yes all the time he just goes for k/d and clips like franzj
everyone knows he's just so good, that boombl4 makes flamie the bait so that s1mple can get a few quick trade kills
i ain't a s1mple fan, nor a zywoo fan, but that's a fact
You can watch yesterday's inferno and decide yourself. Especially, the last round lmao.
He does depending on the map and circumstances but most of the time in maps like nuke or d2 for example, he opens a lot more and doesnt bait.
G2 fans argue that NiKo should not be the entry fragger, he is too valuable to die first. I think that it applies to all the great players, the longer they survive, the higher the chances of winning.
1. His team plays for him. If it's not obvious enough, s1mple has almost only kills with premium rifles (deag, awp, ak). His team always drops him, even a deag on ecos. Boomich would drop an AWP to s1mple and play with CZ on sandbags.
2. Perfecto and flamie have very high % of support rounds, perfecto being the first % in 2020 with 23.2% and flamie 21%. That means that they always get traded and go first to create space. For comparison, a player like Amanek, selfless and always going first and getting traded is at 21.3%.
3. Often, he's put in clutch situations = last player alive. etc etc etc...
so yes, s1mple is a baiter, like blameF.
he doesnt, maybe sometimes. hes so good he gets shit ton of kills every game. sometimes he does bait, but its always there in cs. but the fact that navi lays under his playstyle is present (nothing bad i see about it
Baiting is a salty excuse made by haters.
Definition of "baiting" from them can vary, but most of the time it is "playing trades or not going first".
When favorite players of these haters are catched in doing the same in their teams - they call it "playstyle" or "team strategy".
I don't believe he is a baiter. He rarely entries, but entrying really isn't a star player role to begin with. If NaVi has this extraordinary player, of course they want to use his capability to the fullest. It is not his own decision to have a role where he can have big impact every round.
I believe there's a fine line between trading well and baiting. The argument most people use is, he doesn't entry much. If that were to be the case, every team has 1 entry and 4 baiters.
How Navi's playstyle works is, to keep s1mple alive as long as possible, so that they have the best chance at winning (not really very efficient to do this always, but that's a different point). Also, it's important to understand that it's a pro team, with specific roles. It's not a casual match, where someone baits selfishly and makes others angry. Setting up a star for success has been a deliberate strategy for many teams, including Navi. And looking at s1mple's prowess, it's kinda justified. Hence, it's not about him being a baiter, but more about Navi's playstyle being centered around him. Navi Org wouldn't be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on the players, if they didn't like what the players were doing. s1mple is literally doing his "job". If the team strat is to put resources onto him, that's just their way.
So, s1mple consumes a lot of resources, but that's not based on s1mple's dictation, rather a unanimous team decision. We can argue about whether that's a good thing or not, but this question doesn't concern that. Have a nice day :)
Maybe a little bit.
But surely not how it looks in the eyes of his haters.
no people just hating and not willing to admit he is the best
It is a bit like messi, when you got such a good player you just give him the ball all the time. Then you rely on him too much and it hinders the overall team. Yeh it is true that navi is mainly set up to help s1mple out but then that puts more responsibility on him. If he gets a p250 and Kevlar on pistol rounds then runs bout like a boy and gets killed then it’s on him. But then if he goes and wrecks heads people go wild.
It is just one way of playing the game. I don’t agree with it as it’s a team game and to be the best “team” you can’t put so much of reliance into 1 player.
When you look at teams like astralis and when they play well as a team. All of there k/d is good all of there ratings are good and usually the same when they play badly. Some navi matches s1mple carries hard and is that cos he baits or is that cos he plays smart and is just that much better??
Feel like for navi to win big matches you need s1mple to drop 40 frags. Imagine being in that team and you die your like pfff don’t matter simple will win it for us. Makes you less inclined to play well. So it’s a difficult thing to figure out. How do you handle hands down one of the greatest individuals at csgo?
People are sheep. They repeat what ever other retards or baiters say and that doesn't most of the time have anything to do with reality.
Not all the time, but I have to admit that his team is clearly sacrificing for him.
Did you watch yesterday's game VS liquid? Inferno map was atrocious to watch. Basically s1mple was going banana, staying behind his teammates. He throws 2 flashes above the roof and then his teammates push and die. He tries to challenge a bit in 1vs5. Walk back the banana to save weapon and get useless exit frags.
