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can 2021 faze be astralis 2.0?
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United States drac0z 
they have all the pieces : mastermind igl - karrigan entry god - rain reliable awp - broky two top 10 riflers - twistzz and cold they might not have better synergy but damn the firepower on this squad
2021-01-22 05:44
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#1
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Australia B_Tannen
Yes. Twistzz in pre-support role used correctly will be hectic.
2021-01-22 05:45
#2
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India Detrax
they have potential
2021-01-22 05:51
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#35
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India _Jazz_
This team is definitely good. but I can't see this team to be top 5.
2021-01-22 08:04
13 replies
#55
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India Detrax
yea cold ,rain and twistzz needs to step up now if they wanna be in top 5 beside that broky is doing well and karrigan is good as an igl
2021-01-22 09:22
5 replies
#63
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India _Jazz_
Imagine if karrigan doesn't even join Faze and all these speculations go to trash.
2021-01-23 05:42
4 replies
#64
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India Detrax
well he's leaving mouz and i don't see any t1 team looking for a new igl so...
2021-01-23 05:43
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#83
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India _Jazz_
Yeah. Hopefully he joins FaZe.
2021-01-23 11:08
no one said that he is leaving mouz, its just contract negotiations going on atm karrigan wants the most amount of money so he says he will join faze mouz doesnt want to pay that much for him so they say that they have dexter as a replacement ready
2021-01-23 11:38
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#96
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India Detrax
ohh i see
2021-01-23 12:51
#72
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India xEleanorex
why can't you 'see' them in top 5?
2021-01-23 06:44
6 replies
There is still astralis navi vitality the 3 S-Tier right now To become top5 the have to overthrow big and heroic, which are imo underrated rn They cant do that with raw firepower imo, they have to really work great together
2021-01-23 10:31
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#81
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India xEleanorex
We can agree to disagree :)
2021-01-23 11:01
They can't on raw firepower, but Karrigan + new coach are supposed to work on teamwork and strats. Even with NiKo Faze has had very good stretches, where teamwork was so-so and strats were decent'ish but their firepower was good. Now their firepower should improve somewhat from when they had olof and their strats+teamwork should improve tremendously. Astralis 2.0 is a stretch cause prime-Astralis is unmatched. But they should be a considerably better FaZe than they were even at the best of times in 2020.
2021-01-23 11:14
#82
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India _Jazz_
You need someone to put on good numbers like other teams in top 5 have, and in this lineup its going to be coldzera who is currently in bad form. Moreover, broky not hitting easy shots sometimes doesn't help either. Both these need to perform really good for FaZe to have a chance in Top 5.
2021-01-23 11:06
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#88
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India xEleanorex
As Karrigan brings structure to the team imo they can put the numbers again.
2021-01-23 11:24
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#91
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India _Jazz_
I really hope so.
2021-01-23 11:36
Kinda sad for kjaerbye
2021-01-22 05:52
12 replies
I think kjerby will be used in some maps like nuke and d2. They will keep the 6 man roster
2021-01-22 06:35
1 reply
And mirage
2021-01-22 07:43
He is washed up
2021-01-22 07:59
9 replies
wtf? na G
2021-01-22 08:19
8 replies
speak human
2021-01-22 13:58
7 replies
kjerby are a good player
2021-01-22 14:18
6 replies
great english but kjaerbye is not a good player, he sucks a lot
2021-01-22 14:19
5 replies
Russia even dont study english in school you know that pal
2021-01-22 14:19
2 replies
i'm fake flagging bro
2021-01-22 14:20
1 reply
aha okey cool gangster
2021-01-22 14:22
"kjaerbye is not a good player" lol low iq Indian. Kjaerbye is a pro, he's rated higher than rain in any maps he played in even though he had to settle into new roles. And he carries faze on nuke whenever the map gets picked. What's the point of "good" English if you have such yeah tier opinions
2021-01-23 06:41
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#79
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Russia bult0
Flag checks out
2021-01-23 10:32
twistzz = top 10 rifler . LMAO
2021-01-22 05:57
9 replies
who else better
2021-01-22 05:59
8 replies
Xyp9x dupreeh device Rpk shox misutaaa nivera electronic tabsen xantares stavn niko teses valde yuurih naf elige niko hunter ropz (probbably some from VP but i dont watch them) k0nfig blamef (gambit same as vp) and more
2021-01-22 06:03
6 replies
hahahaha nt vitalty fan twistzz > tabsen teses yuurih valde hunter nivera misuta rpk dupreeh xyp9x
2021-01-22 06:16
2 replies
LMFAO
2021-01-22 06:16
no you are rlly delusional if you think he is better than dupreeh tho
2021-01-23 10:26
performance =/= skill twistzz was top 10 rifler in 2018 and 19, and you think faze would pay this much for a player that isnt capable of being a top player
2021-01-22 17:24
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sad but yes they are capable to pay for a bad player but twistzz is a good player
2021-01-23 06:10
nice bait
2021-01-23 05:47
electronic bestest rifler
2021-01-22 07:38
cold and twistzz are both support players tho, i don't see this roster going far
2021-01-22 05:58
3 replies
#9
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United States drac0z
the thing is, twistzz was a monster before he was moved to support, if he doesn't play support in faze he's gonna be a behemoth
2021-01-22 06:02
Cold will lurk Twiszz will take Niko roles except IGLing xD Rain and Karrigan will be leading the entry pack with broky being the supportive and passive awp. Just my opinion, only time and Faze will show what they are gonna do.
