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if stewie isn't igl anymore
chrisJ | 
Asia Trainerherp 
why keep him?
2021-02-21 05:01
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#2
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Philippines _SweZ_
Entry Fragging.
2021-02-21 05:01
55 replies
Elige is entrying
2021-02-21 05:47
53 replies
????????????????????????????????? stew is running in AND THEN EliGE is killing them / trading
2021-02-21 06:05
27 replies
If stewie is only running why not hire Usain Bolt
2021-02-21 07:11
25 replies
lol
2021-02-21 07:16
+1
2021-02-21 07:55
cant argue with that
2021-02-21 08:06
#57
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France poulpup
smart mens
2021-02-21 08:18
8/8
2021-02-21 08:43
how long it take to come up with that one
2021-02-21 09:24
5 replies
#66
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
1h 6mins
2021-02-21 09:28
instantaneous
2021-02-21 21:21
9.58 seconds
2021-02-22 15:36
1 reply
#306
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Greece hekzy
WR
2021-02-24 20:19
6.9 seconds
2021-02-22 17:20
+1 gud 1
2021-02-21 13:38
#85
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United States Americah!
kkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-02-21 21:27
8/8 I love stewie but this is great
2021-02-22 15:00
LOL ok then, hahahah
2021-02-22 15:35
#145
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Argentina BlanKsT
+1
2021-02-22 15:40
#156
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Romania SanitySP
+1
2021-02-22 17:09
#183
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Finland Miroyev
kkkkkkk
2021-02-22 18:24
+1 xaxaxaxaxa
2021-02-22 19:36
+1
2021-02-23 02:57
#216
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
kkkkkkkk
2021-02-23 03:37
Jdbddjd this. +62718364
2021-02-23 04:58
Xaxaxaxaxa
2021-02-23 09:20
#271
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Argentina Joedash
+1 KEKW
2021-02-24 00:28
#283
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Georgia Megobari
+1 lol
2021-02-24 05:36
No Elige is running in first and Stewie is baiting. He only entries on eco's so he can get some easy kills.
2021-02-21 14:20
0/8
2021-02-21 07:03
elige is second entry, stewie creates a ton of space which makes him probably the best entry in NA. and one of the best, even though he doesnt always get kills when he entrys, he has the ability to get a double entry and just win the round before the other team has a chance, or even if he dies he creates a ton of space and makes trades easy
2021-02-21 07:18
23 replies
next excuse after stewie is igl his frags no needed
2021-02-21 07:45
Stewie getting entry frags.. Not just that.. Double entries If that was happening with Liquid, this thread wouldn't have existed.
2021-02-21 09:07
6 replies
... nt learn to read. Creation of space.
2021-02-21 09:41
5 replies
Yeah very underrated trait. Silvers won’t get it bro
2021-02-21 21:28
4 replies
im silver bro :((
2021-02-22 00:28
3 replies
Mens((
2021-02-22 07:09
Mmens((
2021-02-23 03:08
#292
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
FeelsbadMens((
2021-02-24 15:28
yep if you can clear a site or get space for your team who cares if you get 2 kills or 0 kills and die if your teammates are set up to win the round
2021-02-22 17:10
8 replies
serious question - what do people mean when they say the entry fragger "creates space"?
2021-02-22 19:40
7 replies
When you say an entry fragger creates space it means he disturbs the CTs setup, he makes them play unconfortable positions where they are vulnerable to his teammates and/or forces them to fall back. He gives crucial info and tries to create a situation where his team can succeed. Entry fraggers are expected to die frequently without a kill but it doesnt mean they dont contribute to the round. Space is more important than frags in some situations.
2021-02-23 03:18
6 replies
Thanks man - very helpful. I hadn't thought of it that way.
2021-02-23 16:11
1 reply
np mens))
2021-02-23 16:31
#272
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Argentina Joedash
I doubt stewie is such player tho. Stewie is of barely use for liquid, and there are better players for such things, stewie doesnt even have a brain to position well twiztzz.
