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#5 electronic ?
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Serbia hitomi79 
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2021-01-16 00:06
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TACO | 
Germany kekeke_
TACO #1
2021-01-16 00:08
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#78
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Russia reguix
GOD FORGIVES ,TACO DOESNT
2021-01-16 08:59
#3
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
90% probability he will be there, otherwise the other 10% probability will place him 4th, by my estimations. I can't see him being Top 3...
2021-01-16 00:09
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#8
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Canada jaimejackz
+1 respectful and reasonable take
2021-01-16 00:15
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#17
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Denmark JKTP
That's jonty for you
2021-01-16 01:11
#25
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Sweden quacke
LAN MVP early in the year at ICE Challenge, compared to NiKo's single MVP. NaVi have had more deep playoff runs than FaZe as well. I think it'll be a close call, hard to predict. Personally I think electronic should be 4th with NiKo 5th.
2021-01-16 01:23
8 replies
ICE Challenge gives bronze MVP medal, IEM NY gives silver MVP medal. I doubt electronic will outrank NiKo, especially when NiKo has better ratings as well
2021-01-16 01:42
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#36
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Sweden quacke
It'll come down to EVPs more than ratings, and I think electronic could have more because NaVi made a lot more playoff runs than FaZe did. It's really tight and honestly there's strong arguments for both players so we'll just see tomorrow.
2021-01-16 01:56
2 replies
EVPs will definitely help elec, but idk if it will be enough. If he gets 4th spot tho, I'll be very happy
2021-01-16 01:59
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#40
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 - It would be great for Electronic to get the fourth spot yet again, last year he got 6th.
2021-01-16 02:09
#41
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Most definitely close, we will see if the either the EVP's or the ratings takes priority, I guess. I think it'll come down to the wire, personally.
2021-01-16 02:10
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#80
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Sweden quacke
Who gets what spot doesn't really matter to be honest, this whole list is up to interpretation and there's strong arguments for them both to get the 4th spot. Hoping for electronic.
2021-01-16 12:01
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#81
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It would be good for Electronic to get the 4th spot yet again. :D NiKo's individual statistics are so damn good, though...
2021-01-16 12:02
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#86
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Sweden quacke
True, but the playoff runs... ropz also had very high ratings throughout the year, but was punished because mouz didn't make many playoffs. NiKo was on a flailing FaZe for 75% of the year which should impact him quite a bit.
2021-01-16 12:10
I wouldn't be surprised if he was 4th and niko 5th
2021-01-16 00:10
If he is also higher than niko, then this will be the worst list of the best players of the outgoing year
2021-01-16 00:10
5 ELECTRONIC 4 NIKO 3 DEVICE 2 ZywOo/S1mple 1S1mple /ZywOo
2021-01-16 00:13
26 replies
yeap
2021-01-16 01:08
+1
2021-01-16 01:09
1 reply
+1
2021-01-18 13:55
#21
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France Tytane
ZywOo #1 ..
2021-01-16 01:19
21 replies
Well.... no..
2021-01-16 01:22
20 replies
#27
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France Tytane
well.....yes... you will see 100%
2021-01-16 01:25
19 replies
I can ENSURE you that s1mple will be one, or well, i'm 80% sure, IF electronic ends up 4th, s1mple will 100% get #1. The reason is consistency throughout the year, zywoo was gone 7 first months together with vitality, meanwhile navi has always competed at top lvl while s1mple has been consistently putting up numbers apart from the CIS RMR which wont even be counted.
2021-01-16 01:45
18 replies
#46
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France Tytane
ZywoO 6 MVP remember s1mple ??
2021-01-16 02:34
5 replies
this wont matter, If i'm ap ro player and i'm gone for 7 months, come back the last 5 months and dominates, how can i possibly be claimed the best player of the year when i was gone for more than half?
2021-01-16 02:53
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#56
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France Tytane
dont care you will see just dont be mad becose #1 two years in a row
2021-01-16 03:03
3 replies
You cant argue, also there's no counter argument to mine cus I'm right.
2021-01-16 03:17
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#61
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France Tytane
i dont have to say anything aside we will see
2021-01-16 04:15
1 reply
he is right tho
2021-01-16 12:07
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
"IF electronic ends up 4th, s1mple will 100% get ." There is no guarantee this will happen, it is just assumed or estimated via an educated guess.
