better than col all year, Na'VI has better results, but col also played a lot of cool tournaments, although the results are worse, but there is one big win on Blast in June with a prize of 500 thousand dollars In my opinion, the difference in the tournaments played and their prestige in Na'VI and col is not as big as HLTV thought. The difference, of course, is there, but not so big... In my opinion, a huge difference is when the world or sh1ro begin to compare with the players who took 15-20 places. These two players have played too little against the best teams to qualify for a spot in the 2020 top twenty. But blameF destroys electronics in almost every statistic, rating 2.0, kast, impact, adr, kpr, etc Almost (almost!) with any filters, blameF is certainly higher in statistics than electronic ones. blameF is also much more stable at the end of the year, but Electronic has an advantage in the form of statistics against the top 5 teams. It turns out that statistics against the top 5 teams, an MVP medal in an offline tournament (not at a level 1 tournament, but at level 1.5) and team achievements are what overlap blameF's absolute superiority over Electronic. Really? I am 100% sure that it was the smelly MVP medal of the tier 1.5 Ice Challenge tournament that put Electronic above blameF. These lan tournaments in the early year was given too much importance. Well, I can congratulate s1mple on the first place in 2020.
2021-01-15 21:30
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Nothing is confirmed wtf?. Explained now here this shit doesn't count statistics it does count LAN's and Online Katowice is like 1.5 of MVP and bonus stats also blameF didnt had any MVP with ropz elec had MVP for ICE Challange 2020 and some EVP's despite his 1.14 KD avg (This show MVP's no matter what LAN or Online weight gold in this year)
2021-01-15 21:35
8 replies
They said on HLTV confirmed that Katowice MvP is worth almost as much as major MvP
2021-01-15 21:40
5 replies
Major was worth 1.5(more likely) or 2.0 which still ends
2021-01-15 21:41
Major MVP is 1.5, or 2 MVP at max
2021-01-15 21:58
This doesn't make any sense as dev1ce major MVP in 2019 was seen as trivial and didn't change anything at all. Katowice's weight is being put way higher than any major which is dumb in my opinion.
2021-01-15 23:48
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he got 3rd in 2019 what else you want him to get. he will never be above s1mple or zywoo he is a great player but not a god. But Navi got top 4 at every event but 2, was was cologne and 1 was the event coach cheated like every round/map. Also as 3 bots in navi the only reason they have been getting top 4 at events is because of s1mple and electronic. he deserves to be above blameF.
2021-01-15 23:57
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Did you see my flair ? I love Electronic and him being higher feels great since his stats don't show all his impact and what he does on the server unlike s1mple who has a bit of inflated stats. I would have been happier if he had even worse stats considering he's an entry, and takes huge amount of space on the map, he's never passive like s1mple, Ropz or BlameF, especially on the T side. I'm just concerned that this logic is not applied to all players like dev1ce, ZywOo and others and was just applied for s1mple's last year and Elec this year. The top 20 is not about who has better "mechanics" otherwise s1mple wouldn't be top 1, HEN1 and etc wouldn't be in the top 20... Dev1ce deserved #2 last year, I have already posted a ton of arguments in both dev1ce's case and s1mple's case in other threads so I won't argue anymore. Feel free to find them if you have time.
2021-01-16 00:46
#109
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Lithuania Extazis
Tournaments don't matter I remember someone had incredible stats and didn't win anything
2021-01-16 00:25
1 reply
MVP do in this year
2021-01-16 03:04
0/8 MVP medal tell’s the reason why is s0mple>zywoo? Really?
2021-01-15 21:34
19 replies
He s technicly right but wrong Katowice is like 1.5 worth of MVP do not overestimate it but still don't make such deal of it Online MVP is like 1.0 worth of it also Katowice adds some bonus stats for s1mple but we just saw that MVP's (any) are more worth than just statistics. Unless its like 1.2 KD and most maps against top 5 in place of blameF it was like this
2021-01-15 21:37
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#11
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Ukraine McSwell
Sure, online mvps in 100k RMR like DH and cs_summit lost finals >> Katowice LAN mvp WIN by that logic kkkk
2021-01-15 21:41
16 replies
You are acting delusional right now MVP is MVP get over it. MVP Lan will be a bit higher but not that much and my theory proved times and time again.
