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Olof, goodbye
Venezuela Jorge_ 
Quick post. This could be the last time we see Olof playing professional Counter-Strike. Enjoy it noobs, because there will never be another GOAT like him.
2021-01-27 21:17
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39 bomb, masterclass as his final goodbye.
2021-01-27 21:18
62 replies
+1 Olof GOD, nobody will ever be close to 2015 Olof. Unreal.
2021-01-27 21:39
61 replies
+1
2021-01-28 03:55
2018 s1mple was like 10 times better than 2015 olof
2021-01-28 05:44
49 replies
False. Not true. Shhh.
2021-01-28 05:54
2 replies
s1mple bad game = olof prime
2021-01-28 08:44
1 reply
10 kills somple 25 boombldaddy
2021-01-28 11:13
olof was chad entry with AK on even the most difficult t sided maps like train. s1mple awp abuser and baiter
2021-01-28 06:01
17 replies
+1
2021-01-28 08:50
+1
2021-01-28 08:51
#134
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Serbia CoVRa
+1
2021-01-28 08:55
+1
2021-01-28 09:44
1 reply
50/50
2021-01-28 09:46
+1 Olof greatest peak of all time because he wasn't a baiter and was an amazing entry fragger even on T sides.
2021-01-28 09:50
yeah, he baits himself into opening duels which he wins
2021-01-28 09:55
+1
2021-01-28 10:00
Best cobble plat entry
2021-01-28 11:17
#196
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Indonesia DioBrando
+1 mens
2021-01-28 12:08
#211
OK | 
United States Bioax
+1
2021-01-28 17:15
+1
2021-01-28 17:22
#232
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United States airD
+1
2021-01-28 20:39
+1
2021-01-29 04:57
+1
2021-01-29 08:51
+1
2021-02-25 11:46
+1
2021-02-25 11:51
there isn't a single spot on any map called s1mple, noob.
2021-01-28 08:36
24 replies
? he has graffiti btw cobble and train are both retired maps
2021-01-28 09:08
3 replies
Olof has not only a graffiti but easter eggs too, try again. Train is in the competitive map pool my guy.
2021-01-28 09:44
Olof has a graffiti, a skin (Glock sacrifice), 2 majors (1 major mvp), S1mple maybe it's a killing machine, but Olof it's a walking brain.
2021-01-28 20:06
1 reply
Olof living legend
2021-01-29 14:53
#149
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
measuring a players worth by, callouts? literally mentally deficient
2021-01-28 10:01
19 replies
yes, it's pretty valid to measure a fraction of a certain players worth by it. no.
2021-01-28 11:11
18 replies
#151
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
so device is worthless despite being the best player to touch the game? nice
2021-01-28 11:11
17 replies
why do you have to takes things to the extreme? Are you 15? lmao Are you even reading what I wrote? #150 "measure a fraction of", you fucking donkey.
2021-01-28 11:19
16 replies
#168
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
you just edited your comment lmao
2021-01-28 11:41
15 replies
sure dude sure, excuses. I edited it instantly after posting it due to grammatical errors. Keep being a lame newfag, my guy.
2021-01-28 11:51
14 replies
#210
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
newfag? i bet thats your first account and all your opinions come from hltv forums. you literally edited ‘fraction’ in but whatever you say buddy
2021-01-28 17:14
13 replies
sure, now say that again but without crying.
2021-01-28 18:36
12 replies
#217
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
why would I cry over someone that thinks having a position named after you means you are a good player
2021-01-28 18:37
11 replies
I said without crying kid!
2021-01-28 18:38
10 replies
#219
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
what flag even is that
2021-01-28 18:42
9 replies
Uk education kekw
2021-01-28 19:55
8 replies
#225
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
I was calling his country irrelevant... peruvian comprehension
2021-01-28 19:59
7 replies
0/8 Atleast you tried
2021-01-28 20:00
6 replies
Did he? He only succeeded at making a donkey out of himself.
2021-01-29 08:49
5 replies
Jajajajajajajaja
2021-01-29 08:57
another modern high developed welfare society for the rescue.
2021-02-25 11:53
3 replies
Having clean running water and basic human rights doesn't mean you cannot be a rude, smooth-brained person. And viceversa.
2021-02-25 12:00
2 replies
well it does mean the population had the intelligence to provide for other human beings with welfare and free healthcare/Education.
