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#1
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Romania Anonym20
based every country should do the same
2021-01-16 17:05
33 replies
#3
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
You mean you *want* to take away freedom from website operators to run their own website like they want to?
2021-01-16 17:06
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#17
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Finland ye6ok
big tech will survive dont worry
2021-01-16 17:15
Unironically yes. These wee websites have literally enabled governing parties to be overthrown. There was never a ‘free market’. Everything has been subjected to a form of regulation since the dawn of capitalism... so spare me of this ‘muh freedom to run my website’
2021-01-16 17:20
#52
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Poland DefeN
If their policy is against freedom of speech (which is btw one of the most fundamental rights in most countries), then why shouldn't we?
2021-01-16 17:44
7 replies
#73
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
Because it means typing the nword fifty times as a post can't be deleted because it's technically free speech?
2021-01-16 19:06
5 replies
yeah but if someone say something bad about white people, then it's ok for most of these websites
2021-01-16 19:15
3 replies
+1 nice double standards
2021-01-16 19:35
+999
2021-01-16 21:46
+1
2021-01-16 22:02
No dude, hate speech is not allowed in Poland I assume. So if it brakes the law then the deleted comment or banned user does not have the right to claim anything from the platform.
2021-01-16 21:48
Can i ask you what kind of posts would get deleted but will be restored under this new polish law? I am curious cause i can't think of any atm(not 100% sober)
2021-01-17 04:07
COMMUNISM 😎😎😎
2021-01-16 17:54
i remember u, u are a blm leftist defender lol. gl with ur life
2021-01-16 17:59
7 replies
#72
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
I am an anarchist capitalist
2021-01-16 19:05
6 replies
Lmfao
2021-01-16 19:33
XDDD
2021-01-16 21:46
HAHAHAHHAAHHA
2021-01-16 21:49
nice oxymoron
2021-01-16 22:02
1 reply
It's not an oxymoron.
2021-01-17 02:37
#168
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Australia z3ro_
LMAO
2021-01-17 04:07
there is a dilemma. social media says they arent responsible for individual posts on social media so they arent sued if they show a crime there. that was true til now. as long as they banned trump, the company says it can be responsible as a journal is responsible for a journalist post.
2021-01-17 02:53
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That's both a misunderstanding of private property rights, and a misunderstanding of section 230(c)(1) of the US' Communications Decency Act
2021-01-17 02:54
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bbc.com/news/uk-politics-55609903 this reveals a discussion to change how social medias are regulated. if they control who publishes there, it will get the same regulation as a journal.
2021-01-17 03:00
just to add some informations. first of all, i totally agree trump is responsible for superficial political polarization, multiples conspiracy theories and attacks on democracy, but that's not the discussion here. 1. as i said above, this ban shows social medias selecting people to publish on their sites, isn't it similar to a journal? 2. they banned trump before middle east/venezuela/chinese dictators/government profiles. do you really think trump did something worse than those people? this shows how they have biased modus operandi.
2021-01-17 03:14
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1. No. Journals actively select content to collate, and to publish. They will pick things suitable and in line with the theme of the content they provide. Social media, on the other hand, allows anyone to post; it is functionally opposite to a publisher. 2. Those other leaders didn't violate the rules in the content they've posted, nor is Twitter a Middle Eastern/Venezuelan/Chinese business. It has no reason to take action.
2021-01-17 03:16
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i dont think i even need to discuss the 1st topic, its pretty much a fact. it's a discussion in multiple countries. social media cant control and arent responsible for posts or they can control and are responsible. it isn't fair not be responsible for posts there, but can select users. the main argument to not be responsible was the inability to control the userbase. just a quick google i can show you some hate speech made by public people on twitter and activists complaining about that. nytimes.com/2021/01/14/technology/trump-.. businessinsider.com/twitter-dehumanizing.. voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/tw.. note: im not saying trump was censored and it's a free speech case. im just saying social medias when banned trump changed their business modus operandi, so they probably will get other regulations.
