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Is NiKo the best rifler? (even if s1mple and zywoo rifled)
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Finland TuureBoelius 
NiKo often gets called the best rifler in the world. However, his main rivals for that title (s1mple, ZywOo) are both AWPers/hybrids. If s1mple/ZywOo decided to quit AWPing and became riflers, would they be better than NiKo? How good are they as riflers? Who is better with rifle, s1mple or ZywOo? /discuss
2021-01-17 12:00
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#1
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Jordan Zereeni
elige best rifler
2021-01-17 12:00
12 replies
#4
huyak | 
Ukraine 30m81e
in NA
2021-01-17 12:01
6 replies
#6
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Jordan Zereeni
no
2021-01-17 12:02
5 replies
#23
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Finland who_asked
Not even best in NA kkkk
2021-01-17 12:12
4 replies
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#38
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Finland who_asked
> 2019 Brain.exe not found
2021-01-17 12:17
lmao we are in 2021 buddy
2021-01-17 12:23
drunkass
2021-01-17 12:48
+1111
2021-01-17 12:03
3 replies
best rifler in liquid maybe
2021-01-17 12:29
2 replies
Elige and Niko are great riflers. Last year was bs, it would be interesting how they perform now cuz NA and EU are playing in one tournament.
2021-01-17 12:31
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I mean on lan 2019 and 2020 even though there was 2 elige was better
2021-01-17 14:51
#69
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New Zealand Gedtemer
Nope
2021-01-17 12:47
who knows
2021-01-17 12:01
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rize kekewe
2021-01-17 12:14
Prime cold > all right now NiKo might be the best, yes
2021-01-17 12:01
9 replies
I agree. Prime cold was something else. Nobody comes close tbh, always good for a multi kill
2021-01-17 12:09
1 reply
#65
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Turkey LantarEZ
The rivalry between cold and niko was insane
2021-01-17 12:33
#84
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Ecuador LONE_8122
i wanna see prime cold again in 2021 but wont happen (
2021-01-17 13:58
1 reply
no TACO no prime cold...
2021-01-17 18:47
-1 Prime NiKo had better aim + better first bullet accuracy than prime cold
2021-01-17 15:33
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#114
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
your mechanics arent they only thing to determine your skill to play counter strike coldzera was a better rifler because he delivered better
2021-01-17 15:52
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+1 he was clearly a better "performer" than NiKo was, especially at Majors
2021-01-17 16:05
flair checks out cry ChoKo fangay
2021-01-17 15:59
who is prime ?
2021-01-17 18:54
#5
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Belgium Skwiek
NiKo has a reaaaaally high mechanical cap with rifles, that's all I can say for sure. If you're looking at rifles only, I think you can put a (good performing) Twistzz up there as well.
2021-01-17 12:02
12 replies
Twistzz is nowhere near that good. Ropz elige Electronic are way above twistzz. He is too inconsistent, something similiar like rain. U cant count in "on a good day".
2021-01-17 12:05
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#13
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Belgium Skwiek
If you're talking about pure mechanicly, I have to disagree :) if you're talking about performance, sure
2021-01-17 12:06
9 replies
Yea ur right . But its too bad that we can see that in 1 out of 10 games.
2021-01-17 12:11
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#81
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Belgium Skwiek
+1 shows that aim isnt the only thing in the game, f.e. if you compare that to blameF, who imo doesn't have the best raw aim, who gets that kind of perfomance consistantly...
2021-01-17 13:35
this kid had a good half in 2019 and since then he has been a bot even against garbage NA competition. stop overrating it finally holy shit. same shit with rain. had one good year followed by many shit years and still he is rated really high.
2021-01-17 13:56
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#85
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Belgium Skwiek
mechanicly he's still pretty crisp but that doesn't make you a good pro player and i didn't claim him to be a good performer either :)
2021-01-17 14:49
5 replies
he is not so crisp as you think. you are delusional. he still isn't hitting what he should.