2021-02-26 10:02
1 reply
no my guy, the speed of development in your countries is very very slow. You've been existing for many many more years than us! Our countries are only 200 years old, Cervantes has 400 years dead, so imagine. It's a mixture of the harsh conditions u guys (europe) live in that forced u to be more "smart" about things or else you'll die. That's why we are not developing at astonishing pace. Remember you guys had like 2000 years to come to where u are now! EDIT: all of our countries also have free healthcare/education dude xdddddddddd
2021-02-26 11:49
#172
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Lithuania Extazis
Still no major
2021-01-28 11:44
#212
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Sweden Albikin
s1mple baiter cuck olof entry chad
2021-01-28 17:18
Olofs prime compared to S1mples isn't just about skill. Obviously most players are better than Olof was then @ this point but he did it while also WINNING.
2021-01-28 20:45
zywoo 2019 way more insane from absolute nobody to #1 player in the world in a year.
2021-01-28 11:31
6 replies
zywoo 2019 is barely top5 in CS:GO history wtf S1mple 2018 Olof 2015 KennyS 2014 KennyS 2015
2021-01-28 11:57
5 replies
kennys was using broken weapon and competition back then was a joke compared to now. olof and s1mple were good. zywoo is the best.
2021-01-28 12:10
4 replies
but he was using it to perfection. And s1mple and zywoo are awpers too yknow...
2021-01-28 13:35
2 replies
gun was broken back then. nerfed since then. kennys never the same
2021-01-28 13:35
1 reply
I know, they nerfed the movement speed, but still the AWP put in good use is unstoppable by rifles That is of course if you're not Xantares and shoulderpeek cross-map one deag AWPers regularly, but still. I think the AWP is a good gun. Much less OP than it was back then, but still, no wonder it costs 4750$
2021-01-28 13:38
+1 overrated
2021-02-25 11:52
#189
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Germany montexz0
+1
2021-01-28 11:57
+1
2021-01-29 04:56
+1
2021-01-29 15:07
#2
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Italy lo_stallone
Yel so bad
2021-01-27 21:18
6 replies
liferound
2021-01-27 22:00
3 replies
Yel so good
2021-01-28 02:05
1 reply
#114
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South America ZyvvOo
kkkkkkkkkk nice
2021-01-28 05:41
fucking hell what a play
2021-01-28 09:43
#110
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Brazil pooternd
yo les noob
2021-01-28 03:53
A true legend, not the goat tho
2021-01-27 21:19
66 replies
Who's the goat to you? Don't say Cold.
2021-01-27 21:20
65 replies
He actually is tho
2021-01-27 21:21
Neo,Fallen, f0rest, get_right, s1mple, cold,device. GOAT in CS:GO ofc
2021-01-27 21:21
31 replies
ez report for not putting shox
2021-01-27 21:22
9 replies
#60
shox | 
Serbia nzzm22
+1. Doesnt get nearly the respect he deserves. Best cs:s player of all time + top 10 csgo player of all time. And he is still competing for titles, if he keeps it up for a year more, he is the overall GOAT imo, over 2 games.
2021-01-27 22:00
8 replies
+11111 idk why but he is underestimated by the community, when it comes to the goat question only a few people mention him :O
2021-01-27 22:07
+1111 newfags don't remember very games shox or ldlc shox
2021-01-27 22:21
1 reply
old fags lol
2021-01-28 05:59
imo in terms of raw skill RpK was a better player in source
2021-01-27 23:03
1 reply
disagree, if anything rpk could be greater, but the best was surely shox imo. They are definitely the top 2 tho.
2021-01-28 00:46
Actually RPK was the Goat of css. Ask Any oldtimer and They Will say RPK. But Shox is second with wantz. Rest i agree with :)
2021-01-27 23:04
1 reply
shox was better.
2021-01-28 00:46
#257
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United States mickdo
fuck no Shox is ass. and Shox has horrible mental when he plays. What is this shox dickriding?
2021-01-29 21:50
olof is the goat. Most lans won, won top1, won majors, had a era. Dominated with different teams. :) Made every major playoffs expect 1.
2021-01-27 21:22
6 replies
In terms of greatness, olof is great, but not the greatest. Remember, neo and Fallen built/rebuilt their scenes from the ground. get_right and f0rest went 87-0 cold and device dominated their time. olof is great, but IMO he isn't the greatest, maybe top 3.