Even on CT side: full eco round for them except s1mple who spends his money in an m4. He dies, he's poor the next round but no big deal, perfecto will drop for him and play with pistol. This is ridiculous.
I'm so mad at Navi right now. This game style has to stop. It's like they don't want for win, they just want s1mple to top the scoreboard. Navi members will be remembered as s1mple's decoys and piggy banks and s1mple as the guy would could have been top1 if Zywoo didn't exist.
Time to wake up Navi. You can't base your game on overprotecting s1mple and boosting his stars hoping for ace clutch every round.
His role is to go as the last because he has the highest fragging ability, that's it. You can't really call it baiting if it's all planned and thought through.
Does he bait - yes. But it is the strategy navi uses for many of their rounds.
S1mple holds an safe angle while his teammates jiggle peeks every single angle on the map to find the locations of the opponents at which point s1mple will move around to kill the players his team finds for him.
This is a very simplified explanation of how Na'vi plays but especially on T-side they do this ALOT!
Thats also one of the reasons they sometimes struggle with time running low. Because walking and jiggle peeking the entire map takes quite alot of time.
And like many others said - i think baiting is bad if you dont trade which he obviously does.
He is so good that he can bait. Baiting isn’t a negative thing always.
If you look how he plays he does bait more than avarage. Obviously not all the time but if you compare him to ZywOo for example there is a big difference. Navi VS Liquid was a perfect example.
Why a lot of peoples keep saying : "he always got drop good pistols/guns from his teammates" is it really baiting? I honestly thought it was just a casual & common strategy. U drop guns to your best player in the team. Why is it baiting? I dont understand.
Who the fuck gave you the permission to use trash insulting words for people who you don't even know and have nothing to do with?
If you call someone stupid and idiot just because of their opinions you are a bigger idiot
I don't think he baits on purpose, I just don't think he reads what is good for his team very well, it's extremely evident on his rotating and T Side.
CT his game is good without looking at stats I'm sure his CT halfs are much better because enemies have to come to him, his only flaw is he won't fight until he dies to make space or delay the enemies so his team can rotate.
Basically he doesn't sacrifice himself.
He is the most skilled in the game, he is too good at stay7ng alive and he is at his best either when teams are hitting his site, or he's clutching which is again enemies coming to him or he hunts, he does not hunt unless he has to.
Everyone bait but s1mple too good kill them all even zywoo bait too
It is his role in the team.
He never goes first when high risk is involved, he never goes first in rushes and he almost always is the refragger.
That's obviously very smart considering his ability yet it boosts his stats unnaturally compared to Niko or device who are set up like that fewer times or zywoo has a similar but less prominent playstyle .
maybe a bit in some situations, overall not really
yes but where is the problem?
is not even about baiting, he just plays ignoring team context all these years, he plays very selfish, a team cant work with him in the team, he always makes his teammates look bad, is same with niko, 2 months after faze got that super team, people were talking mad shit on karrigan, olof, guardian etc LMAO
if s1mple gets into a super team, this will happen, people will call conspiracy, but is just s1mples playstyle
dont believe me? then explain me why his achievment list is a joke next to the legends, and why he disapeared so many times on key games.
well here is the reality of Navi either S1mple Baits or the rest of his team is really fucking letting him down
I don’t think he baits, the team just plays to their strengths, which happens to be S1mple. Dude is the last in on retakes because if the entries fail he needs to have a gun in his hands the next round. S1mple takes up a lot of space, which is true, he doesn’t bait though. He doesn’t throw his teammates out as food all the time. They often take fights first to set him up though. One of those is coordinated and one of those is a thing an annoying PUG player does.
if a igl allows one player to "bait" , its probably for a reason.
for me, i think it was due to him having too cautious of a playstyle, always checking and holding flank, holding passive awp angle as T that will give people the idea he baits all the time.
today on nuke at tunnel vs Jugi where the latter got a 3K was a great example. Did it look like he was baiting? yes, but he was just waiting for Jugi to peek.
Low iq idiot spotted lmao
Yes, but obviously his team sets him up because he's one of the best, and by far the best player on the team