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Turkey SplattXy 
s1mple top1 odds is 3.20 and zywoo 1.20 s1mple is above zywoo on Stats and he is only below zywoo on online matches , but s1mple won katowice and s1mple was godlike on Lan , Lan > online , why not s1mple top 1? why odds are like this?
2021-01-18 14:16
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Norway Ragnar__
Zywoo = tier 2 player after he will lose weight
2021-01-18 14:18
14 replies
+1
2021-01-18 14:28
+1 just like coldzera
2021-01-18 14:56
11 replies
bro its real thing , if u know muscle memory , if u working out and loseing weight u gonna forget your muscle memory
2021-01-18 14:59
9 replies
8/8
2021-01-18 16:41
#63
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Serbia e_loK
True only if you stop playing while losing weight If you play constantly that wont happen Also idc if it works like that for esports like it does for sports
2021-01-18 17:01
muscle memory doesnt work like that and then explain a player like niko then?
2021-01-18 17:03
5 replies
zywoo was significantly fatter than niko was. Flamie shit now that he's more slim Rain shit now that he's fat
2021-01-18 17:21
3 replies
same applies to those players then if we go by your logic. Zywoo is significantly more fat than flamie and rain were. its a mentality shift and not because of body mass. They practice and have less passion than before and lose muscle memory because of that.
2021-01-18 17:28
2 replies
yes, which means that zywoos skill will drop way more than it did for flamie and rain
2021-01-18 18:03
1 reply
I dont think he will be less skilled or good at csgo because of him losing weight... If zywoo for whatever reason loses his passion for the game and doesnt practice then yes he will be worse.
2021-01-18 18:27
muscle memory = fat memory?
2021-01-18 20:30
he isn't depending on muscle memory, he has insane gamesense. Just look at Xyp and flusha, even when their aim is garbage they still get the frags and clutches because they always shoot ppl in the back.
2021-01-18 20:24
and Flamie xD
2021-01-18 20:28
bro wtf ? XDDDDDDDD genius
2021-01-18 17:08
#2
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Armenia breasts
s1mple is top 1 don't let some fakeltv news website tell you otherwise men))))
2021-01-18 14:19
4 replies
#4
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Namibia Nt_NoScene
+11111
2021-01-18 14:20
yeah 3.2 odds seems good to me
2021-01-18 14:21
S1mple 2MVPS ZywOo 6 MVPS nt
2021-01-18 17:40
+1 #stopthecount
2021-01-18 18:07
Because s2mple<Z1woo
2021-01-18 14:19
3 replies
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Namibia Nt_NoScene
Sweet Dreams
2021-01-18 14:21
1 reply
3:2 noobvi HaHaHa
2021-01-18 18:29
why u think s2<z1? howwwww tell me the fact
2021-01-18 14:22
because zywoo is better than s0mple
2021-01-18 14:30
5 replies
+1
2021-01-18 14:32
+1
2021-01-18 14:52
+1
2021-01-18 16:38
0/8
2021-01-18 16:54
#129
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Russia Kir1323
+1
2021-01-19 04:31
#10
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France Vipair
should be more around 1.9/2.1
2021-01-18 14:31
2 replies
yeah 3.2 and 1.2 means zy1 is already 1
2021-01-18 15:00
1 reply
money talks. Its not wrong in cases like this.
2021-01-18 17:07
#12
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Korea ramza72
+11111111111111111
2021-01-18 14:32
x18 dev1ceg0d no1. :d
2021-01-18 14:33
0/8
2021-01-18 14:37
zywoo entries, zywoo drops m4 and plays mp9, zywoo drops awp to nivera and plays mp9, zywoo plays solo b, zywoo does not bait his teammates (most of therounds) , zywoo does not have an ego that tells him to stay in the clutch position every round, s1mple goes 4th or 5th on the push, s1mple gets dropped weapons while others suffer, s1mple baits his teammates, s1mple has a huge ego because of his inflated stats ( i remember like a month ago one game where s1mple got mad at perfecto on nuke and started shooting him), s1mple is always the last man standing Hope this answers, im not zywoo fan nor s1mple, i just watched a lot of games this year and its what i saw and thats what most of the community sees
2021-01-18 14:40
55 replies
Regardless of the truth in your message, almost none of those things are relevant for HLTV Rankings xD!
