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Russia ty1ercs 
What do you think, who is the best csgo (not 1.6) player of all time? s1mple - greatest performance ever 2018. To let you know, how good he was - he was 5th %hs player while being main sniper of his team ZywOo - reached 1st place in his 1st year of pro career and got number 1 spot 2nd time in 2020 device - the most stable player: 5 times in top-3 and 6 times in a row in top-5 and 18 mvp medals and 4 times major winner coldzera - 2x in a row best hltv player in the world. He changed csgo mechanics usage and his impact of the Luminosity/SK wins was biggest. Also, never chockes on grand finals, on the other hand, always carried his team on the big stages Imo, it's coldzera, cuz he changed csgo more than the other guys and never chokes in grandfinals
2021-01-27 14:13
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Karrigan is up there at least
2021-01-27 14:14
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#79
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France Jaune
LOL
2021-01-28 02:30
Dude he's not even up there for IGL's...
2021-01-28 04:30
13 replies
I laughed Any more jokes coming?
2021-01-28 10:41
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In top 5? Nope. Astralis literally got better as soon as he left and he choked on his only chance at winning a major.
2021-01-28 17:24
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Have you seen how much karrigan has won? Maybe he didnt fit with astralis
2021-01-28 17:32
he definitely is
2021-01-28 10:54
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#144 He's definitely not up there. If you mean top 15 or at best top 10, maybe...
2021-01-28 17:24
and happy is? :D
2021-01-28 17:23
7 replies
Well... yes? Obviously lol.
2021-01-28 17:23
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nt karrigan in the goat conversation > happy
2021-01-28 17:24
5 replies
2 majors, 1 major mvp lol.
2021-01-28 17:26
4 replies
taco 2 majors, taco goat
2021-01-28 17:27
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MVP? Literally bottom of his team. Nope. Happy actually did well for both majors he won. You're comparing the top of the team during a win to the bottom.
2021-01-28 17:28
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nt happy wasn't top at cluj , he was 3rd
2021-01-28 17:33
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Watch G2 vs nV on Inferno That's the map the entire tournament run came down to. Either way always better than Taco.
2021-01-28 17:34
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
stop it........ ofc device.
2021-01-27 14:14
27 replies
if it's device, why he never been top-1?
2021-01-27 14:15
24 replies
Because he has been playing for greatest team as well for last 3 years - that makes the difference. Astralis has 5 good players comparing to other teams.
2021-01-27 14:19
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but his pure skills aren't that high as s1mple's or ZywOo's. Or even coldzera's. For example, Pele has most world cups and greatest stats. On the other hand, Maradona doesn't have much achievments (only 1 World Cup and 1 UEFA Cup). But most people said, that Maradona is the greatest, cuz his individual skills are best of all time
2021-01-27 14:25
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Yep, understand your point. It's a matter of opinion, which is better: being best player in best team of the world or be just greatest individual. For me with team sport background, it is being the best of best team.
2021-01-27 14:30
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But honesty he is not best in astralis xyp is better for sure
2021-01-27 19:27
#65
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Russia mrPIVO
marawhona?
2021-01-27 20:05
goat is not pure skils u need succes+skills to be goat
2021-01-28 02:34
#86
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North America Yurkn
Pure skills aren't necessarily as important as achievements, single-handedly carrying your team too this many championships is soo much worth it than number 1 ranks, he is a team player and constantly performs and wins
2021-01-28 04:23
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But he doesn't "single handedly carrying his team". Case closed.
2021-01-28 17:49
device>coldzera
2021-01-28 13:28
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
cuz he is not statpadder, just plays safely for the team and for the win, thats why he is 4x major winner and 2x major mvp. but in 3-4 years either zywoo or s1mple can take it, depending on how it goes with them and device
2021-01-27 14:21
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#23
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
"Stat-padder" It's not really a thing at the highest level, though...
2021-01-27 14:26
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#26
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
i know, but there is a high risk-reward to playing like s0mple or zyw00, no need to be playing like that in astralis where everyone puts in good work
2021-01-27 14:33
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#28
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yeah, that I can agree with. Astralis are very coordinated as a unit, whereas s1mple or ZywOo only excel due to the sheer star power one player brings.