2021-01-15 21:40
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#27
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Ukraine McSwell
Sure, especially when electronic is at least top-5 with 1 LAN mvp while yuurih is top-14 with 3 online mvps
2021-01-15 21:45
14 replies
yuurih played against less of top 20 teams most of NA teams weren't even in top 20 and more seriously even in top 5
2021-01-15 21:47
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Ukraine McSwell
So the competition side and tournament value is matter for mvps value. And Navi were more succesful than Vitality in EU tournaments acording to hltv ranks, despite french were very good at EU rmr-s. So should mvp-s be valued.
2021-01-15 21:49
12 replies
ofc they are valued so these CIS and NA are less relevant if you play EU with stacked.
2021-01-15 21:50
Na'Vi was really succesfull at first beggining of the year in the Middle Astralis started waking up and Vitality dominated the end of year
2021-01-15 21:51
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#46
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Ukraine McSwell
I am talking about final 2020 team ranks published by hltv at late december. 1 Astralis. 2. NaVi 3. Vitality. That means despite Vitality were good at eu-rmr (where Navi can't even participating), or during late 2020 - NaVi still ranked higher. So should player mvps be. Any rmr mvps, especially in lost finals - are actual trash imo, even 4 of them should be valued lower than Katowice LAN.
2021-01-15 21:56
8 replies
If you think 2 mvps have chance even with higher placement overpowering 6 you're wrong. But i gotta give s1mple has more EVP's
2021-01-15 21:58
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#60
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Ukraine McSwell
I was told the same about team achievements. Vitality had Blast Spring, ESL Cologne, 2 eu rmr finals + Blast Fall and IEM Beijin wins, NaVi had "only" Kato win + IEM Beijing / ESL Pro League finals. And still got ranked higher.
2021-01-15 22:08
6 replies
Na'Vi didn't only had kato win + iem beijing / ESL Pro League Finals but was getting into finals easily including winning CIS RMR etc they also got ice challange finals and others
2021-01-15 22:14
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#66
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Ukraine McSwell
So that's should be counted in players comparison as well. Because if not - it will be an example of double standards.
2021-01-15 22:15
4 replies
it is but not as tournaments but EVP's for s1mple
2021-01-15 22:17
I think we should wait for results it's tied as HLTV had yet not really given anything to work with.
2021-01-15 22:18
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#74
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Ukraine McSwell
I agree. I am not saying s1mple 100% will win and zywoo has nothing to compete with, but same as vice-versa.
2021-01-15 22:26
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neither do i
2021-01-15 22:40
MVP's are more important but they won't be valued differently on EU region lol , probably CIS and NA has less stacked tourneys so their MVP's weight less
2021-01-15 21:52
I just meant that s1mple has a much better chance of taking the top spot this year than in 2019. Although, if you know, back in 2019, everyone thought that the undisputed top 1 would be ZywOo, but in fact Hltv has been thinking about this decision for a long time. And s1mple for the first time ever, did not know in advance what place it will take (His phrase from his girlfriend's stream by few days before 2021) By now he probably already knows It just goes to show that ZywOo's 6 medals didn't make him an obvious top 1 of 2020.
2021-01-15 21:59
well actually all people with more than50 iq people know that this ranking is full of delusion and wrong decisions
2021-01-15 21:34
9 replies
Stay seething loser
2021-01-15 21:37
Niko will be 4th btw
2021-01-15 21:38
7 replies
its ok, deserved
2021-01-15 21:38
6 replies
Elec is 5th
2021-01-15 21:38
5 replies
imo undeserved but whatever. i have stopped caring abut this ranking after #17 krimz
2021-01-15 21:39
4 replies
Why did you keep caring after #20 bruhze lmao
2021-01-15 21:43
3 replies
i had still had hope back then
2021-01-15 21:44
+1
2021-01-15 21:51
yikes
2021-01-15 23:49
#4
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Brazil Thorik
#1 Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
2021-01-15 21:34
2 replies
who
2021-01-15 21:44
1 reply
#78
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France Aalkhaan
That one guy who made top 1 as a rookie at 19 years old
2021-01-15 22:33
#8
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Russia ToughGuy
oh god what did i read i'm pretty sure u didn't read any top20 articles but hey look blamef has better rating so it means he should be above elec if not than its 100% katowice were value so huge!!! LOOOOL hltv users logic smh
2021-01-15 21:38
45 replies
i mean elec had EVP in Katowice and he had MVP which means he ll be placed higher unlike blameF and ropz
2021-01-15 21:41
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#19
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Russia ToughGuy
"...although that was as high as he could get given his noticeably lower sample size at the biggest events and in their playoffs especially. blameF recorded only 20 playoff maps at big events, and even though his 1.13 rating there was impressive overall, it was the lowest among the top seven players of the ranking."