2021-01-17 14:59
4 replies
You convinced me! The opinion of a random HLTV member >>> almost every csgo analyst
2021-01-17 15:49
3 replies
suggestion: get rid of your bias and watch some demos of his latest games. he isn't as good as you think "aiming-wise"
2021-01-17 15:50
2 replies
You're right! I think 99% of csgo analysts should also get rid of their bias, thinking Twistzz still has potential!! For real now, youre still talking about performance, not mechanical skill learn the differnce :)
2021-01-17 18:41
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and people drop off in skill and perform worse :) sometimes it's just a fluke.
2021-01-17 18:47
ropz is the only player among those mentioned who is as close in mechanical skills to NiKo as it can get
2021-01-17 15:34
I don't watch every match of his. But I see him whiffing his sprays in important moments more than others. His whif on xyp *in blast on inferno a recent one
2021-01-17 12:06
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choke
2021-01-17 12:05
#128
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Israel GrandpaZ
Thats the price of being a one tap god + extremely low sens. It makes spraying way harder than higher sens. All relative of course, he is still a god. This is btw an example where riflers like elige or electronic are shitting on niko.
2021-01-17 20:06
IMO niko probably has the better mechanics but zywoo has the better decisionmaking IMO so its probably situational but its a bit hard to argue about that kind of stuff
2021-01-17 12:04
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+1 finally someone with a brain in this thread
2021-01-17 18:48
Xantares 16-3 s1mple in rifling 1v1 S1mple without baiting and AWP abusing is just another avg pro
2021-01-17 12:04
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Ok, lets see xantares in 1v1 with awp and deagle vs s1mple.
2021-01-17 12:07
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Thread is about rifling Anyway, s1mple would rekt xantares on AWP. Xantares would rekt s1mple in deagle easily.
2021-01-17 12:11
3 replies
hahaha ur a joke.
2021-01-17 20:13
2 replies
Your life is a joke. Worst choko fan on this site. Ch0k0 fan OMEGALUL
2021-01-18 08:04
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says a guy who has 10 alts and checks hltv every 2 mins
2021-01-18 19:06
yep cus 1v1s translate to ingame man i get fucked in those 1v1 warmups they added but i fuck them 40 kills during the game lol
2021-01-17 12:09
19 replies
MM doesnt equate to pro games
2021-01-17 12:10
1 reply
xantares 16-3 but nowhere near s1mples level? if csgo was aim game, tenz would be hltv top 1
2021-01-17 12:12
cuz 1vs1 is 50% aim 50% luck and ingame is 80% brain and 20% aim
2021-01-17 12:13
16 replies
yea, fkin fortnite is more aim than csgo lol
2021-01-17 12:14
15 replies
idk if i can agree on that part, since i dont play low trash like this. But since the building part is a huge skillgap in fortnite, its also not that much about aim too. in csgo i counted everythink as "brain" like movement, economy, timing, utility usage, decision making,.... and in fortnite building would be much higher than aim too. cuz if u can outbuild someone, u get advantage and dont need aim at all.
2021-01-17 12:18
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friend of mine is semi pro in fortnite, he has the craziest fucking aim. he practices that shit religiously in kovaaks. He would dogfart me in every aim situation. trust me it needs crazy aim
2021-01-17 12:21
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there isnt even a spray pattern in fortnite as far as i remember, cant agree on that - but i respect ur opinion men)))
2021-01-17 12:24
1 reply
thnx
2021-01-17 12:25
#134
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Ecuador LONE_8122
how is he at csgo?
2021-01-17 23:43
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global elite crazy aim, craziest on pistol rounds, especially with usp but not so good gamesense wise you know, and positioning. ok preaim his flicks rarely require a micro adjusment, its ridicolus to look at
2021-01-18 08:13
That's the most wierd take. CSGO takes so much skill like crosshair positioning, preaiming angles rather than just randomly aiming anywhere.
2021-01-17 12:19
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yea, hence csgo is not that much aim as you might think
2021-01-17 12:20
4 replies
Aim is not just about flick aim bro
2021-01-17 12:22
3 replies
yea, its mostly about tracking in fortnite though?
2021-01-17 12:24
2 replies
I never played fortnite and I don't care what aim there means.
2021-01-17 12:28
1 reply
ok why are you speaking then?