2021-01-18 14:44
31 replies
Yes but he asked why are the odds like that, people place bets and most of the community understands that zywoo is geniunely better. Its the same reason why blameF is 6th, blameF had much better stats than electronic and niko but he is behind them. Even hltv gets something right from time to time. THat will be the case again zywoo is number 1
2021-01-18 14:47
2 replies
Well, Electronic definitely deserved to be above BlameF. About ZywOo vs s1mple, it's not so clear. Regardless, I respect your opinion :) Have a nice day :)
2021-01-18 14:52
1 reply
Thats what I'm saying, both niko and electronic and even ropz deserved to be above blameF. His rating is so high because of his lurk/bait playstyle. He is basically an improved version of Happy. He is a very good player but he sends his 4 teammates to site while he stays back and thats ok but to do it every round is a little bit too much.
2021-01-18 16:32
exactly, HLTV doesn't consider playstyle :D most people do consider it but it'd be harder to do a ranking this way. (it's already hard enough).
2021-01-18 16:48
24 replies
Haha yeah. Did you have a look at the twitter-drama today? What do you think? EDIT: Omfg!!!! I just noticed, all those threads were deleted 0_0. In the one where I was discussing stuff, there was a long-drawn conversation with MIRAA. Even then that thread was deleted. Perhaps, it was indeed a goof-up and not a bait? Damn.....
2021-01-18 16:52
19 replies
I don't really know xD Maybe it means something, maybe it doesn't. The coach said now that it wasn't about the ranking but who knows. They're either having fun baiting or it's unrelated somehow. Or they're trying to cover it. Let's wait and see haha. We can't draw much from it
2021-01-18 16:53
18 replies
I don't think (personally) that they are childish enough to leak info on twitter. On the other hand, if they were deliberately baiting/trolling, it's extremely unprofessional and disrespectful to s1mple (it would look like they were mocking him). When threads were made, Miraa (that mod who posted reply on twitter) himself came to clarify stuff and typed 3-4 messages. Even then that thread was deleted, Miraa's tweet was deleted, the coach reverted back his statements. Either it's the biggest bait I've ever seen, or a really dumb leak (unlikely).
2021-01-18 16:58
17 replies
What did Miraa say ? I didn't quite catch that. But I have my theory on the matter XD I think considering apEX's tweet, it may be related to their game coming up against Complexity. I was wondering if they would play train which apEX dislikes a lot, it's their perma ban. I thought that maybe they will play it but I'm not sure. It's unlikely but if I'm right it would be a godlike guess hahaha :D
2021-01-18 17:33
16 replies
After their coach had posted his tweet, Miraa replied something like "well, such is life". apEX and ZywOo replied to that with worrying/shocking/crying emojis... Lol, what a theory :D
2021-01-18 17:40
15 replies
Wow he really posted that ? What a blunder. Miraa already knowns the ranking ? Then if the coach wasn't referring to it and Miraa thought he was and posted this comment then does that mean he leaked it on his own ? xDDD leakception hahaha
2021-01-18 17:44
9 replies
Lol :D The thing is, many people made threads using his tweet. He immediately deleted his tweets, and replied on HLTV forums that he deleted it to prevent any misunderstandings. When I asked him what he was talking about and what did he mean by his tweet, he obviously didn't reply :D After a while, all such threads got deleted
2021-01-18 17:47
8 replies
suspicious. Maybe he really didn't mean that or maybe he feared to have leaked it and tried to undo it all which I could understand. What I don't understand is that, he wouldn't consider all of this could happen if he were to post something to the coach of Vitality a day before the final answer for the top 20. Miraa is usually great but maybe he did it without thinking ? Who knows. In any case, if it truly wasn't related then we'll get the answer later. He didn't explain what his tweet was about which is strange, if it isn't related then what's the harm of talking about it?