2021-01-15 21:41
43 replies
ye he also had farmed statistics against tier 2 3 4 this 1.22 is unnoticable in high rankings
2021-01-15 21:43
Also top players should be looked via tips from HLTV twitter not hltv page (which is full of delusions) everything points out right now that top 1 fight is tied.
2021-01-15 21:43
35 replies
6 MVPS to two can never be tied. You're implying 4 tournaments = 1 katowice? Even if it was a major that wouldn't be true
2021-01-15 21:47
34 replies
i didn't say 4tournaments i said 1.5 which means s1mple MVPS are 2.5
2021-01-15 21:48
28 replies
Then its not even close to tied. 2.5 to 6 is tied? Poland math or what?
2021-01-15 21:50
27 replies
????? I meant in terms of statistics when you look up MVP's ZywOo dominates Though on HLTV it says it's tied i also look on HLTV twitter which favourably says ZywOo wins Impact Rating 2.0, Best Pistol Player
2021-01-15 21:54
26 replies
Zywoo has just as good stats tho? S1mple leads in Kills. Zywoo leads in Impact ADR KAST clutches and entries. Literally the ONLY thing S1mple has done better than Zywoo this year is stay alive til the end of the round more and get more kills as a result whether that's to saving more or trading more teammates.
2021-01-15 21:55
25 replies
I mean stats are mystery mostly bro. I saw different stats in HLTV then twitter at first time i realised that these stats on HLTV are worth jackshit admins have statistics that are later given into calculation for top 20. Also proffesour scheme says that s1mple has lead in top 20, top 5 and zywoo better top 10 , tied 30 50
2021-01-15 21:57
24 replies
And that's where the MVPs will come in to break that tie. The statistics are quite even imo yes but its clear Zywoo having the most MVPs by far will put him over the top. Literally 3x as many as anyone else.
2021-01-15 22:00
23 replies
ZywOo's 6 medals did not make him an obvious top 1 of 2020, based on the words of the Hltv admins and s1mple himself on one of the streams (he said that for the first time in his life, he does not know what place he will take)
2021-01-15 22:03
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I could give a rats ass what s1mple thinks. Anyone with a critical mind for statistics can easily tell Zywoo was superior. And the Admins just say that to create hype. What you think they're gonna say "its obvious Zywoo wins, don't come to our website to find out" ofc not. They like the #1 drama/hype
2021-01-15 22:08
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Yo, man You need to be more objective and go deeper into the whole structure before you write such messages without negative
2021-01-15 22:09
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Please tell me what I could improve on, what did I say that wasn't objective? Everything I've said is based on stats and awards. Not random BS s1mple has said. Maybe stop projecting and take your own advice you extremely obvious s1mple fangirl with 0 arguments. Seems like you're just reaching incredibly hard to find something because I've countered all your arguments. When YOU have an objective argument lmk, again not something s1mlple has said, that's irrelevant. An actual argument based in logic.
2021-01-15 22:15
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You have already been given enough arguments in personal answers and if you look through the topic, why s1mple can take the top 1 this year and these arguments do not say that s1mple will become an unconditional top 1, but only show that it has a huge chance of becoming the first this year. But you don't care what people write and what the direct participants of this top say. And you think your behavior is objective? Once again, no adequate person will say that s1mple is the undisputed top 1 of 2020. He only has a huge chance to take this place. And in case you haven't noticed, I haven't written a single angry comment or spoken badly towards this or that player and you're calling me a fan girl? I will be happy with any outcome, because both players are worthy of the first place
2021-01-15 22:29
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Blah blah blah. Retract retract retract. Defense defense defense. So basically you admit you ran out of arguments to back up s1mple and now you're trying to take the high road. Cool dude, enjoy it. Thanks for conceding
2021-01-15 22:30
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Oh, yes, I didn't notice the French flag right away You need to change your nickname to " Mr. Objectivity"
2021-01-15 22:32
16 replies
Keep deflecting bro, you're not even arguing the point anymore. Just trying to not take an L at this point. Just give up. You have 0 arguments for S1mples case.
