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All-time top 20 ranking 2013-2020
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Europe thaifinnen 
Another year of Counter Strike and another update of the yearly list. I decided to add average points per year they appeared in the top 20 for this year and I also removed placements in each year since it just got to messy, but i hope you guys like it anyways. I'll see you guys on January 20th 2021 for the 2013>2021 ranking. Im a bit late with the post since apperantly i must be more active to create new forum topics smh. The old rankings: 2013>2019 hltv.org/forums/threads/2228084/top-20-p.. 2013>2018 hltv.org/forums/threads/1966621/top-20-s.. 2013>2017 hltv.org/forums/threads/1952711/top-20-p.. 1>20 the higher placement the higher points awarded: 1st place =20p 2nd place =19p 3rd place =18p 18th place =3p 19th place =2p 20th place =1p 1 dev1ce 108p (avg pts: 15,42p) 2 s1mple 88p (avg pts: 17,6p) 3 NiKo 74p (avg pts: 14,8p) 4 GuardiaN 66p (avg pts: 11p) 5 kennyS/dupreeh 61p (avg pts: 12,2p & 8,71p) 6 shox/flusha 54p (avg pts: 13,5p) 7 GeT_RiGhT 53p (avg pts: 13,25p) 8 f0rest 52p (avg pts: 13p) 9 coldzera/Snax 51p (avg pts: 17p & 12,75p) 10 electronic 48p (avg pts: 16p) 11 Magisk 47p (avg pts: 11,75p) 12 KRIMZ 46p (avg pts: 9,2p) 13 EliGE 45p (avg pts: 11,25p) 14 olofmeister 44p (avg pts: 11p) 15 ZywOo/JW 40p (avg pts: 20p & 13,3p) 16 FalleN 34p (avg pts: 17p) 17 NBK 32p (avg pts: 10,66p) 18 NAF 29p (avg pts: 14,5p) 19 ropz 27p (avg pts: 9p) 20 ScreaM 26p (avg pts: 13p) 21 fer/Happy 24p (avg pts: 12p) 22 Xyp9x 23p (avg pts: 5,75p) 23 Twistzz 21p (avg pts: 10,5p) 24 rain/pashaBiceps 20p (avg pts: 10p) 25 friberg/Dosia 17p (avg pts: 8,5 & 17p) 26 flamie 16p (avg pts: 8p) 27 blameF/Xizt 15p (avg pts: 15p) 28 Brehze 14p (avg pts: 7p) 29 gla1ve 13p (avg pts: 13p) 30 oskar/Hiko 12p (avg pts: 6p & 12p) 31 syrsoN/Kjaerbye 11p (avg pts: 11p & 5,5p) 32 HObbit 10p (avg pts: 10p) 33 stavn/woxic/apEX 9p (avg pts: 9p & 9p & 4,5p) 34 huNter/Brollan/jks/sergej/byali 8p (avg pts: 8p & 4p & 4p & 8p & 8p) 35 yuurih/Nico/k0nfig 7p (avg pts: 7p) 36 Cajunb/Markleoff 6p (avg pts: 6p) 37 HEN1/suNny/Edward 5p (avg pts: 5p) 38 autimatic/AdreN/NEO/SmithZz 4p (avg pts: 4p) 39 KSCERATO/CeRq/swag/boltz 3p (avg pts: 3p) 40 fnx/allu/kioShiMa 2p (avg pts: 2p) 41 Ethan/valde/dennis/Skadoodle 1p (avg pts: 1p)
2021-01-27 13:48
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some salty guy deleted the list from wikipedia after this years ranking kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk probably couldnt bear device being #1
2021-01-27 13:49
45 replies
Kkkkkkk s2mple fans not toxic btw
2021-01-27 13:52
10 replies
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Europe thaifinnen
nt prodka
2021-01-27 13:59
4 replies
LOLOLOLOL DEv0Ce #1 ahahahahahahahahahahahaha ASTRALIS NEVER HAD AN ERA, SORRY TO BREAK ASTRALIS FANS BUT NAVI #1 TEAM 2020 AND S1MPLE #1 cry is free, astralis fans cyring bc never had an era
2021-02-01 13:23
3 replies
did you live under a rock during 2018?
2021-02-01 15:33
Whaaaaat? The most consistent team ever, and this dude tell me astralis never had and era... Astralis is just the best team of all times by far.