2021-01-18 17:56
I think this tweet from the coach of Vitality was about Cloud9, look at the number of clowns there, It's a joke but he really didn't speak about the top 20 but about Woxic ! twitter.com/XTQZZZ/status/13510955899336.. As to whether Miraa saw through it and talked about the same thing is unkown. I think with this XQTZZZ might be the best baiter we've seen and he's not even an HLTV user, what an achievement ! xD The 9 clowns was well thought out though hahaha. "Such is life" from Miraa would make sense in a context where Woxic is mentioned though.
2021-01-18 20:10
6 replies
Nice! Seems reasonable. Well done :)
2021-01-18 20:13
5 replies
I kinda thought about it and someone else too so I think it's an accurate guess.
2021-01-18 20:14
hltv.org/forums/threads/2405268/xtqzzz-t.. This thread confirmed it tbh.
2021-01-18 20:15
3 replies
Hmmm... So far, my Top3-Top9 prediction has been 100% on spot. The last 2, though :D
2021-01-18 20:20
2 replies
I have failed mine since I didn't see Electronic being that high since Stats the previous years were more valued, and his MVP wasn't enough in my mind. XD This is really tough to judge, especially this year. Unexpectedly, I was wrong last year too only because of s1mple and dev1ce haha I was sad tbh, almost made a perfect prediction in 2019.
2021-01-18 20:25
1 reply
The funny thing is, it's possible that the Top1/Top2 is released while Navi's match is ongoing (if a 3-mapper). I doubt if s1mple would be able to focus....
2021-01-18 20:27
Fakeglagger detected
2021-01-19 04:28
4 replies
You don't know how to use google translate? :D
2021-01-19 05:40
3 replies
I know. But, I detect fakeflagger based on the time person is active on HLTV. You replies show that you were awake whole night in NZ. I also have detected two other fakeflaggers. S1mple_CSGOD and dyinbyran
2021-01-19 06:13
2 replies
Well, I am a final year Varsity CS student. Let's just say I have a shit sleep schedule. I don't know if you can relate with that :D Also, I obviously can't prove it to you. However, you're free to assume whatever you wish to. Have a nice day :)
2021-01-19 06:50
1 reply
Hey, Didn't mean to offend to you :) After all , Its my Job here xD.
2021-01-19 07:27
YEs I think thats a big mistake. I would reward all those hard working players that are suffering because they are doing whats best for the team and what HAS TO BE DONE. Yes, Im talking about flamie, perfecto, boombl4. Those individuals dont get the credit they deserve because of one 90iq guy who thinks he can clutch every round. And then he ends up getting 3 kills and dies. He finishes the game with 30 bomb but he lost 16 4. Thats just pathetic
2021-01-18 16:58
3 replies
I share a similar vision on CS but most of the people, especially casuals don't understand the work of teammates who sacrifice themselves.