2021-01-17 03:36
you know you like it until its against you.
2021-01-17 02:54
1 reply
I like private property rights because they are most beneficial *to me*
2021-01-17 02:56
Yes
2021-01-17 03:38
GOD BLESS MY COUNTRY WE ARE GOING TO BECOME RICH
2021-01-16 17:07
Based and alpha as fuck. Beta Trump can cry on his banned account. Wait a minute he can't xDDDD
2021-01-16 18:00
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I imagined now trump moving to poland and creating new account lmao and twitter cant do shit to him LMAO. Or they ban him and trump goes to court for free 2.2mln XD
2021-01-16 20:58
+1
2021-01-16 19:35
governments are way to late on this shit tbh. They have let media platforms control speech and narratives while banning whoever they please. old boomers cant keep up.
2021-01-16 17:06
1 reply
+1
2021-01-17 06:06
#4
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Germany Bier
As long as you don't talk about gays/ womenrights and state no facts about the christian church i suppose
2021-01-16 17:07
12 replies
No, as long as you don't offend someone's religion facts =/= offending
2021-01-16 17:10
11 replies
define 'offending', you cant
2021-01-16 18:26
7 replies
in this case, saying "your religion is stupid, your god is an idiot and all people who believe in this are also stupid" qualify under "offending someone's religion"
2021-01-16 18:40
6 replies
these things vary by ppl and you cant just draw a line inbetween... so its pretty inconsistent the quote you wrote doesnt offend me, tho if i said 'theres pedos in the catholic church' that would offend some ppl, but also is a fact.
2021-01-16 19:56
5 replies
facts can't offend you
2021-01-16 19:58
4 replies
doesnt work like that in the real world lul
2021-01-16 21:29
3 replies
it works, only retarded people would've been offended if I would say that some % of the some people commit some % of the crimes, it's a fact and it doesn't offend anyone
2021-01-16 21:31
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theres a religion in the world called: 'the religion of peace'. if you call out this religion for being against human rights, youre gonna offend like 2billon ppl on planet earth, yet you only stated a fact
2021-01-16 21:34
1 reply
it's their fault that they got offended, in my opinion people should know the truth even if they feel offended (which they shouldn't)
2021-01-16 21:47
#114
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Germany Bier
Well facts don't get banned on Twitter either E: nvm the dude below me already pointed this out
2021-01-16 21:36
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i got many bans on twitter arguing with BLM activists, i used just facts and was pointing out their hypocrisy
2021-01-16 21:42
Religious people are mentally ill
2021-01-17 02:58
Try posting a LGBT jesus and see how it goes. Use your brain and think about this law for a bit. It will never work.
2021-01-16 17:08
12 replies
+1 Straight Jesus from Florida is far better youtube.com/watch?v=y2mccgB3XIk
2021-01-16 17:09
offending someone's religion is a crime so it shouldn't be covered with freedom of speech
2021-01-16 17:11
10 replies
Exactly. "Based" btw
2021-01-16 17:13
6 replies
yes, following the rules and laws is based
2021-01-16 17:13
5 replies
Unless you have to follow twitter's rules, right?
2021-01-16 17:16
4 replies
didn't know twitter's rules are above country's rules
2021-01-16 17:17
3 replies
Of course they are not. Do you know the story behind the "uploadfilter"?
2021-01-16 17:18
2 replies
what does it have to do with this case?
2021-01-16 17:20
1 reply
It's very similar actually. The story behind the uploadfilter thing is just as delusional as this proposed new polish law. Platforms will have to filter users/content under both laws.
