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Valve has finally fixed crappy money system a while ago
Most of the maps have been rebalanced and remade
Weapons are quite balanced now as well
Players have discovered 99% of exploits, glitches and nearly all of them are fixed today
Maps have been ouplayed and there are no secrets in maps
Gotta feeling there isn't much they can do to improve the game. What's worth mentioning is that some gaps are already filled by 3rd party vendors (FaceIt) like better queue, mappicking, anty cheat or 128 tr so even if Valve decides to step in and implement that, they would just invent a wheel once again.
Time's ticking, new games are being released constantly and CS will eventually turn as an outdated product. And maybe it already did. Or maybe perfection has been already reached?
idk everyone thought the game was bouta die a few years ago so its kinda unpredictable
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consistently number 1 game on steam by a lot, skin prices keep increasing, esports getting bigger and bigger and prize pools increasing, more and more updates recently etc.
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Euros love this game for some reason. Literally no one else plays it though.
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brazil and CiS plays it a LOOOOT too, NA just bad so move to valorant
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CIS are Euros.
Game's pretty much dead in Brazil lmao. Even Brazilians are saying it. You're so desperate you're categorizing Europeans and CIS separately. lol.
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????? CiS includes central asian countries near russia, and how is the game dead in brazil, whenever i see gaules this cunt has like 100k+ viewers
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Amerikano doesnt know geography outside the US
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American education OMEGALUL
Lol ’murican cheeseburger geography. Kazakhstan, france, russia, germany, azerbaijan - it’s all the same really.
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Okay I was wrong about Kazakhstan and a few other countries, but 90+% AT LEAST of CIS players are Euros.
Is that more acceptable?
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oh dude you are big retard
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Yeah I think that would be you dude.
So you're telling me players from siberia, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, etc... make up more than 10% of CIS CSGO players.
Most Russians live in Europe, Ukraine is in Europe, Belarus in in Europe, etc....
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Lol I don't think that's true man.
The largest player base outside of Europe in CIS is Kazakhstan. I'm not even sure if Kazakh players would make even 10% of the amount of people that play in Russia.
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In what way is my country European?
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Error on my part, this should correct it. Having a few Asian CIS areas that play CS doesn't really make it alive in Asia or anything like that tbf.
It's still only really alive in Europe.
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As an Asian, CSGO is very much more alive than Valorant.
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Valorant is trash though, not saying much.
Dude in india cs is pretty dead
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Asia = China as well.
Also, no PC game is truly alive in India.
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Yes, you only have microsoft refund departments there
Esports yes, as a game far from it
We still get mm games within 30 seconds to 1 minute of queuing for ranks below SMFC, so casual playerbase is pretty massive. Faceit isnt as popular since we only have sea servers nearby but we have other 3rd party platforms that are as popular as faceit in eu and na
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Btw he's fakeflagging. Dude's Indian.
Sstk isn't that popular tho is it?
Yes and I agree the player base hasn't decreased
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Is it as popular as when the game got that Neymar shout out?
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Ah okay I see. Thank you for the clarification.
Then, I guess it's alive in Europe and Brazil. Pretty respectable, but the game definitely lost NA.
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Oh no! NA, the greatest region to ever touch CS has been lost. A real tragedy.
rekt
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Lmao.
It was a polite conversation dude.
CIS are euros LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NA education really showed itself that time. Nobody cares about NA you have 2 teams that are even worth mentioning even tho esports is a lot bigger in the us then in bumfuck kazakhstan and yet y'all still suck asscheeks. We didn't loose NA. NA lost the game. I guess your puny brains were not cut out for cs.
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I think that's you bro.
I've already been corrected and the game isn't at the level of hype it was at in 2016.
And nice edited comment, wanna tell me what it said?
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Every american on here plays csgo. Youre roasting nobody. ur just mad the greatest economy in the world doesn't give a shit about ur only hobby
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best culture best money
If that's the case, how is it top 1 on steam.
Nice education!
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Mb only NINETY PERCENT of CIS players are Euros.
cis, euro, and sa are pretty big but all the other regions are pretty fucking small
really wondering if valorant will overtake cs.
it's already bigger than csgo in na and asia, uncertain how it will develop in the big cs regions like eu or sa.