2021-01-18 17:34
2 replies
You know what I hate the most about s1mple? The way he affected all those young players. Today, you start the game on faceit, there is surely gonna be one guy in ur team who is using that s1mple playstyle baiting and saving and then being toxic to the rest because you dont have as much kills. Just the other day, i started a match and queued with some russian kid like 15 16 years old judging by his voice, we were down 0 4 he had like 7 or 8 kills ( 0 impact btw, all exit clutch attempts) while the rest of us had like 2 3, he started being toxic and saying go lose fast. Then we switch to t side and guess what hes baiting he doesnt want to go first or second he thinks he is the best in the game. Then I opened his steam profile and I see in the description <3 s1mple. In that moment I realized its time to quit. (I've been playing since 2013 and faceit since 2014 and it was much different back then let me tell u)
2021-01-18 18:21
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Yes. I'm a good player but I often have bad KD in that sort of games while when I play with friends or teammates who play as a team I'm dropping 1.3 + rating, because I'm getting baited, so in order to win rounds I have to open up all the bombsites, fight for all neutral zones at the same time, use utility etc. I'm forced to play supportive and taking all the space on top of calling rotations in a pug because never takes space and have the W key broken on their keyboards. I do agree from playing faceit that he has a bad influence on people's playstyles. s1mple might bait but he's one of the best individuals in the world and is in Na'Vi hence you shouldn't copy him, Jame time is considered within a pro team, NOT A PUG. In a pug, you should play everything to become more complete. Lurking, entrying, supporting, awping, rifling, postive baiting where you bait or get baited by your mate in a specific CT setup like on inferno (one short, one long where you peek and then hide and repeek etc). But seeing players on the T side not even taking neutral zones in the first 10 secs of a round and never taking risks only to play when everyone is already dead is painful. Especially on maps like inferno or mirage where not taking neutral zones means you lost the rounds because CTs are aware of where you are at all times.
2021-01-18 19:16
At the end of the day, just ask yourself, who'd you like more in your team zywoo or s1mple? I choose zywoo every single time.
2021-01-18 16:53
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Well, at the moment, I would pick ZywOo in his current form, over s1mple in his current form. If I had to pick between ZywOo in his current form, and s1mple in his 2018 form, I would take s1mple. EDIT: I understand that people's memories fade with time (or they never knew), and they think that the way a player is right now, is what they were all the time. That's why we see so many comments/threads mocking device's mechanics, Olof/GTR's skills, Rain's skills, s1mple's skills, etc. 90% of these people probably never saw those players in their prime. Well, I have seen what prime s1mple can do, and I would take that over anyone else. At the moment, I would choose ZywOo. PS: Of course, I respect your opinion. Have a nice day :)
2021-01-18 17:10
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Sure, I respect your opinion. We only have these HLTV stats to compare players in a quantitative way. I watch CS on and off since 2011 so I know about s1mple's 2018 performance. Although, hltv stats paint a good picture about one's performance I believe it's missing out on a lot. I think zywoo just brings more to the team than s1mple ever did. A hint regarding each player's individual contribution is the FPL winrate where you're on your own basically. Not saying this this means everything but I would take it as a hint.
2021-01-18 17:23
+1 intellgent man, and friend from africa
2021-01-18 14:53
2021-01-18 15:01
#33
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Ukraine McSwell
If zywoo "plays entries" - why does he have so good stats in clutches?
2021-01-18 15:03
19 replies
I am glad you brought it up. The answer is simple, because zywoo is a much better player. If you compare how many times s1mple baited his teammates to stay the last one alive and how many times he actually clutched/won that round you will find a rather dissapointing number. Basically, every 7th/8th round that he baited he won.
2021-01-18 16:36
14 replies
#48
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Ukraine McSwell
Basically attempting more clutches means staying last alive more often. Basically having better DPR percentage means staying alive more often. Basically having better KAST includes surviving, which means staying alive more often. And "making entries" means opposite to all 3 statements. Because you have to be killed by a defender more often. In case if you're a superman and making opening klls, entry frags and clutch frags every round - you must have very good k/d and "multiply kills" stats. But we both know zywoo doesn't.
2021-01-18 16:49
13 replies
Basically you explained why his stats are so high. His team is suffering so his stats can stay on top of the HLTV. They are pathetic becuase they are afraid to stand up to him.