2021-01-27 21:33
5 replies
Doesnt matter where you started, it matters what you do by the end and Fallens achievements just dont compare to Device and Olofs
2021-01-27 21:30
#37
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Australia jks_top1
Come to Sweden kkkkkkkkk
2021-01-27 21:31
87-0 *
2021-01-27 21:32
1 reply
thx
2021-01-27 21:33
fair enough, really well put
2021-01-28 08:54
#17
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
fallen is not GOAT. He was top 20 player for 2 years. Fucking scream was top 20 for 2 years
2021-01-27 21:25
8 replies
#23 He rebuilt the BR CS scene from the ground. His projects in GC and "The Golden Chance" gave BR CS the boost we needed. Same for Neo
2021-01-27 21:27
2 replies
That makes him one of the greatest personalities of CSGO history, not one of the goats
2021-01-27 21:41
1 reply
+111111111111
2021-01-28 03:57
true
2021-01-27 21:27
#31
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Switzerland noxer*
fallen had an era and won 2 majors. Or were they 3? I dont even remember anymore
2021-01-27 21:27
3 replies
2 majors. But as i said in #23 He rebuilt the BR CSGO scene, also IGL'd LG and SK to 9-10 wins in 2 years.
2021-01-27 21:28
2 replies
#48
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
so did olod. but olfo won 2x times whatever fallen won
2021-01-27 21:43
1 reply
Olof won 1 major btw while FalleN won 2. But comparing IGL Apwer and Star player is not correct.
2021-01-29 08:34
#20
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Poland PHoVE
Neo, GeT_RiGhT and f0rest are GOATs of cs, but not csgo tho.
2021-01-27 21:26
2 replies
2021-01-27 21:27
1 reply
#99
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Poland PHoVE
i didnt see it. it was after i posted my comment.
2021-01-27 23:20
#24
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Canada iviike
He said "Don't say Cold." yet you did.
2021-01-27 21:27
1 reply
im gangsta
2021-01-27 21:27
Altho cold is my favorite player, device is the goat for me In a couple years, probably zywoo will take the spot.
2021-01-27 21:23
23 replies
#33
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Switzerland noxer*
zywoo? wtf lol no.
2021-01-27 21:27
22 replies
Hes gonna be the 1st player with 3 top 1s. Will be pretty hard to deny hes the best individual player of all time after that
2021-01-27 21:29
16 replies
#49
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Switzerland noxer*
ugh? The best individual player of all time is obviously s1mple
2021-01-27 21:57
15 replies
Right now yeah, not after Zywoo gets his 3rd rank 1 tho
2021-01-27 21:57
14 replies
#52
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Switzerland noxer*
s1mple deserved it in 2020. 2021 we will see. s1 doing great so far.
2021-01-27 21:58
13 replies
No he didnt 6 MVPS > 2. You saying he deserved it doesnt change the fact that Zywoo won it. Dont be delusional and just accept the loss
2021-01-27 21:59
12 replies
#68
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Switzerland noxer*
yeah wp winning rmr mvp events while s1mple couldn't have won those because there was no evp nor mvp for CIS rmr events. S1mple had the better rating too.
2021-01-27 22:06
11 replies
4 of the tournaments Zywoo won MVP at S1mple attended so nice try on that one S1mple had the better rating purely cause of trading off teammates and saving. Zywoo had higher impact ADR clutches opening kills KAST nade usage etc
2021-01-27 22:06
7 replies
#72
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Switzerland noxer*
yeah sure keep trying. Zywoo only won the hltv award due to the rmr mvps which s1mple couldn't possibly have won. That and zywoo having less haters and hltv being biased towards him.
2021-01-27 22:07
6 replies
I dont need to keep trying, Zywoo won it fair and sqaure. Theres nothing to try buddy, youre the one reaching for answers as to why your idol lost when in reality its just cause Zywoo played better, thats all there is to it. Like i said S1mple had 4 chances to take MVPs away from Zywoo that Zywoo won. Beijing, Cologne, and 2 Blast Events Now youre just coping trying to say it was based in bias lmao, so delusional
2021-01-27 22:11
5 replies
#85
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Switzerland noxer*
s1 rating > zywoo rating That should tell it all.