2021-02-24 00:31
3 replies
dont agree, stewie is pretty good at doing just that
2021-02-24 05:28
2 replies
#284
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Argentina Joedash
I just see him dying. If you think he creates space ok, but he constantly dies and it doesnt matter how much space you create if you are constantly in a 4v5, its just that fallen became IGL for Liquid and therefore the other teams dont know what strats they'll come up with, once they realize everything, we shall see if stewie has the impact you are saying. But for now, its just fallen's strats working out well while stewie dying every round.
2021-02-24 05:58
1 reply
once the other teams realise and adapt they'll try to bring new things and adapt too, that's how the game goes
2021-02-24 07:06
If he creates space after dying why not keep him as spectator
2021-02-22 18:18
5 replies
go watch overpass against navi yesterday and look at the double entries or his ability to create spaces by being quick. He is able to maneuver quickly and stay alive long enough to push ct back. Hes prob the best entry fragger in NA
2021-02-22 18:21
4 replies
Just get a KZ player then if "maneuver quickly" is his quality KEKW
2021-02-22 19:27
3 replies
lol i didnt know how to phrase what I was trying to say but his aim and reactions are quick, and he takes very tradeable fights.
2021-02-22 19:28
2 replies
just get a normal pro that can win the entries instead being a shooting target is not a quality 0/8 bait
2021-02-22 19:31
1 reply
say that to the player with 6th highest earnings in csgo only behind astrallis. Not to mention when he has joined teams they have become one of the best teams and when he leaves they fall apart. All of that isnt a coincidence
2021-02-22 20:26
#260
Joee | 
Japan mainz
yeah
2021-02-23 19:35
because he is entry fragger
2021-02-21 05:02
people are so salty about stewie, smh
2021-02-21 05:03
5 replies
#234
TACO | 
Brazil pcR
he's not even that bad he's just ok
2021-02-23 07:09
1 reply
he's actually a really good entry fragger
2021-02-23 16:32
Anyone with a persona would be hated by hltv users
2021-02-23 07:15
2 replies
+1 this is perfect description of hltv
2021-02-23 16:33
+1 9/10th of HLTV is completely brainless
2021-02-23 16:38
#5
DD | 
Armenia breasts
diversity
2021-02-21 05:04
12 replies
affirmative action for asians isn't a thing....
2021-02-21 05:05
11 replies
#8
DD | 
Armenia breasts
not affirmative action, it's like optics there's an asian in basically every tv commercial m8
2021-02-21 05:06
10 replies
I've been studying some chemistry: o=m-e | g-a=lul
2021-02-21 05:07
9 replies
#10
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Armenia breasts
you don't have to believe me, but they know what they're doing asian player☑️ br player☑️ gay player☑️ canadian player☑️ there's a reason they are so popular
2021-02-21 05:13
8 replies
Who's gay? is Grim gay?
2021-02-22 15:14
7 replies
elige has a gf so you do that math i guess
2021-02-22 15:23
6 replies
Steven?
2021-02-23 02:58
5 replies
#223
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France skzzzz
nice math bro
2021-02-23 05:01
4 replies
Grim=Minecraft Steve Checkmate dumbass
2021-02-23 05:09
3 replies
#226
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France skzzzz
0 iq
2021-02-23 05:14
1 reply
Nice to see you self reflecting
2021-02-23 05:18
hltv.org/nemiga
2021-02-23 07:39
He'll be good for a while yet. Just keep your eyes on Brehze or jks if those projects break up
2021-02-21 05:05
8 replies
#11
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China HEIDASHUAi
Maybe Ethan???
2021-02-21 05:15
7 replies
#13
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK
Brehze 200% more consistent
2021-02-21 05:16
1 reply
#44
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China HEIDASHUAi
Ah you're right about that for sure
2021-02-21 07:43
Ethan is the same as Stewie. High skill ceiling but extremely inconsistent.
