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Zywoo + major = GOAT?
Armenia Vladimir_vladimirovitch 
If Zywoo wins next major (and most likely another top1 HLTV). Will he be considered undisputed GOAT?
2021-01-20 20:14
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#1
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India somecunt
If Top1 and major then def GOAT
2021-01-20 20:15
11 replies
Nice joke >zypoo >major
2021-01-20 20:21
8 replies
#15
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United States RAK47
Cry kid hahahahha your all time in commenting and creating top1 somple threads got wasted xaxaxa
2021-01-20 20:22
lmao your pillow must be soaking a lot of tears today
2021-01-20 20:46
cry is free
2021-01-20 20:54
#62
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Russia M1shV4T
no major for s2mple as well so...
2021-01-20 21:15
how about s1mple who got into the pro circuit years before? still no major lul However I have good news for you in this lonely night: CRY IS FREE
2021-01-20 22:01
2 replies
#112
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Ukraine Handra
u cant win major if there is no major imgur.com/gallery/ri8xg
2021-01-21 11:58
1 reply
no major last year, what about the other ones
2021-01-21 13:52
s2mple_still_0_major
2021-01-21 07:00
then Cold is already GOAT
2021-01-21 07:44
1 reply
That would be 3 top1 for Zywoo. But coldzera is definitely a legend of the game. So much achievements in 2 years. Unfortunately it didn't last like it did for device
2021-01-21 10:54
coldzera 2 majors, 2 mpv majors, 2 years #1
2021-01-20 20:15
19 replies
device 4 majors, 2 mvp majors, 6 years #5
2021-01-20 20:20
18 replies
#5 is not #1
2021-01-20 20:24
If you think like all HLTV s2mple fanboys now, Coldzera is GOAT, if it’s in your logic Device is GOAT
2021-01-20 20:32
16 replies
1. Device 2. Cold 3. olof s1mple and zywoo are nowhere to be goats
2021-01-20 20:37
15 replies
0/8 device cant be goat without 0 top1
2021-01-20 21:07
13 replies
6 appearance in top 5, 4 majors, 2 majors mvps, 18 mvps
2021-01-20 21:15
10 replies
being consistent doesnt mean greatest
2021-01-20 21:16
9 replies
+1
2021-01-20 21:36
Being consistent over years on a high level as the only player it does. Device is the GOAT of CSGO, no doubt, whoever says no hast noch clue about cs
2021-01-21 02:43
goat only means so and achievements. Nobody has more achievements than him. If we would claim anyone as GOAT based only on mechanical skill - we could consider even Scream or some kid like Tenz, but it has no sense. CR7 is GOAT in football while having not the same raw talent as Messi. But his hard work means everything, that's why he wins everywhere and not only in Spain. -- Also, player's tops are mostly subjective even tho they're calculated with the same expression. TOP1 as a team isn't subjective, bc there's only one team that can win the tournament, and taking in fact that astralis was the best team in last 4/5 years, and device being the MVP of this team all the time, also being consistent before astralis was even existed, we can really say he is the GOAT.
2021-01-21 07:17
6 replies
cr7 isnt goat lmao
2021-01-21 07:35
2 replies
i hope u are
2021-01-21 07:42
1 reply
messi 6 ballondor>5 ballondor
2021-01-21 07:43
*astralis best team in the last 3 years. 16/17 LG/Sk
2021-01-21 20:31
2 replies
astralis was top1 at the end of 2016
2021-01-21 21:04
1 reply
finish the year at #1 doesnt mean the best team in the year
2021-01-21 21:51
So he can be goat with 0 top 1? I mean he'll take it any day xD
2021-01-20 21:16
1 reply
+1 lol
2021-01-20 21:16
Olof had his era but rewatch the games, nowadays Zywoo, s1mple or device would beat past Olof very easily. I actually believe he didnt lose so much of his skill. I think he just didn't evolve enough with the game, the meta and the scene and got left behind. Then the problems occured (the wrist, the motivation, etc ...)
2021-01-21 10:57
#3
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India iejesus
no tf is this
2021-01-20 20:16
#4
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Romania ukhcsgo
OF COURSE
2021-01-20 20:16
#5
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Other gomonya
No. He needs atleast as many majors as Device to be considered goat since many players have at least 1 major.
2021-01-20 20:16
6 replies
Yes but only a very few (if not none) reached Zywoo's level. Also does that mean that Device is currently GOAT?
2021-01-20 20:31
4 replies
Yes he is GOAT but definetly not Best of all time
2021-01-20 20:34
2 replies
I agree, Device is the GOAT when it comes to the greatest career of all time in cs:go. But in terms of peak levels, I'd say ZywoO 2019 or s1mple 2018 could both easily be considered the best 1-year peak in all of cs:go history. And in terms of flashiness and x-factor, obviously s1mple wins but mechanically speaking, Zywoo is on the same level as s1mple any day of the week. He just doesn't feel the need to run around and flashing it the way s1mple does.
2021-01-20 21:46
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100% Zywoo is the best of all time in my opinion. Especially as a teammate. Navi never has consistency, and it very well could be s1mple's fault. I think it's time for people to stop always saying he has bad teammates when really he might just be a bad teammate himself.
