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This roster looks so much better now, hopefully karrigan stays
2021-01-23 19:13
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yes he will stay unless FaZe kick Kjaerbye.
2021-01-23 19:14
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so you think +twistzz -olof?
2021-01-23 19:22
14 replies
probably, altho i dont want olof to leave
2021-01-23 19:22
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United States kami917
Olof wants to retire
2021-01-23 19:56
9 replies
+1
2021-01-23 19:57
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Pakistan hawrU
he should its better to retire from a tier-1 team than to get carried in tier 5
2021-01-23 19:59
7 replies
I think that Olof could still play in Tier 1 as a veteran but he just lost the will to play as a professional so I respect that he wants to retire and not beg cheques from the org
2021-01-23 20:17
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Pakistan hawrU
+1 Unlike some other pros
2021-01-23 22:46
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Canada Timings
Of course he could but he really wants to retire and I respect that.
2021-01-24 14:21
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Thats what I was saying. I respect he chose to retire and not do what people like Get_right did and also the ex VP players are doing and just using their names to bring in more and more money
2021-01-24 14:25
sounds like NEO and TaZ
2021-01-24 13:38
2 replies
Yeah, and also Fox and Friberg
2021-01-24 14:02
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Pakistan hawrU
and get_right should be the worst he announced that he will retire after esl cologne 2019, then he says no I will not retire after receiving all the Thank you videos then he actually retires and again receives all the thank you tweets and shit then he comes back from retirement and plays in dignitas and retire again after being benched by the org
2021-01-24 17:56
dont think olof wanted to stay
2021-01-23 19:23
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Slovakia xaboff
It's been said, either by him or cold, that he wants to retire
2021-01-23 19:25
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both have said that olof wants to retire
2021-01-23 19:30
i like you name
2021-01-23 19:15
1 reply
thx :DD
2021-01-23 19:21
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Netherlands TyStackz
Won't be wonder if dexter won't have a chance to go to Europe for some reason and they'll bring chrisJ back.
2021-01-23 19:15
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Finland ManLikeRopz
hahahahaha classic -+chrisJ
2021-01-23 19:20
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I preferred -styko +styko
2021-01-23 19:33
Yes best roster move of all time -bongj +bongj. So good that allready happened like 4 times.
2021-01-24 13:35
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Netherlands TyStackz
I remember two times, when oskar replaced him in 2017, but then NiKo was sold to FaZe and he came back, and when they dropped their 2018 core, leaving only ropz & oskar, but later replacing oskar on chrisJ, bringing new trio karrigan, woxic & frozen. What were another 2?
2021-01-24 15:47
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I was just joking, but im pretty sure that he was benched at least 3 times, dont remember third tho.
2021-01-24 16:46
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Estonia |imperator
karrigan goes to FaZe in a month
2021-01-23 19:16
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France FanchD
I really hope they can keep Karrigan now, they got so much more potential with Acor now
2021-01-23 19:24
27 replies
exactly what i am thinking
2021-01-23 19:55
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United States kami917
Broky > acor Rain = bymas Twistzz < ropz Kjaerbye < frozen Cold > karrigan Faze would get to their ceiling quicker with karrigan calling but mouse has a load more potential. Either place he decides to go should be fairly successful for him.
2021-01-23 20:00
24 replies
rain = bymas ??
2021-01-23 20:03
22 replies
Bymas has potential but he is definitely no rain lmao
2021-01-23 20:18
21 replies
this is not 2017/2018 rain tho
2021-01-23 22:50
20 replies
Bymas under karrigan is okay nothing amazing. Rain under karrigan was insane. Rain just needs an IGL to be good again. I believe anyways. Besides Bymas needs a few years before he peaks where as rain can peak again now
2021-01-23 22:53
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Faze will be a lot less stacked if karrigan comes back than it was it was before. And thats a lot of space missing. Rain might be better under karrigan again but lets not forget he wasnt beacon of consistency when faze was really good. I think you are overhyping him. Also even karrigan said that bymas is like cleaner, faster version of rain.
2021-01-23 22:55
18 replies
In 3 years I think Bymas has potential to be better than Rain but right now he isnt. Bymas might be more mechanical than rain but Rain has the experience that makes him the better player. And is also pretty good mechanically
2021-01-24 13:17
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Yes but entry fraggers work a lot better if someone makes room elsewhere its simple logic. And which team would be better at it. Mouz with better awper, better rifler, better lurker, or faze which lets be honest would have trouble staying in top 20 right now.
2021-01-24 13:19
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Faze have Coldzera who Karrigan could really bring back as he plays a loose style similar to what Fallen did in colds prime. Rain who Karrigan got alot out of the first time and admitted he loves playing under Karrigan. Broky who has been playing well without a good IGL, Karrigan can get more out of him. And either Twistzz or Kjaerbye who I think again Karrigan could revitalize either of them. Mouz have good players but theyll never have the potential to break into number 1. Acor hasnt peaked yet he is scared to play like a carry. Chris was their veteran now he is gone they have too many youngsters. And thats too much for them to cope with
2021-01-24 13:29
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Let me put it like this. In Faze you have basically 3 ifs if karrigan joins. In mouz you have 1, I hope faze is willing to pay a lot more than mouz since its a lot bigger risk you cant argue that.