2021-01-27 14:36
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#87
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United States GGtho
Freakin' boomer acts like he knows a thing or two about CS kkkkkk
2021-01-28 04:26
yes it is
2021-01-27 14:32
8 replies
#29
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Not really... it is assumed by many but it kind of foils when you actually take into account what a professional-level game is. There is no time to pad-stats, it is follow the IGL and play to the best of your abilities as a unit.
2021-01-27 14:37
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no time to pad stats ??????? wtf are you on about -.- if u cant see the difference between simple/zywoo and Devices playstyle then my friend i am sorry with what im about to tell you. youre clueless...
2021-01-27 15:07
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#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Assuming ZywOo's/s1mple's play-style to be that of stat-padding is your callous assumption, I explained the reality to you.
2021-01-27 15:10
5 replies
my assumption? it is as you put it the reality
2021-01-27 15:37
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#51
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You assume ZywOo's and s1mple's play-style to be that of a stat-padding one. Why?
2021-01-27 15:39
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mate if u cant see the difference then there is really no point in trying to explain it to you.. I just i wanna know one thing, what is ur rank on faceit? youre elo. would clarify a lot for me
2021-01-27 15:46
2 replies
thing u need be faceit level 10 to undestand game strat is stupid dude
2021-01-28 02:38
#95
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Providing that is not at all necessary... Yet again another assumption.
2021-01-28 04:31
who cars about hltv top1...major mvps is where its at
2021-01-27 15:45
+1
2021-01-27 14:15
#17
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Poland morosek
+1
2021-01-27 14:22
what did coldzera change in csgo??
2021-01-27 14:15
7 replies
Double jumping awp no scope on mirage
2021-01-27 14:16
he was the first player, who used csgo mechanics in 100%. ctrl usage most of time, spray, in game role and angle abusion
2021-01-27 14:17
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and baiting
2021-01-27 14:18
4 replies
yes. But he did it perfectly
2021-01-27 14:18
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Russia Izyaaaa
bruh
2021-01-27 14:25
I prefer to play with a baiter and win majors, than playing with noobs and not even win a game in faceit
2021-01-27 22:35
Baiting is an art, bait and win rounds, what more you can possible ask?
2021-01-28 17:49
No NiKo 0/8
2021-01-27 14:16
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i didnt know wasting the potential of your teammates for years made you a goat candidate
2021-01-27 14:20
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So you mean to say s1mple shouldn't be a GOAT candidate?
2021-01-27 14:22
4 replies
Choko omegalol
2021-01-28 05:20
3 replies
s0mple OMEGALUL
2021-01-28 05:22
2 replies
CRY MORE YELLOW TEETH
2021-01-28 13:12
1 reply
f0rsaken kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-01-28 14:05
#20
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
What FaZe games are you watching? Do users still have this callous presumption? EDIT: I posted the wrong team...
2021-01-27 14:24
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#88
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United States GGtho
Nt boom boomrer
2021-01-28 04:27
s1mple/zywoo - GOATS skillwise dev1ce - GOAT achievementwise Cold - great player, but he picked the wrong path
2021-01-27 14:20
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#24
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France Carrotaboy
+1
2021-01-27 14:28
-1
2021-01-27 15:04
+1
2021-01-28 05:07
not niko
2021-01-27 14:20
so are you talking about the goat or about the best player...?
2021-01-27 14:20
#19
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There can be no one true "GOAT", so I like the fact you made contenders. :) Device GTR f0rest Coldzera Olofmeister Flusha s1mple ZywOo Dupreeh Gla1ve NiKo + probably more... All veritable contenders in their own right depending on the fan in question.
2021-01-27 14:22
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#90
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United States GGtho
Not even close
2021-01-28 04:28
10 replies
#94
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I was expecting a "boomer" reply, friend. I got two out of three thus far... Did you read the thread I made breaking down the conundrum of the "GOAT"/"BOAT" premise?
2021-01-28 04:30
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#97
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United States GGtho
Boom boom boomer, friend.
2021-01-28 04:33
8 replies
#98
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Never one to beat a dead horse eh, friend?
2021-01-28 04:34
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#101
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United States GGtho
Boomers words for me is like water off a duck's back, boom boom boomer
2021-01-28 04:38
6 replies
Are you a fan of Basil Brush or do you often throw the term around in a devil may care fashion?
