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why karrigan?
chrisJ | 
Asia Trainerherp 
why would you leave a team with three star players (now that chrisJ is gone) and move to a sinking team with three washed up bots? he will get baited by coldzera and won't be traded anyways
2021-01-26 03:46
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crazy
2021-01-26 03:47
probably last years of being a pro so $$$$$$ the fuck out of it
2021-01-26 03:47
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pretty sure if he wins tournaments in mouz he wil get more $$$$$
2021-01-26 03:51
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#4
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United States GameZ_iwnl
probably evens out either way FaZe high payroll, Mouz high placings.
2021-01-26 04:09
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and he would go for faze because that is more secure than tournament placings
2021-01-26 17:35
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#58
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United States GameZ_iwnl
exactly
2021-01-26 17:38
just curious but how much of the prize money do the players get themselves? I mean the Astralis squad is millionaires but they've won 4 majors and a bunch of other stuff so hard to tell
2021-01-26 07:09
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#34
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United Kingdom novaseer
Normally most of the prize pool goes to the players. It's kind of treated as a performance bonus. Now idk how much 'most' is because I don't actually work in the industry.
2021-01-26 11:03
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#53
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Germany wiggleCS
in average its about 20 % org, 80 % players
2021-01-26 17:27
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What happens to coaches, I mean do they get the salaries only ?
2021-01-26 17:42
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#62
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Germany wiggleCS
thats what i mean with players ofc
2021-01-26 20:48
#60
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United States GameZ_iwnl
on the low end they keep about 80-85%, split between all the roster + coach. most big orgs tend to lean more towards a 90-10 split.
2021-01-26 20:03
He won't be winning tournaments with mouz. Vitality, astralis, na'vi, g2>this mouz team.
2021-01-26 07:24
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#70
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Germany mainak90
Vitality, astralis, navi i agree, they are a lot better rn. But i guess you forgot how g2 as a squad can choke, even with niko. Forget mouz, even furia or VP can beat g2 on their day.
2021-01-26 21:15
Mouz is trash Better than faze But still trash
2021-01-26 07:47
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#65
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Russia Kalacia
Classic vitality fan
2021-01-26 21:04
#6
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Estonia theHeniek
Karrigan would stay in Mouz, U see
2021-01-26 07:22
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hopefully
2021-01-26 17:37
not his decision, mous is kicking al the trash out
2021-01-26 07:28
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#12
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Estonia theHeniek
XD, arre u dumb
2021-01-26 07:45
2 replies
That's probably true. Mouz has been mediocre for 8 months before they finally got short winstreak, but after that they started playing bad again. I don't think that's what mouz's management expected from the team with 3 young talents.
2021-01-26 11:20
#66
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Russia Kalacia
He's a niko fan, you can answer that question yourself
2021-01-26 21:04
Flair
2021-01-26 10:24
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flair
2021-01-26 15:36
#61
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United States GameZ_iwnl
that's why they kicked NiKo then ig
2021-01-26 20:03
#9
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Canada JC_123
If they -Kjaerbye +Twistzz they have essentially 4 stars for him to play alongside
2021-01-26 07:33
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Twistzz lost his form and will be on adaptation process Coldzera washed up Rain and broky decent In mouz, ropz frozen and acor are absolute beasts
2021-01-26 09:29
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#19
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Canada JC_123
Twistzz was playing on 80 ping in a broken team for ~6 months what do you want from him? 1.15 rating despite that?
2021-01-26 09:30
acor? rly? don't make me laugh
2021-01-26 09:33
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#31
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India SKS_1337
Have you seen Acor play?
2021-01-26 10:58
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Yes lmao, i saw him yesterday. Debut in mouz was T R A S H. Overrated af
2021-01-26 11:05
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#38
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India SKS_1337
Well. Did you see any other match than yesterday? when he's playing with regular teammates? So [Debut = trash] = [OMG SO BAD PLAYER]? If yes. I guess doctors can help.
2021-01-26 11:10
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Regular team8s? Wdym. They have been practicing for a week now or more. You started talking about his individual skill (from how i understood it), and he literally was balls. He missed more AWP shots than ChrisJ did the last month.
2021-01-26 11:12
#10
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India xEleanorex
Karrigan is a mastermind for a reason, he must hv thot something abt moving to Faze :)
2021-01-26 07:36
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He did. Steal as many fat paychecks as possible before retirement.
2021-01-26 07:51
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India xEleanorex
Yes
2021-01-26 07:53
imagine this faze in 2017 XD but now is sad
2021-01-26 07:44
#15
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Russia iiinej
Because dexter is better than him.
2021-01-26 07:53
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#17
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India xEleanorex
Xaxaxxaxaxaxaxaxaxxaxa
2021-01-26 07:53
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#22
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Russia iiinej
Flair checks out. Keep believing that his kick was the reason of FaZe's fall, even though they started to play like shit way before he was kicked, that's the reason they switched NiKo to the in-game leader role.
