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Brazil Endaldo_Pereira 
I think HLTV should add a rule where mods have to notify and justify thread deletions to the OP. This way the OP will know what he did wrong AND things will be less arbitrary and transparent for the users.
2021-01-26 15:38
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+1
2021-01-26 15:39
#2
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Netherlands HSQ
+1 i never know what i did wrong becuz i don't create n word threads nothing is more dangerous that this
2021-01-26 15:39
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What is your reply to me just now :D
2021-01-26 15:42
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#22
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Netherlands HSQ
My reply was 'ok Indonesia'
2021-01-26 15:49
More transparent*, sorry for my bad englando
2021-01-26 15:40
+1
2021-01-26 15:42
+1 same with bans.
2021-01-26 15:46
7 replies
What exactly is the issue with bans?
2021-01-26 16:25
6 replies
A lot of the time you will recieve a ban with no information on what caused the ban. Especially with temperory IP bans you just get told an email to appeal never why you were banned. Would be nice to have a reason why you were banned so you can easily avoid doing it in the future. A lot of areas are a grey area. People are often making fun of UK users e.g. "Yellow teeth, brexit" etc... They are never banned, but if a user says something negative about a Brazilian user they are instantly banned (Which is correct).
2021-01-26 16:31
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If the IP ban is temporary you are always free to contact the site staff afterwards to inquiry about the reason, aren't you? Regarding the offensive behaviour you refer to, please report it and, sooner than later hopefully, this type of misbehaviour will end up moderated just like the rest of the offeners.
2021-01-26 16:37
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Of course but the main issue is, I don't believe a person should have to contact staff to get a reason for the ban. For obvious bait posts and racism, sure ban without any explanation but for small rule breaks such as "insults" a small explanation e.g. "Banned for X days for insulting a user based on nationality" I do report every single comment that I find is insulting but I barely see any "brexit" comments or "Yellow teeth" comments get deleted. I'll keep reporting them and hopefully moderators are able to see them and get these users punished.
2021-01-26 16:41
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The system is what it is within the possibilities the development team can come up with, among them the implementation of the ban inquiry feature. Regarding the content you report, please bear in mind that you are not the only user doing so and all those other reports have also to be checked.
2021-01-26 17:15
A lot bans are very unfair... I personally haven't been banned for a very long time, but I often see others post about unfair bans where they get banned for commenting stuff like "+1", "lol", "I aren't think that" etc. And don't just say that they're "useless" comments as then you may as well just remove the forums since everything would be considered useless...
2021-01-26 17:55
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I am not sure how speaking about other users' bans, that is without knowing the exact circumstances surrounding them, makes you think that they are automatically 'unfair'. Supporting offensive comments with '+1' makes a ban unfair'? Or laughing at them with 'lol' etc. that is finding/supporting this behaviour as 'funny' instead of reporting them? Or participating in pointless comments trees spamming the same comment over and over again just like other users? You see, and with due respect, in order to express an opinion one should know what (s)he is talking about and the circumstances that surround it. And that is the way those users you refer to mislead others into thinking something that is not actually true.
2021-01-26 19:02
The site has already rules regarding what content is welcome and which is not yet some users willingly choose to ignore this. The usual complaint is that rules do not specifically list this or that scenario. Expecting for this to happen is quite unrealistic as in that case the rules listing would be several pages long and, ultimately and ironically, this again would be a reason for users to complain. Consequently, the removal of rule-breaking or non-welcome content is neither 'arbitrary' nor 'non-transparent'. Especially in the cases when the OP him/herself is very aware of its pointless/bait etc. nature and yet, as far as I am aware, tries to blame it on the site staff due to 'personal bias'. As I have mentioned in the past the site staff is well aware of some users having fun with this kind of content but, as stated then and now again, this will not avoid its removal.
2021-01-26 16:28
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Would my thread titled "eu come here" because I wanted to ask them if they keep up with american football fall under breaking these rules? Don't troll Useless blogs, threads and posts, irrelevant posts, baiting etc.
2021-01-26 16:30
7 replies
As far as I am concerned, yes. Aside of its poor writing and already trying to influence the users' participation suggesting for american football to be 'stupid'.
2021-01-26 16:33
6 replies
So how would I go about asking a question on this forum? Because that was an honest question, would I need to write it like this? Will all the trimmings of a nicely-written paragraph?