2021-01-28 04:48
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#108
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United States GGtho
Boomer go talk politics shoo now
2021-01-28 04:54
4 replies
I don't get involved with politics. I didn't vote for the new PM and I didn't participate in Brexit - I stayed out and I will continue to stay out of politics. You are the one continuing to reply to me, so stating "shoo now" is kind of hypocritical and redundant, friend. You are baiting me, we all know this, yet I will reply in kind regardless.
2021-01-28 04:59
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#111
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United States GGtho
Go out for a walk and quit hltv boomer
2021-01-28 05:03
2 replies
Have a good day, friend.
2021-01-28 05:05
1 reply
#114
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United States GGtho
Aight catch ya later booms, don't trip and fall while walking outside and stay away from fast moving objects.
2021-01-28 05:10
definitely a little too many here. device, gtr, coldzera, olof, s1mple and zywoo are the only reasonable contenders.
2021-01-28 04:34
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I just tried to list as many as possible, the plausibility of such candidates being "GOAT" is up for contention, obviously.
2021-01-28 04:47
niko, kennys, fallen
2021-01-28 17:34
Yes, I agree
2021-01-28 21:45
either dev for consistency or s1mple for how good hes been for so long. ZywOo has had a really short carrer to be the GOAT. Cold is just not at their level.
2021-01-27 14:55
what does the most dominant or best player on the specefic teams in whatever sport always gets judged by? By Mvps, stats obv but most importantly rings/championships Michael Jordan - Basketball - 6 Rings in 6 Finals 6 Finals Mvps Roger federe - Tennis - 20 grand Slams Serena Williams - 23 Grand slams Ronaldo/Messi - Football - like 20 titles between them most goals both of them etc Tom brady - NFL/American Football - 6 Superbowls out of 9 might be 7 superbowls in a few weeks. So my point is why does people still try to make the argument it is not Device? Has the most Mvps, has won the most important tournament 4 times and is 2 times Mvp at majors I get that hes stats isent on par with Simple/zywoo but the same can be said that their overall wins at tournaments is not compared to him.
2021-01-27 14:57
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what about pele my dude
2021-01-27 15:08
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#92
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United States GGtho
Don't car about pelo my dude
2021-01-28 04:30
#44
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Denmark KingDevice
I like it, +1
2021-01-27 15:10
I mean sure you probs didn't know about it but both of them have above 30 titles sooo. 11 B'dors between them and 10 European golden boots. They both are GOAT's but it just comes down to preference just like here in cs.
2021-01-28 17:55
In terms of individual skill and performance in football, no one come close to Messi(Or CR7), but in CS, they are currently two players that are significantly better than Device individual wise, there are players that are better than him individually too, it's not all about the achievements.
2021-01-28 18:08
If device pick too boring for you, then it is coldzera ofc.
2021-01-27 14:59
#33
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Lithuania Sedge
device - the most "stable player" no, he was just in the most stable team.
2021-01-27 15:01
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#35
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United Kingdom Dinoblitx
Device hasn't had a single negative hltv rating since 2018 That's 2 years of consistency, over 700 days, it's pretty obvious he's the GOAT with his achievements, and placements in the top 3 for 5 years
2021-01-27 15:04
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#42
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Lithuania Sedge
honestly, in the end it all comes down to how you define 'goat'... in general, the term 'goat' as far as I am concerned refers to a single individual, not a team. Unless you specifically say goat team, then I'd say it's Astralis... but when it comes to the player, individually, mechanically and in terms of game sense... simple is far better, and far more intelligent. and honestly, in my eyes magisk and gla1ve are both better than device.
2021-01-27 15:09
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#45
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Denmark KingDevice
Yes s1mple is better than device mechanicly, no doubt. The thing is, Navi has one star-player, he baits and gets setup by teammates, most of the time, therefore his stats are wayyy better (nothing bad in this). Astralis on the other hand isnt relying on Device to shine for them to win, he plays a team-game, holds corners which some people might call boring, but it worked out pretty well for them to say the least. The achievements of device speaks for themself tbh, 4 major, 2 major mvps, 18? mvps in total, 6 years in top 5 in a row Dont 'name checks out' here haha
2021-01-27 15:17
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#127
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Lithuania 7000won
+1
2021-01-28 11:02
Exactly. They don't play for 1 player cause others can step up too. If you have shit team there is nothing u can do if you play like Astralis. You need to play for the better player in the team and that's a fact.
