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Coldzera salty?
Boombl4 | 
United Kingdom Elucidate 
in his recent interview he said "Let me give you an example: NAVI, Vitality, I feel they really push some players to be the stars, so they'll do anything for them. I played on a team where all players were equal, so we always thought that the team was bigger than the individual players." He had taco...a dedicated bait to bait for him and his stats and now he's shit-talking navi and vitality lol... he's just upset he's fallen off (no pun intended) and isn't as good as he thinks he is.
2021-02-12 18:49
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#1
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Reunion Esquinox
coldzera is hardly going to be relevant again
2021-02-12 18:50
79 replies
he's a fucking beast, dude :/
2021-02-12 18:52
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29 replies
he was igl and doing roles he wasnt used to. i wouldnt say he will be a beast, but he might be relevant
2021-02-12 19:45
25 replies
#64
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Reunion Esquinox
1.5 years since he's in faze tho
2021-02-12 19:50
21 replies
so what? he was either under niko whos a terrible igl or igling himself.
2021-02-12 19:56
7 replies
#77
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Reunion Esquinox
sorry to not believe in miracle fixes
2021-02-12 19:59
6 replies
start believing, if it works..its the best fkin feeling. If it dosent, what did you even lose :D
2021-02-12 20:11
#79
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Australia Ohnorepo
No one is saying to believe in miracle fixes. He definitely had massive help from his roles with Taco, but he's also had a massive hinderance with the roles and partnerships in FaZe.
2021-02-12 20:14
#146
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India Relunk
Vitality dead team, apex IGL
2021-03-05 23:46
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#149
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Reunion Esquinox
afaik the thread is about faze
2021-03-06 07:10
#159
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Canada loldougie
> 2x Major winner + MVP > Not relevant now Expected from frenchman
2021-03-06 08:17
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#165
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Reunion Esquinox
>2x #1 >not relevant now oh wait that's get right
2021-03-06 12:03
why dont u consider, for example, when faze had good performance? you just chose the worst scenario of coldzera to consider who he is. if i choose the first trimester of the year (when faze was a top tier team), he had good stats. as i said before, i dont think he'll be as good as he was at SK/LG. hltv.org/stats/players/9216/coldzera?sta..
2021-02-12 20:21
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#81
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Reunion Esquinox
he would be horrible if he didn't have good stats when his team was winning
2021-02-12 20:22
8 replies
he had good stats at 2017 mibr too and he wasnt winning
2021-02-12 20:25
6 replies
#87
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Reunion Esquinox
I guess you meant 2018 that's true but that's why I said that him not performing rn in faze is a sign for him not doing well
2021-02-12 20:29
5 replies
yeah, 2018 so what u r saying is: coldzera became bad cause he went to faze, he cant perform as he did before (and as he already performed for a short time on faze). pretty deep analysis.
2021-02-12 20:32
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#91
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Reunion Esquinox
that's not what I mean I said that coldzera got worse (by a lot compared to those years) regardless of him joining faze and that it's unlikely that he will become relevant again
2021-02-12 20:34
3 replies
i honestly cant agree with you. he doesnt perform as well as before, but he nowadays does more trash roles, so its harder to get as good stats as he used to.
2021-02-12 20:37
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#94
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Reunion Esquinox
I'd say it's the opposite and it's because he can't be as good as before that he does shit roles
2021-02-12 20:39
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he isnt comparable stat-wise as zywoo, s1mple, device, niko, ropz anymore, but twistzz is kinda same level. as coldzera said on interview, twistzz said he requires freedom to get a good performance and i dont think coldzera minds that anymore cause faze's experience.
2021-02-12 20:53
he had good stats at 2017 mibr too and he wasnt winning
2021-02-12 20:25
jeez
2021-02-12 20:46
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#98
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Reunion Esquinox
ikr
2021-02-12 20:49
holy shit hes been in faze for 1.5 years already, still feels like yesterday
2021-02-12 23:02
implying you can't play any good while being IGL, blameF never existed then.
2021-02-12 22:43
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i didnt say exactly that, even fallen at his prime or jame had good rating as igl. i said coldzera was doing things he never used to, like igl and some roles.
2021-02-12 23:39
Guess what? So was NiKo and he was carrying coldzera's ass
2021-03-06 08:34
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#139
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Reunion Esquinox
Maps played2
2021-02-13 12:55
On Faze Cold never had the chance to play with a line up that played together for enough time. I'm not saying that if he did he would definetely be relevant again... but i think its more likely than not.
