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Olof or gtr
felps | 
Brazil FelpsOnFire 
who is the better players olof or gtr? who would you put ahead in an all time list? discuss/
2021-01-22 12:23
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#1
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United Kingdom ulan
flusha
2021-01-22 12:24
8 replies
ahsulf
2021-01-22 12:27
nah I am making a top 20 best player of all time only csgo. But idk who would I put ahead of each other.
2021-01-22 12:27
6 replies
#53
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Germany m1soooo
1 s1mple 2 Zywoo 3 Device 4 Niko 5 Coldzera
2021-01-22 12:47
5 replies
I have it differently. zywoo is way to high for me dude zywoo went down to 6th on my list and device is first in my list but I understand were u are coming from
2021-01-22 12:49
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#63
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Germany m1soooo
I mean it depends on how you look on it gtr or olof on their peak were never remotely as good as s1mple or zywoo
2021-01-22 12:53
2 replies
true I agree that is why s1mple is 2nd in mine the problem I have with zywoo is his longevity and he lacks good torments wins. His best year so far (2020) was all messed up. He came to the scene on 2018 and 2019 I still believe s1mple was better then him
2021-01-22 12:55
+1 ppl tend to forget this now BEST >>>>>>> old best
2021-01-22 13:32
my top 5 is dev1ce s1mple f0rest NiKo olofmeister
2021-01-22 13:22
gtr
2021-01-22 12:24
#3
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United States E_40
f0rest
2021-01-22 12:25
olof by far
2021-01-22 12:25
depends on the year
2021-01-22 12:26
rn i would say olof, all time gtr
2021-01-22 12:26
#7
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Norway thenewdagon
Olof stayed at a higher level for a longer time. also won one more major
2021-01-22 12:26
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#14
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Europe Cirros_V2
+1 and didnt leave his game for another lol
2021-01-22 12:28
6 replies
? gtr didnt leave cs for another game
2021-01-22 12:49
5 replies
#64
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Europe Cirros_V2
didnt he leave for valorant?
2021-01-22 12:53
2 replies
No, he trolled. He streams whatever game he feels like playing now.
2021-01-22 12:55
1 reply
#71
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Europe Cirros_V2
oh, ok.
2021-01-22 12:56
2021-01-22 12:56
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that wasnt correct. HLTV just got bamboozled
2021-01-22 12:57
GTR of 2013 > Olof 2015 witch were their best years and GTR has placed 2nd 3 times in majors just making an argument against your claim to discuss I don't have a formed opinion wet
2021-01-22 12:29
10 replies
i see ur point, but in my opinion 2015 was vastly more competitive than 2013. even more so 2016+, and then u saw how much get_right struggled at tier 1 level, meanwhile Olof was still very strong
2021-01-22 12:35
9 replies
yeah but Olof also head a dip in performance from 2018 on. Also olof peak wasn't as good as some other player. But I staled with olof
2021-01-22 12:38
8 replies
that's because olof wasn't an awp abusing baiter.
2021-01-22 12:50
7 replies
gtr also wasent
2021-01-22 12:51
6 replies
gtr's peak wasn't higher.
2021-01-22 12:55
5 replies
yes ofc it was olof had good longevity but his peak in turn of individual performance was not that high.
2021-01-22 12:56
4 replies
I can tell you only look at stats to get that claim. Olof was an entry fragger and was the #1 player in the world. His peak, if you actually watched him during 2015 and early 2016, was insane and much much higher than get_rights.
2021-01-22 13:16
3 replies
yes I look at stats BUT DID U WATCH GTR. In 2013 he felt unkillable. I was there watching were you? yes I did watch olof he was the best player in the world at 2015 but I never seen something like that old nip in my life.
2021-01-22 13:19
2 replies
Yes I did, he looked like he was vs people who didn't understand the game, which he was... He switched to CSGO early and benefitted from it when others were switching from source / 1.6. You have to realise old NIP was basically the equivalent of a danish 5 stack on faceit vs 5 solo queue players. Olofmeister in 2015 in my opinion is the greatest feat of a top 1 so far in HLTV history. I rate entry fragging and becoming top 1 much higher than full-time awping and becoming top 1.
2021-01-22 13:22
1 reply
fair enough. but still I think u are undervaluing GTR very much
2021-01-22 13:24
#9
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Europe Cirros_V2
olof ofc
2021-01-22 12:27
GeT_RiGhT without hesitation. He was already #2 player in the world in 2010 and 2011, while olof was basically a nobody. He also got #1 in both 2013 and 2014, while olof only got number one in 2015. GeT_RiGhT has been around for longer and was already a legend when olof came into the scene. Obviously, olof has achieved more in CS:GO, though, with his two major wins and one major MVP.