2021-02-01 17:35
1 reply
Swedes are always toxic and arrogant baiters mens don't mind them
2021-02-05 18:03
#117
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Serbia LtN))
nt prodka
2021-01-27 20:15
pretty sure it was a get_right fan
2021-01-27 20:42
1 reply
nice nick lol
2021-01-29 14:25
nt prodka
2021-01-28 12:10
nt prodka
2021-01-28 19:01
#3
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Europe thaifinnen
there's a list like this on wikipedia??
2021-01-27 13:56
19 replies
#5
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India HardyTrison
its open source, wouldnt be surprised if there was
2021-01-27 14:00
1 reply
#6
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah thats true
2021-01-27 14:01
2021-01-27 14:01
16 replies
#9
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Europe thaifinnen
hmm i never knew and who tf is Martin "trace" Heldt?
2021-01-27 14:03
15 replies
probably the best danish 1.6 player
2021-01-27 14:05
5 replies
#13
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Europe thaifinnen
oh they included 1.6 I didnt relise that. and i never played 1.6 either
2021-01-27 14:07
4 replies
#37
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
2010/2011 rankings were 1.6 and 2012 wasn't included due to the fact CS:GO was only know for about 6 months, not a full year.
2021-01-27 14:42
3 replies
#40
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah i knew 2012 was the breakout year for csgo so no list wast made untill 2013
2021-01-27 14:45
2 replies
#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
GTR would've been number 1 in 2012 if there had been any rankings, no question about it. Others (myself included) "unofficially" count it as one of GTR's accolades.
2021-01-27 14:48
1 reply
#45
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah since he was way ahead the rest in terms of how to play the game (this is what i've read and heard)
2021-01-27 14:49
#35
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Trace was the IGL for mTw, one of the best 1.6 teams which was hands down the best Danish 1.6 team. The current coach for Astralis "Zonic" played for tge very same mTw in 1.6 and he was a beast.
2021-01-27 14:41
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#38
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Europe thaifinnen
oh okey never knew that. im dont know that much about 1.6 i've seen youtube documentaries about neo f0rest etc but i still got a lot more to learn about 1.6
2021-01-27 14:44
4 replies
#41
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Fair enough. :) It was almost a decade ago, after all. :D Now you know, friend. ^^
2021-01-27 14:46
3 replies
#44
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Europe thaifinnen
thx for educating me, friend ^^
2021-01-27 14:48
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#46
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Thank you for the interesting thread. ^^ Have a good day, friend. <3
2021-01-27 14:51
1 reply
#48
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Europe thaifinnen
no problem man i hope you visit my thread for the next year. ^^ You too man. <3
2021-01-27 14:52
Trace never was igl. mTw igl was ave
2021-01-30 02:04
2 replies
Yes, my apologies - thank you for the correction.
2021-02-05 16:55
1 reply
np
2021-02-05 17:50
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Actually I think it is just to update it, friend... Wikipedia has no bias, it's an encyclopedia.
2021-01-27 14:52
13 replies
wikipedia has bias bcuz us (humans) create it
2021-01-27 19:36
12 replies
Evidently you have no idea how bias works... Providing facts and information ignores bias in favour of doing just that: providing facts and information. Technically, encyclopedias are "informational bias" if anything. How can there possibly be bias when presenting objective statements and information?
2021-01-27 21:04
11 replies
But Device > S1mple is objective
2021-01-28 02:15
1 reply
In terms of accolades? Yes. Statistically? No. The difference of opinions is treated as subjective, friend.
2021-01-28 03:23
nbcnews.com/id/wbna32588168 if u dont know nothing just stfu
2021-01-28 16:21
8 replies
You posted an article about Wikipedia blunders and that is because humans are imperfect, Wikipedia and encyclopaedias/encyclopedias are made by humans, therefore the "facts" and "information" can sometimes be falsified and an incorrect fact-check is obviously one hell of a blunder. Your link doesn't prove anything: Fact remains providing information and facts should be strictly unbiased.
2021-01-28 16:26
7 replies
#107 as i said humans write that and there certain bias in posts
2021-01-28 16:29
6 replies
Yes and I replied stating that there should be none when providing information and facts, it is objective, after all. Humans are imperfect but that doesn't change the fact that stating fact is unbiased - You are "in favour" of the information, i.e. informational bias.
2021-01-28 16:31
5 replies
ok i understand no matter what u wont change ur opinion i think i hurt ur feelings seems like u are author in wiki
2021-01-28 16:33
4 replies
No, I am trying to explain the semantics to a point YOU made...? Why would you hurt my feelings, friend?
2021-01-28 16:35
3 replies
ok so i wont change my opinion and u wont so have nice day and drink a nice beer!