2021-03-06 09:02
barely ever breaks 70 adr mark he is washed
2021-02-12 21:32
1 reply
look again now.
2021-02-12 22:20
dumbest comment I have seen today
2021-02-12 18:54
14 replies
+1 and usually I don't agree with a Thorin fan
2021-02-12 19:12
#52
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Reunion Esquinox
based on?
2021-02-12 19:43
11 replies
baiting?
2021-02-12 19:44
10 replies
#55
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Reunion Esquinox
2021-02-12 19:44
9 replies
hardcore baiting
2021-02-12 20:47
8 replies
#99
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Reunion Esquinox
ofc
2021-02-12 20:49
7 replies
at least you can admit it. gl baiting more faze fans
2021-02-12 21:10
6 replies
#105
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Reunion Esquinox
wish you could do the same
2021-02-12 21:28
5 replies
how can I bait by calling you a baiter? you are trying to bait^2 me or something
2021-02-12 21:31
4 replies
#110
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Reunion Esquinox
it's actually **2 ane not ^2
2021-02-12 21:35
3 replies
we are from two different continents
2021-02-12 21:45
2 replies
#112
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Reunion Esquinox
depends
2021-02-12 21:46
1 reply
u are dirty fake flagger111
2021-02-12 22:07
#71
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Brazil gtaube
+1
2021-02-12 19:55
#13
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Europe Vallon4
+1
2021-02-12 18:54
#15
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Namibia KhT
he doesnt need to be top1 again to have success, 'I think more about the team nowadays.... ...and if needed I'll sacrifice myself and I'll swap positions with someone who isn't comfortable.' If he does his job as he wanted to(with other players too) than we can see faze as one of the superteams.
2021-02-12 18:55
15 replies
+1
2021-02-12 19:09
+1
2021-02-12 19:26
#53
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Reunion Esquinox
Faze is hardly going to be a top5 team
2021-02-12 19:43
11 replies
Neither will fnatic but no one else is being a complete asshole and trolling them are they?
2021-02-12 19:47
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#62
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Reunion Esquinox
I should probably remove this flair since its only purpose was to look like actual Fnatic's flair, which it doesn't anymore last years have shown faze not being a top5 anymore
2021-02-12 19:49
7 replies
Faze were literally ranked #3 at one point last year before Olof left, wdym? If you think this won’t be successful with this drive and motivation I have to say you don’t understand what it means to be driven to be excellent.
2021-02-12 19:53
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#74
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Reunion Esquinox
for 2 weeks? they've been mostly outside the top5 the last 12 months and no, I don't believe in yet another roster move, and I think I have reasons not to
2021-02-12 19:58
5 replies
What about noww
2021-02-12 22:31
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#127
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Reunion Esquinox
you told me that they achieved #3 at one point last year I don't mind being laugh thread'd but I'd prefer conclusive results (although it is good sign for them that they won)
2021-02-13 06:53
3 replies
And after the NaVi match how are you feeling?
2021-02-13 20:09
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#142
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Reunion Esquinox
they showed strong stuff ngl
2021-02-13 21:21
1 reply
And just think, Olof is leaving too, so this isn’t even their complete roster.
2021-02-13 21:24
Everyone can be top5 these days.
2021-02-12 19:54
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#70
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Reunion Esquinox
meant stable top5 but fair enough
2021-02-12 19:55
#113
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North America Yurkn
+1
2021-02-12 21:46
+1
2021-02-12 19:04
Lol if shox can stay relevant, than cold easily can. Cold has 10x better achievements than shox lol. Stay mad baguette
2021-02-12 20:25
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#86
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Reunion Esquinox
based on?
2021-02-12 20:28
10 replies
Based on the fact that shox could never do in the past what cold did. So if shox can stay relevant now, cold can easily stay relevant.
2021-02-12 20:31
9 replies
#92
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Reunion Esquinox
Guardian was not as good as get right in 2013 and 2014 and yet he was still when get right wasn't anymore, that's nowhere near the truth
2021-02-12 20:37
8 replies
How many major did guardian win? How many major mvps? How many World rank 1?cold is different sauce. If zywoo next 2 seasons gets average would you say zywoo is done forever? No you wouldn't
2021-02-12 21:08
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#106
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Reunion Esquinox
what was your point again?