2021-01-26 16:36
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Other users ask questions too and, as stated, they at least care for them to be written correctly even if it is not their native language in most of the cases. That is the approach you should try when posting your own threads and, again, without already trying to attract prejudices from the start.
2021-01-26 16:40
4 replies
Ok, yeah, I get it. But an edit button on threads would be nice, unless it would cause another issue I'm not thinking of.
2021-01-26 16:48
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The lack of the 'edit' button is indeed an issue though one also should always review the thread content before submitting it to the site as there is actually no hurry to do so.
2021-01-26 17:00
2 replies
Would you say the introduction of an edit button for the body section of a thread post will be soon? Or is that something you guys haven't started working on/thought is important yet?
2021-01-26 17:03
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It is not part of my department but I doubt it would be a high priority issue as, as stated, for now this type of problem can be easily addressed most of the time by the OP him/herself double checking the content before submitting it.
2021-01-26 17:17
However there are some rules missing in the so often quoted hltv.org/forums/rules like 18+ stuff and amas being banworthy apparantly which might as well be added for completions sake to make it more clear for everyone as for #26 a sentence mentioning what rule exactly was broken in addition to the comment would make things a lot clearer
2021-01-26 16:36
10 replies
AMA threads being deletion/ban worthy is already listed in the rules when they are deemed pointless (being drunk etc.). Regarding 18+ content, needless to say that it is not welcome, especially when the content is NSFW/explicit.
2021-01-26 16:42
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#54
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United States TopBaiter
Shouldn't HLTV only have threads related to CS??
2021-01-26 16:49
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Should it? As far as I know that are other sections in the forums.
2021-01-26 16:51
there is off-topic
2021-01-26 17:03
Well with all due respect but something being "pointless" is entirely subjective and opens space for arbitrary deletions. If anything the moderation and ruling should be as objective as possible.
2021-01-26 16:50
3 replies
Exactly. HLTV rules smh
2021-01-26 16:53
+1
2021-01-26 16:56
As far as I am concerned, it is actually objective and the 'subjective' part is based on moderation criteria and guidelines.
2021-01-26 16:57
Needless to say you were the one promoting this type of content, even making your own thread for it. Just admit the enforcement of said "rules" is not consistent. The rules are not clear. In the case of AMA's who defines what is "pointless" and what is "important". Not to mention you just make up your own rules as you go. Judging by what was bannable in the past and by those very same rules you like to refer to so very often, you should've been banned as well. Good bye!
2021-01-26 16:58
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This point of view has popped up from time to time and, despite explaining it already, I will do so again. There was no 'promotion' on my behalf but an effort to centralize disperse content in a single place for easier moderation. Thus, if in the end the approach of the site management would change or establish a clear guideline regarding this kind of content, it could be easily moderated. Which is what in the end happened. Regarding the AMA threads, it seems that somehow you missed the example of a pointless AMA thread I included in my comment. AMA threads are, and always have been fine, when there was an actual effort on behalf of the OP to stir some participation. Yet, unfortunately, over time more and more it has ended to some abstract thread title and that's it. I fail to see where the site staff 'make up your own rules as you go'. The rules have always been the same yet users ended up thinking that by justifying their misbehaviour as 'jokes', 'memes' or 'other users doing the same' they would not end up affecting them.
2021-01-26 17:09
#34
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
my thread "10k comments" was just a celebration for the fact that I got 10k comments, it was recently deleted, but I don't understand why it happened. Does this kind of thread like mine fit into "useless"? if so, why is my "8k comments" thread still alive after the triple of comments?
2021-01-26 16:36
27 replies
I don't think it't useless, but once again, how do HLTV admin define useless? You were just celebrating something! You weren't trying to bait or anything..
2021-01-26 16:39
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1 what I cant understand is why only my "10k comments" thread was deleted, while my "8k comments" thread remains alive, even with 3x more comments
2021-01-26 16:45
Just you wanting to celebrate something does not mean that you should post it as a thread. If each and every user would do the same, which in the end some may try as they saw other users doing it, the forum would be flooded with that type of content. And users should always be able to differentiate between a removal and a related ban which are two different things.
2021-01-26 16:45
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#52
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
oh ok, now that makes more sense, thanks for removing my 8k comments too
2021-01-26 16:48
Maybe you should update your rulebook with this new rule so users don't break a rule they didn't even know existed two seconds ago.