Name one game that would have global community so that regions would have similar level of interest?
Different games are loved by different regions, even if there are of course players globally.
Europe has CS.
Korea has Starcraft.
USA has COD / Overwatch? i dont know :D
China LoL / dota2? :D
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League, even though it's shit, is popular everywhere. And CS is supposed to be a premier esport, not a regional game.
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And it is, there are still a shit ton of american players. Only region that's weak rn is asia. NA could be looking bad if even more go to valulrant but the NA scene is still pretty good, only thing misssing is the orgs. that's why they're going to valorant, because there are no orgs willing to take the risk during covid
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I stopped playing a while ago, but picked it up recently and got rank decayed.
Gn4 is full of ten years vets with an ESEA at B to A and hackers. It's absolutely dead in NA.
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idgaf about ur experience, NA cs is not dead at all lmao
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It's not my experience, it's mine and everyone else I know who plays CSGO's experience as well.
But, you can think what you want lmao.
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Quick checkup seems that Asia mainly china and south korea has 25 spots in the top4 of lol world championships in all of the competitions held. Chinese or Korean team has won every title since 2011 (first wc).
Rest of the world has 15 spots in the top4 and one win in 2011.
So in my mind that is pretty dominated by Asia. Even if there are of course millions of players around the world.
typical american thinking america = the only country in the world
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Burgers just trash so they play burgerant
you're actually brain dead
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That would definitely be you lmao.
You think people in Asia are playing, NA, Africa, SA (except Brazil), etc...
Nope it's just Europe and Brazil.
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Meant to comment on "cis are euros" and you're still brain dead.
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100% still you dude. lol.
Correction: 90+% of CIS CSGO players are Euros. Do you want to waste time nitpicking other stuff or is that it?
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burger geography btw.
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Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Siberia, etc... more than 10% of CIS players XD.
Dude they're maybe 5%, perhaps not even that. When I say CIS are Euros in reference to CSGO, I'm thinking of the 95%+.
There are parts of Finland in Scandinavia, but do we call Finland Scandinavian? Nope.
BR talking about dead
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what is the point of this comment
Where did u buy your brain?
Tell me so i can report that seller for scam
0/8 nt
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why would anyone fall onto this bait i feel bad for them what kind of cs hater has a whole hltv account lol
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Wtf I would think 0/8, but so many fell for it. Maybe a 5/8 then
csgo is huge in SEA
I don't think the game will die, but rather we won't see anymore big improvements/meta changes regarding the game anymore, until valve decides to keep stuff fresh by reworking stuff. Right now, and that i agree with the original poster, it's arguably the best version of counter-strike:go we ever had, and there is not much to really be unhappy regarding the state of the game.
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except the stale active map pool for the spectators (ideally it would change at the very least one map per year as minimum, maximum 2 maps a year though, something like every 7-8 months ideally to keep the mind fresh, even pro teams have asked for it, kinda dunno what Valve is playing there LUL). But besides that it's in a good shape, ideally would buff krieg by the smallest margin to make it ever so slightly more useful unscoped but not more useful than AK.
ikr like i started Csgo in October 2017 so that's over 3 years now literally back then people said the game is dying or game is dead smh people from day one been saying this game is dead yet it continues to be one of the most played games in the PC World and the Skin Empire continues to grow
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just bring back cobble wtf
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it will return, obviously but not this time :( poles and brazilians love this map
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everybody except Nooov4
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and I said it’s only the poles and the Brazilians?
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VP - SK is a legendary matchup, germans didnt have proper team back then
cobble is shit, better to just make new maps
But first they need to revamp it again
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Maybe dust 2 instead of mirage?
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really? im gonna sell my talon knife ultra violet soon
That is really what I hate about CS, the whole fucking esports scene is only as big as it is because of the skins and betting. Pretty sad honestly.
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CS is by far the esport that is the most dependant on the skin market and gambling.