2021-02-12 21:30
5 replies
My point is goats of cold zera's level never go irrelevant when shitters (compared to God cold) like shox apex rpk KennyS nbk(basically the whole french scene barring zywoo) are relevant 16-1 baby
2021-02-13 06:23
4 replies
KennyS was a goat when he was on titan, the guy would 1v5 people, but i mostly agree with you. Cold can easily find his fragging form back when karrigan joins faze
2021-02-13 06:33
1 reply
Of course. But come on, cold was top 3 clutcher, back to back World #1, 2x major winner and 2x major mvp. And he was excellent at the start of 2020 when faze were winning as well. Calling cold washed is just dumb
2021-02-13 09:06
#126
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Reunion Esquinox
get right is relevant since a couple of years already
2021-02-13 06:51
Thats actually so fucking true. Apex, rpk, shox, nbk, kenny are relevant so why cant cold? The only difference is that vitality is carried by zywoo and kenny is an awper.
2021-02-13 12:38
#106
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Reunion Esquinox
great internet right here
2021-02-12 21:30
+1
2021-03-06 00:08
#2
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Brazil Nicolito
yeah, TACO baited for the team, specially coldzera, and theres other 3 equal players. he is right tho, in case of vita/navi everyone plays around 1 player.
2021-02-12 18:51
5 replies
yes... they play around s1mple/zywoo..not for them... taco literally played for coldzera, when he left how shit did coldzera become? Now he's been in faze how shit has he become? Without taco he's nothing because he doesn't have the skill set to compete without a dedicated bait.
2021-02-12 18:52
4 replies
ahaha dude youre the one whos salty over here. If it was so easy that one guy baits and the other guy becomes 2x #1 and 2x major mvp, then anyone could have done it. Baiting is just a tactical asset teams use to get a better chance at winning rounds/games. But yeah, a thickhead like you wont understand that.
2021-02-12 19:25
2 replies
thx! someone with a working brain!
2021-02-12 22:41
expected from 3rd worlder
2021-02-13 15:34
Statistically in 2018 cold still had a good rating. 1.17 rating or something. Thats without taco. hltv.org/stats/players/9216/coldzera?sta..
2021-02-13 12:40
#3
broky | 
United Kingdom naica
I am coldzera and i can confirm this is not true. Source: Trust me bro
2021-02-12 18:52
1 reply
I trust coldzero, btw hope broky is doing quite well and hope to see you guys with Currygun and new strats
2021-03-06 07:33
no cap tho.. just now at mirage against mibr electronic dropped his ak for s1mple galil mid round (both full health)
2021-02-12 18:52
4 replies
link..? In that mirage game on their 3 force buys s1mple also just used a deagle... if that was sk they would've dropped coldzera the ak and have taco run out mid.
2021-02-12 18:53
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cause he is deadlier with a deagle than with a smg.. I dont have the link, you don't have to trust me either, and I dont agree with you that this was the case in sk
2021-02-12 18:55
It was s1mple's AK dropped to electronic who had better spawn to pick window.. Ofc he would want his AK back
2021-02-12 19:11
#100
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Russia ToughGuy
wow this is really insane it will definitely boost s1mple stats for sure
2021-02-12 20:51
#5
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Denmark Jeffersond
It’s you who Sound salty tbh
2021-02-12 18:52
#7
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Namibia KhT
he is completely right imo
2021-02-12 18:52
I used to hate coldzera because of his shitty personality but he is kinda based ngl
2021-02-12 18:53
sadly, +1
2021-02-12 18:54
#16
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Canada roylin
+1
2021-02-12 18:56
is he wrong though?
2021-02-12 18:57
Coldzera is well known by his clutches, not his stats
2021-02-12 18:57
#19
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Europe Vallon4
''I played on a team where all players were equal'' HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, is this midget hypocrite serious? Whole SK was STRUCTURED around making fraudzera shine, especially his dedicated bait TACO. Where are your top 1's when you switched teams and actually started playing in a team that wasn't focused around you? Better yet, how about even breaking top 20? Right, nowhere. Lol, salty midget.
2021-02-12 18:58
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#20
FalleN | 
Brazil oDvM
thats not true tho but okay go off
2021-02-12 19:00
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#21
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Europe Vallon4
Flag, flair. Biased opinion.
2021-02-12 19:01
2 replies
just bc he's brazillian he can't have an opinion? and how do you even know he's biased he's not even on his flair
2021-02-12 19:03
#23
FalleN | 
Brazil oDvM
if you say so lmao
2021-02-12 19:03
Yes you are very dumb, Coldzera was support player he flashed for Taco, fer and other players to kill and when necessary he go to clutch. You never watched a SK game and talk shit
2021-02-12 19:05
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#30
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Europe Vallon4
The absolute delusion and bias in this post....... Flag, name.