2021-01-15 22:34
15 replies
As you wish, you won
2021-01-15 22:37
1 reply
Thanks for conceding
2021-01-15 22:38
You're way too harsh on maybe the only guy on this thread who didn't side with either and wasn't delusional. It's sad to see you're doing the same as these s1mple fanboys. Did you have a bad day or something ? Maybe HLTV isn't the best place to hang out, you could easely get tilted by idiotic or ignorant takes we've seen in many threads since blameF's #6th place came out. I'm yet to find any convincing argument for s1mple's top 1, besides the ones SWARN151 provided a month ago, on this thread and another thread, so don't bully kind russians, just bully the fanboys^^.
2021-01-16 00:00
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Don't tell me how to spend my time buddy :) Worry about yourself. I'm sure you have some demons to deal with just like everyone else. Take your own advice. When you start trying to be a therapist on HLTV you're likely way too far gone.
2021-01-16 00:02
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You're not far off from the truth and I'm no therapist, I just said that because I'm equally if not more triggered by anti-intellectualism or idiotic/ignorant or flawed takes we are seeing in this thread. You being aggressive just proved my point as I wasn't saying anything remotely offensive, I was just giving you an advice which I couldn't commit to myself and wasted time on people who didn't deserve any second of it unfortunately.
2021-01-16 00:34
Wow, how nice to see such adequate people
2021-01-16 00:08
9 replies
If only you could be adequate AND logical like him. Unfortunately my respect is reserved for those who choose to use their entire brain.
2021-01-16 00:10
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You already showed all your mind a few messages earlier, we kind of closed the discussion, I didn't answer you.
2021-01-16 00:11
7 replies
Stay quiet then :)
2021-01-16 00:12
6 replies
Don't tell me how to spend my time buddy :)
2021-01-16 00:12
5 replies
It wasnt an option. If you have no arguments then shut your mouth. Your comments are useless at this point. You conceded, go home.
2021-01-16 00:13
4 replies
You continue to shine with your mind
2021-01-16 00:15
3 replies
Weak cringelord comment, just stop trying to be relevant when you provide nothing more to the thread, its over
2021-01-16 00:16
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I do not prove anything to you and did not prove, you understand everything perfectly, but you continue to write your pseudo-cool comments, thinking that your opinion may not agree with the other At least admit it to yourself Stop replying to me So be it, I'll do it for you after this message
2021-01-16 00:20
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More super cringe philosophical loser shit that has nothing to do with the discussion because all you can do is deflect and take the high road. I could be nice to say and say you have decent arguments but I'd be doing you a disservice, your argumentative skills are absolutely dogshit and im embarrassed that there arent more intelligent people that i can easily discuss topics like this with.
2021-01-16 00:24
mvps got out of control losing player shouldnt get that many mvps like zywoo winning cologne mvp is stupid vitality got destroyed in finals when u lose 3-0 mvp should go to winning player only i can understand a losing player winning mvp he hard carry them to 3-2 lose or have absurd stats
2021-01-15 21:58
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When he's by far the most impactful player at the tournament yes he should. But your opinion about whether he deserved them is irrelevant, he got them therefore the rankings will account for that.
2021-01-15 21:58
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edited
2021-01-15 21:59
like him winning blast spring mvp makes sense even tho baitf has great stats too but he hard carried them in finals but still lose
2021-01-15 22:00
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hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?event=5202 Zywoo leads in like 7 more categories. .06 higher rating which is about 12% if you use a .9-1.4 scale.
2021-01-15 22:04
s1mple had 1.24 rating and 28 maps in playoffs in 2019 and even way less against top 5 opposition and no 2nd places, only one tournament win, twice as less than dev1ce in terms of maps in playoffs and even less for top 5, top 10 and 1.19 rating. x3 times the amount of MVPs also and 7 EVPs and got #3 ( it doesn't make sense, even SWARN151 which is less opiniated than I am sided with me on this). I love seeing Electronic higher, he does things which aren't shown into stats. But I think you're using a double-standard on this one saying stats don't matter, or don't have that much impact etc. Why should you find these arguments for Elec, arguments you don't find for ZywOo ?