2021-01-27 22:39
4 replies
yes rating is the only thing that matters lmfao, youre dumb
2021-01-27 22:40
2 replies
#239
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Switzerland noxer*
Zybot had 3 mvp from rmr. Keep crying
2021-01-29 04:49
1 reply
He had 2, i just named the 4 non RMR tournaments and he had 6 total. You cant read or what? Youre the one whining about who got #1. Stay seething loser
2021-01-29 08:18
ZywOo had 200 maps played whereas s1mple had around 150 in counted events (CIS events weren't counted, but if you count them s1mple's rating also drops to 1.29)
2021-01-27 23:00
if there were mvp for cis rmrs, s1mple only would have won 1, which is weplay clutch island. 6 MVP >>> 3 MVP
2021-01-27 22:59
2 replies
#238
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Switzerland noxer*
Zybot got 3 mvps from rmr LOL
2021-01-29 04:48
1 reply
Stop spreading lies, you cant even fathom s1mple losing so you make shit up. So delusional
2021-01-29 08:18
True no way, he's way too inconsistent. It's either device or s1mple, they are not so "team-dependent"
2021-01-27 21:37
4 replies
#50
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Switzerland noxer*
+1
2021-01-27 21:57
Zywoo is inconsistent? You dont win 2 r1s in a row being inconsistent, try again
2021-01-27 21:59
Inconsistent? What the fuck are you even talking about :D
2021-01-28 11:26
#242
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Indonesia FinZzz
Only been playing for 2 years in the top, and he won the number 1 best player in those two years. But yeah "iNcOnSIsTeNt"
2021-01-29 04:58
#56
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North America 007DBR9
the goat of csgo is easily devve
2021-01-27 21:59
3 replies
#62
shox | 
Serbia nzzm22
+1
2021-01-27 22:01
does anyone remember a play from device? i arent think that how many can u name from s1mple? :)
2021-01-28 03:52
1 reply
Both have more memorable plays than I am motivated to name here lul, what are you talking about?
2021-01-28 11:29
#64
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Brazil renatorib
zywoo still isn't but will be in some years
2021-01-27 22:02
3 replies
if he gets over his depencence from the team performance he'll surpass device and s1mple. If not, they are not even in the same level imo.
2021-01-28 08:33
2 replies
How is he depending on his team performance? His rating is like 0.25 above the second best player on his team in shox.
2021-01-28 11:30
1 reply
#223
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Brazil renatorib
+1
2021-01-28 19:52
might get into last change bracket
2021-01-27 21:21
#8
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
Legend may rest now :(
2021-01-27 21:21
1 reply
F
2021-01-27 21:38
#12
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Turkey TheKaiser
Wow, 39 bomb on his last match Olof leaving would be very sad.
2021-01-27 21:22
#13
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United States drac0z
he lays into his casket with a smile onto his face :)
2021-01-27 21:23
godlof((
2021-01-27 21:24
#18
ropz | 
India icle
sad ;(
2021-01-27 21:25
I mean hey at least he won't go negative rating on his last tournament hopefully
2021-01-27 21:25
he s getting baited so hard.... I hope that he wont retire and maybe will join fnatic instead of the new guy
2021-01-27 21:26
4 replies
#61
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North America 007DBR9
the new guy has more potential than olof, and fnatic has already stated their displeasure in 6 mans. Olof has also said he's probably going to retire from t1 after his basically standin for faze
2021-01-27 22:01
3 replies
ik,but i dont think that he is that bad to retire man.He will be missed 4sure...
2021-01-27 22:03
2 replies
#67
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North America 007DBR9
yeah but if he continues to play well in summit it'll be a good send off
2021-01-27 22:04
1 reply
He will always be remembered as a legend!
2021-01-27 22:04
bump
2021-01-27 21:27
eh man... most of the people here didn't see him in his prime, but it is what it is... different times
2021-01-27 21:27
2 replies
Oh man, it seems like it happened 10y ago holy cow
2021-01-27 21:39
#53
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Estonia |imperator
+1 sad but true
2021-01-27 21:58
He is gonna play Blast springs
2021-01-27 21:27
#45
loli | 
Russia uuuwu
wp, wish him best
2021-01-27 21:39
They need to add 2 flair slots on HLTV so I can put him up there with Markeloff :(
2021-01-27 21:59
#63
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India magizhchi
Godlof played well today , sad we might not see him play prof
2021-01-27 22:01
He wasn't a top player for long enough to be in GOAT contention. Not even comparable to dudes like Device or Simple. He's a legend but in the same way Elige would be if he were to retire today. That might be a little to real for some of you but the numbers are the numbers and his best year came in a much less competitive time for the game. CSGO if we're being honest with ourselves was just getting rolling in 2015/2016.
2021-01-27 22:03
65 replies
No, hes levels above elige, 2 times major champion, in one of the 2 best teams of all time and a 2 times major champion, he will be remembered, he elevated the game, Elige hasnt.