2021-01-21 16:07
device only need one #1 to be goat on paper .. but if zywoo gets #1 3rd time in a row with a major then its gg .
2021-01-20 20:59
#110
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Poland pi3trAs
If Zywoo will get third #1 in a row and major, maybe he will take also fourth #1 some day he will be definitely goat
2021-01-21 11:00
no xd
2021-01-20 20:16
if major mvp and getting other big tournaments in the way as well then yeah he would be top1 for 3 years straight
2021-01-20 20:16
zywho never win a major
2021-01-20 20:17
1 reply
Says a random guy that yesterday would have said "Zywoo #2 EZ4s1mple"
2021-01-20 20:49
#9
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Spain elskio
He needs at least an era + 2 majors to be goat
2021-01-20 20:18
until he can rival device for GOAT status he will have to stay on top for quite some time, lets see :)
2021-01-20 20:19
He needs a major and a major mvp and he's set.
2021-01-20 20:19
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#20
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North America HUDASKz
+1
2021-01-20 20:33
Major + top1 + Kato and Cologne to be GOAT
2021-01-20 20:20
1) vitality wont win major 2) zywoo wont win major 3) fluke top 1... lol
2021-01-20 20:32
44 replies
#23
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North America 007DBR9
fluke top 1 twice smh
2021-01-20 20:34
29 replies
yes? 2019: s1mple was better but has less maps(130 and 210 for zywoo) 2020: online era saved vitality from tier 2 team + top 1 for zywoo(and btw s1mple is better than zywoo but zywoo is top 1 only cuz mvps(online....)
2021-01-20 20:37
28 replies
#26
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North America 007DBR9
stage 1 of grief denial
2021-01-20 20:38
22 replies
grief? lol i dont care about top 20 so much, but I am sad that we have fluke top 1 in 2020
2021-01-20 20:42
21 replies
#28
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France Carrotaboy
"i dont care about top 20 so much" you do, stop lying to yourself with this childish behavior
2021-01-20 20:45
20 replies
how can u know that i care so much? I cared about it 1 month ago but I understood that top 20 is not important as u can think
2021-01-20 20:48
19 replies
#39
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France Carrotaboy
yeah it's not valid for you anymore not because you "understood that top 20 is not important" you think it's not valid because s1mple didn't get top 1 this year. end of the story
2021-01-20 20:53
18 replies
ahahhah ofc, if u want think so, ok, its your problem s1mple is true top 1, zywoo is avg player
2021-01-20 20:53
17 replies
#42
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France Carrotaboy
you've just confirm what i said by writing this retarded bs
2021-01-20 20:55
14 replies
ok kid
2021-01-20 20:56
13 replies
#44
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France Carrotaboy
nice retort you're the one acting like 12 years old rn
2021-01-20 20:57
12 replies
like u?
2021-01-20 20:58
11 replies
#51
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France Carrotaboy
how am I acting like a child rn ? I didn't insulted you nor s1mple unlike you did to me
2021-01-20 21:00
10 replies
u said that i dont care about top 20 only cuz s1mple is top 1 what? how u can know it? s1mple is better than zywoo
2021-01-20 21:05
9 replies
#61
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France Carrotaboy
Exactly and why i think this way ? Because judging by your reponses on #48, #52 and #40 and on others thread you think that s1mple is top 1 and you CARE about this, and you were expecting that would the case, and if it was the case your expectations would be match and in results it would be valid in your eyes. Alas it's not, and so your expectations are not matched and then this top is not valid for you. End of the story
2021-01-20 21:15
8 replies
i didnt say that i dont care, i dont care SO MUCH
2021-01-20 21:17
7 replies
#69
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France Carrotaboy
You didn't get the point of my comment
2021-01-20 21:20
6 replies
and u didnt understand my comment
2021-01-20 21:21
5 replies
#74
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France Carrotaboy
I never mentionned that you didn't care about the top reread the thread
2021-01-20 21:27
4 replies
edited XD ok
2021-01-20 21:29
3 replies
#76
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France Carrotaboy
yes I edited immediatly after posting because of tiping mistake i'm sorry I undersand that you find this odd and that you don't trust my word for it but i didn't changed the point of my comment i swear Beside my point still stand
2021-01-20 21:32
2 replies
"Because judging by your reponses on , and and on others thread you think that s1mple is top 1 and you CARE about this, and you were expecting that would the case,...." u said "CARE" with big letters like i said that i didnt care and u wanted to show that i care about top(and i actually care but i didnt say not)
2021-01-20 21:42
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#91
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France Carrotaboy
« u said "CARE" with big letters like i said that i didnt care » When did I imply that ? What I meant by that is that you cared about « s1mple>zywoo » and so yes I made the conclusion that you care about that top more than you are showing. If it’s really the case then why you’re biting at every comments that s1mple haters throw at you ?