2021-01-15 23:53
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The difference in the individual game s1mple and dev1ce is too big Dev1ce is a very cool player, but mechanically he is much lower than s1mple, this does not allow him to become higher than him MVP medals and team achievements cannot cover such a huge individual gap.
2021-01-16 00:06
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you're not ranked on mechanical skills otherwise Niko would have been higher in 2019^^
2021-01-16 00:28
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2021-01-16 00:32
#106
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Russia ToughGuy
I said that cuz blameF has different situation, most of his games against top30 opponents which he farmed on events like sweethome cups which weren't taken in top20 list and as I said already s1mple with device it's absolutely different situation since s1mple had 0.07 rating gap between him and device and better notable stats etc.
2021-01-16 00:17
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You're right it's different but the notable stats weighted a lot in dev1ce's favor. Oh well, that's in the past I guess, still a miss in my book though. We'll see what the top 4 looks like this year.
2021-01-16 00:29
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Russia Skengdo
Nvm.
2021-01-15 21:39
#16
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Turkey RENNNDER
MAD
2021-01-15 21:40
ropz > electronicc > blamef lmao. Electronic is way better, he isn't a baiter
2021-01-15 21:42
keep dreaming zywoo > s2MVPple
2021-01-15 21:43
#28
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Brazil MimimiBR
With lan or not, simple have a better year
2021-01-15 21:45
.although that was as high as he could get given his noticeably lower sample size at the biggest events and in their playoffs especially. blameF recorded only 20 playoff maps at big events, and even though his 1.13 rating there was impressive overall, it was the lowest among the top seven players of the ranking."
2021-01-15 21:46
Wait literally 20 hours to read an article with clarifications on why electronic was placed higher, cmon
2021-01-15 21:49
#33
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Russia reguix
vs top 5 BAITF-1.14 GODTRONIC-1.21
2021-01-15 21:51
1 reply
+1 baitF — Home Sweet Home farmer
2021-01-15 21:51
s1mple has better rating in elite events. He has more maps. He has more playoffs played. He has better grand finals rating. He has better playoffs rating. He has more EVPs. ZywOo has 3 stier and 3 atier MVPs. s1mple has 2 S tier MVPs ( katowice should be double). And s1mple could have won 2 of the 3 Stier MVPs which ZywOo have if NAVI won . And at IEM BEIJING s1mple got robbed cause of that 1v4 clutch by ZywOo. s1mple had better FINALs rating which should have given him the MVP. s1mple has better rating vs top5 (0.02) and worse rating vs top10 (0.01) and better was top 20 and tied vs top30 and top50. And s1mple has been consistent through out LAN and online. So I do not only see KATOWICE leaning towards s1mple? The only reason I would give it to ZywOo is 6 MVPs but expect that everything leans towards s1mple. And he deserves this. Alot of people just watch highlight channels on YT I think. Or people just watched some CS in last few months only. s1mple should be top1 if not hes getting robbed. And do not cry about baiting. BRO STOP BAITING PLEASE!!!!!!! s1mple had better year if you watched both teams. I have watched every NAVI match, and almost all Vitality/Astralis map aswell. And I can tell you s1mple was better player.
2021-01-15 21:49
8 replies
Yes, you're right. As if you read my mind, I just didn't want to write any more text :D
2021-01-15 22:08
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Ukraine McSwell
That actually true. Zywoo fans insisting on mvps (half of which are lost eu-rmr which wasn't even proper tournaments) and "KAST + Impact" overall stats. But if you're looking on other things - s1mple is dominantly ahead in almost everything left.
2021-01-15 22:16
You are so right. Gonna copypast that to every s1mple doubter.
2021-01-15 22:16
Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. Simple has more baiting. And I'm not cyring because hopefully hltv mods are not retarded and will give n1 to zywoo. Hope I answered all your points.
2021-01-15 22:39
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lol ok I really do not care. But why are french people being so delusional. Like I get there is guy who can play some cs better than silver but it doesnt mean everyone else in the world is trash. @ me when ZywOo wins MAJOR. Tbh will not even care if he wins major.