2021-01-16 17:25
Jesus had 12 boyfriends, nothing offensive there. Just facts
2021-01-16 18:10
2 replies
that's your opinion
2021-01-16 18:12
Just one of them preferred $$$
2021-01-16 21:52
I like how advocating for 'freedom of speech' bs has essentially become a thing on whether you support far right values or not
2021-01-16 17:08
Despite making up only 8.517270731370743% of EU's population, Poland accounts for 99% of its basedness
2021-01-16 17:08
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cuz 99% of male poles are just internet trolls and baiters xddd
2021-01-16 19:17
1 reply
true
2021-01-16 19:48
#12
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Poland Astoner55
Very sad to see modern day Poland. I hope our government changes soon and we will find normality again.
2021-01-16 17:12
46 replies
#15
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Romania Anonym20
you should be proud of your government, one of the few with normal morals.
2021-01-16 17:13
36 replies
+1
2021-01-16 17:14
#19
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Poland Astoner55
LUL mate dunno if you're baiting or just genuinely believe your words, but trust me, our govenment is constantly encouraging hate, is very far-right when it comes to worldviews (and we all know every extremism is bad, no matter if left or right), and they're REALLY fucking up the economy of Poland since a few years. Our money constantly loses value, they make the taxes higher and higher... It is not the worst government like in China for example, but it's pretty bad. I really don't like extremism and they are extremists. Extremists are always just childish and unable to make a dialogue, which is REALLY needed in every civillised country.
2021-01-16 17:16
32 replies
PiS isnt Far right but it is encouraging violence its Centre right, and the People that believe this party are brainwashed
2021-01-16 17:18
#25
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Romania Anonym20
you don't know what extremist government means poland is centre-slighly right, that doesn't make it bad and it's not extremist and for the economy, you can't expect Poland to have economy like western countries at least not for now.
2021-01-16 17:18
21 replies
Theres no such thing as Centre sliglthy right Centre right
2021-01-16 17:19
14 replies
#32
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Romania Anonym20
ofc it is you believe right means terrorism and left is good? look at this political compass to have an idea : imgur.com/iLFae0Q Poland is in Liberal/Conservatism area.
2021-01-16 17:21
9 replies
btw Poland plans to promote this bill to other EU members
2021-01-16 17:22
8 replies
#38
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Romania Anonym20
yes, it's good you have to understand that neither extreme wings are good however conservatism promotes more things like traditional family, religion, opposition for abortion, opposition for pornography, promotes art etc imo this are good moral values and degeneracy shouldn't even be allowed.
2021-01-16 17:25
7 replies
There are good extreme wings too though
2021-01-16 17:27
6 replies
#42
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Romania Anonym20
nope tell me one extreme wing which you think it's good for this time period.
2021-01-16 17:28
5 replies
None right now. The Youth shall be the guidance not a freakin old man's club and their views are brainwashed.
2021-01-16 17:29
4 replies
#46
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Romania Anonym20
if you force the youth to follow your ideology and you don't give freedom to choose their own ideology is communism noone should force the youth which are more easily to be manipulated to believe in the ideology you believe in regardless if it's left or right.
2021-01-16 17:30
3 replies
I do not believe in forcing youth to follow my ideology sincelerly. The people have their choice
2021-01-16 17:31
2 replies
#49
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Romania Anonym20
that's why people are voting for a government if a country is more convervatist will choose a conservatist government and same goes for left ideology.
2021-01-16 17:33
1 reply
ik
2021-01-16 17:33
Why would centrist party ban abortion if it is centrist. Centrist party does not ban abortions.
2021-01-16 21:55
3 replies
You see you will not believe me but PIS is a weird shit overall its not PiS rulling Poland theres smth like Zjednoczona Prawica which means United Right, with other rightist parties some are conservative-liberal, conservatives and others. First of all PiS wasn't mostly for abortion ban, there was Konfederacja involved in it (Rightist Party that is mish-mash of ideologies).