2021-01-28 16:42
2 replies
Very well. Have a good day, friend. ;)
2021-01-28 16:43
1 reply
hahaha wtf happened here...world..
2021-01-30 01:53
Wont even read
2021-01-27 14:02
1 reply
#10
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Europe thaifinnen
come on mens
2021-01-27 14:03
Ez4GOATpreeh
2021-01-27 14:05
1 reply
#14
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Europe thaifinnen
Ez4Goathox*
2021-01-27 14:08
Crazy to me that Zywoo has an average of 20 pts, obviously he still has a lot to prove to surpass device/S1mple as the goat, but the kid is truly something else man
2021-01-27 14:09
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#16
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah the kid is really impressive. i was doubting him before he went pro since many zywoo fans were hyping him up so much but he proved me wrong. he entered the top 20 list like coldzera with 2 back to back #1 spots lets see how zywoo does in 2021 and see if he can set the record for consecutive #1 spot 3 times back to back
2021-01-27 14:13
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#17
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Other M@GNU5
+ the youngest to do such feat
2021-01-27 14:17
5 replies
#19
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah it will be interesting to see how his career will play out
2021-01-27 14:18
4 replies
#22
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Other M@GNU5
true, can't wait for another clash of s1mple and ZywOo on a Bo5 at LAN
2021-01-27 14:20
3 replies
#23
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah hope covid gets solved soon so we can see these young beasts facing each other on LAN in a grandfinal
2021-01-27 14:21
2 replies
#25
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Other M@GNU5
basically we would be seeing Superman vs General Zod
2021-01-27 14:24
1 reply
#26
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Europe thaifinnen
pretty much or CR7 and Messi if you're into football
2021-01-27 14:25
#109
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
s1mple is not that far ahead. he has 11 mvps compared to s1mples 12.if he is above s1mple for about 2 more years, he will be greater than s1mple.
2021-01-27 19:59
4 replies
maybe who knows zywoo might fall off you never know
2021-01-27 20:06
3 replies
#116
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
thats what evryone said last year. zywoo is not even dming. he ain't gonna fall off. this isn't his peak.
2021-01-27 20:15
2 replies
well if he isnt dming it might indicate his work ethic isnt strong. shox had talent and low work ethic and in the end it showed. i just hope it wont happen to zywoo
2021-01-27 20:16
1 reply
He isnt DMing because he never really did according to interviews. He said that he does aimbotz a lot more than DM
2021-01-30 18:21
scream, electronic, syrson, brehze, blamef, wtf is this list
2021-01-27 14:17
1 reply
#21
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Europe thaifinnen
they all had apperances in the top 20 list in some or multiple years and my list includes all players who have appeared in top 20 so ofcourse im gonna include them
2021-01-27 14:20
2021-01-27 14:19
15 replies
#24
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Europe thaifinnen
well good for you but as i stated my list only involves top 20 while yours doesnt
2021-01-27 14:22
Ahahahahahahahaha
2021-01-27 14:34
#49
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Argentina atriX^
Your list is so bad it contradicts itself. Title: "Top 20 of *all time*" Line 3: "The more recent the result, the more it counts"
2021-01-27 15:22
10 replies
2012 worth as much as 2021 results sure B)
2021-01-27 15:32
9 replies
#54
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Argentina atriX^
2012 didn't have a top20 because it was a transition year. Yes, competition is much higher now than in 2013 but the fact that your list has the entire Astralis roster in the 1-5 spots already makes it stupid. The top players back then were still the top players according to the level of competition there was. GeT_RiGhT was top 1 two years in a row and while I definitely wouldn't put him in the same level as s1mple or ZywOo not even including him in the top 30 is ridiculous. You even have TACO on it.
2021-01-27 15:43
7 replies
#56
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Europe thaifinnen
+1
2021-01-27 15:47
#66
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North America AlanSmith
+1
2021-01-27 16:40
#66
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North America AlanSmith
+1
2021-01-27 16:40
3 replies
#73
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Europe thaifinnen
wow not one but 2 +1 to the same reply lol
2021-01-27 16:49
2 replies
#124
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North America AlanSmith
wtf sorry it's a bug i guess
2021-01-27 23:17
1 reply
np man
2021-01-28 12:06
wait this guy have 5 astralis players in top wtf so delusional u need to be to think dupreeh-magisk-gla1ve-xyp9x>forrest-COLD-OLOF-NEO-GTR
2021-01-28 02:25
2014-2019 >>>> online 2020
2021-01-29 14:23
#55
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
wtf is this shit lmao what is the maths behind this
2021-01-27 15:46
#57
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Europe thaifinnen
you should show the point system and how it works otherwise it doesnt matter
2021-01-27 15:49
The problem with these lists is that the number 20th spot only gets 1 point. That means the difference between being a silver I and the #20th is the same as the difference between #20 and #19, and getting #20 is virtually worth nothing even if it is an accomplishment. Maybe you could start with 20=5, 19=6 or something like that.