2021-01-18 16:53
5 replies
#56
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Russia ToughGuy
Well at least now i know u just baiting
2021-01-18 16:58
4 replies
I like how 90% of s1mples fanbase comes from russia and ukraine. YOu guys are the only ones who think he is not a baiter
2021-01-18 17:00
3 replies
#69
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Russia ToughGuy
What a great logic mate u just discovered that 90% of s1mple fanbase are from his home country gratz maybe u have some iq after all, and yes not getting baited by your fanboy speech which is completely untrue for smart users like me and where did i say that s1mple isnt baiter.
2021-01-18 17:07
2 replies
Yeah the statistical possibility of you being a smart guy is very low because russia's average iq is around 90 if I remember correctly. So nice try
2021-01-18 17:31
1 reply
#85
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Russia ToughGuy
Damn this is really low compared to the rest of the wolrd
2021-01-18 17:40
this isn't how it works. He isn't setup to clutches like s1mple, he was in 2019 but not this year. And to explain it it's quite easy. You have another great clutcher on the team called Shox. BlameF is ranked #1 with 86 clutching (but more attempt rate), ZywOo is ranked #2 with 84 clutches (lower attempt % so it means he's in less clutch situations but is more succesful) and ranked #3 is Shox. And yes, you're not seeing it wrong, he's a top 1 opening fragger on the T side against top 10, entries on the T side and is the second best clutcher of the year. Nobody said he's a dedicated entry, he's isn't because he's often alone on the map, selfless, he can support, go in first, lurk, rifles a lot etc, he's very complete, more so than any other player right now. Multikills is rated by Impact rating and he has the highest impact rating (1.38) of all players with only 1.32 KD against s1mple's 1.43 KD with 1.33 impact rating. Funny you bring up KD while it's the old rating system from 4 years ago. KD is literally rating 1.0. We're talking about rating 2.0 here. So it means his kills are really impactful towards round wins. Impact rating doesn't consider eco frags though which it's still a flaw but ZywOo wouldn't impacted from it compared to other players we know ^^.
2021-01-18 17:00
6 replies
#72
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Russia ToughGuy
Saying that zywoo isnt setup for clutches dude I know u like zywoo but this is just delusional and clutches related to impact which is why he has more impact since he has more clutches and if only filtering elite events s1mple leading by impact, clutches with perfecto so he isnt alone like u think and yes it means zywoo farmed a lot clutches in events like showdown against weak opponents where he has huge rating and this is one of the reasons why he's leading in overall rating by adr/impact/kast/clutches but since hltv only including mvp worth events this stats will change towards s1mple and for example blamef top20 article shows only 77 clutches while overall he has 86.. hope this helps
2021-01-18 17:18
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This isn't accurate. You're certainly right for elite events I'm prett sure but EU RMRs had similar and really strong opposition and most of his stats come from them I believe, rightfully so because Vitality's roaster was nearing its end in the first few months of the year. And no, I wouldn't say he's being setup for clutches because we have an equally good clutcher in the team called Shox. Out of the 3 top clutchers, you have two from the same team. So you could say that they setup both Shox and ZywOo for clutches but you can't just say one over the other, it's wrong. Considering roles though you should even argue that Shox is being setup more because he is often lurking on the T side (he's really smart and has good gamesense), stats show this as he has higher attempt % rate but lower amounts of clutches, ZywOo has lower attempt % but higher amount of flat clutches (it literally shows he has more clutches while being in less clutch situations). s1mple didn't make the top 5 of clutchers because he is pretty much always in clutch situations but his clutch success rate% is quite lower than the top 3. Na'Vi setting up s1mple can't even be compared to a shred of setup you'd see in teams like Vitality etc. Also don't believe that it takes anything away from s1mple, he's a great clutcher too obviously, different systems = different outcomes. I'm telling this to you because watching demos or games you'd clearly see it's not really accurate. I mean I'm a mad lad. I've watched every game from teams of the top 3 this year. So I watched all games from Na'Vi (my flair can tell you why), all games from Vitality and from Astralis (where Xyp has a supportive role and is setup for clutches, difference in Na'Vi is that s1mple is the star awper and doesn't support or takes space which Xyp9x does being part of the gla1ve system).