2021-02-21 07:12
4 replies
except stewie even though he has low ratings even when he dies he creates space as an entry fragger. He plays a different style of entry frag that doesnt get very many kills but is super helpful. He could swap roles with grim and be a super star
2021-02-21 07:19
2 replies
#43
ropz | 
United States Goob
not a superstar but certainly he could slot back into star roles if he had to, but that’s not what he’s good at anymore, he’s been practicing this style for a while so it might be hard to get back into form
2021-02-21 07:37
1 reply
#62
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Romania Xyst
+1 the word superstar gets thrown around too much in cs go. There are maybe 8 superstars in the whole scene.
2021-02-21 09:12
#50
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China HEIDASHUAi
+1 for the inconsistencies In terms of skill ceiling I feel that Ethan has a higher ceiling. But I don't really think Ethan would be a solution if changes needed to be made... I only mentioned Ethan because a lot of people seem to forget about him since Brehze is there and is arguably better in every way.
2021-02-21 07:55
#16
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Brazil morabrasil
He is a funny guy
2021-02-21 05:32
he can play a lot of diferent roles can entry-can supp-second awper-help in calls
2021-02-21 05:52
2 replies
liquid be dumb if they get rid of him tbh
2021-02-23 16:35
1 reply
i dont know with people think he is bad player in this moment is the best player u can have
2021-02-23 20:25
go look why c9 or liquid won anything meaningful ever LMFAO how can u say this to the guy who made nacs remotely relevant
2021-02-21 06:01
7 replies
FR. Liquid literally started winning only after they added Stewie lmao
2021-02-21 06:54
bUt kiLlS brO, hE doESnT fRAg MenS
2021-02-21 23:36
1 reply
xD Sense of humour 8/8
2021-02-22 11:16
#134
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Canada cLutcheR7
Without Valens help and Tarik's IGL and Stewie's (IGL who learned from slemmy and other IGLs) then they wouldn't have won. The fast plays of Cloud9 were incredible but it doesn't make stewie any better. It was autimatic/skadoodle and tarik getting the shit. If FaZe didn't choke then they wouldn't have won the major. He did well on Liquid but close games against Astralis and they weren't dominating the whole year also remember that they have adreN and TACO was on a downhill the time they replaced him.
2021-02-22 15:09
3 replies
stewie carried c9 1v5 2016-2018 before he changed roles. hes one of the only reasons auti/tarik joined why u trying so badly to downlplay what he did, constant string of 2nd places before he joined and then tl won everything for like 5 months before they took a break, name 1 american player who couldve made them be at the top for an entire year
2021-02-22 20:45
2 replies
#206
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Canada cLutcheR7
+cLutcheR7
2021-02-23 02:26
1 reply
canadian level 10 extraordinaire
2021-02-23 19:24
#21
s0m | 
United States joke_cs
name one better entry+hybrid+support player in the world that wouldn't cost $1 million and bring in as much impact and/or fans to Liquid.
2021-02-21 06:03
16 replies
BnTeT
2021-02-21 07:11
5 replies
not entry
2021-02-21 07:51
3 replies
#51
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China HEIDASHUAi
Yeah he's definitely better to have alive in the mid and late round scenarios. Of course Bntet can entry if he has to but obviously that's not his actual role.
2021-02-21 07:57
2 replies
just like naf, elige, and used to be twistzz, they dont need more of those type of players, someone has to do the shit
2021-02-21 08:11
1 reply
#58
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China HEIDASHUAi
Correct
2021-02-21 08:22
lol
2021-02-24 05:29
Aizy
2021-02-21 07:12
SunNy
2021-02-21 07:12
4 replies
Yes we need more Firepower
2021-02-21 11:26
+1 for Miikka "Firepower" Kemppi
2021-02-23 05:01
+1
2021-02-23 16:36
no pls
2021-02-24 05:29
kobruh
2021-02-21 07:12
name checks out
2021-02-21 07:13
Fer
2021-02-21 07:51
1 reply
not motivated
2021-02-24 05:30
Why did they pick him up if he wasn't gonna be igl?