2021-01-28 17:57
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+1, thats is why its so hard to tell who's the goat. S1mple mechanicly is by far the best. Device on the other hand revolutionied the game and sniping alongside Astralis, which helped him achieve everything he has done so far.
2021-01-29 08:15
5 replies
I mean,you are right,but it's easier to be consistent on a team where EVERYONE can step up. Not taking anything away from him tho. I think telling who is the goat is also by people who remember them. Like their iconic plays,nobody is gonna remember someone because he was consistent,and like i said i'm not taking anything away from device it's just how it is and that's my opinion. I really don't think there is goat in cs:go yet. Only cause most of the potential goat's still play so yeah. On the other hand cs overall goat imo is GTR or f0rest.
2021-01-30 09:01
4 replies
I feel ya, but who wont remeber quadruple major winner
2021-01-31 20:16
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I mean true. But they will remember more Astralis and their INSANE tactics and insane grenade use.
2021-02-01 12:38
2 replies
Might be true yea, i'm prolly a lil bit biased but i agree yeah.
2021-02-01 12:48
1 reply
Everyone is biased towards their team. It's gucci,atleast u acknowledge that.
2021-02-01 12:57
#52
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It is still subjective, friend.
2021-01-27 15:40
7 replies
Nice opinion! Well done!
2021-01-27 19:13
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#63
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Welcome back, friend. :) Always a pleasure to see you. I hope you are doing well at the moment. ^^ PS: I can reply again? Odd...
2021-01-27 19:21
5 replies
Well Jonathan hates me and i suspect he thinks im a garbage human being but atleast i am here! Thats something!
2021-01-27 21:39
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#102
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United States GGtho
Damn boomers uniting lmao
2021-01-28 04:41
3 replies
I dont understand!
2021-01-28 11:03
2 replies
dude stop simping jonty wtf nice role play tho
2021-01-29 16:13
1 reply
Please dont taint our relationship!
2021-01-29 16:52
can say only for 1.6, as csgo is still going strong!
2021-01-27 15:01
Imo cold shouldn't even be on the list. As of right now dev1ce is the GOAT but it may change in the future if s1mple and Zywoo keep up their performance.
2021-01-27 15:05
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If u don't think he is in that list u are delusional obviously he should be on top of zywoo in the goat conversation
2021-01-27 15:07
i think cold is 2nd on the GOAT list but the distance btwn device and cold is pretty massive
2021-01-27 15:19
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#71
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Brazil MrLucas
+1
2021-01-27 22:26
0/8 cold>zywho, s1mple
2021-01-28 17:35
It is device case closed
2021-01-27 15:06
8 replies
Liquid has 9 Lan tittles Cold has 13 plus 2 majors.. being a two time major champ and mvp hahahahaahahahahaha that was funny buddy who chokes more? don't you know how to count? didnt the finals of the 2016 major were against Liquid? UUAHAHAUHAUHUAHUHAU
2021-01-28 04:13
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#103
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United States GGtho
Overated bot on faze in 2021 omegalul
2021-01-28 04:43
idk why you have to attack liquid when i'm talking about the subject of coldzera. I'm not saying that Liquid doesn't choke more than coldzera, I'm saying that coldzera chokes a lot before the grand finals of events, which is why his "good performances in grand finals" stand out
2021-01-28 15:48
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NA logic. Choker is someone who doesnt perform in high pressure situation to win. If coldzera chokes before he makes it to the finals then surely when he reaches the finals he should choke even harder than he would have if he was in the semis and quarters. He is known as one of the best clutch players of all time so if he was a choker then why is he able to pull off astounding clutches on the biggest of stages? Think back to when he 1v3'd Liquid at Cologne 2016 or when he pulled off a 1v3 vs FaZe at Sydney?