2021-01-16 02:39
6 replies
No jonty, Simple already has the stats to end up #1, the only thing fighting against him is vs top10 and mvps. Niko on the other hand has higher ratings than Electronic, most likely same amount of evps(Electronic might have an edge in this department) If electronic ends up #4 it'll be because of hltv over-valueating katowice, and in that case simple will, most DEFINITELY, reach #1.
2021-01-16 02:55
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#53
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I can understand your logic and I actually agree to an extent but there is still a possibility your estimations may not come to pass despite your educations presumptions, is all I'm saying. Until the announcements are made, we don't know anything, it is just guessing.
2021-01-16 03:02
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#94
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United Kingdom Tarrix
REALLY??? holy you are probably the most boring human being
2021-01-16 12:17
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#95
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
So I've been told many times... A pleasure to see you again, of course.
2021-01-16 12:26
1 reply
#99
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United Kingdom Tarrix
hahahaha you mental game to strong
2021-01-16 12:31
obviously we are not god or from hltv staff just expressing our opininons dont need to state obvious you look like dumb
2021-01-16 19:29
they say the more you are confident the more you're gonna get done goofed let's see if it applies to you
2021-01-16 02:57
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Its not that I'm confident, I'm just factual. I know what i see, its a simple as that. I've also been right about every single top1 placement so far, this year is definitely the closest apart from 2015,
2021-01-16 03:02
s1mple was more consistent in 2019 as well, with only 0.01 difference in rating between the two.
2021-01-16 04:46
2 replies
Doesnt matter, every stat and everything leaned towards zywoo that year.
2021-01-16 05:04
Also zywoo wasnt gone for 7 months lol
2021-01-16 05:04
#30
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1
2021-01-16 01:39
zywoo s1mple device niko electronic
2021-01-16 00:20
2 replies
Device Simple xantares Electronic Niko
2021-01-16 00:48
1 reply
2021-01-16 01:01
+1 can confirm
2021-01-16 00:55
#14
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Serbia hitomi79
he was great in 2020
2021-01-16 01:07
#18
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Brazil Goelfla
maybe
2021-01-16 01:15
if he is #4 then s1mple is definetly the #1 this year
2021-01-16 01:16
1 reply
It's already been confirmed with blame at 6 and ropz at 7, the two lans have way too much value.
2021-01-16 01:17
#31
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Serbia hitomi79
I also think that Denis deserves #4.
2021-01-16 01:39
#34
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Slovenia Quicker007
5 electronic 4 Device 3 NiKo 2 Zywoo or s1mple 1 s1mple or Zywoo
2021-01-16 01:45
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5 NiKo 4 electronic 3 Device 2 Zywoo or s1mple 1 s1mple or Zywoo
2021-01-16 12:10
I am 95% sure it's elec 5th and niko 4th
2021-01-16 02:21
#58
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Argentina Crissgf
Yes 5- electronic 4- niko 3- device 2- zywoo 1- s1mple
2021-01-16 03:24
1 reply
exact same with my list
2021-01-16 03:31
Top5 for elec is underserved. He fucked up the second half of the year, was inconsistent at that time, while blameF and ropz were consistent through the year.
2021-01-16 04:36
2 replies
Why are you evil, david?
2021-01-16 08:48
1 reply
It's my old nickname from Dota 2.
2021-01-16 08:54
Yes.
2021-01-16 04:37
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2021-01-16 04:45
#71
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Russia VelsVivard
I don't really think he even deserves the 5th spot, he'd be a better fit for, 7-8 placings. He was mediocre for his standards for a huge portion of time.
2021-01-16 05:05
#72
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Korea ramza72
Elec top 2 s1mple top 1
2021-01-16 05:24
1 reply
+1 Perfecto top3 flamie top4 Boombl4 top5 EZ
2021-01-16 12:15
Electronic is most likely to be 5th. I would be very surprised (not shocked though), if he gets 4th.
2021-01-16 08:52
19 replies
Yeah, with all problems in this year NiKo deserved #4 spot more.