2021-01-18 17:29
#86
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Ukraine McSwell
I can say the same - s1mple isn't setup to entries and open kills, especially on t-side, because NaVi has a great opener Electronic and even Boombl4 who is making more open kills than any player in Vitality except zywoo. But somehow in haters eyes it's called "baiting" for s1mple. And "multikills" can influence on impact, but is still a seperate item in stats - and everyone can see s1mple is much ahead in all type of multikills except aces, which numbers are too small to be relevant. In conclusion, I am pretty sure zywoo IS set up: 1) on open kills when the round start like no other player in Vita 2) on stayng last alive for decisive moments of round, going last on plant or retake etc. All the dirty work is done by RpK, shox and other team.
2021-01-18 17:42
3 replies
Wait what ? But s1mple is being setup though, more so on the T side then the CT side. I don't really agree with your statement, you can dislike the playstyle of being heavely setup by your team but there's nothing wrong with that, there's no need to be defensive about it. I don't personally like it because I've always played CS as a teamgame where we give the 5 players equal chances to shine, even if you have to do the dirty work sometimes, but Na'Vi is a pro, there is some logic to their system though it's not a vision of CS I share. What you're referring of being setup is usual teamplay we see in any team (flashing etc). When I say s1mple is being setup is different. I meant that on T side, he doesn't take any risks, doesn't take space, gets the prenium equipment etc, trades his teammates who created that space and clutches (often with Electronic who entries weirdly enough). Pros and semi-pros talked that there is no other tier 1 team who setup their star-players to shine more than Na'Vi, I mean the two of them are ranked in the top 5 HLTV for a reason you know.
2021-01-18 17:50
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#98
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Ukraine McSwell
So what is the point - setting up by flashes to check one-way position is a nice teamplay and great impact, and setting up 2 aim stars on trades is baiting? It's just 2 different playstyles. Zywoo makes safe open attempts on t- and ct-side and then steps aside or hold safe positions - because his teammates are capable of doing a dirty work / holding defensive position by their own, zywoo casuality doesn't mean 90% round is lost, when it does in NaVi case when s1mple and elec dies. S1mple, on the other hand, playes passive on t-sides in favour of electronic, and often covers wide space with awp on ct-sides. When awp-ing, both enters plans or retakes not first.
2021-01-18 18:02
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Well in terms of stats I have to disagree. ZywOo's performance is tied to Vitality's performance. It was always the case and still is, it's just that Vitality isn't star-centered anymore so he doesn't have half as much support that he did in 2019: ggrecon.com/articles/zywoo-vs-s1mple-who.. Well you've got your opinion but I believe you're wrong. It's ok though I respect that.
2021-01-18 19:19
#40
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North America Beecs
Zywoo isnt an entry fragger but he entries into bombsites more than s1mple, youd have to be blind not to see that
2021-01-18 16:38
3 replies
Yhea I mean people lack understanding of roles/positions and player playstyles. You can be a lurker and entry, awper and entry, support and entry^^, he's not a dedicated entry like Dupreeh but he certainly entries a lot but does lots of other things on the map, he's a complete player, and his teammates do entry too. There's no really dedicated entry in Vitality, maybe misutaaa has that profile more but not really. apEX hasn't been an entry since 2016-2017, he's a X factor like art which is completely different in a ton of aspects compared to an entry.
2021-01-18 17:04
2 replies
#89
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Ukraine McSwell
No team has an entry awp-er because of low mobility and expensiveness, unless they are throwing, all enemies positions are already checked or opposite team is extremely weak.
2021-01-18 17:44
1 reply
ART is not a dedicated entry but he does entry with the AWP, yes, as weird as it may sound. It seemed to be a viable strategy in NA. I don't really like it myself but eh works for them. Dedicated entries though are all riflers.