2021-01-26 10:13
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#29
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India xEleanorex
This is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
2021-01-26 10:57
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#30
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Russia iiinej
My English is just fine, 0/8.
2021-01-26 10:58
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#33
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India xEleanorex
ok
2021-01-26 11:01
#20
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Serbia CoVRa
Who cars anyways?Faze is stupid if they goes for him....
2021-01-26 09:33
bymas and frozen star players ahahahhaa
2021-01-26 10:15
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thats the two best players of yesterdays match my guy
2021-01-26 11:10
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where is the point with what i said ?
2021-01-26 11:17
1 reply
your sarcasm
2021-01-26 11:18
both woxic and mouz are washed up since the departure. karrigan might be a good igl but he can't frag.
2021-01-26 10:19
I think it's a great move actually. But I also think Cold and Rain could potentially regain some form. They aren't ancient by any means. Twistzz is just 21 and only ever played bad when he decided to become a support player right before the online era. I wouldn't be surprised if his form picked up almost immediately. Give him any and every spot he wants on CT side and put him second or third in an entry pack. His mechanics are just too good for me to think he's going to disappear at 21. Broky isn't great but he's good enough for the role and he only has room to grow. If it all comes together it'd be the first time since 2018 I've liked the Faze lineup.
2021-01-26 10:23
He is smart, faze will perform better
2021-01-26 10:27
Faze had more potential. They havent had a coach or analyst for some time ago mens. Dont think they even got a real one after ynk left. 4 players and 1 that doesnt even want to play waiting for their org to sign captain and coach and analyst. Ofc rhey wont try. Mouz game is nothing. Coldzera can 100% be great again with a guy like karrigan. Remember he was 2016’s zywoo?
2021-01-26 10:51
Is it not obvious? He'll more than likely (should) retire after this season. One last pay day incoming. tyty
2021-01-26 10:59
Mouz's team is better for the long term, considering the avg. age in their team, if we exclude karrigan, is 19.75 years old and the fact that those players haven't fully developed yet (frozen & bymas), didn't hit their prime (acoR) and there is also ropz, who just began entering his prime. On the other hand, in FaZe, the avg. age, if we exclude Olof, is 23.25. Taking that into consideration, they have 2 players which are past their prime, but aren't washed up yet (rain and cold), a prodigy which would benefit a lot from an IGL like karrigan and there is also Kjaerbye, an ex superstar, which wasn't able to handle its success at a very young age. Considering all of the things mentioned, it will go down to karrigan's wish and for how long he wants to continue playing. Because if he is looking in the long term, mouz can become major winners with its current roster, but he can't really do that in 1 or 2 years. While with FaZe, he could have a better shot at winning a major now, if he manages to bring the form of everyone back, which is pretty hard to achieve, if you ask me.
2021-01-26 11:09
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+1 most likely he'll stay imo because the boys at mousesports. Tbh if mous can get dexter then it'll be good for both party's. As for kjaerbye i don't think he is washed up yet, having a success at such an early age really could fckd you up mentally, all he needs to do is just develop as a player and gain back his motivation.
2021-01-26 21:11
#37
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Ukraine Dert_
MOUZ fans be like encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:.. [spoiler]it is better for them however[/spoiler]
2021-01-26 11:07
Karrigan bot boombl4 best
2021-01-26 11:13
mouz should get sunny.. more fire pawah
2021-01-26 11:14
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Ropz, Frozen and Bymas not enough?
2021-01-26 11:30
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more fire pawah will be better
2021-01-26 14:08
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why not bring in zywoo and s1mple then :?
2021-01-26 14:09
2 replies
no money man..
2021-01-26 17:25
1 reply
print more money man..
2021-01-26 17:28
#44
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Switzerland Sylleo
better lose while earning a high paycheck
2021-01-26 11:17
#50
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Turkey xC|sliCer
its confirmed? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the reason obv
2021-01-26 14:09
Karrigan coldzera broky rain Twistzz Individual skills are questionable as to whether they are better than Mouz players, but team play will be better. Karrigan as a 30-year-old has one last chance (with a contract for 2-3 years) and FaZe will definitely give him more money than Mouz.
2021-01-26 17:31
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Faze without IGL don't have any chance
2021-01-26 21:02
#63
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Poland Czari10
Guys most of the cash from winnings is secured by the ORG Astralis just own the organization hence they have more $$$$$$$ It's better to sit in Faze and get your cheque than try harding to beat astralis xd
2021-01-26 20:50
#67
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Sweden Lagge15
He said that his next contract most likely will be his last as a player. So I am guessing he got different focus than "current roster" in mind. If he goes to FaZe he most like get higher salary and bigger say in how to shape the roster. He gets to play with one of his best friends and prove his legacy as an IGL bringing back fallen stars and bringing out the best in Broky
2021-01-26 21:08
Karrigan in Faze atleast will earn more money and maybe lift trophies, in mouz he earn a shit salary and doesn't win anything
2021-01-26 21:12
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