2021-01-16 22:05
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PiS has majority of senat and they can push these law by them own. And if they were not pro abortion this law wouldn't be in existence. Also it's Kaja Godek a member of PiS whom introduced this law, and when this law came in to life she was the only women in whole Poland which was happy about it. Tell me more about PiS being a centrist eksde
2021-01-16 22:12
1 reply
Sejm not senate and Kaja Godek is not a member of PiS but member of Konfederacja and introduced it. She was mainly supportive of a faction that influences this shit.
2021-01-16 22:23
PiS is a left wing party
2021-01-16 19:31
5 replies
Eksde good one
2021-01-16 21:54
4 replies
2021-01-16 22:25
2 replies
Good one, and they are in union with party Korwin which if far right. Tell me which left wing party goes into union with extremely far right party. The most far right party in Europe. Please tell me.
2021-01-17 09:36
1 reply
They are not in union with Korwin party?? What are you talking about XDD Its factually incorrect XDDDDDD
2021-01-17 15:24
google.com/search?q=european+parties+pol.. This one aswell, top right its in red, which means left wing, authoritarian populist
2021-01-16 22:29
You will be far right version of China in a few decades bro.
2021-01-16 18:01
1 reply
I doubt you can become far right version of China especially that Poland doesn't have the power to create Tax Heaven in the country and would require insane ammount of cuts which people would start to hate. To create a perfect country you need plan, today there's lack of imagination creativity and plan for nation. Thats why politicians promise but don't give jack shit.
2021-01-16 20:12
wtf? pis far right? konfederacja is great examplr of how far-right party look like
2021-01-16 19:19
2 replies
#89
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Poland Astoner55
Yes, but konfederacja is also A BIT libertarian, while PiS is just auth-right when it comes to worldviews
2021-01-16 19:51
1 reply
Konfederacja is failed far right project its mash up of ideologies if they were to rule poland we could expect some kind shit that happened with BBWR they would collapse under pressure situation. Some have different opinion on the subject thats why it never will be elected and sometimes they talk bullshit. PIS is centre-right sometimes uses leftist agenda to gain supporters (with leftist influence) lol thats why polish politics are weird.
2021-01-16 20:10
Far-right? The far-right doesn't even have power anywhere in Europe, or NA.
2021-01-16 20:36
3 replies
#107
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Poland Astoner55
LUL Hungary and Poland would like to remind you that they exist. Of course they're not the most FAR on the compass, but they're definitely not closer to the centre than to the edge.
2021-01-16 20:54
2 replies
Nope, they're all a bunch of slaves to Zionist interests.
2021-01-16 20:56
1 reply
#109
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Poland Astoner55
0/8
2021-01-16 20:56
#26
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France Carrotaboy
+11
2021-01-16 17:18
+1
2021-01-16 19:37
Poland 1444-1795 (equality) / Poland 1918 - Poland 1939 (minority and majority poland) / Poland 1945-2020 (Poland that decline, is rascist and doesnt adapt
2021-01-16 17:17
6 replies
How is Poland declining? As far as I know Poland is the fastest growing economy in Europe
2021-01-16 17:22
3 replies
politically declines we are divided by 2 sectors
2021-01-16 17:23
2 replies
Ah. How do you measure that? You know there's not one ideology that's superior to other. People have different views on how their country should be run. Poland is doing fine. As far as I know Polish students score higher in International Olympiads than those who live in Western Europe for example.
2021-01-16 17:24
1 reply
There we're maps by the elections basically analyzing it you can see that western poland is more open to equality and LGBT+ while eastern poland rather keeps its traditional values. Economicly its also similiar Poland A and B, Western and Eastern sectors aren't balanced and Poland B is less developed.
2021-01-16 17:26
#53
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United States avestin
The commonwealth was based
2021-01-16 17:49
1 reply
"from every ending comes a new beginning"
2021-01-16 18:24
why are you so brainfuck????
2021-01-16 21:50
1 reply
#131
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Poland Astoner55
0/8.