2021-01-17 12:30
#55
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United Kingdom novaseer
I'd actually argue crosshair placement and pre-aiming go under gamesense and map knowledge.
2021-01-17 12:26
2 replies
Not gamesense but map knowledge yeah
2021-01-17 12:30
1 reply
#82
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United Kingdom novaseer
It kind of comes under gamesense, as if you know a player isn't going to be somewhere you can not check/pre-aim that angle and save time. Especially important in clutches.
2021-01-17 13:54
are you that dumb or just baiting? :/
2021-01-17 12:11
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Why triggered m8? So you think 16-3 is just a normal loss. Xantares in pure rifling much better than s1mple. Learn to accept facts
2021-01-17 12:13
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"S1mple without baiting and AWP abusing is just another avg pro" this is literally most Pepega sentence i've ever seen
2021-01-17 12:15
5 replies
Ok you are a fan of s1mple, it must have hurt you a bit.
2021-01-17 12:16
4 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/weapon/7998/s1mpl.. s1mple rifling stats while guardian was AWPing imagine rating players rifling level just bcs of one 1v1 ... avg reddit user moment
2021-01-17 12:19
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I didn't see stats anywhere but he also plays star roles where he baits. Like he has kills with sg and ak, what else. And I said without baiting and rifling, he would be average rifler.
2021-01-17 12:21
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last sentence makes me think that whole your comment was 0/8
2021-01-17 12:22
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Read #10 again. I was assuring you my initial comment was no baiting and rifling. What do you think his rating would be if he didn't baited, didn't get hero AK, rifled and played some support or entry role. Don't be ignorant like it's s1mple whatever he does he would have 1.30 rating and bla bla. And stop putting my comments as b8 if you can't have a logical discussion :)
2021-01-17 12:26
NiKo lost to woxic in a 1v1 duel as well.
2021-01-17 12:16
4 replies
#40
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
he wasnt serious
2021-01-17 12:17
1 reply
Weren't they like playing for money ?
2021-01-17 12:58
But not humilated like 16-3. Anyway, Niko also plays so many star positions on map, no wonder he get easy frags and rating
2021-01-17 12:17
so did s1mple though
2021-01-17 15:48
s1mple and zywoo rating would be nowhere near them right now without awp
2021-01-17 12:07
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Tbf s1mple was top 2 in 2019 while rifling behind zywoo so that's still pretty insane.
2021-01-17 12:17
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Zywoo rifled a lot this year with Shox and Nivera taking over awp'ing. I don't think you get to the stats they get to if you're just good at awp.
2021-01-17 12:26
+1111 With rifling and not baiting, there rating would take a hit
2021-01-17 12:39
Zywoo also has the best pistol round rating for 2020, btw
2021-01-17 12:49
#26
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
Niko still top, but s0mple and zywoo close ofc
2021-01-17 12:13
yes Niko is fine top 1 with cold
2021-01-17 12:14
The reason why NiKo is called the best rifler is his mechanical precision and first bullet accurussy. However it doesn't take one to realise that NiKo has a pretty bad spray control for a pro player and once he engages in a spray battle he often loses it. But being top 4 in 3 out of his last 4 years using mostly rifles is pretty insane.
2021-01-17 12:14
4 replies
+111
2021-01-17 15:37
1 reply
Learn to read.
2021-01-17 20:54
#132
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Israel GrandpaZ
That's fairly accurate....he is insane mechanically because of his flashy one taps and insane accuracy+ he has the best crosshair placement by far (besides ropz). He is on a league of his own in that regard. Nevertheless, i would rather have a rifler like elige or k0nfig in my team on any given day if i had to choose... Part of his shit spray btw is due to his very low sens...dont know if you played this low before, but it makes spraying 10 times hardert than higher sens , and it becomes exponentially more difficult the further you are from the enemy.