2021-01-22 12:27
13 replies
this is csgo only just to clarify
2021-01-22 12:30
7 replies
In CS:GO only, it's closer. I might give even give it to olof.
2021-01-22 12:30
6 replies
yeh it is tuff
2021-01-22 12:31
also could u help me out in my top 20 I am trying to balance out trophies and achievements with individual skill. I am debating with my self were s1mple and Zywoo will go. For there is no debate that s1mple should be ahead of him. currently s1mple is 2nd and zywoo 4th
2021-01-22 12:33
4 replies
Sounds okay. These sorts of lists are impossible to make perfect, as you're rating players in different parts of their careers and in different eras against each other. They will always be a bit flawed.
2021-01-22 12:35
3 replies
another question niko or zywoo. Honestly I am a having a very hard time with zywoo bc he is so so good, but he got into the scene on 2018 and his team was only good last year.
2021-01-22 12:40
2 replies
I really couldn't answer it for you. They're sort of not even in the same category.
2021-01-22 12:43
1 reply
yeah I probably going with niko, but after some year zywoo will be competing on the top 3 lol
2021-01-22 12:44
#30
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Europe Cirros_V2
i mean gtr was great player in 2010 and 2011 but he stopped being top player in 2016 while olof even if not with his top 1 performance he kept pretty well lvl through next 4 years.
2021-01-22 12:34
4 replies
GeT_RiGhT was a top player from 2009 to 2015 and mediocre afterwards. Olof was a top player from 2014 to 2016 and good afterwards. I think GeT_RiGhT's ~6 years of being a top player beats olof's stint of a bit under 3 years. No matter what happened afterwards.
2021-01-22 12:39
3 replies
#50
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Europe Cirros_V2
idk he won 2 majors and was top player from 2014 to 2017 not 16. He won much more tournaments when teams were much better, not like at the beginning when no one knew how to play it. Imo that means much more and olof > gtr :D
2021-01-22 12:44
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I don't think he was a top player in the latter stage of 2017. Maybe early in the year. Even if we grant that, it's still over two years less than GeT_RiGhT Also, your point about nobody knowing how to play "at the beginning" makes no sense considering that GeT_RiGhT was a top 2 1.6 player from late 2009 all the way to the beginning of CS:GO. That's over 3 years and right at the end of the game when the competition was more difficult than ever before. I'm talking about their entire careers. Not just CS:GO. If we talk about CS:GO only I agree that olof takes the cake.
2021-01-22 12:48
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#59
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Europe Cirros_V2
Fair enough
2021-01-22 12:51
olof
2021-01-22 12:27
#13
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Portugal Leg_day2
nissan skyline
2021-01-22 12:27
P1mple
2021-01-22 12:28
1 reply
s1mple is 2nd on mine
2021-01-22 12:31
#17
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Brazil killfell
GODZERA
2021-01-22 12:30
10 replies
I am making a top 20 all time cold is 3
2021-01-22 12:30
9 replies
wait, who is 2nd then? assuming device is 1st without any contest
2021-01-22 12:35
8 replies
device is first and s1mple is second but everything is still interchangeable
2021-01-22 12:36
7 replies
well let me give you my opinion: 1.device 2.olof 3. get_right 4. cold after this u can make an argument for anyone... cold s1mple and other still have potential to go higher with more time, while olof and gr are not getting any higher
2021-01-22 12:51
6 replies
honestly I cant put GTR and olof ahead cold. the thing u are going only on trophies and longevity. GTR and olof are definitely great They have they legacy they do bc of the team they had. not trying to take anything away from them tho
2021-01-22 12:53
5 replies
well are you making the list of the greatest or the most skilled players?
2021-01-22 12:57
4 replies
you need to consider both my guy. That is why s1mple is 2nd and zywoo is 6th for me right now and will probably drop even further. I considering every possible criteria to decide the best player of all time. bc it is much easier if I decide the most wining player or the skilled players
2021-01-22 13:00
3 replies
alright makes sense :) btw felps my favourite BR player, hope he kills it soon
2021-01-22 13:24
2 replies
letsss goooooo
2021-01-22 13:29
where u from?
2021-01-22 13:29
super close, but i think olof edges out gr slightly
2021-01-22 12:31
3 replies
yeh I agree specially bc it is only csgo related
2021-01-22 12:31
2 replies
yes if we were talking cs franchise then it would be the other way around
2021-01-22 12:34
1 reply
yeh
2021-01-22 12:33
GTR its not even close.