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it's new to me that football is an ''esport''
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give me examples then,
and no, my point still stands, cs is by far the esports that is the most dependant on skins, gambling. betting
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legalsportsreport.com/esports-betting/
betting volume per game, lol - 38%, cs - 29%
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bad point, league of legends is the worlds biggest game and esports, so naturally more people will bet on those matches, and even then it's still a close competition, besides that you only provided a single source, pretty sure the numbers will look a lot different if you actually look for more sources
also you only talk about betting, imagine csgo and league without any skins whatsoever, which game would die and which one will be alive?
the answer is quite easy.
also you don't talk about gambling at all.
90% of csgo vids on youtube are sponsored by gambling sites.
''use my code for free 50 cents'' blabla
on top of that there are actual csgo tournaments hosted by fucking gambling sites, hellcase cup for example
why are you even trying to continue this argument, you clearly can't win
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yea you are not even trying to disprove any of my points
ez win
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it's okay lol
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I hate having to hit 3 shots with deag mid range
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different guns with different purposes
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Doesn't really work like that this easily with cs mechanics
youtu.be/5tHYmIgZJuM?t=257
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phillip does make good points, however...
in terms of accuracy: you shouldnt have to crouch with the deagle for it to be reliable (at least accurately). i feel like it should reward counter strafing.
for the damage: it forces the user to go for the head, which is what the gun should be about.
Just add more skins to make game feel fresh :-)
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I am part time fortune teller, 32k/month
Bruh if maps were COMPLETELTY balanced cs would be so boring. Map vetoes wouldn't be as exciting because they wouldn't matter as much side you started on. For example, part of what makes watching nuke interesting is knowing the team that picks into the map is running the risk of starting on the harder side.
I think pros still don't take advantage of some odd weapons, like the Negev for example, and I think valve will still make some changes, I expect deagle changes for 2021
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no it's been used in pro plays a few times, the rules must've changed or maybe it was different rules for a specific tournament
afaik it's allowed now, JW and gla1ve used it last year
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JW 3k was funny as shit lol
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men :(
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I think negev could be used better for low econ rounds to slow the pace, if you get a negev crossfire on B inferno with a smoke down when the enemy execute you could do a lot of damage with not that much invested. I just think that there could be more pocket strats taking advantage of more guns. Also I am still salty of how no one was using the sg and aug before they changed the price and everyone complained after but never tried to utilise those guns before
negev can actually help sometimes, shotguns also. You shouldn't be stuck on only rifles and pistols. These weapons can give you advantage also.
$1700 for a smoke spamming death cannon though
same as football or ping pong or netball or any other game. csgo will keep evolving people will keep coming up with new lil tricks and new ways to win
... alot can still be fixed .. just get beter you will see alot of stuf in global games ... like smokes baggs, flames ... you can peak on nades insted of flashes .. the decoy is really not used that much .. pros don´t swtich right to left hand in game much and so on ... sooo many posibilities it is less but from my playstlye like 75% was fixed so still few stuf left,
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Make new maps and gamemodes (by that I mean just take it from community)
according to IGN valve has acouple of games that are waiting for anouncement...Maybe a new CS?
ign.com/articles/gabe-newell-says-valve-..
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PLS NO
As long as theres electricity its not gonna die, the games just much more than just a game
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also a platform for many low skilled impoverished people to make a quick buck provided their game makes it to hltv. and also low tier na players
The fact that people are still playing 1.6 today innately proves CS:GO won't be dying anytime soon...
Source is dead but not many people initially liked Source anyway.
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no way jonty with chaos flair
iwish:(
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I'm just "Jonty", friend. :)
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yo jonty, as a NiP fan what do you think of the new logo?
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There is a reason 1.6 tournaments dominated up until CS:GO was released and Source wasn't.
Let's compare S-Tier tournaments, shall we?
liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tour..
- 2011: 10 tournaments, 9 are 1.6 and 1 is Source.
- 2010: 12 tournaments, all of them are 1.6...
- 2009: 16 tournaments, all of them are 1.6...
- 2008: 15 tournaments, 14 are 1.6 and 1 is Source.
- 2007: 16 tournaments, 13 are 1.6 and 3 are Source...
- 2006: 17 tournaments, all of them are 1.6...