2021-01-27 22:15
64 replies
I agree he elevated the game. But 2016 onward the level of play among top players exploded and has only increased since. Olof for all his accomplishments doesn't match up with the Astralis core and skill wise isn't even close to the best riflers today. Just reality. The numbers are pretty clear on both fronts.
2021-01-27 22:17
63 replies
Meanwhile Elige has zero majors and hasnt even been inside the top 3 best players in the world, its not the same level.
2021-01-27 22:18
62 replies
Olof's best year - 1.14 Elige's best year - 1.21 Elige's career numbers are way better. Anyway he was just an example for how much the bar has actually been raised. And as far as accomplishments there is literally zero argument for Olof over Dupreeh or Device. He was instrumental in building the scene and was part of the first CS dynasty. But like I said in my original post the level of play exploded in 2016. There's no good argument against that. Just go back and watch a 2014 or 2015 match it looks like a high level MM game strategically.
2021-01-27 22:25
61 replies
Different rating systems, one was on the old 1.0 system one was on the 2.0, the 2.0 leads to higher scores as its more in depth.
2021-01-27 22:27
39 replies
He's literally just an example of someone who has stronger career numbers who's never been labelled best in the world to illustrate how the level of play has increased. I don't get what you don't get about this. Use any metric you want. ADR, KPR, KAST, whatever. Pick Electronic if you'd like. He's not the GOAT. The idea that Olofmeister is the best player in CSGO's history is patently ridiculous if you've watched even a little bit since 2016.
2021-01-27 22:33
38 replies
I dont think hes the goat, hes just better historically than elige.
2021-01-27 22:36
1 reply
+1
2021-01-28 08:41
#87
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Switzerland noxer*
What part of olofm stats being in the 1.0 format and not in the 2.0 format you don't get exacly? Having 1.15 rating on the 1.0 format is actually higher than having 1.21 on the 2.0 format.
2021-01-27 22:44
29 replies
I understand it perfectly well. Generally 2.0 is higher but not always. If you want to convert all those numbers you are welcome to though. Which is why I said you can use other numbers that always existed to find the exact same thing. I'm not going back to look at the pages but Olof's 2015 had the same KPR and a .01 higher K/D then Elige in 2019. Which is the point. If your best year is maybe slightly better then the fourth best player four years later when the level of competition is significantly higher you aren't the goat.
2021-01-27 22:53
27 replies
3 replies
Honestly it is but at the end of the day that is only 3 tournaments
2021-01-28 11:29
1 reply
Theres also big events in there and Olof is higher. Lets also add olof was a more complete player, he could do anything, he was also one of the best players in the world if not the best with force buy weapons, then you have the fact he can awp and rifle, Elige is just a rifler, you then have the fact Olof was an aggro player who would routinely single handily split open sites, Elige on the other hand is a passive player who only rifles. You also then couple Olofs T side play with the fact the meta was different it was more CT sided for a start.
2021-01-28 11:38
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/885/olofm.. There were too many shit useless lans in 2015 shouldn't be counted.
2021-01-28 09:57
3 replies
Big events should never be used before 2016 It excludes too many tier 1 events
2021-01-28 11:28
2 replies
I disagree, yeah some get removed but also the shit ones do as well like those shitty 4 team events. It balances out.
2021-01-28 11:34
1 reply
Then the rating means nothing due the sample size being way too low
2021-01-28 12:53
Thank you for posting this. Does everyone understand now? Olof is not close to being the goat of CSGO. Personally I believe it's Device as he's the highest rated statistical player on the best team in the world for a very long time aat this point. But you are welcome to be extremely impressed by a guy like Simple for his stats alone. I'm a pretty numbers based guy. Just who I am. And the numbers are clear on where someone like Olof sits in the entire CSGO player ranking which is why I essentially gave you people a trigger warning in my original post. To take it a step further players like Electronic or Elige will very likely go down at the end of their careers as even better players then Olof and it won't be that close. My last word on the subject.
2021-01-28 11:31
18 replies
No hes not the GOAT, there is no real goat as no one fills out all of the requirements. Cold only did it for 2 years. GTR was in a weak era. s1mple hasnt won enough and was only worlds best once. Zywoo hasnt won enough. Device has never been the worlds best. Olof has 2 majors and was worlds vest player once but has fell off so hard the last few years. Those are really all the candidates and I dont like any of them for GOAT.