2021-01-18 17:52
In 2019 s1mple was also doing the same shit as zywoo, he was even primary awper when guardian came, and didn't play the best fragging positions hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. and still had similar stats as zywoo, so it doesn't mean shit, and image not giving an AK to s1mple or zywoo when you want to win a round, and they also do this to electronic, beside them who would you give it to, and vitality almost every player are good impact wise while in navi there are literally 2 bots, perfecto is good men, so stop bringing this stupid points and for s1mple going last always, he always has the bomb, and throwing flashes, just watch his one demo, stop bringing this stupid points cause both are good, s1mple has the best year any pro has in 2018 without doing wht you said right now, at tht time zeus was idiot and play with ak himself and dropped s1mple deagle only, many casters complained about this, and now when they do it right suddenly its s1mple who is wrong, zywoo was set the whole 2019 as said by alex, even nbk, apex in interview now in 2020 he is not set on inferno only and suddenly he is such a beauty lol, vitality plays aggressive style so they all entry together while navi play the most passive cs and pop in the last 20 seconds only, learn roles idiot, i will say zywoo is the best T player and s1mple is the best CT player, s1mple isn't tht aggressive while zywoo playstyle is
2021-01-19 07:51
he is just alot of frags that are not helping the team preview.redd.it/dv3ttrdiovb61.jpg?width=..
2021-01-18 14:48
3 replies
and ?
2021-01-18 16:40
1 reply
#130
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Russia Kir1323
graph shows that zywoo has more impact than s0mple
2021-01-19 04:33
#55
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Russia ToughGuy
S1mple playing fpl since 2014 how this stats even relevant
2021-01-18 16:57
what website?
2021-01-18 14:54
7 replies
for bet?
2021-01-18 15:01
6 replies
yeah, the odds, where are they?
2021-01-18 15:02
5 replies
all sites have them bro , ggbet or 1x , betway , u need to find it
2021-01-18 15:03
4 replies
I'm trying to prove to a friend that these are the odds, can you send the link or something? Can't find them for the player rankings on the websites, i can only find odds on matches
2021-01-18 15:05
3 replies
try csgopositve
2021-01-18 16:18
2 replies
ohh yeah, thank you bro
2021-01-18 16:42
1 reply
np bro
2021-01-18 17:44
#26
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Estonia kikilips
As I work in betting company I can say that odds hardly if ever display the “actual” outcome/advantage . Odds are compiled regarding the market of attracting maximum possible users to lay their bets. These odds are always built in favour of compiler.
2021-01-18 14:59
6 replies
i know bro , but how people are that sure for z1 , if its 1.2 it means its OVER z1 won
2021-01-18 15:02
5 replies
#37
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Estonia kikilips
People do their research and take everything into count but even in these cases it cannot be guaranteed outcome. People are dumb and specially when it comes to betting as mostly it is done based on believing in the outcome by user itself plus emotional factor, rather than basing the actual favorable outcome result from doing some research and adding numbers and stats up.
2021-01-18 16:25
#43
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Lots of ignorant people who haven't even watched the matches.
2021-01-18 16:40
3 replies
#47
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Estonia kikilips
Exactly :P
2021-01-18 16:43
So you're saying it would be dumb to bet on ZywOo ? That's a dumb statement too.
2021-01-18 17:04
1 reply
#90
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Finland HARD4ENCE
With those odds that OP stated, yes. Even IF ZywOo wins it's next to no profit. Unless you put in your whole fortune. And even then you might actually lose all your money.
2021-01-18 17:45
#1 Xantares #2 Paz #3 S1mple Then I woke up
2021-01-18 16:40
#59
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Russia theSavior
s1mple is baiter zywoo teamplayer exit.