2021-01-28 17:45
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1. you never rebut the fact that coldzera chokes before the grand finals of events, even if a choker is usually one that chokes in high pressure situations, that doesn't mean that coldzera is one that chokes in high pressure situations. I agree that he performs in grand finals but the problem is that he chokes far too often in non grand final situations. Additionally, coldzera is a freak of a talent, i'm not one to disagree, it also means that his performance is completely different from other players, he may play better with more pressure(such as a grand final) which is proven through psychological laws such as Yerkes-Dodson and play worse with less pressure(such as a quarterfinal or group stage match). Lastly you provided 2 situations where he clutched in the grand finals in the multitude of grand finals that he's attended when he's played thousands of rounds 2. independent of this point, device just far surpasses coldzera, coldzera is a great player and was phenomenal in his 2 year prime(probably a top 2-3 2 year performance of all time only behind zywoo and s1mple in 2019-2020 if behind them at all) but device is ahead in all aspects aside from highest peaks, hltv top 1s, and overall rating(which he is only .01 rating behind all time and device has 0.01 better rating at big events all time). 18>>8 MVPs, 2 major MVPs=2 major MVPs, 24 LAN trophies>13 LAN titles, 6 year of HLTV top 5 in a row>2 year of HLTV top 5 in a row. Not dogging on cold, just not as "great" as device as greatness implies a sense of achievement and longevity. Cold is the 2nd greatest player of CS GO for now but if s1mple gets a major, that can easily change
2021-01-28 18:00
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"which is proven through psychological laws such as Yerkes-Dodson and play worse with less pressure" hahahaha shut the fuck up kid.. You can't can call a Pro Player a choker just because he cant perform at his peak 100% of the time, everyone loses... just because Liquid as team for exemple has so many second places with a high level team doesnt mean they are chokers.. they are fucking humans not machines. Don't try to justify all the crap you said talking all that bolox. What Coldzera has accomplished is his carrer is awesome and you tried to belittle it in you first toxic comment... These guys arent choking.. CS is getting fucking competitive each year.. full of up incoming talents. Nobody said a thing about Device not being the greatest... everybody that follows the game knows that. S1mple to get in the conversation needs more tittles.. one major and at least one more time word's best player but its not an easy task since Zywoo with a two years Cs carrer is surpassing him. P1mple is playing CS GO in high level since 2016. Accomplishments From 2016 to 2021: world's best player: 1 time Tittles: 9 Mvp's: 12 No majors Zywho with a two FUCKING year CS GO carrer in high level: world's best player: Two times Tittles: 5 Mvp's: 11 No majors
2021-01-28 18:55
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your comments seems to contradict each other, you first say liquid chokes more then you say that liquid aren't chokers, i agree that coldzera is a beast and he has one of the best peaks of all time if not the greatest. The problem is, coldzera looks better in grand finals since he fails to choke in grand finals because he usually does worse in semifinals and quarterfinals(no hate against him, performing in nearly every grand final is amazing, just saying that it's more impressive that it seems) to me olof is still ahead of s1mple and zywoo until either get a major, s1mple and zywoo would make very good competition for 2nd place as the GOAT if they were to win a major
2021-01-28 19:31
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No they don't contradict each other. You said that Cold chokes a lot I just did a comparison with Team Liquid.. like if that is choking who chokes more.. kind of a joke. I'am huge team Liquid fan.. even more now with fallen.. that is one of my favorite players of all time. I agree with you.. Olof is a legend and has a vast history of achievements. Its kind of impossible for me thinking in player and call him goat that are so many deserving and legendary pros like, F0rest, Neo, Fallen, Fer, JW, Zeus, dupreeh, flusha, pasha, edward.. Since this game is not about just one guy.. its about a hole team
2021-01-28 20:27
s1mple is the greatest of all time. but recently zywoo has been proving himself to be one of the greatest of all time, if not soon enough, the greatest. device could be also up there but he's a shit solo player unlike s1mple and zywoo, who are beasts. but yea hard to decide but the order right now would be s1mple device then zywoo or s1mple then zywoo whatever you may think
2021-01-27 15:22
#49
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Ireland Sodaking
honestly i'd say Dev1ce here are his main achievements 4x Major Champion 2x Major MVP reached at least the Quarter Final of 14/15 Majors been incredibly consistent for longer then S1mple and Zywoo have been in the game 6 straight years in the top 5
2021-01-27 15:22
#53
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Brazil xxAxx
F0rest - GTR - Device
2021-01-27 15:40
pashaBiceps
2021-01-27 15:44
#57
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Europe thaifinnen
I see it as 5 contenders GTR: #1 2013 & 2014 (4 top 20) Won 1/5 majorfinals (most finals and 5 finals back to back) 23 LAN trophies 10 LAN MVP Olofmeister: #1 2015 (4 top 20) Won 2/3 Majorfinals (first back to back majorwins) 23 LAN trophies 5 LAN MVP + 1 Major MVP Coldzera: #1 2016 & 2017 (3 top 20) Won 2/2 Majorfinals (back to back) 14 LAN trophies 6 LAN MVP + 2 Major MVP (first back to back major MVPs and tied for most with Dev1ce) Dev1ce: 6/7 Top 5 player (most apperance in top 20 and top 5 and top 3 Won 4/4 majorfinals (first back to back to back majorwins + most major wins) 24 LAN trophies (most LAN trophies) 16 LAN MVP + 2 Major MVPs (tied for most with Coldzera) S1mple: #1 2018 (5 top 20) 0/2 majorfinals won 8 LAN trophies 12 LAN MVPs (second most MVPs)
2021-01-27 15:46
7 replies
1 - Device 2 - Coldzera 3 - Zywho 4 - P1mple
2021-01-27 21:43
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#70
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Europe thaifinnen
how can you rate zywoo in there he has 2 csgo years?