2021-01-28 11:40
17 replies
Device has never been the best but he has been a top player every year since 2014. Has been a top 5 player 6 times and a top 3 player 5 times. And also won the most. I don't think it's that close personally.
2021-01-28 11:43
6 replies
But hes been in the best team while winning it all and still never managed to actually be the best, hes had a team that can elevate him and hes never manged to be the best in the world, how can you be the goat and not have atleast once? I dont think Olof is the GOAT i dont think we have one, i dont think you can have one, as you are asking whos the best player when you take into account things like winning, the issue is its a team game.
2021-01-28 11:46
5 replies
I mean that's a decent argument but I'll say he was 2 once. Like dudes not been far off being crowned the best and he's done it for the entire history of CSGO. There's arguments for a lot of people. I just think Device has the best one as I think you need to take the stats and the achievements into account. That opinion is personal of course.
2021-01-28 11:46
4 replies
Ok but then you have Cold who won 2 majors and was worlds best twice.
2021-01-28 11:47
Let me put it this way. To be the goat you must have been the best at some point, have won a lot and have remained competitive for a long time. So you end up with 3 people. GTR Cold Olof Device GTR was in a weak era so that means it cant be him and he wasnt really competitive for the last half of his CSGO career. Cold, hes was the best for 2 years when CSGO was full of great teams, he won 2 majors and remained a good player for a few years after. Olof, was the best for a year, won 2 major, however in an era with more major, was also an good player in 2016, 2017 and 2018. Devices level hasnt really changed his entire career which is amazing but hes never broken into the number 1 spot, hes won loads but hes never been the best player in the world while doing so.
2021-01-28 11:53
2 replies
Fair enough. But if you re-read what you just wrote doesn't it kind of jump off to you that Device has the best argument right now? I mean 6 top 5s? That's incredibly consistent at an extremely high level. We all know the accomplishments side as well. Particularly Liquid fans like myself.
2021-01-28 11:55
1 reply
Ok so hes been one of the losers in the top 20. I think Cold has the best argument. But accomplishments only mean so much, when we have to then bring in individual and this is why it doesnt work. S1mple and Zywoo are clearly better players than Device yet have worse teams, Niko is a more skilled player than device. You can be the best player to ever touch a mouse, but if you are from a nations without a good enough scene at the time youll never achieve anything really, its just not really a title that can be given to anyone as there are so many things that cant be compared.
2021-01-28 11:58
greatest does not mean best. olof is one of the greatest and one of the best, but he is neither the greatest or the best device is the greatest player of alltime, s1mple is the best player of alltime greatest = winning the most and elevating their team to their level. device has won more than olof and set a new standard for what it means to be a team player best = the most skilled player, s1mple is definitely the most skilled player in csgo. but he hasnt won shit compared to olof or device
2021-01-28 18:49
9 replies
No, greatest is about everything combined and Device hasnt been good enough as an individual.
2021-01-28 19:32
8 replies
whut change from rifler to awp and get another top3 said dev1ce hasnt good enough as an individual with 18 mvps and record for single year (dont get 1 place only for s1mple insane stats) is delusional my boy
2021-01-28 20:18
7 replies
Ok but hes never been number one in the world, hes never been the best player in the world. Those 18 mvps are mostly down to being on the best team, hed have way less on a team of a lower class like Navi or Vitality.
2021-01-28 20:35
6 replies
2 times major mvp>top 1 hltv
2021-01-28 20:35
5 replies
Ok fine, But olof has 2 majors and was the worlds best player and Cold has 2 majors and was worlds best player twice, thats infinitely more times than device. Olof has actually won more in total than Device and was the worlds best player so hes got both of those stats on device.
2021-01-28 20:39
4 replies
and where is olof after and cold now? device is way better than both more consisten more mvps more tournaments win and make a swap role said dev1ce isnt good enough to be goat is low iq or 0/8
2021-01-28 20:43
3 replies
But he never had their peak. You cant just have longevity, you need both. He has never been the best in the world, if you havent atleast once been the worlds best you cant be the goat, its like calling a football player the GOAT when he wasnt even the best in his era.
2021-01-28 20:52
I will add i dont agree with the whole goat title, i dont think you can really give it too anyone, i dont think there is a only only great players.
2021-01-28 21:50
1 reply
no one said is the only great is the greatest here are a lot of diference legends: Gla1ve-shox-skadodle-stewie all are great player but not to be GOAT
2021-01-29 02:55
#90
NiKo | 
Montenegro G1EX
name checks out Also, he probably isn't the GOAT, but he is certainly up there with the best.