2021-01-27 14:30
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#29
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Europe thaifinnen
i thought about it since 2017 when i started but i found it hard to decied what point system to rank them from but in the end i chose this way and now i dont think i can change the point system since i've already made 4 lists now and it would be weird if i did a new list for the next year with a different point system
2021-01-27 14:33
3 replies
Yeah it works fine anyways)))) There hasn’t been a player who has gotten #20/#19/#18 a ton of times in a row which would undervalue them a lot
2021-01-27 14:37
1 reply
#33
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Europe thaifinnen
thx man. yeah and hopfully no one will. but if someone did his avg point would drop
2021-01-27 14:38
its okay hltv himself use the same sytem the give 1 to top 20 and 20 to top 1 but only counts players wiith a top 3
2021-01-28 02:26
First place points should be much higher than 2nd and 3rd etc. This is so biased for especially device and NiKo.
2021-01-27 14:33
1 reply
#31
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah i know but when i started with this first list (hltv.org/forums/threads/1952711/top-20-p..) I went with this point system and its to late to change it now since it would be weird if I did a new list with a different point system
2021-01-27 14:35
#34
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Italy ROMAG
I donºt like to much that type of pontuation, because it doesnºt valorize to much top 5 ranking. being top 1 is equal to be 2 times top 11
2021-01-27 14:40
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#36
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Europe thaifinnen
yes i know the system isnt without flaws but i feel like i cant change the point system now in my fourth list thats the only reason to why i havnt changed it
2021-01-27 14:42
#39
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Very interesting indeed... Accumulation of points is certainly a good way to rank something and each list is unique due to the accumulation. Yours is most definitely an interesting take, friend.
2021-01-27 14:44
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#42
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Europe thaifinnen
thank you man always glad to hear that, the big thing i would like to change with my list is the point system and have a bigger reward but since i've already made 4 list now with the same point system its too late to change
2021-01-27 14:46
allu > anyone
2021-01-27 15:36
1 reply
#53
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Ukraine McSwell
What is the big deal with such type of rankings? It actually means that 3 times #5 is better than 2 times #1 - senseless.
2021-01-27 15:40
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#58
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Europe thaifinnen
ofc my list isnt without any flaws and in general my list is more benefitial to consistant players which dev1ce shows consistantly staying in top 5 but still no #1 yet. I wanted to change the point system but since i had already made 3 lists before this one it would'nt be fair if i changed the whole point system
2021-01-27 15:53
This point system is interesting but it does not work to determine the best of al time. Also for each of the categories only being one point difference is actually pretty dumb. Not all top 1s should be valued the same that goes for all placements as well
2021-01-27 15:57
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#60
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah i know the point system isnt the best one and this system is more rewarding towards consistant players than higher peak and lower lows
2021-01-27 16:10
#61
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Europe thaifinnen
Fucked up in the description and meant to say see you guys on 20th of January 2022 insted of 2021
2021-01-27 16:31
This is the most pointless threat ever. No one cares lol about ur thoughts or ranking system.
2021-01-27 16:32
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#63
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Europe thaifinnen
1 why is it pointless? 2 Some people unlike you has expressed their interest in previous and this thread 3 If you dont like it I dont see any reason for you to comment
2021-01-27 16:35
9 replies
delete the thread instead. Wannabe analyst
2021-01-27 16:37
8 replies
#69
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Czech Republic poledne
it is really good i think hltv should have ranking liek this it shows who is jsut one year hit and who is good for long time
2021-01-27 16:42
#70
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Europe thaifinnen
1 its impossible to delete a thread unless you're an admin which im not and you probably arent either. 2 you're obviously to imature to have a real conversation so goodbye
2021-01-27 16:43
6 replies
get a life geek
2021-01-27 17:36
5 replies
says the guy who gets upset by a hltv thread xd nt latvia
2021-01-27 19:29
4 replies
Says the eu flag. Nuff said
2021-01-27 19:54
3 replies
Im swedish so whats your argument now?
2021-01-27 20:04
2 replies
That u hide ur nationality like a little puss puss. Have a nice day.