2021-01-27 22:19
5 replies
P1mple is playing CS GO in high level since 2016. Accomplishments From 2016 to 2021: world's best player: 1 time Tittles: 9 Mvp's: 12 No majors Zywho with a two FUCKING year CS GO carrer in high level: world's best player: Two times Tittles: 5 Mvp's: 11 No majors Statistically hes is being seriously surpassed. I don't like zywoo.. Ima S1mple fan.. but numbers don't lie.. the french man is coming strong
2021-01-28 02:27
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2 number 1 =/= goat contender GTR 2 top 1s with major olofmister 3 majors 1 top 1 he need a litle more to be contender but if he wins a major this year uff zywwo joins the goat table only with 3 pro yeasr amazing
2021-01-28 03:04
3 replies
For Sure man!
2021-01-28 04:18
2 replies
#104
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United States GGtho
Fatwhoo fatty, more fat so more skin on the mouse so more control. His smile showing all his gums and neck beard, what a gamer kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-01-28 04:46
1 reply
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-01-28 16:48
S1mple or Dev1ce. S1mple has done it long enough at higher peeks now to warrant being in the same conversation as Dev1ce.
2021-01-27 18:40
shroud
2021-01-27 18:40
Greatest individual player ever? I'd say S1mple at this point, but Zywoo is DEFINITELY hot on his heels and may surpass in 1-2 more years of he continues at this level. Zywoo far and wide best rookie ever. Most impactful, accomplished player? Device, undebatable. I get your argument for Cold, but he just didn't stay at his peak long enough, nor did SK have a strong enough era. His peak was far from s1mple's, accomplishments far from device's.
2021-01-27 18:46
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s1mple 0 major device 0 top 1s cold is a jack of all trades. well rounded in every department
2021-01-28 17:34
What stats do you all look for when determining who is the GOAT? Do you emphasize untouchable peaks? General consistency? Tournament performance? Clutch ability? Some other X factor? Whatever you prioritize, what quantifiable stats would you use to back it up?
2021-01-27 19:14
1 - Device 2 - Coldzera tittles, history and skill
2021-01-27 21:40
1 reply
+1 no way you can call a player goat if he hasnt even won a major. Zywoo hasnt even gotten to major finals
2021-01-28 17:36
device clear, then cold then s1mple though zywoo already almost matched him in 2 years
2021-01-27 21:41
Device? Ok, zoomer
2021-01-27 22:28
#73
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Brazil MrLucas
people that says S1mple or Zywoo just dont understand the the meaning of GOAT... 1 - Device 2 - Cold 3 - GTR 4 - S1mple 5 - Olof 6 - Zywoo
2021-01-27 22:33
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guardian>olof
2021-01-28 17:37
I wouldn't put Cold in so high on the list. And where the hell is f0rest tho. He was insane till 2018.
2021-01-28 18:02
#75
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Brazil Folkz
(+) Coldzera was also the best in the world in its first year of tier 1 and repeated, consecutively, in the second
2021-01-27 22:43
#76
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Europe akkastick
for me the GOAT will be always Glaive
2021-01-27 22:50
1 reply
IGL GOAT
2021-01-28 04:29
Device for sure.
2021-01-27 22:53
glaive
2021-01-28 02:46
#89
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Russia Slavaa
device for sure
2021-01-28 04:27
Goats of csgo - use this tag when players are about to end or have ended their careers. For someone to be a goat, he must be in the scene for at least 5+ years GOATs - Get Right, Forest (you'll know if you haven't started watching since 2018) - Olof, VP (without byali) - Skadoodle, Shroud Upcoming GOATs - device and dupreeh - s0mple, NiKo
2021-01-28 04:33
4 replies
Shroud?????????????????????????