2021-01-27 22:51
5 replies
name checks out big time, holy hell.
2021-01-28 08:42
4 replies
It's a pretty funny name when I get into conversations like this where the numbers are clearly on my side but people have really strong feelings on the subject. You guys think I'm taking away from Olof I'm not. I'm comparing him to a guy who's been a top 20 player for four years running and set records that will never be broken. It's not a slap in the face to Olof. What it is is the correct context to put him and most of the players who's big success in CSGO (Not CS as a whole that's different) came in 2015 or before. If you don't like the numbers argument and you feel your eye test tells you something else that's fine. But understand that's a really shaky position.
2021-01-28 11:36
3 replies
not reading that, dog.
2021-01-28 11:48
2 replies
That's not very nice. I'm sorry you are a slow reader. My girlfriend is a violinist and she's a slow reader but can read music like it's going out of style. Hopefully you have a talent like that.
2021-01-28 11:49
1 reply
I'm sorry, Ill read it. lmao. EDIT: I read it, it's very well put, I'm just not in the mood to discuss this topic. I think you are partly right, just that "your numbers" shouldn't take into account the global stadistics, because NA competition is well known to be of a lower level than the one in Europe. Just matches in European/International competitions.
2021-01-28 12:04
lmfao did u reqlly compqre olof to fucking elige???
2021-01-28 08:45
20 replies
Yes they are similar players. Read aabove. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/885/olofm..
2021-01-28 11:26
19 replies
They arent similar in how they play though you have to understand this, Elige is a mostly passive rifler, Olof was an aggressive hybrid.
2021-01-28 11:42
10 replies
Elige is part of the entry pack on basically every iteration of Liquid aside from maybe 2016. It's why year in year out he has some of the best opening kills numbers for a rifler. You are correct that Olof was a hybrid player but at the end of the day they are both high level riflers. I think they are comparable.
2021-01-28 11:44
9 replies
But Olof would often solo entry, go look at this train play, youll see why they call that spot olof.
2021-01-28 11:45
8 replies
Of course. He's a legend of the game. He'll be seared in the brains of CS fans for his burning defuse, his scout play on Overpass and his train plays on T side generally. They are similar in that they are both top tier riflers for their era. I'm not saying they are carbon copies but they aren't bad foils for each other.
2021-01-28 11:52
7 replies
I would say they are total opposites of the rifling spectrum. Elige profits off of the space made by his team, Olofmiester would make space for his team and profit off of it.
2021-01-28 12:00
6 replies
Not sure I totally agree. If you look past AWPers Elige year over year has the best if not close to the best opening kill numbers every year. If you had written NAF or Magisk I would be more inclined to agree.
2021-01-28 12:06
5 replies
Opening kills and entries are not the same. Device gets loads of opening kills, not many entries.
2021-01-28 12:10
4 replies
Sure. But they do both make space for the rest of the team. In TL's case I would argue that historically NAF and Twistzz were the ones profiting off of Elige and Stewie's (and Nitros) space making. In a team that fluid you don't always really have a pure entry. That actually goes for the whole scene. As an exmaple Dedi lurker like Happy don't really exist anymore. You still have guys like Ropz and BlameF but the style is still much different then it was back in 2014.
2021-01-28 12:10
3 replies
But then again if you look at Olofs era it was much more based off of just pure reading the game rather than these set strats, it was less about strategy and more about innate team chemistry, so again its not really comparable.
2021-01-28 12:11
2 replies
Well that's Swedish CS in general. They still kind of play like that honestly.
2021-01-28 12:13
1 reply
But all of CS was basically like that then, the only ones who were different was TSM, so basically part of the current Astralis lineup with Karrigan and someone else, i think cajun.
2021-01-28 12:15
ptrtty sure many more ppl wil remember olof than elige
2021-01-28 11:46
7 replies
In Europe maybe. In NA he'll be remembered as a record setting player who's been consistently excellent since he burst onto the scene. Maybe a major winner when it's all said and done as he's still just 23. I have no idea what the future will hold but if you go look at that guy who tabulated the best players over the year Elige climbs those rankings every year and he's already top 10 I believe I'd have to go back and look.