2021-01-27 20:05
1 reply
I find the swedish flag ugly so i choose to use the EU flag but ok. Thank you I will, have a nice day in Latvia my friend.
2021-01-27 20:07
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Finland eIe
>No one cares >Proceeds to open the thread and comment on it
2021-01-28 16:37
5 replies
i dont care about shit he wrote. i care to provide info that his info is meaningless.
2021-01-28 17:03
3 replies
#146
perk  | 
Finland eIe
Bumping his thread only makes his thread stay longer on the front page
2021-01-28 17:12
2 replies
I love to help
2021-01-28 17:14
+1
2021-01-29 14:28
+1
2021-01-29 14:27
If you find a way to include majors and other a tier tournaments, as well as performances in crucial matches this list could become valid. Cheers
2021-01-27 16:38
8 replies
#71
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Europe thaifinnen
might look into this since theres no majors (might be one in october). what counts as crucial games in your opinion?
2021-01-27 16:46
7 replies
For the simplicity for the argument I would stick to important games being only finals performances. This will help being consistently objective. And I would say that any tournament that had invited at least 5 top 10 teams of the given time period should be considered a tier a tournament. For example simples last performance in the blast series was staggering, now I'm not a big simple fan, but being an objective fan of csgo I think that was something to behold of. So even though this was not a major, a performance like that should be taking into consideration. Also last year's zywoo performance against navi in the final was incredible. So you have to set the framework yourself for what a tier a tournament is, because I believe that winning a tier a tournament today is far more difficult than winning a major 4 years ago. It is really difficult to create an objective framework, but it should be doable. If you want I would be willing to help you once I am done with my exam period tomorrow, send me your discord name and we can put some time into this.
2021-01-27 16:55
6 replies
#78
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Europe thaifinnen
this sounds like a interesting concept. yeah would be great with some help
2021-01-27 17:02
#79
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Czech Republic poledne
it is already done, i saw it somewhere
2021-01-27 17:03
3 replies
you dont happen to have the link or title of the thread?
2021-01-27 17:27
2 replies
#103
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Czech Republic poledne
no sorry i will try to look for it, but it wasn´t on hltv
2021-01-27 17:38
1 reply
oh okey i appreciate it man
2021-01-27 19:30
#82
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Europe thaifinnen
and my dc name is the same as here
2021-01-27 17:04
#68
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Czech Republic poledne
nice really interesting to se this
2021-01-27 16:42
1 reply
#72
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Europe thaifinnen
thank you man hopefully you dont miss the next years list
2021-01-27 16:47
This is a cool list :) My only suggestion to make it more reflective of the actual top 20 of all time is maybe to weight top 1 a little more, give some point value to majors/major mvps, and give some point value to carrying shitty teams (and as such having a lower hltv ranking even though they dominate the server). I also liked the suggestion for making top 20 start from 5 points. Maybe you could make a All time top 20 ranking 2.0???
2021-01-27 16:51
1 reply
#89
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Europe thaifinnen
thanks man. yeah i know i should put more value over the placements but I didnt when I did the first list and I just feelt it wouldnt be fair if i changed the system now, but i agree with you. i might do one with a different point system which include majors and rating etc
2021-01-27 17:10
#75
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Nepal Aguminok
HAHAHAH
2021-01-27 16:53
3 replies
#83
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Europe thaifinnen
xd?
2021-01-27 17:05
2 replies
#93
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Nepal Aguminok
ye just luled the fuck out when saw device #1
2021-01-27 17:14
1 reply
#97
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Europe thaifinnen
well he is the most consistant player of all time thats why he has such a high rating. yes its weird since he has never been ranked #1 in any top 20 year but if you put them all together he is the most consitant of them all and it counts for something
2021-01-27 17:17
The goats are Forest, Device and Zywoo
2021-01-27 16:55
6 replies
#84
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Europe thaifinnen
zywoo who has 2 years in competitve csgo? Device is a valid contender the only issue with him is not being #1 in any year f0rest in all cs maybe. in csgo no
2021-01-27 17:06
5 replies
Forest in all CS Device in csgo Zywoo for being the best player by far to ever touch the game.
2021-01-29 03:15
4 replies
zywoo by far? S1mple disagrees
2021-01-29 14:16
3 replies
he is good but not close to Zywoo. Too much inflated bait stats.