- 2005: 14 tournaments, 13 are 1.6 and 1 is Source
We will skill 2004 as that is when Source originally released, it would be unfair to make any points at that time.
You might find more Source games in the A-Tier category, but Source is dead and has been for a very long time.
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We will skip 2004*
My apologies.
source isnt dead though
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There may very well still be players but not as much as 1.6...
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7th or something time that CS dies, RIP feel bad for them my condolences to the family, really waiting for the 8th time
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Haha
I dont care tbh, cs has been so boring since like 2016/17, new maps dont do it for me, 5v5 has become so boring that nowadays i mainly players 1v1 arenas to chill, they need a big thing like source 2 or something
Nah not even close - getting csgo'd is still a thing - we are still miles away from full optimisation of the game - never mind how it's played.
Also their hasn't been an excellent (read: genius) map creator to design well balanced, timeless maps for a while - vertigo is crap tbh because the way mid is incorporated is essentially to the b site - they need to make a way of it being an alternative route to A as well (I'm not a map creator) for a plethora of strategies to be made and make the map more "CS like"
There's loads of things that can be done
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just make it so that suiciding gives you $1000 extra
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runboost suicides give full refund on all your purchases! we will be seeing crazy shit where 2 people get runboosted off the edge, one guy stands on top of the other mid-air and hits a perfectly accurate scout shot standing on a T.
They need to fix the casual side of the game.
Better anti-cheat
Maybe different maps every 6 months?
The game is alright, I certainly wouldn't play any other one.
Balnce wise its pretty much perfect, just have to have less irrelevant guns like the m249 and give it a purpose.
And fix maps
Lmao people ask that from like 2-3 years back
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ye, if they make majors consistent 2-3 mil with more team merchandise and source 2 engine and 128 tick servers gonna be amazing
its an impossible task to kill this game
CS 1.6's competitive scene lasted for 12 years. Taking into consideration how games are handled now (massive updates to the current games, rather than releasing a new often), CS:GO will die only when Valve will want that to happen imho
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+1 the reason cs is good because of its fundamentals, it won't ever die
I think it is around its peak. There is still stuff that could be balanced (bizon, m249, autosnipers maybe) and all maps aren't perfect either. It definitely won't die anytime soon, but valve still needs to think of something new and exhiliarating
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+Bizon is good anti-hero p90 is the upgraded bison that penetrates armour.
+m249 needs to cost less.
+Autosniper needs to lower damage, make recoil harder to control the more shots fired, keep headshots as 1 hit kill. Pretty much like a high recoil deagle with a scope, it will be faster but weaker than a scout whilst remaining the headshot damage, not cheap but also not a 1 hit like a AWP.
i mean, the economy is still a bit broken, it favours t side so much to the point where t's can buy ak's after losing pistol and ct's can only buy smg+armour at most.
The game isn't quit finish, the VAC system is clearly unefficient so they need to work on it. Currently at LEM, their is at least one cheater in every game I play even if I have a good trust factor! This is the main reason why people at hight elo are either quitting or playing Faceit. But I don't think most of the people are ready to pay monthly for something that the game is already supose to do.
nice mm,faceit,esea servers when everyones fps just drops to 100 for round or so, good pixel boosts on the maps, like how csgo is micro lagging with good fps and stable internet connection it happens the first seconds you join the game lmao what is this game i like it but i cant fix it and i dont work in volvo 5employee company good MAP OPTIMIZATION THANKS FOR GOOD FPS ON CASUAL MAPS very nice that DM servers really doesnt exist on maps like NUKE AND TRAIN because we will be playing on 100-150 fps with 18players a lot to do
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they won't take mirage out because it is one of the favorite maps for a lot of players - which would almost be an invite to try Valorant
Skill-wise the ceiling have been reached already.
Other games already bursted through that skill-ceiling and you can get much better than CSGO at.
Competitively speaking, CSGO is like Checkers in a world that just discovered Chess. It will always be fun and probably won't die out so fast, but not the game people go to to search depth and the best FPS players.
