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I don't understand why people want to remove FalleN from Liquid already.
His first game with Liquid was against Na Vi (3rd best team in the world) and they beat them rather convincingly on Inferno and pull out a narrow win on Nuke (s1mple's best map AND a map FalleN didn't play previously in his career) This was a massive improvement from when they had Twistzz.
2nd game with Liquid he is up against Vitality (2nd best team in the world), FalleN is the top of the leaderboard for Liquid and honestly they might have won the match if Shox wasn't going insane, unfortunate game but still a decent showing from Liquid, small improvements in their mid-game honestly could have won them that match.
3rd game is against Evil Geniuses, and they beat them comfortably on both maps, just a great solid showing from Liquid.
4th game is against Na Vi (again the 3rd best team in the world) and they barely lost the match, and while FalleN didn't have a great game to say the least on Na Vi's side B1t stepped up massively on Inferno for Na Vi and Flamie went absolutely nuts for Na Vi on Nuke. It was a great game from both sides, and Team Liquid should be satisfied with this run, a 'new' team's debut in a world-class tournament with only topped teams, and they finished top 4.
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Makes sense, thanks for the clarification
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are you okay?
shouldnt have been added in the first place
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+1
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you're acting like they'll get good results haha
plus FalleN calling Leaf a cheater made it so I probably will never support him
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Still think he was wrong on doing it. Stewie did it also, and Tarik too.
Never got why leaf left CS tho and went to Valorant since he is 16 and was such an amazing promise. And quiting like this so fast dont make sense to me.
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He left because NA CS is dying, there is only 2 stable orgs in NA, it's EG and Liquid and both of them probably not looking for players anytime soon + it might be weird to hear but some player like Valorant as much as CS or even more, it's easier to become pro because the game is new also NA Valo scene is probably the most stable scene actually and players are paid as much as on CS
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he tweeted saying that leaf was suspicions, and when vanity confronted fallen about calling leaf a cheater, fallen asked if he had ever played in the same room as him
does that sound like someone who doesnt think he cheated and just thinks it looked weird?
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Proof?
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it was in vanity's richard lewis interview, give me a little to find it
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lol
Till this day Fallen, his line and the whole brazilian community think that leaf and xeppa were cheating. More leaf than xeppa, actualy. Nothing is gonna change that. I myself have doubts - of course I'm not gonna be sending death threats or going to their dms but it's what I think until proven otherwise.
Leaf is a lost cause to Valorant but let's see if xeppa repeats his super high class gameplay in LAN tournaments in C9 and maybe shut everybody up.
LOL that’s so pepega, there’s a difference by accusing someone of being suspicious and thinking they are cheating, fallen asking if vanity ever played with leaf in the same room is actually a well thought out question that probably never came across vanity’s mind if they never played in the same room before
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*circle of life
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life cycle is a more scientific term for circle of life
circle of live is bad englando
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How is your Portuguese?
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1. Portuguese is not my second language, Spanish is
2. I wasn't calling his english bad, I was saying that "circle of live" is bad (I meant incorrect in the context) english
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English speakers always do this. Make fun of other with the "bad englando".
Bet your spanish is not flawless.
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I’m not making fun of him I’m correcting him you muppet
Chill out bro idk why you care so much
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I'm very chill. i like muppets.
Well TwistZz-chan OwO had to go sadly, it was clear that it just wasn't working with him on the team, he was having little to no impact on the server. FalleN is an AWPer, an experienced IGL, and a solid rifler. Why not get him? I don't like the choice to let Stewie2k IGL still, but that is still open to change. The only guy they could pick up who is better then falleN from my view is GOAT Xizt.
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they should've just bought a coach and then an awper like oSee or Acor
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Moses I think still needs time as a coach, and Osee is so god damn overrated smh. Acor is a great player but Mouz has him now, and honestly he might not have even wanted to move to NA.
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why is oSee overrated? dude's insane
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He sucks balls man, same thing with Wardell (when he used to play CS). I mean these guys just aren't that good.
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oSee is better than wardell was, and Liquid was planning to pick up wardell over grim anyways
oSee has insane aim, pretty good positioning, can show up against good teams, and is still young so he can improve a lot
there's a reason henryG wanted to keep him
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Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. And I didn't hear about that.
Rifling he isn't much, AWPing he is above average in NA and below average internationally. 1.05 HLTV rating against Top 20 opponents in his career... as a 'star' AWPer. And I don't see what you mean by "pretty good positioning".
Because HenryG is an idiot?
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in 2020 he had a 1.10 against top 10 players
why look at how good a player was and not how good he is?
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2019 0.93 rating against top 20, and 1.07 rating against top 20 in 2020. And this isn't for a support player or IGL, this is a AWPer. That is just horrible.
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why look at how good a player was in 2019 and not how good he is recently?
plus fallen had a 1.02 rating against top 10 in 2020 and oSee had a rating of 1.10 against top 10 teams in 2020
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FalleN was IGLing and playing for a team that kept being put up against top teams and he was put with a rather crappy team. Also FalleN's rating for 2020 against top 10 teams is 0.00 ;)
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hltv.org/stats/players/2023/fallen?start..
he had 25 maps against top 10 teams but okay
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Ranking filter: all
hltv.org/stats/players/2023/fallen?start..
Do it like this ;)
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that's incorrect because he faced faze which was a top 10 team at the time
hltv.org/matches/2343393/mibr-vs-faze-es..
I think that means teams that are top 10 right now, which is much different because skill levels change
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"why look at how good a player was and not how good he is?"
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shit point, there's a difference between a couple months and 2 years
Also nevertheless FalleN had a 1.05 rating in 2020 (according to that match against FaZe) and hltv.org/stats/players/13249/osee?startD..
Osee has never played a top 10 team in 2020
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Liquid fans don't grasp the fundamental truths of trolling, and so I doubt that
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His debut was solid, the match against Vitality he did wonderful, the game against EG he really showed us just what he is capable of, and the game against Na Vi was rather unfortunate
.89 vs top 3 team in the world ain't even bad
people just hatin
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Damn it mens I think I got high on acid and am seeing things
They're just baiting, attention whores
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Well wtf I bait and am an attention whore
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+1 whoever made this post is great!
+1 Overall decent performance, they've only lost to great teams so far.
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Expected a brazilian flag, maybe ill actually read this for once
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Thank you
It took NaVi one game to figure out how to play around Fallen and then they crushed him.
He is outdated and predictable.
What did u expect from HLTV?
Unless u make faze 2017 then ur roster is shit
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Actually you need NiP from 2012 or you are shit. See the second you lose a map, even if it is close you are complete dog shit at CS
oh well its too soon to kick him since they already picked him but imo they had better options for an awper...
if fallen will average 1.05 rating as main awper then i dont see liquid being good again(i know that it was first even with this team...just saying !if!)
I think we should wait and watch, liquid needs a primary awper and an experienced person who can do some IGL role in times it needed. So from my perspective it's a descent choice to have Fallen in team.
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