2021-01-22 12:32
olof
2021-01-22 12:34
gtr for sure.b2b #1>olof's career
2021-01-22 12:35
Easily olof gtr just farmed stats against bot teams in early counter strike
2021-01-22 12:35
gtr always
2021-01-22 12:38
2 replies
even if it is only csgo
2021-01-22 12:41
1 reply
Hmm not sure then. I wasn't aware you only ment cs:go :) Personality wise I will always go with gtr, even with csgo. But performance wise Olof was strong.
2021-01-22 13:09
Olofmastar
2021-01-22 12:41
#42
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Turkmenistan real_bob
OFC coldzera
2021-01-22 12:41
2 replies
cold is already ahead of them he is 3rd
2021-01-22 12:42
1 reply
at all time in my list
2021-01-22 12:42
#47
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Turkey RENNNDER
gtr
2021-01-22 12:43
I think my flair checks out
2021-01-22 12:43
Of course its gtr wtf how is this even a discussion
2021-01-22 12:44
3 replies
if we are talking only csgo it is a big one
2021-01-22 12:50
2 replies
but we aren't.. Not only that but even in csgo gtr still wins for being great for so long
2021-01-22 13:05
1 reply
Yes we are lol I made the thread. This is for my top then all time list in CSGO. but chill I chose GTR it is still very hard my friend
2021-01-22 13:08
Olof by far
2021-01-22 12:45
#62
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Azerbaijan lDarKl
self report
2021-01-22 12:52
Gtr best player in cs history.
2021-01-22 12:56
Olof peak but GTR overall legacy.
2021-01-22 12:58
4 replies
GeT_RiGhT was greater, olof was better
2021-01-22 12:58
honestly GTR 2012-2013 was way better then any of olofs best years
2021-01-22 13:09
2 replies
Nah, he was more ahead of the curve, sure but he wasn't a better player overall. He only improved individually in 2014 and 2015. It's just that other guys caught up
2021-01-22 13:10
1 reply
Maybe idk
2021-01-22 13:11
Device (4 Majors, 5-6 times top 5 player, most MVP's and 2 major MVP's) Cold (2 Times #1, 2 Majors, 8 MVP'S, 2 Major MVP's) Get Right (1 Major, 10 MVP, 2 Times #1 ) Olof (2 Major, 1 Major mvp, 6 MVP's) S1mple (11 MVP, 1 time #1, Dont even have to write why he is in the list) Zywoo(11 MVP, 2 time #1, Only played for 2 years) Niko, FalleN, Flusha, Krimz, Forest, Elige, Dupreeh, Magisk, Rain, Shoxie are some of the top players ever after these goats (These guys either dont have a major, or have less mvps or never in top 3) Just because of Majors and Major MVP's s1mple and zywoo are 5th and 6th if one of them wins a major ever, they directly move many players above. Get right below cold because of 1 less major and cold has 2 major mvp also and is highest rated player in majors (1.25)
2021-01-22 12:59
3 replies
honestly niko is in that conversation for me men together with all those other guys
2021-01-22 13:04
2 replies
Niko has never achieved HLTV #1 ranking, never won a major so i think he is in the same boat as of dupreeh, fallen, shox, flusha these guys atleast have majors
2021-01-22 13:10
1 reply
You are right that is why I fill is very tuff to make these lists. Niko outperformed these guys all the freaking time but he hasn't the wins the back it up. He is in the same level as cold skill wise but that does make a difference
2021-01-22 13:15
#79
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Europe featan
olof
2021-01-22 13:01
olof , getright is actually very overrated imo
2021-01-22 13:02
olofmeister ofc
2021-01-22 13:09
#97
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Ukraine alexftw
olof in csgo gtr overall in cs
2021-01-22 13:27
GeT_RiGhT obv.
2021-01-22 13:27
#99
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Mongolia k0ng0
Wtf is this thread? Of course GTR is waay ahead of Olof in an all time list. GTR was a legend in the game for 10+ years while Olof had 2-3 good years, and in one of them he was the best player in the world but then he lost motivation and faded quickly. GTR is one of the best players that ever touched CS while Olof was a really good player with an insane 1 year peek.
2021-01-22 13:29
#102
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Sweden Trkmag
GTR he is #1 or #2 AT competing with f0rest
2021-01-22 13:32
gtr ofc
2021-01-22 13:32
#105
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Poland Crai9Xen
In whole Cs its gtr ofc. but on the other hand if we are talking only about cs:go its gotta be Olof
2021-01-22 13:46
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