2021-02-21 06:07
1 reply
cuz hes versatile
2021-02-24 05:30
He’s their hype man.
2021-02-21 06:08
Why not keep him? He's doing not bad since FalleN got IGL role.
2021-02-21 06:21
3 replies
#37
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Other M@GNU5
he IGL's in Nuke since FalleN don't really have much experience in Nuke
2021-02-21 07:13
2 replies
Well, it makes him even more important.
2021-02-21 11:22
1 reply
#71
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Other M@GNU5
agreed
2021-02-21 13:25
#27
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Russia VelsVivard
I genuinely want to know this as well, I'd become a hideous fan of them if he suddenly disappears from there.
2021-02-21 06:25
2 replies
Same, he's so damn annoying
2021-02-21 08:29
1 reply
thats what liquid opponents think as well
2021-02-24 05:31
Who knows, maybe those sub .95 ratings are what's doing it. Though of course we all have something to blame that for. They just believe he adds a lot more to the team than what a replacement could at this point in time. Whether it's true in reality or not is another question.
2021-02-21 07:14
Team chemistry Play-making Support (in a loose sense) Space maker Secondary caller
2021-02-21 07:23
37 replies
+1
2021-02-21 08:01
1 reply
I also forgot to mention he’s a very important factor in team hype, but that could come under team chemistry idk
2021-02-21 08:13
#75
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United States Hubterbean
+1
2021-02-21 14:29
33 replies
There’s a reason he’s the highest earning NA player in terms of prize money :D
2021-02-21 14:38
32 replies
That reason is being in the right team at the right time, lmao
2021-02-22 14:57
31 replies
2021-02-22 16:52
30 replies
Doesn't change the fact that he's a dumb player who throws man advantages away. I can't even count how many times stephanie has lost a 5v4 situation due to making a solo push through a smoke (a very obvious push)...
2021-02-22 16:54
29 replies
Not gonna bother explaining how important he is as a piece of liquid to a blind hater. Yes, he creates and loses advantages, but that's just part of his playstyle.
2021-02-22 16:55
28 replies
You are pretending like he's the only player who creates space & advantages, just gtfo lol, he is holding TL back
2021-02-22 16:58
27 replies
He elevates TL wtf you on about
2021-02-22 16:58
26 replies
How so? TL were a solid top5 (even top2) team before he joined them, after he joined they had a honeymoon period in the summer of 2019 where they dominated and since then it's been a huge downfall, are you blinded by your delusion?
2021-02-22 17:00
25 replies
When you talk about their downfall, you're not going to account for Twistzz completely falling off and taking 'supportive' roles as well as nitr0 leaving for Valorant. They essentially lost a star player, dedicated awper, and IGL all in the span of a month or two. No team is gonna improve after that happens you dipshit! A honeymoon period isn't from Jan-September, that's actual improvement and consistency. A honeymoon period happens shortly after a player joins and lasts at most a month.
2021-02-22 17:05
24 replies
Twistzz definitely wanted to become a support, yup! nitr0 definitely left willingly, yup! They were on their downfall even before that, 0/8 Their honeymoon was during the summer, Jan-Sep??? tf you on about
2021-02-22 17:09
23 replies
Twistzz literally did a course titled "Rifling and Support", you don't know shit. gamerzclass.com/games/csgo/classes/twist.. twitter.com/BLASTPremier/status/12087978.. Just get off the internet you fucking idiot.
2021-02-22 17:11
22 replies
What does that fucking prove? Exactly - nothing Where does it say he wanted to become a support again? You are so delusional it hurts to read your replies
2021-02-22 17:16
21 replies
Dear lord watch the interviews and read the articles you braindead cunt. Liquid completely fell off because: A star player transitioned to support They lost their IGL + AWP
2021-02-22 19:17
20 replies
Link one interview/article where Twistzz says he wanted to be a support, I'll wait. In the summer of 2020 they still had nitr0, yet they were only #11 in the world and as I said - Twistzz didn't WILLINGLY become a support.