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This is the average cs player and viewers understanding. But in fact, it is not so
Truthfully, cs is more chess than any other shooter you can come up with though - at the higher levels where the strat callers are literally moving pieces around the board to create an opening. You may fail to understand that in checkers, pieces move only forward, but in cs, players can turn back and create diversions, fakes etc. CS is the chess of shooters my friend
if cs is checkers, what would be chess?
Enough with making maps pretty, find a proper fix for the shitty mm system they have in place.
I played a match yesterday where I got 4 toxic indians while all my opponents were literally globals.
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You got that right. Sometimes they join the Dubai server and I can already tell that I'll lose the match. Just play faceit honestly. Stopped playing mm long time ago
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I did buy faceit for a month last year but all my friends had stopped playing it so I also ended up not renewing my sub.
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Are you fake flagging? Because we can play together if you want. I'm faceit level 6 right now
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I'm not fake flagging but I'm not renewing my faceit sub because my laptop is just too shit to run cs properly rn so yeah :/ (dedicated graphics card stopped working)
Some good and bad ideas.
+ 128 tick servers to unify grenade throws and better hit reg Premium match making for all as well.
+ Official Weekly Ladders for Solo and 5 man games with rewards based on position at ladder end(Basically faceit premium)
+ Community Server Browser Update for easier gamemode/map mode searches.
+ Change Agency/Office to Defuse gamemode for official map pool.
+ Trial 7v7 and 10v10 competative.
+ Planning Map at Start of round. (Similar to Due Process, I thought it was a good idea)
+ Source 2
+ Rotating community map pool for competitive.
+ Anti-Smurf smart learning ai that uses statistics to find irregularities.
+ Crosshair options to further customise.
+ Better match making to avoid unfair games based on ranks.
+VACNET to be usable to VAC ban instead of overwatch ban
+Update default player models to align with the newer variants.
+More coop missions
+ 5 man coop missions
+Official player made team creation/landing page/statistics/upcoming games
+ Team Vs Team ladders... where teams get matches/best of 3's and be assigned matches on certain days/weeks based on ranks/brackets... like a tournament.
+Official Aimlab type training modes.
Third party integration
+better integration to faceit/esea/vevo
+discord integration
Allow esports orgs to have an official approved skin for a few weapons that players can subscribe to for free or a fee. This will allow Astralis/vitality/navi to allow players to use a M4/AK skin with their logo. Allows people to support orgs and represent without actually owning skins, skins could be updated via seasons and what not, like a seasonal kit.
I honestly dunno how hard that would be to implement... but stickers are too small to be useful.
I don't agree. I still think cs can grow even more than it is today and we'll be seeing a lot more structured teams like astralis. Imagine seeing 5 or 6 astralis like teams fighting for the same major. Also it all depends on valve obviously and I hope valve atleast increases the prize pool for majors somehow
The next year is pretty pivotal for the growth of cs. NA is moving away from cs to easier games/"the next big thing-games" and paychecks since the success never came for them in cs. A lot of competition is going to be based around the european leagues and prize pots will more than likely decrease. The only place for serious growth is asia and as far as making business its a shit show atm with match fixing and fairly low skill level. :()
The next year is pretty pivotal for the growth of cs. NA is moving away from cs to easier games/"the next big thing-games" and paychecks since the success never came for them in cs. A lot of competition is going to be based around the european leagues and prize pots will more than likely decrease. The only place for serious growth is asia and as far as making business its a shit show atm with match fixing and fairly low skill level. :()
the game can always improve by buffing unused guns, and rebalancing more commonly used weapons, plus they can always add new maps into the comp pool, as well as revamp some maps to keep the meta ever evolving. Once they get through this quality of life phase they have theyll end up tackling more bigger projects in the game.
counterstrike will never be outdated no game till now is such good liek cs go its perfect.
its easy to understand its perfect in camera its perfect in aiming.
if u play others games the aiming is shit like hell even if the cs go aimboxes sometimes are shit but when u aim u aim not like in cod or others its feels like i dont know crappy shit :D ^^
source2 need
cs is stale as shi. Add back in Cobble, Add Tuscan. Make it more spicy. Its bland.