2021-01-24 13:30
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I think Mouse right now is just as big a risk if not more. 4 youngsters on a team sure Ropz has more experience but he is still fairly young. Compared to FaZe which is majority veterans with the exception of Broky
2021-01-24 13:57
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Yes but in mouz you know you are good tight now and most of the players can only get better meanwhile faze is big pile of ifs. This to me feels like TOG tank project.
2021-01-24 14:03
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Mouse are a bigger if imo. He has not had success with them and changing one player is less likely to bring success than a change of team BUT the change of team can backfire ofcourse but the risk is worth while
2021-01-24 14:05
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He had success with this mouz already. With chris on AWP and bymas doing school.
2021-01-24 14:06
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I wouldnt say he had success since LAN. Theyve been okay but never anything id consider success. They had some good moments but never consistent
2021-01-24 14:09
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We will see but from what i am seeing faze looks a lot more riskier than mouz. Maybe you are optimistic about faze and i am not. But at this point i think we both said what we think and we would be running in circles.
2021-01-24 14:10
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Yeh thats true just one last point though look at Mouse recent games. They have only beat BIG since October not including tier 2 teams. So interesting how they will play with Acor but since Karrigan doesnt seem interested in re-signing I think we can both agree they maybe shouldve considered benching Karrigan and making Chris the IGL
2021-01-24 14:12
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Hard to say thats orgs business maybe they saw opportunity to sell chris for bigger ammount and that would make acor and dexter "cheaper" . But i have no clue why they decided to do this.
2021-01-24 14:15
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Would be interesting to see the reasoning behind this. They must have some faith Karrigan might stay because if they were sure he was to leave then it wouldnt make sense to bench Chris before they have someone to replace him. I know Chris has been very underwhelming but atleast they cant wield a 5 man lineup where as they are risking losing an IGL now
2021-01-24 14:17
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I know what you mean. Maybe they want to cut chris off or already signed dexter but havent announced it yet. where are polish leaks when you need them.
2021-01-24 14:18
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Yeh interesting debate to say the least. Appreciate you not being the average HLTV user and instead actually talked. Talking about leaks, this off season has been so boring. I expected way more roster changes
2021-01-24 14:19
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2021 was pretty interesting so far new BR teams. Liquid, navi signing bit, furia, etc. for 1 month we had a lot of changes
2021-01-24 14:21
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The liquid move wasnt really that shocking more so that Twistzz left than fallen joining. Furia was leaked so early it wasnt really interesting. Navi signing BIT was boring. I wanted to see like FaZe make changes leading to changes to changes ect
2021-01-24 14:25
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Faze will make changes, it just wasnt announced and leaked yet. Also it deffinetly was more interesting than 2020 in roster changes already i think.
2021-01-24 14:27
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Switzerland Akke17
wtf
2021-01-24 14:17
jup
2021-01-23 20:27
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Czech Republic sinko1
+1
2021-01-23 19:24
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Slovakia xaboff
I would literally fucking cum if he stayed
2021-01-23 19:26
2 replies
Same. Would be a sick lineup.
2021-01-23 19:28
+1
2021-01-23 19:55
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Ireland cawley2
dexter is going to mouz
2021-01-23 19:31
#17
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Estonia theHeniek
Omg guys i have to watch MOUZ in monday
2021-01-23 19:33
1 reply
+1
2021-01-23 21:50
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Far more potential with this roster than those Faze guys if Karrigan stays.
2021-01-23 19:34
2 replies
thats what i´m thinking. maybe the acor signing will change karrigans decision
2021-01-23 21:50
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Hopefully it does!
2021-01-23 21:55
+1 Mouz has much more potential then FaZe, plus FaZe have plenty of other options for IGLs, right now I'd recommend MSL
2021-01-23 19:58
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Poland pimaZo
From one perspective karrigan in this team will be good. From other dexter is soooooooooooo good and I will love him in strong EU lineup. For both of them this squad will be the best option
2021-01-23 19:59
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Germany mainak90
Dexter is a solid fragger but i have doubts on his reading capabilities of top tier european igls like glaive, karrigan, aleksib or even apex.
2021-01-23 20:12
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Poland pimaZo
His team domineated his region. It isn't easy w/o good IGL. Pluse he had some good showns in EU, one Major for example. Ofc it is a gamble but it could be worthy
2021-01-23 20:15
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well his region consists of tier 4 teams... If Karrigan leaves, he is the best replacement, although itz should be hard leaving everything behind...
2021-01-23 21:49
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Germany DiegoHu
Would be a gamble ... especially after chrisj leaving who could have supported dexter to adapt quicker to t1 cs.. but anyway .. if Karrigan decides to leave .. I’ll love to see dexter getting his chance!
2021-01-24 13:41
Karrigan will not stay
2021-01-23 19:59
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Jordan Zereeni
nice name lul
2021-01-23 20:00
1 reply
thanks haha
2021-01-23 21:49
+1
2021-01-23 20:01
+1
2021-01-24 13:32
Dexters joining instead of Karrigan then Karrigan's going faze chrisJ's joining FPX with the old godsent roster
2021-01-24 13:37
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Other M@GNU5
legend still says that G2 will lose against stand-ins forever
2021-01-24 14:30
Agreed
2021-01-24 14:30
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