2021-01-30 00:03
2 replies
xd bait stats? just look at s1mple how he was putting up incredible fight vs astralis 2018 he is the most skilled csgo player no point denying it. but zywoo has the potential yes
2021-01-30 01:40
1 reply
Zywoo is more talented. He doesn’t even play all day long like simp. Without all the bait stats, simps inability for teamwork and toxicity would place him under top 5. In CS you need to be a good team player, something he should learn. Players like Zywoo and device are great team players, that is why they win and Navi lose.
2021-01-30 06:48
good research
2021-01-27 17:03
1 reply
#85
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Europe thaifinnen
thank you man i appreciate it
2021-01-27 17:07
cold and gtr with 2 top1s behind ppl without any top1 is very contraditory imo,top1 should reward more points,lower top20 positions like 20 or 19 should count more too,in this way being outside of top10 is useless to the ranks,+it would be nice if you give extra points for majors mvps and top5 rating in majors imo this system have some flaws but the results are decent in great part of the scenarios
2021-01-27 17:04
5 replies
#86
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Europe thaifinnen
yeah ik man i've thought about it a lot but since i already made lists before this one it wouldnt be fair to change the whole point system now but thx for the feedback
2021-01-27 17:08
he star this top in 2013 so gtr only 3 top 20 if he counts from 2010 GTR have 91 points
2021-01-27 20:19
3 replies
yeah but 2010 was 1.6 not csgo
2021-01-27 22:20
2 replies
a 3 years top 20 player cant be goat of cs:go even if he win 2 top 1
2021-01-28 02:05
1 reply
this list isnt to "prove" who is the best of all-time. I just simply like to do these lists every year and it shows just the leaderboard in terms of top 20 points. I myself dont see Dev1ce as the best csgo player of all time but thats just my opinion
2021-01-29 14:30
NiKo Top 3 Pog
2021-01-27 17:09
1 reply
#90
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Europe thaifinnen
he has been doing pretty good in his years in the top 20 lists
2021-01-27 17:11
#88
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Russia Canvi
It would show you the real ranking if you sort the list by expected value of eachs player sample.
2021-01-27 17:09
7 replies
#91
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Europe thaifinnen
how do you mean?
2021-01-27 17:12
4 replies
#94
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Russia Canvi
The easiest way is to get mean but #92. It is a lot more complicated and will need some time to come up with the working model.
2021-01-27 17:14
#95
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Russia Canvi
But the idea of making such list is rly cool. I liked it.
2021-01-27 17:15
2 replies
#98
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Europe thaifinnen
#96 sounds like a cool idea but like I said would require some time but i really like the idea
2021-01-27 17:18
#99
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Europe thaifinnen
i was talking with another guy @gofundme5 in this thread about making a list which include ratings in crucial games and tournaments ratings to add more context and change the point system a bit if you're interested
2021-01-27 17:22
#92
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Russia Canvi
Each player should be in the solitary conditions. For example coldzera and Fallen had good years while Zywoo had only 2 years of pro cs and was top 1 in each of them. Would work if we built some scoring system that scores each player differently depending on the results each year. This could potentially give us the real list of greatest of the all time since the start of cs.
2021-01-27 17:12
1 reply
#96
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Europe thaifinnen
it sounds interesting but it would require some time which im not certain i posess atm
2021-01-27 17:15
bottronic #10? LUL
2021-01-27 17:37
1 reply
well he got 4-5-6 placements in 3 years so its pretty good
2021-01-27 19:31
#114
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Brazil guhzzz
Scream TOP 20 LUL
2021-01-27 20:09
1 reply
since he has multiple top 20 placements yes he ended up in the top 20 in my point system
2021-01-27 20:10
Apparently you don't get the meaning of average You shall consider all year player is playing,not only year he appears in top20... Shox AVG 13pts lol. So shox made top8 every year ? No he did it only 4 time... So consider your point, if zywoo make top 20 in 2021 he will have an AVG of 13.666 And the if make out of the top 20 he will stil have an average of 20....