2021-01-20 22:26
#45
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North America 007DBR9
you lost buddy
2021-01-20 20:57
1 reply
s1mple>zywoo
2021-01-20 20:59
Read again dude, he is #1 because of impact, finally some sense in HLTV ranking
2021-01-20 21:08
4 replies
no ) read again and u will see s1mple>zywoo
2021-01-20 21:09
3 replies
in rating yes, in impact no, and that's the reason he got #1, so yeah, read again
2021-01-20 22:08
2 replies
0.01 difference? ok
2021-01-20 22:20
1 reply
Tell HLTV man, they literally said that MVPs and Impact are what made ZywOo #1
2021-01-21 06:46
DEADLY HOW ARE YOU DOING?
2021-01-20 20:59
13 replies
s1mple is better then zywoo XD
2021-01-20 21:03
12 replies
;DDDDDDD
2021-01-20 21:05
11 replies
check articles XD
2021-01-20 21:07
10 replies
I see 1.29 rating in Big Event playoffs, the highest overall like in 2019. "Gets statistics on weak teams in group stage" they said
2021-01-20 21:18
9 replies
and now check elite events stats, lan stats, vs top teams
2021-01-20 21:21
8 replies
lan stats you so funny, deadly <3
2021-01-20 21:36
7 replies
yeah, cuz zywoo 1.18 at lans (((
2021-01-20 21:38
6 replies
1.32
2021-01-20 21:43
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4 replies
3 replies
1 day XXDXDDXD typical navi hater
2021-01-20 22:17
2 replies
Ez 2x top 1 Cry Russian hahaha
2021-01-21 02:56
1 reply
fluke ok lebanon education(russian XD)
2021-01-21 11:55
#22
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North America 007DBR9
if he gets a major mvp he'll be over gtr so yeas devve has a long list of ws though
2021-01-20 20:34
#31
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France Nairelav
Same goes for s1mple imo
2021-01-20 20:46
Nt FaZe era and 3 majors in a row incoming
2021-01-20 20:46
I think, Na'Vi would win next major, cuz they are very confident at LAN. They should've win rio major if not pandemic. Most of onliners would lose on LAN, so it's shoud be only Na'Vi against Astralis battle
2021-01-20 20:47
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#72
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Spain elskio
Navi always a fluke team, wins 1 event then disappear for the whole year what are you talking about?
2021-01-20 21:25
2 replies
1. Onliners, who sucked at LAN came (BiG, Vitality, etc.) 2. Na'Vi had to play CIS RMR tournaments and lost form playing against coach-cheaters (bug abusers)
2021-01-20 21:27
1 reply
2019 LAN season, Zywoo top1 already. Zywoo LAN > Zywoo online Same for other Vitality players. Only Misutaa and Nivera didn't prove themselves on LAN.
2021-01-21 01:24
So it would be 3top 1 in a row and a major vs 4 majors including 3 in a row? As CS:GO is team based I would say it is not enough. But I would understand people thinking otherwise.
2021-01-20 20:48
dev1ce ?
2021-01-20 20:50
#38
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Portugal joaosenra
IF ZywOo win again the best in the world in 2021 he will be doing history and become one of the best if not the best individualy of all cs go, but to be the goat he need to win the major too, but win the vitality carry then would be hard, but he have more chances to win the major than s1mple i think that s1mple will retire without win a major
2021-01-20 20:53
1 reply
Would be sad if s2mple retires without a major
2021-01-21 01:25
to me still device, but if zywoo keeps playing like that he will be the goat for sure, specially winning stuff and he is only 20!! to me its 1.device 2.olof 3.coldzera terms of being insane + winning big titles + growing on the big pressure games zywoo has all thats needed, is just a matter of wait, he gets better and better
2021-01-20 20:59
#53
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France Jaune
imagine if its ZywOo and Vitality who finally take down Astralis and imagine if its in a Major Finals would be my GOAT regardless tho, ZywOo is the GOAT if he wins a major
2021-01-20 21:03
device = 4x major, 2x major mvp coldzera = 2x major, 2x major mvp hltv top 1 doesn't means that much.
2021-01-20 21:08
he just need another top 1 hltv to be the goat or win a major this year
2021-01-20 21:48
of course
2021-01-20 22:17
#96
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United Kingdom Fad3r
Calling it now. ZywOo will never win a major. Predicted by me 2021
2021-01-21 02:58
C'mon dude Device will still be goat. Same way as cold isn't goat ZywOo won't be too. Device has 5 majors. He might win another. Consider someone goat when he's consistently performed for atleast 5 years and won major. Let's talk this sometime after.
2021-01-21 06:53
i wont say goat until s1mple is soo close he can be the goat if he gets a lot of margin between #2 and him for now device is closer to being goat after s1mple keeping in mind the major appearances and performance
2021-01-21 06:55
Yes ,until the player got top1 and a major ,him will be just a little kid (And win katowice or any esl One)
2021-01-21 06:56
already goatwoo
2021-01-21 07:40
I like how this thread indicates that Zywoo if going to take the next major like it was no big deal.. 1 major wont make you GOAT. You need more.
2021-01-21 12:30
3 top uno in a row and then if he gets top5-10 +2 majors will make him goat. he of course needs to be twice major mvp. then he will be goat forever for sure, but I want to see if he can do it.
2021-01-21 12:31
too young
2021-01-21 20:33
yes
2021-01-21 21:52
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