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Completely wipe the map pool and add 7 new maps 3 months before the major and make the major the first event that these maps are played to see the crazy creative stuff too teams create and watch a new meta form based on the new maps
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You're suggesting an extreme solution but I agree that at least 4 maps being switched would help a lot to bring a new feeling to the game.
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It’s extreme of course if I would keep 3 maps I would keep vertigo nuke and overpass
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Fair enough
Money system is shite lose the pistols and you're in the same/better financial position than the team who won it makes no sense
Glass ceiling? That term doesn't mean what you think it means
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thing is MOBAs need that type of updates because the skill in those games is about knowledge of the meta, memorizing etc. while the skill in CS mostly (like 90%) comes down to fine motor skills and reflex times. if the meta stayed the same in mobas it would've became stale in one year, but the meta can stay the same in CS because you can always get better at your aiming
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CS has been extremely stale for more then a year it feels like. Even the operation was kinda blah... The online era really exposed how stale it’s become cause we’re use to international LANs or whatever. But, getting better at ur aim or smoke setups on the same maps is pretty boring imo. Unless your competing at a high level where the tournament circuit would be exciting.
However; the pro scene is just the same EU/CIS teams battling it out. Thank GOD a few NA & SA teams moved to EU to make it exciting. Idk... I find myself barely playing and only watching finals cause to me... It’s gotten pretty stale.
But hey, that’s my take.
zeus skins
So many mad fanboys inhaling that copium that their favorite game isn't dying.
NA scene all to Valorant.
BR is a meme.
CIS has 1 good team.
More and more teams disband because salaries are too high and tournament winnings don't count for shit.
All tier 1 events are 3-4 EU teams vs NaVi basically, lmao. Say bye bye to your favorite game, kiddies.
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No good NA players left the scene
The scene never relied on BR being relevant
CIS is getting better and better
The scene is healthy, cry is free toxic boy
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The hater fuel tho. People like you were saying this same shit 3 years ago and the game has only grown
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''Grown'' lmfao, yeah man, 150k viewers grand final of tier 1 1mil prize events (2015 it was 1,2 million just on Twitch), no majors, teams disbanding, smallest tier 1 scene it has ever had other than when it started, players moving to Valulrant,
Yeah. ''Grown''. And don't list me Steam charts shit when it's inflated by everyone being home all the time due to Covid.
Say goodbye to your favorite game. :)
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By your logic every esport is dying because there are no major events. 2015 had Majors 2020 didnt you cant compare the two. Tier 1 scene is def better than it was in 2018 when it was literally just Astralis and sometimes Liquid so I dont know how you can make claims like that
And you cant use COVID as an argument for the charts going up and then ignore for why viewership is slightly lower. Obv people get more hyped for LANs than online, doesnt mean the game is dying COVID was just hard for all types of events.
Are concerts dying just because there were less concerts last year? Ofc not, you need a reality check man. Just because COVID hit doesnt mean the game is dying lmao
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Objective facts:
Tier 1 scene is bigger than it was in 2018
Player count is higher than ever
More tournament organizers than ever before
Lots of new talent in the scene
Viewership for tier 1 tournaments is still the highest of any shooter by far
I was here 3 years ago to drink those guys tears and im hear now to drink yours, the game isnt dying bud, not even close
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Literally every single point is false. Lmaoooo
i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000..
''My favorite little game is eternal.'' <^-- you.
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You saying theyre false doesnt make them false. When you can prove them false lmk, until then ill keep drinking your tears loser
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You're seething with rage because a game youre low ranked in is doing well, its okay. Just go spend your time elsewhere, we dont need you
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Just by reading that first sentence I'm guessing you're one of those pathetic kids that grind 14 hours a day in FACEIT or some shit, and actually hold hope that they'll get paid for doing that one day, all the while jacking off to the game lmaooooo
God, that just sounds pathetic. Bye, enjoy your little game while you still have a scene to watch.
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So your entire comment is a guess about how i spend my time and nothing that has to do with the topic? Yikes i couldnt even imagine replying with something that insecure, pathetic, and dethatched from the original argument. Truly moronic, good job.