2021-01-15 22:42
2 replies
Simple is trash. Playing his life and baiting EVEN on FPL. Look at survival stats on terro side WTF. Hopefully someone will finally do a full stats on how much he gets dropped for so many years and the debate will be closed. He has the best mechanical in the world. That's all. average aim (lol @1v1 against xantares, and I do think ropz is even better) and poor to very bad teamplay Zywoo is much more balanced and has the second best mechanical But if you ask me I would put device as n1, Zywoo as n2, and simple out of top 10.
2021-01-15 22:50
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Well you're a bit too harsh but I have made a thread about s1mple's weaponry usage % in a form of a QUIZZ (wasn't the goal but it ended up giving conclusions): hltv.org/forums/threads/2403366/top-3-qu.. If you want to check it out.
2021-01-16 00:07
DID YOU COPY YOUR OWN COMMENT FROM THAT ANOTHER THREAD ? HOW DESPERATE ARE YOU ? No matter how many times you say it, I'm going to say it's a flawed response. So stop posting it ! You're exposed in that thread where I answered you when you used the same reply you posted it: hltv.org/forums/threads/2404251/s1mple-1..
2021-01-16 00:04
electronic is the opposite of a baiter, he deserves it one of the most underrated top player of the scene
2021-01-15 22:06
1 reply
Agreed to me he's the most important piece of the puzzle in Na'Vi, considering what he does on the map.
2021-01-16 00:05
#61
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Brazil hugoooo
ZywOo will be #1 and very few doubt that by now... wake up
2021-01-15 22:09
Because he has lower ratings against top 5-10
2021-01-15 22:10
1 reply
yes
2021-01-15 22:21
#72
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Germany striXSy
I also don´t understand it. I was shocked tbh
2021-01-15 22:22
#73
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I predicted ZywOo to be number 1 of 2020 but it remains a prediction or an educated guess. You too are estimating an educated guess that s1mple will be number 1, friend.
2021-01-15 22:24
Doesn't have to be that long s1mple top1 2020 zywhoo? KEKW
2021-01-15 23:49
#2 Oleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Why is Xantares below KRIMZ? What the fuck Ok, I understand that fnatic was better than BIG all year, fnatic has better results, but BIG also played a lot of cool tournaments, although the results are worse, but there is one big win on DH Leipzig in January with a prize of 500 thousand turkish lira In my opinion, the difference in the tournaments played and their prestige in fnatic and BIG is not as big as HLTV thought. The difference, of course, is there, but not so big... In my opinion, a huge difference is when the world or sh1ro begin to compare with the players who took 15-20 places. These two players have played too little against the best teams to qualify for a spot in the 2020 top twenty. But Xantares destroys Krimzs in almost every statistic, rating 2.0, kast, impact, adr, kpr, etc Almost (almost!) with any filters, Xantares is certainly higher in statistics than Krimz ones. Xantares is also much more stable at the end of the year, but Krimz has an advantage in the form of not being kurd. It turns out that statistics of not being kurd, an MVP medal in an offline tournament (not at a level 1 tournament, but at level 1.5) and team achievements are what overlap KRIMZ's absolute superiority over Xantares. Really? I am 100% sure that it was the smelly MVP medal of the tier 1.5 ESL Pro League tournament that put KRIMZ above Xantares. These lan tournaments in the early year was given not enough importance. Well, I can congratulate Zywoo on the first place in 2020.
2021-01-16 00:14
3 replies
u really copy pasted and replaced the text? 0/8
2021-01-16 00:32
1 reply
no this is the original, he copied
2021-01-16 00:33
Yo, man, xantares isn't destroying krimz statistically in 2020, it's ahead in many ways, but the difference isn't as big as blamef and electronic But I understand your message perfectly, and I myself was very surprised what the hell Krimz is doing on this list. This was the point of my message that lan tournaments at the beginning of the year were assigned a very, very strong value and Krimz was in 17th place in large part because of Katowice. And perhaps, Krimz on the 17th line in 2020 is one of the most strange and incomprehensible phenomena to me.
2021-01-16 00:42
+ about all the author topic!!!!
2021-01-16 00:40
Dire Wolves
1.12
munyanyo
5.65
EXTREMUM
1.09
Wisla Krakow
7.49
Vitality
1.22
ENCE
4.14
Bet value
Amount of money to be placed
Winning
Odds total ratio
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