2021-01-16 22:00
lefty cenzorship is good i hope we can get some money from this terrorists
2021-01-16 17:17
#21
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Brazil LILpeeper
Hmmm
2021-01-16 17:17
#30
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Ireland Sodaking
honestly Based
2021-01-16 17:19
While i dont agree with the Polish government on many subjects, a law similar to that would be nice in EU (should only affect monopoly website likes youtube, google etc). Or does anyone disagree with that?
2021-01-16 17:27
3 replies
They are trying to push it into EU too.
2021-01-16 17:28
2 replies
Good. Normally EU is quite eager to protect freedom of speech (luckily), I hope they will try to make an European law out of it, since it will put a lot of pressure unto those tech companies who are already being critized heavily by both the US and EU government.
2021-01-16 17:30
1 reply
I think its good too.
2021-01-16 17:32
#51
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Yugoslavia seeeed
Free speech is when you hate and want to kill the gays because bible told you to i guess
2021-01-16 17:43
13 replies
#55
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Romania Anonym20
Bible doesn't say to kill gays.
2021-01-16 17:55
10 replies
#56
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Yugoslavia seeeed
Depending on the translation of old testament you have it either talks about stoning gays or paedophiles.
2021-01-16 17:59
7 replies
Christians use new testament to determine what's good and what's not
2021-01-16 18:13
5 replies
nah, old testament also
2021-01-16 19:29
4 replies
almost all of them follow new testament
2021-01-16 19:41
3 replies
the things said in new t are those which were said in old t but in new t there is more about morality cuz it was written after Christ and civilzations in middle east weren't as cruel as they were for example 2k years before Christ, the bible in old testament show many killing people scenes etc cuz in those times that was normal for those people and it wasn't something rare
2021-01-16 19:58
2 replies
and that's why most of the people follow new testament, killing in old testament is normalized
2021-01-16 20:06
1 reply
yup, new testament is just for "newer" and more moralised times
2021-01-16 20:15
but you know that old testament was for people living before Christ and then, people were acting like animals in most of the cultures(especially middle east), the bible was written for those people and in such type for them to understand it better so if they read about something as terrible it deserved stoning then they would think: "wow it need to be very bad then, we shouldn't do that" in bible there are shown ways of killing which were used in middle east in those times cuz it was easier for people to understand "badness" of the sins
2021-01-16 19:29
It does tho
2021-01-16 18:11
Sadly fanatics can find and interpret anything they want in bible/quran
2021-01-16 18:13
Shut up commie
2021-01-16 19:32
yes.
2021-01-17 06:13
good.
2021-01-16 18:16
3 replies
SS? schutzstaffel?
2021-01-16 18:25
2 replies
no, player from brazil
2021-01-16 18:26
1 reply
k
2021-01-16 19:26
Ez
2021-01-16 18:29
#83
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Russia Slavaa
that's good
2021-01-16 19:34
#105
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North America 007DBR9
Poland be like youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc down with capitalism
2021-01-16 20:34
9 replies
sry Poland not a commie
2021-01-16 21:47
6 replies
#145
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North America 007DBR9
if you're preventing private companies from doing what they want it is what it is
2021-01-17 01:07
5 replies
If you're getting politically oppresed or forced into a different opinion then sry but every citzen should follow the law no matter who the fuck it is.
2021-01-17 02:27
3 replies
#148
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North America 007DBR9
it is a private company
2021-01-17 02:29
2 replies
WTF cares they also have to Obey law this policy is the opposite of communism
2021-01-17 03:38
1 reply
#173
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North America 007DBR9
stopping a private company from doing something with power of the government is authoritarian and anti capitalism
2021-01-17 04:49
All private countries are regulated in a way or another. Leave your anarcho-capitalist dream world
2021-01-17 11:57
0/8
2021-01-16 22:52
1 reply
#146
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North America 007DBR9
if you're preventing private companies from doing what they want it is what it is
2021-01-17 01:08
#127
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Poland flatness
Base Pride.