2021-02-22 19:33
19 replies
Twistzz STILL became a support regardless of willingness. Flag and IQ check out. Cya in 10.
2021-02-22 19:34
18 replies
Are you really this delusional? Twistzz became a support because stephanie didn't want to be a support so he forced it onto someone else (that someone else was Twistzz). Hence why he ruined TL. You are more delusional than sam2k I swear. I'm fakeflagging, but either way funny coming from a noscener. And yes, I'll cya in 10, but I'm not the one getting 10yeared, you are for insulting me by "IQ checks out". Have a nice evening.
2021-02-22 19:37
17 replies
lmao your bait seems to work, congrats
2021-02-23 16:45
16 replies
except it's not a bait lol
2021-02-23 18:06
15 replies
you are a fool then
2021-02-23 19:23
14 replies
no I'm just being realistic, most fanboys are blinded by the delusion that it's still 2017 and that stephanie is a good player (smoke criminal duh), but they couldn't be more wrong he is the most overrated NA player
2021-02-23 19:38
13 replies
k silver
2021-02-24 00:16
12 replies
3.7k elo, not sure who's the silver in this conversation
2021-02-24 00:27
11 replies
you can have 100000000K elo but that doesnt change the fact that you dont understand pro level. that's silver mindset
2021-02-24 05:34
10 replies
wtf are you talking about? what mindset? just because I think that stephanie2k is overrated? 0/8, gtfo fangirl
2021-02-24 13:05
9 replies
sorry if truth offends u little flower
2021-02-24 14:13
8 replies
you have brought 0 arguments whereas I've explained why Twistzz most likely became a support and why Stewie ruined TL you're just a child or a baiter, in that case still 0/8 mr. "pro"
2021-02-24 14:38
7 replies
but TL is not ruined my dear retard. also, i didnt say i was a pro lmao i did say that you dont understand pro level cs which is evident when reading your comments
2021-02-24 18:52
6 replies
imgur.com/a/yedT7FY yeah right TL is completely fine I'm assuming since you understand pro level cs you must be a pro? can you sign my profile?
2021-02-24 18:56
5 replies
pic just prove they are improving fast, how dumb can you be to bring proof against your own argument? congrats, you unlocked a whole new level of idiocy! btw i cant sign ur profile but i can sign your ass out of this conversation nonetheless. woll, to be fair it was your inability to think straight what signed you out so props to you. lololol ppl these days
2021-02-24 19:00
4 replies
A honeymoon period doesn't mean improvement LMAO you honestly just sound like a mad kid who's a stephanie2iq fangirl who can't admit the truth since he is blinded by his own delusion, keep the insults coming so I can report you instead of providing actual arguments, you are sadder than a homeless person
2021-02-24 19:03
3 replies
s o r r y c a n t r e a d
2021-02-24 19:04
2 replies
not my fault, c0/8
2021-02-24 19:05
1 reply
w h a t ?
2021-02-24 19:07
for me its impressive how stew can do a masterclass play and a shitty play at following rounds. i just remember him doing really shitty job at nuke's bomb A and when he was doing the backup on bomb B he notices the terrorist couldnt aim the smoke blocking bottom ramp vision cause he needs to see NAF. he goes through smoke and that creates a player advantage to trade the kill and win the round.
2021-02-22 07:30
entry and also his personality is important to them. Remember 2018 liquid, always losing to astralis in the finals. Now compare it to 2019 liquid. What's the difference?
2021-02-21 09:23
6 replies
Astralis were too busy grinding out BLAST Events?
2021-02-21 14:39
3 replies
Astralis were at 2/4 Grand Slam events. This revisionist history is actually boring. I see it all the time and it's just not true. The only one that was 'given' to Liquid was Sydney but then they went and won Chicago anyway so they still would have won the IGS without the Sydney win. 5 IEM/DH events in a row is insanely impressive even if Astralis were at none of them. You are still facing off against a scene that includes teams with Simple, Niko, Zywoo, Ropz, Brehze etc etc. And none of them were slouches in 2019. Mouz went on a crazy run. EG went on a crazy run. Vitality picked up a couple of events. Like be real people.