2021-02-12 19:09
5 replies
Nice argument congrats
2021-02-12 19:10
4 replies
#38
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Europe Vallon4
??? You have zero arguments, literally just spewed a bunch of false statements and called it a day. Fraudzera flashing for TACO? LMFAO. ''When necessary he go to clutch'', more like always last alive because we all know why. You see things how your fanboy mind wants things to be, not how they are. Pointless to argue with someone who is delusional.
2021-02-12 19:16
3 replies
Yes Taco was entry of SK, when a entry need to push a bombsite someone need to use utilities to help the entry or you dont know the basics of csgo ?? and some player need to play the clutch like Xyp9x and other players.
2021-02-12 19:22
He does have a point, coldzera was never the one doing flashy plays, or being aggressive, he was always more like a VERY passive safety net. The fact he just had better aim than the whole team doesn't mean he wasn't a support player, specially with the way he plays/played, the true star players of SK/LG have always been Fallen and Fer, coldzera was just consistent and kind of an ultimate support.
2021-02-12 19:27
Account created 07/20, shows
2021-02-12 19:49
0/8 stupid kid with stupid argument watch SK matches first then compare with how navi being a team of s2mple with 4 of his bitches
2021-02-12 19:21
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#44
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Europe Vallon4
electronic being s1mple's bitch is a bigger joke than SK not being centered around fraudzera.
2021-02-12 19:22
The position "entry fragger" is literally that. He enters and his team kills them, is that what you call a bait? Every player has its characteristics. TACO didnt care about KDA, cold was good at clutches and fer was agressive. If they had swapped positions they would be an average team. 0/8
2021-02-12 19:30
#61
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Germany Droidd
You're braindead shut the fuck up
2021-02-12 19:49
lmao braindead analysis thank you for being a typical trash HLTV user. Make fun of players you dont like and disregard opinions because they are from the same country
2021-02-12 23:09
4 replies
#121
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Europe Vallon4
Nice flare.
2021-02-12 23:23
3 replies
DID U EXPECT COLDZERA'S HATERS TO SUPPORT HIM?
2021-03-05 23:44
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#145
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Europe Vallon4
It took you almost a month for that comeback? Lmao
2021-03-05 23:45
1 reply
doesnt make me wrong
2021-03-06 00:06
hahaha you got rekt by everyone already, so nothing to add :D. We all know that you're a brazilian hater so your opinion is invalid hahaha
2021-03-06 07:39
in navi everyone is equally better than coldzera lmao.
2021-02-12 19:06
He's right but it works for them so why not..... faze is #19 in the ranking while navi and vitality are top 3 If you have a player like ZywOo or s1mple, why not build your team around him?
2021-02-12 19:09
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Yeah. He wasn't shit-talking them. Just giving an example of how teams work differently. He talked about Astralis too
2021-02-12 19:12
The thing is he wanted to say why Navi fails to win major or why these teams are not consistent. Eg) SK were consistent as they had 3 good players and 2 good role players and same for Astralis (Dev1ce has good stats but surely team doesnt do all the shitty stuff for him alone). A team with almost all good players has more chances to be successful than team having 1 god ,1 good and 3 decent player. SK and Astralis are great examples of that. But everyone hated cold so these stupid threads are natural.
2021-02-12 19:19
SK/LG didn't play around coldzera as much as Navi and Vitality are playing around s1mple and ZywOo. Also coldzera wasn't a main awper, which isn't good for his stats
2021-02-12 19:08
Are you mad because Cold said the truth about Navi and Vitality ?? kkkkkkk S0mple and Zywho are two ~star players~ that never won a major and never will win, because they don`t play as team, while Astralis, SK, FNATIC really played as a team. so deal with it
2021-02-12 19:09
1 reply
Olof never got roles solely based on him to carry and succeed, it was always a team effort in fnatic.
2021-02-12 19:50
He's right. He wasn't even supposed to be the star player on LG
2021-02-12 19:11
0/8 stupid argument from stupid kid
2021-02-12 19:16
#41
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Denmark Xipingu
Were there ever any doubt? That said, he's right you know.
