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ZYWOO TOP 2 INCOMING
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Poland jackqueestrap 
BE READY FOR THIS BOYS ZYWOO TOP 2
2021-01-19 11:53
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#1
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Denmark _Top1
More like zywoo top 1 2 times
2021-01-19 11:54
6 replies
#9
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France laglory
+1
2021-01-19 15:27
+1
2021-01-19 16:43
seems so
2021-01-19 16:51
+1
2021-01-19 16:56
+1
2021-01-20 04:10
+1
2021-01-20 04:12
#2
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Australia B_Tannen
Ranking makes no sense if ZywOo is second.
2021-01-19 11:54
27 replies
#3
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Israel DavidR123
why not?
2021-01-19 15:22
21 replies
#5
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Australia B_Tannen
Because I think the LAN will be too heavily weighted. With only one opportunity to perform well at a relevant LAN, rating it so highly is unfair.
2021-01-19 15:25
18 replies
#14
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Ukraine McSwell
I think majors are too heavily weighted. With only one - max two opportunities a year to perform well at a relevant major, rating it so highly is unfair. Major = DH summer or cs_summit, to be totally fair.
2021-01-19 15:28
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#19
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Australia B_Tannen
That’s different because the whole year is LAN, so it’s fair. There are opportunities to get gold MVPs in other tournaments as well. But in 2020 almost the entire year was online with the single MVP chance. If you’re like ZywOo, your team as a whole held you back in early 2020 while NaVi as a whole was much better.
2021-01-19 15:32
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#24
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Ukraine McSwell
It's not a problem of tournament organizers, hltv or somebody else - only Zywoo and his team. Fact, that there were very few LAN events in 2020 - is making them more valuable, exquisite and exclusive, not the opposite. Katowice LAN and tournaments with the same caliber always be much above online events, no matter what happened afterwards.
2021-01-19 15:37
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#26
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Australia B_Tannen
I guess it’s balanced by NaVi losing in CIS for a couple months.
2021-01-19 15:38
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#31
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Ukraine McSwell
NaVi wasn't loosing in CIS much, they threw one RMR but then qualified to Major legends with 2nd place in rmr points. Btw, I think s1mple deserved to get CIS RMR Clutch Island mvp, considering the fact NA players got mvp-s for their 8-teams RMRs events like DH Summer NA.
2021-01-19 15:44
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#32
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Australia B_Tannen
Region lock makes this very hard.
2021-01-19 15:51
major and major mvp didnt help to tarik to be in top20 tho...
2021-01-19 15:32
#23
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France Kaaai
Players know they are about to play the biggest tournament of the year before a major, it wasn't the case before Katowice
2021-01-19 15:35
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#25
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Ukraine McSwell
2021-01-19 15:38
Several things aren't fair. First of all NA players in the top 20. Second Navi couldn't play 3 Europe events cuz of rmr. Meanwhile, zywho had the chance to gain points for ranking. But LAN is the ultimate competition. Also, we don't talk just about a LAN we talk about 1/2 of the biggest events beside Majors.
2021-01-19 15:30
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#21
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Australia B_Tannen
Vitality as a whole held ZywOo back in early 2020. So it’s more balanced that s1mple had to play CIS. Also NaVi did terrible in the region-lock stage, hurting s1mple even more.
2021-01-19 15:35
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CIS doesn't even count for top20 ranking. Also, they played vs cheating hard Legion. They won one rmr and one they gave up in playoffs cuz of perfecto covid.
2021-01-19 15:38
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#28
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Australia B_Tannen
MVPs for ZywOo have to count. Look at the teams playing eu RMR.
2021-01-19 15:39
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if you want to make it fair between zyxwho and s1mple. You have to erase the Europe rmr events. Cuz Navi couldn't play there it wasn't their choice but the rmr events count and S1mple rmr don't count. That was at least fair by the numbers. Another option is you divide their stats through the attending tournaments.
2021-01-19 15:42
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#34
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Australia B_Tannen
Then gwb and ice challenge can’t count for NaVi because vitality wasn’t there. Months of cis play should hurt s1mple anyway.
2021-01-19 16:02
3 replies
an rmr event is sth different than a random tournament. At RMR events you you can't change the region but you play an event that is "equal" in another region. When you don't attend to an esl/blast etc tournament there is no copy event where you forced to play.
2021-01-19 16:09
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#37
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Australia B_Tannen
Whoever wins it, deserved. But ZywOo is my pick.
2021-01-19 16:12
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Onlina era makes it hard to decide. Statswise S1mple is a little bit ahead. And I personally prefer his entertaining playstyle vs Zywhos. But It would even be fine if hltv says "they are so close and this shit online era made it harder we give both nr1 spot"
2021-01-19 16:32
To me that would make sense, but something that makes ZywOo maybe top 1 and not s1mple (although I like both players). S1mple lost three times in an elite tournament to follow against ZywOo (And even with incredible stats, he didn't get the Beijing MVP). It's hard to see someone in the top 1 when the top 2 beats them almost every time. But other than that, if s1mple is in the top 1, it will still be 100% deserved
2021-01-19 15:29
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#44
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Israel DavidR123
guess you are right
2021-01-19 16:50
+1 Ranking makes no sense since jks got his place in top-20
2021-01-19 15:28
1 reply
#15
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Australia B_Tannen
He was rated higher than KRiMZ, and HLTV had to take region lock into account.
2021-01-19 15:29
top 2 means he is either 1 or 2
2021-01-19 16:13
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#41
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Australia B_Tannen
True and whoever wins deserved. But ZywOo is my pick.
2021-01-19 16:13
1 reply
ah ok, i was almost afraid that you were yet another victim of the idea that top 2 only means second place lol. too many ppl on this site dont understand.
2021-01-20 04:07
#4
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Serbia LtN))
Stop with those threads pls I can't even imagine what will happen after announcement lol
2021-01-19 15:25
6 replies
+1 ngl im nervous not sure whose gonna be no2
2021-01-19 15:26
Whether it's s1mple or ZywOo, people will cry robbery. Already in 2019 some still think that ZywOo has stolen its top 1 place ... ^^
2021-01-19 15:31
hltv 404 cause fanboys will overload it lol
2021-01-19 15:35
It's extremely close so neither side should act like it's 99/1, IMO both deserve it.
2021-01-20 04:15
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#51
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Serbia LtN))
Yep its like 51/49
2021-01-20 09:59
hltv gonna crash @utc 19 tonight :D
2021-01-20 10:03
#6
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Europe TittyMcSwag
+1 ez for s1mple
2021-01-19 15:26
No, and top 1 and 2 are announced tomorrow
2021-01-19 15:26
both are announced tomorrow how many times have we been over this
2021-01-19 15:27
NOIDONTTHINKSO
2021-01-19 15:27
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pepeLaugh TeaTime s1mple believers
2021-01-19 15:41
+1 ez4s1mple
2021-01-19 15:28
Damn, maybe stop this? Just wait and tomorrow you'll know. Stop this fucking spam with s1mple/ZywOo threads. You and others acting like an impatient and annoying children.
2021-01-19 15:52
#36
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Russia wmenarg
+1 simple best player
2021-01-19 16:10
Blast spoiler s1mple top1
2021-01-19 16:12
No hi be 1rist of corse!!!!!!!!
2021-01-19 16:13
Complexity
1.60
OG
2.26
Endpoint
2.49
HAVU
1.54
Virtus.pro
1.12
Endpoint
5.90
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