2021-02-22 07:31
2 replies
It's a joke. I wouldn't have to explain that to anyone from EU. Or anyone with more than room-temperature IQ.
2021-02-22 16:55
#286
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Vitality did Liquid a favour in Cologne by beating Astralis in the semis. Regardless their summer run was still really impressive. But it was always sad to look Liquid play against Astralis. They had the skill to match them up but you could always tell how nervous they were by just looking at their faces during those games. Astralis really got into Liquid players' heads like no other team. Hopefully this changes with Fallen in the lineup.
2021-02-24 09:36
I don't know. We still beat them in a lot of grand finals.
2021-02-21 21:23
1 reply
The difference was stew
2021-02-21 22:30
#67
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Australia vamped
I’m not a fan of stewies cocky persona but he obviously brings something to the team other than just fragging. He’s been in the best NA team for years now
2021-02-21 09:30
Who's gonna replace him? Who is an upgrade from stewie?
2021-02-21 14:22
Because he is a good player.
2021-02-21 21:22
#82
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United States Americah!
0/8
2021-02-21 21:23
didnt age well, top fragging rn vs NaVi
2021-02-21 21:26
<3 chrisj so cringe
2021-02-21 21:26
be a bait foe elulige
2021-02-21 21:29
#88
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Nigeria Nemywild
It’s only a matter of time before Moses kicks him, that’s why he brought in Fallen to IGL for liquid. Stewie2k is washed up like his other previous teammates who ran to Valorant. He chose to IGL so that they wouldn’t kick him and have an excuse to be trash. Now that Fallen is IGL Moses wants Stewie2k to either step up or go and be replaced by another more consistent fragger. And we all know that he will play well for a few games and then that’s the final nail in the coffin for him in terms of actually being good at the current level. But he is smart he probably knew a while ago that he didn’t have much left before they eventually kick him like they did with Nitr0 so Im sure he saved up a-lot of money and started living on a budget. Thats my 2 cents...
2021-02-21 21:35
5 replies
#92
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Nigeria Nemywild
Bump
2021-02-21 23:32
#100
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Pakistan hawrU
I think Liquid are gonna keep this roster for entire 2021 Stewie is really important player for the team.... and he is not that bad Fallen is the awper/IGL ....... but he is missing alot of shots and not consistent(atleast now) but the results are great recently Elige is Elige Grim is decent NAF has been really great in 2021... fitting in the roles and putting up stats
2021-02-22 07:24
stew is fallen's personal friend, he was living with dead (ex-sk/lg/mibr manager) for a long time. they had a lot of photos together. i dont think fallen would allow that thing, specially if u consider how thankful fallen is with his old teammates. if you consider how stew plays, i'd say his stats doesnt show exactly his impact. i can agree with you he can be the weakest player on nuke's ct (by far), for example, but he still has a really huge impact even with low amount of kills and that's related to his trash roles. did you know during 2020 stew had almost the same amount of impact as NAF? and he was igl. stew has some impressive brain plays cause he has a good knowledge about tactics. that's why he was known as smoke criminal for example.
2021-02-22 07:41
They wont kick Stewie. He is the one who keeps the pace. We can all agree that he isnt the biggest fragger, but somehow he has always been in good teams. So these ppl need him. When Stewie left Cloud9, Cloud9 died en never been back again. When Stewie left MIBR, they stop existing. So no way Liquid wants to stop being relevant in csgo.
2021-02-23 19:42
delusional
2021-02-24 05:35
reminder that stew is actually playing decent without igling (and liquid as a whole)
2021-02-21 21:38
cos he doesnt choke like other liquid players no one else in liquid would have won that 1v1 against simple
2021-02-21 23:38
he is not that bad
2021-02-22 07:09
#99
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Finland V1lske
Look at Liquid`s results. If it aint broke, don`t fix it.