2021-01-16 08:55
18 replies
Well, factors outside of the game are obviously not counted. I was talking with reference to stats and achievements. Niko is 0.01 ahead of elec in "elite" events, but he has lesser maps than Elec. Elec also has many more play-offs than Niko, and possibly a good playoffs rating as well. Electronic would also have slightly more Big events EVPs than Niko, most likely. They have 1 MVP each. All of this makes it close between them. I still think it favours Niko, because of his overall stats. That being said, it's actually possible that Elec gets 4th, although (imo) unlikely. Have a nice day :)
2021-01-16 09:00
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#90
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
actually niko has 1.13 rating in 44 playoff maps, while elec has 1.21 in 58. however, niko has way better stats (1.19vs1.13) in big events. if elec gets 4th, s1mple is 1st 100%
2021-01-16 12:13
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I am not sure about playoffs ratings, since I haven't done those calculations. That's quite a difference! There are only 8 elite events in 2020, though. Here is the list: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. It was confirmed By Striker-HLTV.Org
2021-01-16 12:18
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#96
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
i did calculate those ratings in playoffs in big events myself. in playoffs of elite events niko's stats are even worse: 1.07 in 22 maps, elec has 1.23 in 47.
2021-01-16 12:27
14 replies
That's quite a difference, indeed! Did you do the calculation for ZywOo/s1mple?
2021-01-16 12:35
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#102
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
yeah, in elite events zywoo has 1.36 in 33, s1mple has 1.35 in 47. in big events they are also the same.
2021-01-16 12:42
2 replies
Damn, are you really confident about those numbers? Did you verify for any of the other players revealed so far? It's really insane how close they are 0_0. Thank you for your efforts! Have a nice day :)
2021-01-16 13:05
1 reply
#110
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
i was just bored at night and I might have missed something, but overall i think stats are accurate. same to u!
2021-01-16 13:48
You said electronic had 1.23 in 47 playoffs maps. Today's article said electronic had 1.22 in 45 maps. Pretty close. Can you go and check where the mistake may have occurred by you? Also, using these same maps/matches that you used now, can you confirm once s1mple's and ZywOo's ratings in play-offs again? It would be really helpful. Thanks in advance :)
2021-01-16 20:10
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#117
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
yeah, i was gonna do it again
2021-01-16 20:11
#119
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
so, i checked one more time, and it seems like hltv did not consider heavily-boosting 1.55 rating against mad lions at dreamhack masters spring, cuz mad lions is not top team. then elec has 1.216(which is 1.22) and 45 maps. i think there can't be any other reasons.
2021-01-16 20:28
7 replies
Hmm, perhaps (kinda strange tbh :D). What about s1mple/ZywOo, using the same maps/tournaments?
2021-01-16 20:33
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#122
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
cuz of this, s1mple has only 1.32 in 45. if i delete 5 maps with nip, zywoo has 1.32 in 26, but if i consider those 5 maps, he has 1.34 in 31. nip was little bit better than mad lions this year, so it's up to hltv now.
2021-01-16 20:40
5 replies
okay. Thanks :)
2021-01-16 20:42
4 replies
#124
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
no problem. who do u think will be top 1?
2021-01-16 20:46
3 replies
A friend of mine just sent me a calculation of playoffs rating. If it is correct, it is literally 50/50 now. I can't decide. Stats would put it in s1mple's favour, definitely. MVPs are too much for ZywOo too. s1mple would have many EVPs though. In the end, I really can't say. It's like a coin toss.
2021-01-16 20:51
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#126
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Kazakhstan Kenda11
yeah, same opinion
2021-01-16 20:51
1 reply
You can check my recent thread once. It is important info. Maybe we can do the calculations again. Peace :)
2021-01-17 10:52
YES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOP ASKING THIS
2021-01-16 12:06
#84
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Ukraine StaR1y
top-4!
2021-01-16 12:08
YEP
2021-01-16 12:12
device is #5 trust me mens
2021-01-16 12:33
2 replies
no
2021-01-16 12:56
1 reply
ok
2021-01-16 12:59
#103
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France Uexo
deserved
2021-01-16 12:52
yes
2021-01-16 12:55
Who else would it be then?
2021-01-16 12:56
#109
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Serbia hitomi79
Personally, I would love to see electronic on #4, besides ropz and hunter, he is one the game's best riflers today. plus if we add teammate factor, he is electronic and Niko is a bit egotronic.
2021-01-16 13:11
well tbh i can see Niko and Electronic battling for that 4th and 5th spot and 3rd will probably be Dev1ce and then second and first is really a 50/50 between S1mple and Zywoo
2021-01-16 13:50
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#112
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Serbia hitomi79
true indeed
2021-01-16 14:25
top 4 100%
2021-01-16 19:44
Yes
2021-01-16 20:02
Yes
2021-01-16 20:12
Yes
2021-01-16 20:32
Forsaken #1
2021-01-17 10:55
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