2021-01-17 20:18
#30
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
yes
2021-01-17 12:14
1 niko 2 prime coldzera 3 equal riflers in teams
2021-01-17 12:15
#39
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Brazil angryyyy
1. Fallen 2. Trk 3. Fer
2021-01-17 12:17
#46
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
You cant compare XANTARES to NiKo because NiKo's aim is smooth xantarese's is flashy fast aim
2021-01-17 12:20
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How is NiKo's aim smooth? NiKo is all about crosshair placement. While Xantares has everything: sprays, taps, burst, spray transfers, crosshair placement, movement aswell. But xantares has bad gamesense. If he had gamesense like ZywOo. He would fucking 1 tap all the AWPer. He is insane.
2021-01-17 15:43
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#103
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
watch Haixes video
2021-01-17 15:45
#110
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
he is onliner look at his stats i will link you 2 videos in 15mins
2021-01-17 15:48
#57
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Bulgaria alekscho89
Elige the best rifler
2021-01-17 12:26
Zywoo wanted to rifle but he was forced to play Primary AWP
2021-01-17 12:33
#66
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Portugal lovessd
magisk best
2021-01-17 12:34
1 reply
lol
2021-01-17 13:10
Ez s1mple >>>>>> zywoo or whoever
2021-01-17 12:48
s1mple is much better rifler (he proved it in 2019 when s1mple took top2 as a rifler), he just took the AWP role cuz he is the best with it too Rifle: S1MPLE > Zywoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> niko
2021-01-17 13:00
3 replies
Exactly 8/8
2021-01-17 13:03
ZywOo > s1mple rifle s1mple > ZywOo AWP
2021-01-17 15:40
that was like the final quarter of 2019 and if anything, his period in with the rifle could've been what cost him the 1st place statwise. NiKo, on the other hand, has been going toe-to-toe with best star AWPers from the best teams in the world for 3-4 years now purely through his rifling and mechanical prowess
2021-01-17 15:47
s1mple was a better rifler than NiKo when they were both riflers and both s1mple and ZywOo are (atm) better than him at rifling as well, true star players always play the AWP too (Coldzera on Inferno, Device eventually, NAF every now and then, NiKo on Dust2) so it's hard to draw comparisons
2021-01-17 13:00
S1mple better rfiler by far .. And also elec and ropz are monsters with rifle
2021-01-17 13:04
1.35 sens bot KEKW /s
2021-01-17 13:05
3 replies
WHAT SENS??? LOLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLO
2021-01-17 15:37
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1.35 SENS OMEGALUL WHAT A BOT
2021-01-17 20:09
device and elige are better than Ch0K0
2021-01-17 13:10
newfags really don't know how insane s1mple is with a rifle
2021-01-17 14:53
#88
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Brazil Nicolito
In terms of rifle, prime coldzera was a god. Not even s1mple, zywOo or NiKo at their best was as good as coldzera.
2021-01-17 14:56
1 reply
hahaha lmfao
2021-01-17 15:00
Niko and good rifler?? name me a more joke duo.
2021-01-17 15:00
1 reply
NiKo and gun round kills
2021-01-17 15:00
elige is better than him
2021-01-17 15:31
As of now NiKo riffle > s1mple and zywoo riffle but if they did it full time it would be way more competetive
2021-01-17 15:37
2 replies
What if we consider their primes? coz imo NiKo's aim and first bullet accuracy have recently taken a hit by the end of the season (atleast from what I could make out from NiKo's pug streams)
2021-01-17 15:51
1 reply
I'd still say niko but s1mple and electronic would be very close. not sure about zywoo since he played awp mostly in tier 1.
2021-01-17 16:01
Electronic is better rifler.
2021-01-17 15:39
5 replies
2021-01-17 15:43
4 replies
bruh?
2021-01-17 15:45
3 replies
idk, just saw this
2021-01-17 15:47
2 replies
I do not see it wtf
2021-01-17 15:47
1 reply
lol wtf
2021-01-17 15:48
Dupreeh and electronic challenge him for that i would say... and i'm a g2 fan
2021-01-17 16:03
1 reply
dupreeh lol what
2021-01-17 18:42
AdreN is the best one.
2021-01-17 16:07
#129
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Europe Theivze
Ropz is a great rifler
2021-01-17 20:06
Ofc NiKo bestest rifler
2021-01-18 19:25
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