2021-01-26 16:59
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As far as I know there are no rules that did not exist 'two seconds ago'.
2021-01-26 17:19
3 replies
Yeah that makes sense "as far as you know".
2021-01-26 17:24
2 replies
A very constructive approach. You may want to blame the site staff for it too I presume.
2021-01-26 17:38
1 reply
I'm just following the example you have set. Have a good day!
2021-01-26 18:39
Congratz to 10k comments!
2021-01-26 16:55
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
thanks, now my two threads have been deleted. If you remember, let me know when my 8k comments thread was created, i will put in my profile
2021-01-26 16:56
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#87
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
i love you <3 I don't know how you got it, but thank you very much. I will not put the link on my profile as a precaution, but I have already put the date + your credits in my description, again, thank you very much
2021-01-26 17:05
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No problem, i just googled "ghcnvbkn hltv 8k comments" and your thread popped up. It was 404 so i just opened the cached version.
2021-01-26 17:07
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
I didn't know it was possible but thanks again :'))
2021-01-26 17:08
There's no problem with having it in your bio, people usually have way worse things and they aren't usually moderated unless they are too offensive/explicit
2021-01-26 17:34
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#128
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
thank you very much for the information, I'll be putting it in my description, then. I don't know how the link system works in the bio, and the link is too big to fit in one line, so in the worst case just copy and paste
2021-01-26 17:38
10 replies
I don't know either but maybe you could ask Jonty if you want
2021-01-26 17:40
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#131
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
nah, I don't think it's necessary for now, maybe in the future, in case it bothers me a lot, ty again :))
2021-01-26 17:42
8 replies
Type [LINK]your link[/LINK]
2021-01-26 18:01
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#150
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
the notification had not appeared to me. sorry if this is strange but I didn't understand your comment :P Sorry for the potato IQ what i did not understand: what to put in the [LINK] here I write what I want? (in the "your link") what to put in [/LINK]
2021-01-26 18:13
6 replies
For example [LINK]Hltv.org[/LINK] You have to write [LINK] before your link and [/LINK] after your link (no spaces) :)
2021-01-26 18:16
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#152
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
so, basically: [LINK] "the link i wanna paste" [/LINK] write like this but replacing what is in " for the link? I will try, thank you very much :D
2021-01-26 18:20
4 replies
Seems like it worked))))
2021-01-26 18:23
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#159
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
apparently yes, thank you very much^^
2021-01-26 18:25
#164
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
just to finish I gave you a little credit at the end of the description, thanks again
2021-01-26 18:30
1 reply
Thanks mens)
2021-01-26 18:32
You should still be notified what you did wrong with thread deletion. It's like a ban, I can't fix it if I don't know what I did wrong. It's simple, and how is it unrealistic? Why do you just assume every person on this site is baiting too? "the OP him/herself is very well aware of its pointless/bait etc." Sure, every person is the same. Once again, your rules state. * Act like a normal person. "Earth - you don't have to be crazy to live here; but it helps."
2021-01-26 16:36
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As stated already you are free to inquiry it when it happens providing the necessary information if the site staff you contact was not the one who deleted it. Yes, it is unrealistic to list each and every possible scenario in a rules set. And some users try to exploit this as their cases are not explicitly listed despite this not making the mod action invalid. You are free to hint me where I stated that every person is the same. What I indeed stated was that the OP most of the times is well of the pointless/bait nature of his/her thread yet they do not provide this type of information to the rest of the users, just like with bans, and ultimately they succeed in having all of them jumping on the 'unfair deletion' bandwagon.
2021-01-26 16:54
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I'm not asking you to copy and paste a list of rules when you delete someones thread, I'm asking you if you can list the 1 or 2 reasons why the thread was deleted. Maybe a threat, a bad word, a bait, etc. That is not unrealistic, look up to twitch.tv, they give reasons for bans just as you give reasons for thread deletion! (You both don't give reasoning) I'm not jumping on a "bandwagon", we are trying to get things changed right here, right now in this thread, but you are shutting down every idea (Metophorical) with an "unrealistic" standpoint. Also, determining a bait or something "pointless" is entirely an opinion, it reminds me of my schools tests. | "What is the BEST answer?" "Which answer MOST LIKELY RESEMBLES the prompt?" It's personal opinon.