2021-01-22 06:24
Rain-entry Cold-support Twistzz-lurk Broky-awp Karrigan-igl Kjaerbye-6thman
2021-01-22 07:45
#7
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United States Hindy
no man this won't happen
2021-01-22 06:00
insane on paper like 2018, until they pull another boston hopefully twistzz carry
2021-01-22 06:01
mastermind igl xD
2021-01-22 06:03
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#14
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United States drac0z
yessa
2021-01-22 06:04
No they can't because their playstyle wouldn't allow so^^. They'll rely on skill (ofc strats despite haters saying otherwise) but they'll miss fundamentals and go for skill and it may work for a while but it's impossible to remain consistent with how they play.
2021-01-22 06:04
I hope this is bait because faze is garbage
2021-01-22 06:04
8 replies
#15
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United States drac0z
faze top 10 maybe :*>
2021-01-22 06:07
what if faze signed all of vitality would they still be garbage?
2021-01-22 08:34
6 replies
no but faze is too poor
2021-01-22 08:37
5 replies
they got a net worth of like 15 mil
2021-01-22 08:39
4 replies
zywoo not leaving and vitality not selling so basically its priceless
2021-01-22 08:42
2 replies
what if faze clan pulls up to vitality and kidnaps them and then force them to play in faze
2021-01-22 08:43
1 reply
misutaa wil shoot them 😤😤😤
2021-01-22 08:43
more like +300mil
2021-01-23 05:49
No. One does not become Astralis overnight
2021-01-22 06:07
4 replies
True. Even if im a faze fan boy id still pick astralis they have the consistency the best igl and they're speaking on their native language :)
2021-01-22 07:46
3 replies
>faze >fan pick one
2021-01-22 08:35
2 replies
Why do you tryhards green text on hltv? Not to mention that was terrible usage of the pick one template. Germans should never try to be funny.
2021-01-23 06:45
1 reply
nt woxic
2021-01-23 10:30
Entry god Rain, well yes but actually no
2021-01-22 07:36
i don't think there will ever be another astralis
2021-01-22 07:40
this supposed to be a joke right?
2021-01-22 07:41
Worst team ever even new ence seems to be better.
2021-01-22 07:45
2 replies
#30
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United States E_40
+1
2021-01-22 07:53
Nt
2021-01-23 11:14
#29
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Brazil 2mig
GOATzera top 1 soon mens
2021-01-22 07:48
They will have to rely on their riflers a lot more, broky is not a top 3 awper although he is good.
2021-01-22 07:54
tldr no
2021-01-22 08:00
#34
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India _Jazz_
As a FaZe fan, I deny broky being "reliable awper".
2021-01-22 08:02
navi = astralis 6.9
2021-01-22 08:12
Most atralis players are better individually though :(
2021-01-22 08:13
#38
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Denmark JKTP
Maybe if all of those players where in there peak you have a GOOD team. Broky is still a long way from Device though probably because he never has peaked The only player on the team that can genuinely compete with an astralis member is Karrigan who is not even confirmed yet.
2021-01-22 08:17
I remember hearing this when faze get cold, reality will not be so nice
2021-01-22 08:19
#41
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Poland pimaZo
No way dude. FaZe had better lineup with NiKo and Guardian and they wasn't on top. It will be the same. Some BLAST or smaller IEM Bejing wins but no greatness. Pluse Astralis is good mostly becouse from their brains and synergi. And if we look at firepower Furia, G2 or even TL have more
2021-01-22 08:22
2 replies
I disagree, I dont think new faze will be good, but they have way more potential than old faze, niko was too selfish and the roles didnt mix well, they put guardian to play pug loose cs, when guardian was the best awper in the world, he was playing super slow map control cs, this is the right enviroment for him, karrigan without niko's ego and with only pug players have way more potential.
2021-01-22 08:46
imagine thinking that tl or furia has better firepower than astralis when they literally have magisk, dupreeh and goatvice
2021-01-23 11:30
If you say like Astralis in 2018 then i would probably say no, but they will certainly be good.
2021-01-22 08:32
No international team has had an era.
2021-01-22 08:33
2 replies
because there werent many international teams? in 2017 there was only 1 international team in top 30, which was g2
2021-01-23 11:55
1 reply
g2 kinguin
2021-01-23 11:55
with twistzz no
2021-01-22 08:45
seriously? nooooo
2021-01-22 08:47
#54
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
almost 100% sure karrigan could make that work, as long as the team keeps faith and they have a good coach that takes some of the burden off of karrigan. Even with a mediocre coach the team could get top 5 easily. But with a good coach for sure title contender every tournament. ( all gut feeling ofc so don't take this too seriously )
2021-01-22 08:47
#68
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Russia iiinej
Karrigan is stupid, broky isn't a reliable AWPer, coldzera and Twistzz are not top 10 riflers, perhaps only Twistzz when in shape.
2021-01-23 06:14
1 reply
Well he thinks otherwise obviously and he is i guess smarter than you so..
2021-01-23 11:13
if they get karrigan then ofcourse they can beat astralis
2021-01-23 06:16
no
2021-01-23 06:43
#74
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India xEleanorex
LESSSSGOOOOOO FAZEEECLAAANNNNNN
2021-01-23 06:49
this lineup does not look good at all, potential top 15
2021-01-23 10:33
This iteration of FaZe has way more potential than any with NiKo. Broky still has a lot lot show, twist is sick and with a new team will have new motivation. Rain and cold can still perform to a decent standard and karrigan as igl they might just do very well
2021-01-23 11:18
chance of that happening is 0.00000000001
2021-01-23 11:29
they are not from the same country and do not speak the same native language, they will never be like astralis
2021-01-23 11:54
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