Interesting how you didnt try to prove any of my statements wrong, says a lot about the strength of your argument
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You clearly dont or you wouldnt be commenting doomsayer posts about the game, clearly this game is still a part of your life.
You say no majors like thats because the game cant afford to have them lmao, no majors has nothing to do with the health of the game, youre the one coping here, no argument andy.
cs will not die with its unique gamemode
the real question is, how on earth could csgo become better??
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+1 lol
why? how would that make the game better?
sounds like EA bringing out a new CoD/Fifa each year.... but... why?
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A new engine would eliminate tons of limitations. It’s like having a 1999 Toyota Corolla. Yeah... it still runs, it’s reliable, everything still works etc. but eventually you’re going to want an updated model. New features, new look, better performance etc
CSGO at this point can’t really improve much. Hence why people want Source 2 so much. I mean let’s be real... Source engine is damn near 20 years old and needs to be replaced.
Edited: Lol. Definitely don’t go the EA or Activision-Blizz route. Don’t need a new game every year just update the almost 10 year old one.
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you are talking hot air dude...
be specific, what "tons of limitations" would be removed that would make the game better? list some finally...
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It’s not hot air these are facts. Things from performance, to rendering, to broken code to everything. I’m not a programmer but read this from like 5 years ago lol
reddit.com/r/SourceEngine/comments/3m4dg..
It’s a known fact engines like UE4 are light years better to program for.
Edited: I have a pretty good gaming laptop & I get frame drops and errors playing CSGO and other source games. But I can run Cyberpunk lol smooth. Engine is old bro. Not compatible with newer hardware I mean... It needs to be updated.
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omg, you didnt name a single fact... what do you mean with performance? performance of what? you like to get better sound? you want to run faster, frag more? you need better netcode, or what the frkn fck are you talking about :D what is wrong with rendering, how is that broken? what broken code? do you have constant bluescreen, or what?
you state that you are not a programmer, yet you talk about broken code...
the single fact you drop is that you get framedrops, without talking about details about your hardware, how bloated your OS is, whats running beside cs, what kind of maps, what areas, what kind of situations you get those frame drops :D
that is not a bugreport, thats just mimimimi, how should anyone know what you are talking about... best thing is: you compare a single player game to a multiplayer game, i mean WTF?! doesnt portal run smooth like fck? or do you have framedrops there as well?
so what should valve do, if everyone talks shit like you :D :D
i have performance issues ... haha lol, talkinb about a competitive shooter, where performance can mean 15 different detailed things...
the reddit post is monstly about the map editor, which is part of the engine product. but you as an enduser, a gamer, have nothing to do with at all :D :D
ue4 / unity, are completely different products. those are not engines made for a specific game, but are frameworks and toolkits to be sold to as many game developers as possible. source was mostly a valve intern product, even though its licensed and sold to other companies, espc s2...
but way to go.. complain without stating any facts... you are like trump stating that the election was stolen, raises a mob to riot the capitol, but no evidence at all :D :D :D
but in the end, i prefer a pro mode with q3 washed walls without textures, stable 1000fps (i am not joinking about this one!!) and a hardcore unforgiving netcode with perfect hit detection, low latency and hard movement (not that sluggish shit we have now...), bring back spatial sound!!!!! 1.6 sound was waaaaay better than csgo....
if there was an engine for csgo which brings me that, i am on board with it! (gold source was way better in many points, harder to the newbs, but wayyyy better to the pros! )
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OMG how butthurt are you haha... I'm not reading all that nonsense
It's an old engine... It's outdated and has patched together spaghetti code... Regardless of how you feel the engine is obsolete, outdated, & NO GOOD. There's even a joke about it on youtube from programmers.
youtube.com/watch?v=k238XpMMn38
I have a good PC & maybe you're on a potato idk but, I want better graphics, better performance, better features, better textures, better lighting, etc. Stop being a butthurt idiot and realize you have to replace old parts at some point. You sound like a crying little "beyotch" after a bully took your candy or something. Look at this nonsense you typed
"omg, you didnt name a single fact... what do you mean with performance? performance of what? you like to get better sound? you want to run faster, frag more? you need better netcode, or what the frkn fck are you talking about :D what is wrong with rendering, how is that broken? what broken code? do you have constant bluescreen, or what?"
