remeber the csppa rankings and what a shit show they were? mibr 8th kekw.
Real talk though Thorins is probably the best and after that hltv gets it 90% right
esl ranking is pretty shit but its actaully used for stuff so you have to pay attention to it
thorins ranking is often hated on but he has a lot of interesting hot takes
Renegades - #5, ORDER - #15 in Gosu Ranking
Renegades - #25, ORDER - #29 in ESL Ranking
Thats all u need to know. ESL ranking is retarded, and Gosu ranking is even more retarded.