2021-01-27 22:52
9 replies
and? 1 thing is average post per year and another is avg points per year cuz if zywoo get 20 (in 2021 ranking)-1-1 its avg POS per year drop a lot from 1 to 8.6666
2021-01-28 02:11
5 replies
You clearly don't get my point. I'm saying AVG should give an idée of consistency of the player. So you shall just count year outside of the top 20 as a 0 point year. Otherwise, you get dosia with a 17pts average, the same than simple.... The AVG of dosia shall not be 17/1=17, but shall be 17/8 =2 pts if we consider dosia started high csgo level 8 years ago (random example I don't know when he started)
2021-01-28 18:29
4 replies
if u explain like this first time is +1 dude its true if we use dev1ce example change from 15.42 to 13,5
2021-01-28 18:37
3 replies
Which is I think the best consistency ever, device is clearly the most consistent player ever, and for me the goat. I'll put zywoo apart, who has a true 20pts AVG, but still has to prove his consistency trough the year
2021-01-28 18:54
2 replies
the think he can do in future is insane for me zywoo will be the absolute goat in future zywwo learn danish and join astralis new era XD
2021-01-28 18:59
dev1ce is by far the most consistant player ever (in csgo) has many achievments to back up the goat claim but for me he needs to be #1 in in a top 20 list to call himself goat. IMO Coldzera has the goat claim atm since he had both achievements and skill. meanwhile S1mple and Zywoo are both young and if they can win more trophies and atleast one major they could be in the claim for goat
2021-01-29 14:35
and if we use ur example then s1mple is a 5 time 3 place? no he get a 4 and a 8
2021-01-28 02:13
this list only counts placements in top 20 for all the years i get your point but as i've stated this list only cares about top 20 placements
2021-01-29 14:18
plus 1, doesnt make sense like that
2021-02-02 01:27
nice
2021-01-28 02:27
1 reply
thanks man
2021-01-29 14:18
avg pont should enclude years they stll compete as 0
2021-01-28 16:32
1 reply
2021-01-29 14:18
#150
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France rasavejo
Zywoo average = 20 lol
2021-01-28 18:42
3 replies
pretty impressive to only have 2 top 20 placements and being #1 in both
2021-01-29 14:19
2 replies
#162
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France rasavejo
yep, one of the best to ever press start
2021-01-29 14:22
1 reply
lets just see how long he can continue playing at this level, will be interesting!
2021-01-29 14:23
30 replies
so whats your point?
2021-01-29 14:20
29 replies
#170
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Sweden Albikin
copy pasta reported
2021-01-29 23:48
28 replies
if you actually read my post you would see my previous lists 2013-2017, 2013-2018, 2013-2019 but nt trying to claim i stole it from you xd 0/8
2021-01-30 01:39
27 replies
#179
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Sweden Albikin
you just steal list ez report
2021-01-30 16:22
26 replies
0/8
2021-01-30 18:10
25 replies
#182
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Sweden Albikin
your list yeah
2021-01-31 04:22
24 replies
1 your list is up to 20 names mine is 50+ 2 your list doesnt show any points or anything mine does 3 your thread is inferior to mine
2021-01-31 21:32
23 replies
#186
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Sweden Albikin
your thread is dead lol I got 377 total comments while you are sub 200 go learn how to hltv mens
2021-01-31 22:29
22 replies
wow so more comments = better list? nt kiddo my list is full while yours only contain the top 20. no points are shown or any info. boy time for you to stop letting me live in your head rent free xd
2021-01-31 22:39
21 replies
#193
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Sweden Albikin
"3 your thread is inferior to mine" you are slow? huh Your thread is dead retard
2021-02-01 13:16
20 replies
your thread is lol? your thread doesnt say anything lol just names no context or points or anything
2021-02-01 15:33
19 replies
#197
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Sweden Albikin
okay dude you obviously have some delusions good luck with finding a doctor:)
2021-02-01 17:30
18 replies
xd look at your list it sucks lol?
2021-02-01 21:35
17 replies
#207
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Sweden Albikin
as said you are delusional gl with doctor
2021-02-02 01:22
16 replies
xd good luck letting me live in your head rent free
2021-02-02 17:13
15 replies
#212
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Sweden Albikin
are you slow? you just learned what that means so you gotta keep on saying it?
2021-02-02 18:59
14 replies
you litteraly cant stop responding to me and proving me right xd
2021-02-02 20:22
13 replies
#214
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Sweden Albikin
you are responding to me moron
2021-02-03 03:56
12 replies
why would i its my thread lol
2021-02-03 19:51
11 replies
#218
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Sweden Albikin
Because I say something to end the conversation while you say "haAhaH yOu aRE rEspoNdinG tO mE" like im sorry you were negleted your whole childhood but you are supposed to put something in a post
2021-02-03 21:58
10 replies
bruh you have been the one dodging to give me a good answer the whole time. i said your list wasnt as good as mine since you didnt include points or any context and you couldnt give 1 reason to why yours was the better. nt dog
2021-02-03 22:55
9 replies
#220
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Sweden Albikin
I dont need to put in points because Im not a retard who is semi aggressive moron, your only point is "imo your list is bad" well your thread is as dead as your personality bye bitch
2021-02-04 15:53
8 replies
which means your list is worse since it says nothing. your thread havnt got a comment for days but mine is the one who is dead nice logic sär
2021-02-04 16:14
7 replies
#222
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Sweden Albikin
you dont seem very bright do you? anyways im done keeping your thread alive your thread is dead bye bitch
2021-02-04 16:17
6 replies
if im not bright what does that make you. the same goes for your thread so idk why your acting like yours alive and well xd dog
2021-02-05 13:28
5 replies
#224
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Sweden Albikin
Because it was posted in January you fucking moron, you obviously have some brain delay...