What??? hahaha What are you fucking talking about. Better performance means BETTER PERFORMANCE... Frame rate, no memory leaks, STABILITY, less glitches, no hardware compatibility issues etc. Wtf are they putting in your Bubble tea in Austria. Calm the fuck down and understand the Source engine is SHIT!
I didn't read after that first retarded paragraph cause you obviously think a 16 year-old engine is efficient in 2021. My laptop is crispy clean and runs EVERYTHING ELSE WELL *hint hint*. You're either a troll or an idiot... Pick one
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you mix up gold source with source duderino... gold source was q1 with some elements of q2 engine, rest was built inhouse. source 2 was built inhouse only.
memory leaks? o.O do you even know what that is >.<''
performance describes a lot of different aspects of an engine, to which one do you refer?
and efficiency in the way of more fps at the same hardware, should go up by years compared to more modern engines... dont you think?
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Dude. Reply as much as you like defending a 16 year old engine. It’s fucking outdated and garbage in 2021. No big company is licensing the source engine lol. Maybe in your country idk.
But stop the nonsense. CSGO 2 w/ a better and improved Source 2 engine. Or somehow convert CSGO to Source 2 pick one.
Do I know what memory leaks are haha. Keep pushing the goal post. Source is trash. Keep replying though it’s not going to make a 16 year old Frankenstein engine any better.
How about this. Show me how the Source engine is as efficient as Source 2 or any modern engine. Remember to list facts lol.
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i hope that its not possible to show that source is more efficient than source2 o.O?
regarding licensing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_(game_engin..
if you think that porting csgo as it is to an other engine, would solve all problems, go for it :D
I ve listed my points, which i would like to see changed...
I also like your argument of the map editor! a better editor would hopefully also mean MORE NEW MAPS!!! which would be awesome...
a concept i knew from starcraft broodwar, was that for certain events, the organizer let famous mapper create special maps, just for that event... I would like this idea also for csgo soooo much.
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Reply all you want the Source engine is at BEST outdated, shit, & outclassed by every new engine out there lol. Doesn't matter what you say at this point... It's a 16 year old engine & it's trash... Look how long it took to fix certain bugs... Coach bug for example.
/endofstory... Source Engine is SHIT! Lol I saw that licensing list it's shit... 2020.. Black Mesa & G-String haha Here's some real licensing lists
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Eng..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unity_game..
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dude... you cant compare those engines... one is an inhouse game engine, the other two are products to be sold....
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What are you talking about anyone can use the Source engine. It's free for personal use and there is a commercial license. Unreal Engine started inhouse as well btw... Epic Games just made a business out of selling a VERY GOOD & OPTIMIZED gaming engine. Can't be mad at that...
partner.steamgames.com/doc/sdk/uploading..
Have a reddit even discussing it
reddit.com/r/SourceEngine/comments/62vf5..
Not just for Mods either and yes, Im sure you'll say "Well it's not the main Source engine Valve uses" Cool story... The fact is no one wants to use it... Cause it's shit!
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Csgo. Maps are so outplayed and overplayed that I get a brain tumor when running into noobs that claim they watch their favorite csgo streamer on twitch.
Please stop. It hurts me
there is so much they can still do with the game.
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Extrapolate
Just look at League of Legends, there isn't much that can change there (map stays basicly the same year to year, the thing that changes are new champions that rarely catch on in the long run and the eternal struggle to balance the game, most of the time there are 3 or 4 viable picks for every role and the rest isn't really optimal). And in spite of everything, no one dares say LoL is dying, even though the prize pools don't go up and same goes for viewership numbers. CS ain't dying, not yet anyway and most likely not for a long time.
I think the sheer mechanical depth and skill ceiling provided by cs as a competitive "sandbox" will keep the game alive forever. Most people don't play the game to discover wacky olofboost type setups or reinvent the game's wheel. Most people play the game to improve their play. On top of this, the literally infinite potential dynamics created by coordinated teamplay will keep the game alive as long as we are A) competitive B) cooperative. The near technical perfection of each element will only allow the above to shine.
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