2021-02-22 07:10
7 replies
+1, don't make same mistakes like ENCE or Na'Vi.
2021-02-22 07:32
their results are vs trainwreck lineups. none of their wins has been vs a team playing well
2021-02-22 07:37
5 replies
they beat navi today
2021-02-22 07:49
1 reply
bro navi suck lol, take s1mple out and they're top 20
2021-02-23 06:34
Nah man they just beat a team on a 10 win BO3 streak. Like what? You euros really had yourselves convinced this team was done. Fuck it must hurt.
2021-02-22 15:04
2 replies
meh this is the weakest the scene has ever been, spirit look way more impressive than liquid do
2021-02-23 06:35
1 reply
I know bro. It's always the "weakest the scene has been" when an NA team does well. I heard it in 2018 and I heard it in 2019. It's just silly. The scene only ever gets stronger and more refined tactically. This is the most negative IQ take ever so I hope it's bait but it usually isn't.
2021-02-23 20:02
This is so old hat and it surprises me how little a lot of you know about CS. Opening kill ratio1.01 Opening kill rating1.11 Team win percent after first kill75.3% This is Apex's stats for comparison. Opening kill ratio0.96 Opening kill rating1.06 Team win percent after first kill75.7% So basically they keep him around because A. he's actually a really good entry fragger, one of the best. The nature of the role will make him look stupid at times. B. He's versatile and can pick up the secondary AWP and be proficient with it which in the new look Liquid frees up NAF to frag out. C He is a passionate player who hypes up the team and often helps with calling. This shit should be self-evident to all you global elites out there.
2021-02-22 07:28
21 replies
#104
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United States Masshole
+1 stewie haters are actual morons lol
2021-02-22 07:31
1 reply
No they really are. I see all these Europeans talk about how Americans don't understand CS or we don't respect it or we're just dumb. And they are literally too stupid to see the man plays a role on the team. A really important role that specifically allows Elige a huge amount of room for multi-kills. He doesn't affect NAF as much because he's more then often on the wing but Stewie makes a huge amount of room and sets up Elige for insane multi-kills on the T side almost every game I watch. Also Liquid even without Twistzz doesn't need more firepower. The only upgrade I see for Stewie statistically is Ethan as he plays a really similar role. Most dedicated entries as I showed above have worse stats straight up. However Ethan would cost a shit-ton of money and it would be a huge chemistry change on the team.
2021-02-22 07:41
ok, but some people can do it better than him? imagine C9 disband + Xeppaa - Stew
2021-02-22 11:19
14 replies
Again it surprises me how little you actually know.
2021-02-22 14:21
12 replies
They have the same roles , right?
2021-02-22 14:27
11 replies
Sure. But what the fuck has Xeppa done in Tier 1 counter-srike? Had like three good maps? Has no understanding of the Liquid system? A system that's already gotten them top 4 at the most stacked tournament so far this year by the way. Also has literally zero chemistry with anyone on the team. Doesn't mid-round call. Like need I go on.
2021-02-22 14:35
10 replies
In 2020, Xeppaa fought in NA tier 1 for the team chaos. he AVERAGED 1.18 RATING as an entry. Grim, in 2019, playing in NA tier 1, with Triumph, averaged 1.10 rating. In cloud9, Xeppaa had the best rating of all his team (as a fucking entry) even though the team was stacking up the losses.
2021-02-22 14:48
9 replies
Here's Xeppa's entry stats. Opening kill ratio1.07 Opening kill rating0.97 So better then Apex, worse then Stewie basically. Liquid is a team built to win now. They don't need another prospect on the team. How this shit isn't self-evident I literally have no idea at this point.