2021-01-28 04:49
Holy shit you cant be serious counting Skadoodle and Shroud.
2021-01-28 10:47
shroud, skadoodle ahahahaha
2021-01-28 17:33
dupreeh ahahaha
2021-01-31 20:28
s1mple is the GOAT of CS
2021-01-28 04:37
At the moment: 1-Device 2-Coldzera 3-S1mple
2021-01-28 04:55
#115
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Australia WaterWolf
>ZyWHO >In the conversation for GOAT pick one
2021-01-28 05:15
4 replies
#119
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Brazil kwdds
zytop1 2 times in a row and he started his career 2 years ago
2021-01-28 05:23
3 replies
cold did the same plus he got 2 majors men
2021-01-28 10:49
2 replies
#173
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Brazil kwdds
man for me coldzera is sure the goat of csgo to be honest, but he didnt, he started his career before 2015, and people cant take the credits from zywoo, because he sure is good af
2021-01-28 18:28
1 reply
if cold started his career before 2015 zywoo started before 2019 too hltv.org/matches/2316937/aaa-vs-virtuspr..
2021-01-28 19:00
get right next
2021-01-28 05:23
zywoo was also active pro in 2018 :)
2021-01-28 10:51
i think chris
2021-01-28 10:54
#126
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Germany Constikdw
S1mple for sure. Took NA to their first major final and changed what we think of as possible in terms of individual player performance.
2021-01-28 10:55
Markeloff
2021-01-28 11:04
f0rest GOAT ALL TIME
2021-01-28 11:04
#131
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Sweden frizzahh
Gotta be simple right?
2021-01-28 11:08
1. device 2. hotzera
2021-01-28 11:08
+1 for the thread and also agree with op
2021-01-28 11:16
No Get_Right... 0/8 Multiple #1 finishes? yup and back to back major winner? yup been in the game for a long time? yup, practically since its existence Changed the game? yup Had his and his teams own era? yup (although it was during the time when cs was less competitive, not anyone can go 87 maps in a row without a single loss) Sure he isnt mechanically the best all time, but if we had to talk about "goat", in my own opinion -and everyone is entitlted to their own- being goat isnt about just aim, but that players impact etc, i feel get right deserves it tbh
2021-01-28 13:23
1 reply
not that competitive scene at the time
2021-01-28 17:32
#140
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Russia Canvi
device is not a GOAT. His team is. device is mediocre.
2021-01-28 16:51
4 replies
#150
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France FanchD
2 Majors MVPs, consistent top 5 player, even top 3 for the last 3 years, more MVPs than anyone else, lots of titles,... ???
2021-01-28 17:28
2 replies
#153
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Russia Canvi
Put device on a worse team and he would never achieve that. Put s1mple or ZywOo in a different team and they would be still very good.
2021-01-28 17:32
1 reply
#176
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France FanchD
This is definitely not a criteria to choose a GOAT
2021-01-28 19:08
haha
2021-01-31 20:27
I think zywoo with time will be the goat. Today I would say coldzera or device. S1mple is the one who I enjoy the most but... For me, today, coldzera is a 10, device a 9.5, zywoo a 9.25 and s1mple a 9.00, I'm considering what they achieved and how they achieved it.
2021-01-28 17:27
#151
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Iran faceoffz
goat of this game ???? there is no doubt that its device , end of discussion /close
2021-01-28 17:30
raw skill (aiming, movement, gamesense): s1mple total cs skill (raw skill + teamplay, preparation, tactics): device goat: device
2021-01-28 17:33
olof
2021-01-28 18:00
1 reply
+11111111
2021-01-28 21:45
Olof
2021-01-28 21:44
kennyS
2021-01-30 09:09
#187
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United States julianwb
saying cold is the greatest because he is the most influential is like saying curry is the goat
2021-01-30 09:14
if looking at csgo only, id give it to cold. 2x top 1, 2 majors and many more titles.
2021-01-30 09:18
#190
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Russia Kalacia
If it is counter strike as a whole goat is get_right, and even if just csgo he has to be mentioned
2021-01-31 20:26
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