2021-01-28 11:48
6 replies
not always the better players will be remembered the most . people like scream,pasha,olof,get right,kennyS will be remember forever in this game by everyone
2021-01-28 11:59
5 replies
That's actually a really interesting point! If CS were to end today more NA fans would remember Stewie and Tarik then Elige. Which is crazy right? In Brazil Fer will be remembered as the best entry fragger of all time. For basically one extremely excellent year. All those players you mentioned are excellent in their own right but they've all been surpassed. Some simply aged out. Some were too one dimensional and some have simply fallen off. It's part of what makes CSGO fun. The longevity of the game itself. To the point where we have different eras of not only teams but players themselves.
2021-01-28 12:03
4 replies
Not really crazy, Elige has never won a major, hes just also not that vibrant of a person, doesnt really say much hes very quiet.
2021-01-28 12:06
3 replies
It's crazy in that Elige and NAF are probaly the only two NA players to reach elite level status within the game. Maybe Brehze would have been on his way if not for Covid.
2021-01-28 12:12
2 replies
But they have never won a major and they dont really have personalities.
2021-01-28 12:13
1 reply
Well we'll see where it all shakes out in the end. The major argument doesn't really fully work itself out yet as they are still in the beginning to middle part of their careers. Hopefully one day they break through that wall. Anyway. It was fun chatting dude. Wasn't trying to be aggressive towards you for what it's worth.
2021-01-28 12:15
should be -kjarbye instead tbh
2021-01-27 22:18
#80
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Greece Vedalken
I have the feeling he will play Blast
2021-01-27 22:24
1 reply
now that you say it, same lol
2021-01-28 08:37
#88
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Finland dvlx
GOODBYE LEGEND
2021-01-27 22:45
amazing player, but goat def not
2021-01-27 23:10
3 replies
I mean maybe not best of all time, but he won 3 majors, while consistently being in the top 20. That deserves top 5 imo
2021-01-28 03:34
2 replies
2 majors *
2021-01-28 03:35
idk about top 5, top 10 def imo
2021-01-29 14:47
#97
JW | 
Sweden gNeJS
Tearing up..
2021-01-27 23:10
I respect him a lot of. He done so much, especially in good era
2021-01-28 00:47
goodbye legend <3 you can rest now :(
2021-01-28 03:26
Legend player <3 EZ4OLOFBOOST
2021-01-28 03:27
While it wont last with Asstralis around hes still the most successful csgo player, winning 25 big trophies (i think Device is at 24 rn) as well as he was the only player to make it to all major playoffs until Berlin
2021-01-28 03:58
BOOSTMEISTER !
2021-01-28 05:47
I hope he will stream
2021-01-28 05:48
it's a pity, he was just starting to give good performances
2021-01-28 05:49
olof to VaLULrant ?
2021-01-28 08:44
#135
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Europe Vegiboy
I'd rather have olof than rain. Rain was shit for way to long imo
2021-01-28 08:55
Fucking legend. One of the greatest to play the game. The reason why I got into CS esports. olof's style of play was a lot different than most 'goats'.
2021-01-28 09:16
1 reply
Can you enlighten your point more please ?
2021-01-29 14:51
#144
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Denmark Luc4sCS
Olof OG
2021-01-28 09:47
#166
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Olof, goodbye. Olof proshai, ti zdes' chuzhoi. Olof, goodbye. Olof proshai, pora domoi! :)
2021-01-28 11:39
3 replies
what language is this? and what does it say?
2021-01-29 09:03
2 replies
#255
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Olof, goodbye. Olof, goodbye, you are a stranger here, Olof, goodbye. Olof, goodbye, it's time to go home. I just reworked the words of the Russian song a little bit.
2021-01-29 20:41
1 reply
Those lyrics translated into English actually reminded me of another song lmao Exit music (For a Film) - Radiohead. voca.ro/15trRhqWYtpH
2021-01-29 21:47
One of the biggest in the game all time
2021-01-28 11:48
:( He's beast
2021-01-28 12:56
olof is a legend, I'm glad he is retiring from a decent team, different from get_right and pasha
2021-01-28 17:21
#222
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Bulgaria onegrit
even that i hate him this is kinda sad
2021-01-28 19:35
goodbye Godlof O7
2021-01-29 05:00
:( GOATmeister
2021-01-29 21:53
imagine of being proud of Olof.. are you guys close? what life do you have bro!
2021-02-25 11:34
2 replies
Wow, edgy comment.
2021-02-25 11:36
1 reply
Check my profile and my latest responses to him. He's a salty little boy haha.
2021-02-25 11:46
Olofmeister boostmeister he watchink you through his scout
2021-02-25 11:40
1 reply
he says to you, you have no pass
2021-02-25 11:48
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