2021-01-18 16:58
#60
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Russia ToughGuy
Cuz zywoo has 6 mvps and s1mple 2 and for some not smart users it's determinate factor for who will be top1
2021-01-18 16:59
2 replies
How is individual awards not counted towards the better player? I'm sorry but it doesn't make much sense what you're saying. And MVPs give a lot more points than EVPs (if it wasn't obvious). There are also tiers to MVPs, and you can be sure that the tier of MVPs for the top 3 is highly likely to be the same.
2021-01-18 17:39
1 reply
#93
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Russia ToughGuy
Ofc it counted im just saying that this year every mvp/evp has own value based on events and opponents for example kato considering by hltv like a major and s1mple's evp of IEM beijing is close to mvp since he has bettee rating in that event/final but zywoo got it cuz vitality won.
2021-01-18 17:47
#68
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Denmark zackhoj1
If you followed the reasoning in previous years, you will know that Most Valuable Player (MVP) and Exceptionally Valuable Player (EVP) awards are one of the key factors in the decision-making process.
2021-01-18 17:06
1 reply
but you can't compare the value cuz LAN >Online
2021-01-18 18:15
S1MPLE #1
2021-01-18 17:24
#76
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Romania ukhcsgo
ZywOo has more rating overall/ opening / kast / clutches / MVP, while S1mple has LAN MVP, KD higher, big events higher. It will be 51/49.
2021-01-18 17:26
3 replies
Lan > online in hltv
2021-01-18 17:45
2 replies
It always has been like that therefore these useless threads are getting fairly annoying lately. It should be s1mple this year (maybe it is a bit unlucky for zyWHO due to corona, bu that's life i guess). Until then... it is all clear. In 2021 it will be much more interesting. At least i hope so.
2021-01-18 18:25
Don't really understand this argument, I won't lie. So basically everyone, especially s1mple fans, said last year "it's a ranking based on individual achievements", which to me doesn't make sense, but now this year Na'Vi is succesful on LAN and thus, "s1mple has more team achievements on LAN" while the rest "was online so it's trash". You're saying this because Na'Vi didn't perform that well online and lost all their finals against Astralis or Vitality. If Na'Vi did well online, pretty sure CIS fans wouldn't have used that argument. You're simply trying to take away the other main contender's merit and it's just not fair as he wasn't half as bad as people say when Vitality's roaster was struggling and nearing its end. I can't really understand how 1.25 rating is bad in a dysfunctional team while s1mple 1.10 rating in lesser tournaments (RMRs mostly but not only) isn't considered lower on the spectrum. s1mple may have had a bit more highs but he also had more lows it would seem like according to this article. I may check these stats but they're coming from HLTV so that's fair: ggrecon.com/articles/zywoo-vs-s1mple-who..
2021-01-18 19:25
#92
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Sweden shonk
LINK?
2021-01-18 17:46
#106
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Sweden toddn
2018 had s1mple 3.75 vs device
2021-01-18 18:31
1 reply
true that can't be trusted. But the difference in ratings in 2020 is minimal. The only year where there wasn't even a debate was 2019 be it stats, individual awards or team achievements. 2020 is different (in a lot of ways).
2021-01-18 22:14
Damn dont want to create new account, but in my betting site there is no s1mple vs zywoo, ez 3.2 appartments LUL
2021-01-18 19:23
6 mvps > 2
2021-01-18 20:25
based on what source u have this odds
2021-01-18 20:30
1 reply
on betting site bro
2021-01-18 21:41
its 50/50, odds are so shit
2021-01-18 21:35
1 reply
yeah s1mple odds are 3.8 now
2021-01-18 21:46
6 MVP vs 2 lmfao
2021-01-19 06:16
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#135
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Russia ToughGuy
Yeah lmfao when s1 will get his top1
2021-01-19 06:55
It gonna be zywoo 100%, he performed much better against real opponent, and rekt s0mple every time. farm free 1.1+ odds while you can.
2021-01-19 07:12
MIBR
1.83
HAVU
1.93
Astralis Talent
1.05
Vilay
9.55
AGO
1.60
PACT
2.28
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