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Israel BLaCkKobRa 
10k$ fine? Really? Thats nothing for big orgs, they will probably so it again and try not to get caught. In my opinion it should be set to like 100k-200k$, then actually teams would think twice before trying to use any kind of cheating. What do u guys think?
2021-01-23 17:40
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yes set it to 200k and ruin small orgs that make mistakes
2021-01-23 17:41
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+1
2021-01-23 17:42
Uuups, I accidentally chiiited.
2021-01-23 17:42
"Small orgs", kek, so far the big ones getting caught with this kind of stuff, heroic, mibr, vitality. 10k$ is nothing for them. U dont understand this ammount create no intimidations, thats why teams keep doing this
2021-01-23 17:45
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esic litterally confirmed the vitality situation was an accident and that hte players had no clue the stream was even on
2021-01-23 17:46
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Ok.. sounds like the dumb excuse of "yes i had cheats installed but i didnt use them"
2021-01-23 17:48
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ok so?.. they literally didnt cheat and esic confirmed it so what the fuck is your problem
2021-01-23 17:49
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Dumb fans is my problem. Too blind to see it was wrong either way. This teams doing thay shit ruin the scene and balance. U think not tons of teams do it? Just small amount get busted.
2021-01-23 17:52
thats like completely different scenario
2021-01-23 18:11
just set it to 5 * player salary then
2021-01-23 17:45
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Yea that seems fair. Then the players would be strict about not using it. The thing is they cant prevent the org to not pay the players..
2021-01-23 17:48
agreed, they are winning way more and should be punished a lot harder for cheating
2021-01-23 17:41
i think it's okay, even because the stream has delay so doesn't impact that much and the tv was in another room and all. and 100k for a small org would be a lot
2021-01-23 17:42
HLTV on MIBR fine: OMG CHEATERS SO DISGUSTING BAN THEM HLTV on Vitality fined for the SAME reason: it had a 2 min delay omg so unfair! double standards, you love to see it
2021-01-23 17:44
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10k for a big org like vitality is like zywoo's pocket money for snacks baha
2021-01-23 17:45
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I agree, but the reactions are completely different. Read the comments on the article in which MIBR was fined and read the comments on Vitality's fine and you'll see what I mean.
2021-01-23 17:46
The difference is Dead was sitting infront of the stream monitor LUL
2021-01-23 18:01
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???????? Dead wasn't even on the team anymore lol. This happened with the new MIBR temporary team with Cogu as a coach. See, you don't even know the correct details and you're writing this.
2021-01-23 18:03
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I am talking about the stream sniping back with the old mibr. Not the Cogu thingy
2021-01-23 18:06
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Yeah but I'm talking about the Cogu incident because Vitality was fined for the same reason as MIBR: leaving the stream playing in the background. And the community comments are vastly different. That's my point. And btw, ESIC said that dead cheated for **ONE ROUND**. And everybody chose to ignore other teams and coaches that watched several rounds. Like I said, double standards.
2021-01-23 18:10
should've been 0 but ok
2021-01-23 17:45
+1, or disqualification from the tournament would hurt them a lot more than a money fine.
2021-01-23 17:45
Nobody used that stream so 10000$ is enough Its more like warning than punishment
2021-01-23 17:51
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
I agree payment and disqualification
2021-01-23 17:53
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World Beard43
I think it should be a significant portion of their winnings from the tournament. That way it can be applied to all tiers of professional competition. Given that Vitality could potentially win $600,000 from this tournament (and have already secured $50,000 at the very least) I completely agree that $10k is laughable.
2021-01-23 18:00
for 1 time is ok if they make it again 40k and for 3 time DQ for tournament+50k
2021-01-23 18:07
Do it again and try not to get caught ? Like let the TV in another room by mistake whitout getting caught ? x')
2021-01-23 18:12
I think they didnt mean this to be a real punishment its to give a warning to others trying to do this.After all they didnt technicly break rules since they didnt look at the screen but its breaks the spirit of the rule.
2021-01-23 18:15
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