2021-01-26 17:00
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If it was deleted it was against the rules. As simple as that, without any 'personal opinion' involved but moderation criteria and guidelines. And, despite your insistence, listing each and every scenario is still unrealistic.
2021-01-26 17:23
That solves nothing. You're missing the key point that a ban will still stay on your record even if it gets reverted by mods, which can lead to a 10 year ban.
2021-01-26 17:01
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If the ban history leads to a 10 year ban then there are more bans listed than just the one that got reverted.
2021-01-26 17:25
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So you're saying you can't have multiple unfair bans for which you inquire and get a half assed explanation every time? At least allow users to delete their own thread/comment willingly if they actually KNEW that they were breaking the rules. 90% of people here don't just go around looking for rules to break on purpose.
2021-01-26 17:27
You can't deny that there is a degree of personal bias involved when a mod gets to decide what is or isn't a bait. For example, a moderator told me my thread about Richard Lewis got deleted because I commented "and in general I don't really see why people would dislike him as a person, guy seems like a flawed but genuinely well meaning human".
2021-01-26 16:52
6 replies
You should not confuse 'personal bias' with moderation criteria or guidelines. And addressing someone as 'flawed' which is, ironically, your own personal bias is still a valid reason for your thread to be removed.
2021-01-26 16:56
5 replies
So you can't even express your own opinion on this forum. Thanks for admitting to this after countless of pointless replies.
2021-01-26 17:04
3 replies
+1
2021-01-26 17:23
Yes, you can as long as they do not break the rules.
2021-01-26 17:29
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That's not true, regardless of how many political replies you give. Your rules are unclear and way too broad, at this point it would be better to remove all rules and just have one rule: no matter what you post mods will decide what happens with it. That way you can actually be consistent, a concept that is foreign to you.
2021-01-26 18:28
You would make a great politican, just saying.
2021-01-26 17:05
i feel like the rules are very vague tbh,what is useless in this site and what isn't?who decides that?an admin or it's predefined? +i think the administration should talk more to the users,i made a thread asking why amas get deleted and some admin just locked it without any reason,2 times i replied to a ban inquiry and didn't get a reply,when i got ip banned i didn't get an reason for it and my email didn't get any reply too(3 times btw,i had to wait for the ip ban end),which makes me think that enquiring for a ban is useless,specially if you get ip banned edit:isn't off topic section for non-cs-related or cs-irrelevant topics?
2021-01-26 17:05
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Finland kalza1
+1
2021-01-26 16:30
#37
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United States fatburger
+1
2021-01-26 16:37
#40
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China HEIDASHUAi
+1
2021-01-26 16:40
+1 same with commets
2021-01-26 16:43
+1 Very good idea
2021-01-26 16:50
+1
2021-01-26 16:50
There will eventually be a new EU law, saying that you can't ban people from your platform without giving a valid reason. I hope this comes soon.
2021-01-26 16:53
3 replies
+1
2021-01-26 17:01
Keep dreaming, if anything things will get even worse. Who decides what is a "valid reason". If i don't think that was a "valid reason" and i still get banned, how will i defend myself?
2021-01-26 17:06
1 reply
Go to court and sue them?
2021-01-26 17:36
no
2021-01-26 16:57
+1 and also justification for deleting comments
2021-01-26 16:59
btw props to Jonathan E. for actually replying to users here, usually threads like this get deleted without a single reply from a staff member.
2021-01-26 17:18
Overall forum rules are very vague here, less effort is being spent in cementing the rules of the forum than just judging from the vague, borderline subjective rules/guidelines. Good luck in trying to make a change
2021-01-26 17:24
+1
2021-01-26 17:29
#133
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Russia GramDEL
+1
2021-01-26 17:44
#138
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Brazil opala_6cc
+11111111111111111111111111111111111
2021-01-26 17:51
#142
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Finland Jomppeboi
+1111111111111111111111111111111
2021-01-26 17:56
#157
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Europe legal2333
+1
2021-01-26 18:24
but no, it would make so much sense. HLTV would never do it
2021-01-26 18:30
Stop making bait threads??????????????
2021-01-26 19:00
#175
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United States PP_Bizon
+111111111111111111111111111111111111
2021-01-26 19:07
+1
2021-01-26 20:36
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