2021-01-16 21:57
Whats "based" about it?
2021-01-16 21:59
2 replies
freedom of speech is always based
2021-01-16 22:51
1 reply
+1
2021-01-19 00:09
#139
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Poland kaspr02
based as always
2021-01-16 22:30
Nice virus
2021-01-16 22:35
#141
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Norway de1ka
+rep for Poland
2021-01-16 22:39
#150
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Europe Vallon4
Poland will be one of the last standing bastions against the rising leftie degeneracy. Based.
2021-01-17 02:39
That's just socialism. Companies should have the right to use whatever rules they want in their own social media.
2021-01-17 02:50
10 replies
no, htlv should be re ruled as well, and mods fired
2021-01-17 02:57
nope, because big companies like twitter could literally ban all republicans everything good about them etc and only allow negative shit about republicans, then only positive about democrats.
2021-01-17 03:34
8 replies
Twitter should not intervene in politics so do google and fb they have too much of an influence
2021-01-17 03:39
1 reply
well according to brazil here he say "Companies should have the right to use whatever rules they want in their own social media." that means what i said, this brazol says its ok
2021-01-17 06:02
Its their site yes. You can do the same with your house etc.
2021-01-17 04:09
5 replies
no because my house isn't public. twitter is a social media website for the public.
2021-01-17 06:03
4 replies
I guess his house is a public place men
2021-01-17 09:24
Its still their site, they can set whatever rules they want. Nobody is forcing people to be on there, i personally dont agree with their ways of doing things but in the end its their site.
2021-01-17 10:32
By your same logic people could essentially come inti your churches and preach about islam or spam lgbtq stuff, bet you wouldnt like that, as a matter of fact i know the majoity of poland would be mega against it.
2021-01-17 10:34
1 reply
"Churches, synagogues, mosques, and other religious organizations are generally not considered public accommodations"
2021-01-17 17:28
HLTV SHOULD PAY US MONEY FOR ALL DELETED THREAD AND UNFAIR BANS
2021-01-17 02:55
7 replies
Why? They have 0 monetary value for the creator of the thread
2021-01-17 04:08
6 replies
cuz violating our freedom of speech, that should be punished massively, who they are to tell us what is acceptable or not nobody, fuck them and their rules
2021-01-17 10:27
5 replies
Its their site dipshit, go into a mosque and preach about christianity and see how much theyll care about your freedom of speech. Its their site, they get to make the rules.
2021-01-17 10:30
4 replies
that is where mental shift needs to happen community of users IS NOT YOURS - it doesn't belong to anybody and they should demend their own rights, after all they make money out of users so don't bite the hand that give u food
2021-01-17 10:34
3 replies
Doesnt really seem to matter to hltv since this stuff isnt really new and users still stick around
2021-01-17 10:36
2 replies
well becasue its on going proccess and evolving few more years and mods will hesitate to press the ban button becasue the next day their will law suit on their desk with a huge compensation and unsatisfied boss and that's how things should work
2021-01-17 10:43
1 reply
Bruh that lawsuits not gona stick lmao youre like 15 with no idea how the law works
2021-01-19 00:05
i'll sue jonny for every ban and delete of this site,easiest profit of my life
2021-01-17 03:49
1 reply
+1
2021-01-17 10:24
Mad cause a hatred spreading fatass was banned okay dude
2021-01-17 04:23
God I hope twitter loses a lot of users and money.
2021-01-17 06:16
#180
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Singapore Am2de
That's actually a good step. +Respect for Poland
2021-01-17 09:12
The council would be able to order social networks such as Facebook,Twitter or HLTV to restore deleted content, or unblock a user's account following a review, Mr Ziobro said.
2021-01-17 09:20
they should ban facebook completely instead
2021-01-17 09:38
I are confused... I thought poland was rightist shithole, buz now they seem to be making some good new laws
2021-01-19 00:08
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