2021-02-05 16:51
4 replies
and so was mine you fucking moron, you obviously have some brain delay...
2021-02-07 18:29
3 replies
#234
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Sweden Albikin
and the only comments you have this month is from me you moron, Mine was from first to last 11 days with almost 400 comments, your are 9 days with less than 300 comments by bitch cry me a river or 2 delusional cuck
2021-02-07 19:50
2 replies
cry is free man. idk why you're taking this so personal xd its about hltv threads and your list still sucks compared to mine xd
2021-02-11 21:49
1 reply
#236
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Sweden Albikin
You are still responding because you are hurt and I am the only one keeping your thread alive because you are sad
2021-02-12 17:01
all hail god DEVVE
2021-01-30 01:08
pretty solid, i made a list a while ago and its fairly similar hltv.org/forums/threads/2398163/best-csg..
2021-01-30 01:48
1 reply
thanks man, i checked your thread and it was interesting
2021-01-31 21:42
my top 20 of all time 1 device 2 s1mple 3 NiKo 4 f0rest 5 coldzera 6 olofmeister 7 dupreeh 8 kennyS 9 shox 10 elige 11 guardian 12 flusha 13 get_right 14 magisk 15 snax 16 rain 17 xypex 18 electronic 19 JW 20 falleN
2021-01-31 22:51
4 replies
solid list, but no ZywOo?
2021-02-01 17:40
3 replies
1 more year
2021-02-01 19:16
2 replies
well you have elige there. even if elige has been more time on competitive cs, the shined on 2019 and 2020 and even at his best he was no where close to zywoo. Zywoo is at least a top 10 of all time.
2021-02-01 22:47
1 reply
elige has been insane since 2015
2021-02-01 22:57
Instead of & you should write / next time
2021-01-31 23:04
1 reply
i'll keep that in mind
2021-02-01 12:54
#190
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Denmark KalasYoP
Seems just about right, except that it's not a top 20 list, like the title suggests.
2021-01-31 23:07
1 reply
its all of the top 20 combined
2021-02-01 12:54
I respect your effort, and is naturally glad to see Dev1ce on top. But by your method four times 2nd place is worth more than three times 1st place and one time 10th. It simply doesn´t work that way - #1 is remembered and celebrated much more than #2, just like the prize money are much bigger for an event winner. Your system needs an adjustment, so it´s graded better for the winner. Like the F1 racing point system: The winner receives 25 points, the second-place finisher 18 points, with 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 and 1 points for positions 3 through 10, respectively. On top of that should be added some bonus points for Titles and MVPs.
2021-02-01 17:49
3 replies
yeah ik the point system isnt the best. this system is more rewarding for consistancy
2021-02-01 21:36
2 replies
Still an interesting read :o)
2021-02-01 23:20
1 reply
thx man
2021-02-02 17:12
Nice thread
2021-02-02 17:14
1 reply
thx man
2021-02-03 19:51
#215
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Argentina BlanKsT
True
2021-02-03 04:12
Terrible ranking #20 = 1pt ? So if a player is #20 15 times this means that he is not better than a player that is #1 one time ???
2021-02-05 17:51
That is a huge flaw to this type of ranking how can you called best of all time when your list doesnt reward consistent placing in the top 20 ? However you look at this ranking there is a flaw, think more about it add more stuff you cant just leave it like that, i mean in theory you can but its not a real system in my opinion
2021-02-05 18:01
Award #1 more, the difference between #1 and #2 is not big but still, the player that is #1 gets to be called the best player of X year for the rest of history this is a huge achievemnt and they should recieve more points, if you dont do that you end up with wierd situations like JW = ZyWoo
2021-02-05 18:11
Also dont be lazy add 2011 and 2010 to the ranking there is no reason of not uncluding those
2021-02-05 18:14
Eclipse
1.38
SKDC
2.88
StylDunow
1.52
GROND
2.52
Astralis Talent
1.12
Vilay
4.08
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