2021-02-12 19:20
#45
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India Bobbobob
if you see interviews from then TACO and cold were a duo who worked together flashing each other in, going for entries interchangebly and set the team up for the round everyone does this except NaVi where they try set up s1mple only and not the other players
2021-02-12 19:22
The same thing goes for Astralis, none of their players has ever been the best in the world but they've won all that there is to win. They think about the team, not about the individual pieces. I think that the teams that have focused on the collective cause have had more success than the teams that only think about making one player shine. Read whole statement first and properly. And if u have brain u will know he is right. Cold was never a player to whom SK players would trade AWP for p250/deagle. Call him baitzera or anything but he did achieved almost everything with that mentality. And everyone knows zywoo and s1mple are better than him, way better but s1mple is playing from 2013 and still doesnt has a major title.
2021-02-12 19:26
Taco was entry fragger and he's the trader, is it hard to get this perspective?
2021-02-12 19:45
4 replies
nah, everyone else is salty that they won 2 majors and many other trophies. And others are malding cause he was #1 player for 2 years. Everyone hates dev1ce for same reason. Dev1ce and cold were never the players who wanted to be #1 player rather than win majors. I bet cold will trade his 2x #1 hltv rankings for 1 more major. Same goes for S1mple. Many players are trying to get into top 20 list rather than building legacy. When u talk about CS, everyone talks about 1. NIP with gtr and f0rest 2. KennyS 3. Fnatic with olof 4. SK with cold 5. S1mple 6. Astralis with magisk 7. Zywoo
2021-02-12 19:50
3 replies
+1
2021-02-12 19:51
u forgot vp.
2021-02-13 07:03
I remember guardian flick
2021-02-13 12:49
#59
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Germany mainak90
Actually I liked this interview by cold. Infact I was screaming LOL with the whole karrigan to faze thing earlier. But if this is the way cold is thinking now about faze, I can see a positive future with the team. Looks like he is really grounded guy who wants to focus on balance over starpower, guess faze didn't give him much success to boast of but made him a really matured in-game decision maker. Wish him and faze all the best.
2021-02-12 19:48
3 replies
atleast he is not fake and doesnt lies everywhere like YnK
2021-02-12 19:51
1 reply
Ynk and niko*
2021-02-13 12:46
+1
2021-02-12 19:56
are you retarded? if that's what you got from reading the article then you are illiterate
2021-02-12 19:59
are you retarded? if that's what you got from reading the article then you are illiterate
2021-02-12 19:59
But when cold did it, they won 2 majors and he got 2x back to back world #1 player. Zywoo did the latter only, s1mple didn't do either lol. So
2021-02-12 20:26
1 reply
+1 baiting is not always just for padding stats. Can win you majors and titles.
2021-02-13 12:46
It's just his opinion, you're the salty one here.
2021-02-12 20:31
1 reply
#95
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Poland v1ctorex
salty opinion
2021-02-12 20:40
he made a name for baiting Taco and hes on about teamwork
2021-02-12 21:12
1 reply
Technically that is teamwork?
2021-02-13 12:47
He got no one to bait for him now so he's talking this
2021-02-13 06:58
#133
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Ukraine Dert_
coldzera best shut up :D
2021-02-13 12:44
coldzera has same ratings as kennyS in 2021 who just got kicked from G2, so I would shut the fuck up if I were him.
2021-03-06 07:23
To be fair there were arguably 3 stars in SK (Fallen cold and fer) TACO was a pretty dogshit player. He played bait because that was his way of forming part of the team. It works so you can't really be mad about it. Whether it was a conscious team decision or not we can't really tell. But it was definitely intentional by TACO. He knows he's playing with better players, he knows the best way for him to win titles is to just be bait.
2021-03-06 07:24
3 replies
I think that's called being the entry fragger?
2021-03-06 07:42
1 reply
Nah the entry fragger actually gets frags. That's why the name entry fragger. TACO was more of an entry-information. I might die but I'll tell you where they are. With the ping functionality they might've won a third major.
2021-03-06 07:45
+1 TACO is only playing professional CS cause he has a lot of friends in the scene, he is very bad, can't kill nobody in a 1x1 and gonna finish ruin the already dead career of Felps
2021-03-06 08:00
It's kind of funny how lies go a big way on CSGO. Someone someday came up with the absurd lie that taco was bait for coldzera, now everyone keeps repeating this. Really bizarre how people actually like being this stupid.
2021-03-06 08:07
true
2021-03-06 08:15
ok what about fer and fallen who made top 3 with him? does zywoo/s1mple have a teammate near the same level they are?
2021-03-06 08:18
1 reply
Electronic
2021-03-06 08:34
#163
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Slovakia VERGiLx
botzera is just mad his skill is too low compared to zywoo/s0mple
2021-03-06 08:45
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