2021-02-22 14:52
8 replies
HAHAHHA good lies, propangandist. In 2020, where we have tangible stats: STEWIE2K Total opening kills 624 Total opening deaths 671 Opening kill ratio 0.93 Opening kill rating 1.06 Team win percent after first kill 73.1% First kill in won rounds 17.3% XEPPAA 468 Total opening deaths 381 Opening kill ratio 1.23 Opening kill rating 1.00 Team win percent after first kill 77.8% First kill in won rounds 12.9%
2021-02-22 15:08
6 replies
Why would I bother with those stats? Xeppa has never played in front of a crowd literally ever. Anyway this is a stupid ass conversation because even if Xeppa is some god tier entry fragger you'rre still ignoring everything else Stewie brings to the team. And you're ignoring he plays way better when he's not calling. Also I'm not even hating on Xeppa I like the kid. But he's played a year on Chaos totally online and a few maps in EU. Straight up that is not enough for a team on the cusp.
2021-02-22 18:17
5 replies
so you lie on stats to prove your point and after you say stats dont matter??? xaxaxa
2021-02-22 18:17
3 replies
No my stats are just lifetime stats. Stewie has competed in EU for five years. Xeppa has competed in EU for like 5 maps. How fucking hard is this to understand.
2021-02-22 18:23
2 replies
So 2018 prime Stewie is as good as 2020 stewie? So kennyS is so good at 1.13 rating right?
2021-02-22 18:25
1 reply
Now that he's not calling again? Yeah I think he could be absolutely he's only 23. Plus I prefer a larger sample size when I'm comparing a player who's played one year online in NA. Again this should be really easy to understand. I've said what I'm going to say on this.
2021-02-22 18:28
People thinks you can swap players and the next day everything it will be fixing . Even if Stewie is not the best player, Ihe brings a lot and Twistzzz is good, but a bit overrated. He is starplayer in Faze. Put him in entry fragging and watch ...
2021-02-22 18:32
#142
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Brazil mi4n
+1
2021-02-22 15:34
Xeppa better than stew as an entry?? As a support?? As secondary awp?? Ahahaha, You guys just wanna focus on stats, don't you?
2021-02-22 14:36
+1, People have no respect for good entry fraggers like Stewie or K1to because everyone expects every entry to be Electronic or Dupreeh, not every entry aims to get kills off flashbangs, some of them are made to rush into the site ad get the site without much utility and when they do, they always win round caus etheres plenty of flashes and smokes for post plant, also as you said stew specifically is super versatile and you can see from the comms and just the way he acts, he brings a ton of energy and mental fortitude to a team with 3 very queit players personality wise(elige,grim and NAF) and I think everybody knows how good it feels to have someone hyping you up while playing, it makes you do way better, Stew deserves his spot in liquid
2021-02-22 15:21
1 reply
#176
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Brazil llskll
+1
2021-02-22 17:56
+1 fucking finally some common sense. i swear to god hltv users determine which player is good by the number of twitch clip highlights they have
2021-02-23 19:34
+1 omg thx someone with brain!!
2021-02-24 18:54
+1 It's time for TACO to return
2021-02-22 07:34
#107
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Italy bennyhana
this post did not age well because he performed good against NaVi but can he do consistently?
2021-02-22 07:34
1 reply
Given the roles he plays, it's a tall task to perform consistently like that.
2021-02-22 10:52
Please explain for me, why they would change anything. Dude, they won against mouz, navi, faze and og. I mean its obviously good teams so why would they kick stewie if its working with him, frags isnt all it matters.
2021-02-22 08:02
#117
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Poland pimaZo
He is so good lurke/2nd entry player and now started shining w/o IGL's responsibilities
2021-02-22 11:22
do you know how cs works, or are some brain dead guy that thinks you should only sign star riflers, 1 igl and 1 awp?, do you know how roles work, or what they are.
2021-02-22 14:26
Hes super important for them The amount of info he gets, the bait he provide, ect. Also hes good to keep the hype up, you need a hyped guys on your team.
2021-02-22 14:31
#127
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Indonesia DioBrando
Because 1. You cant kick snake out of the team 2. He is the star of TL 3. He helps TL sell merchandise to kids 4. He is good as second caller 5. You need cheerleader for the team
2021-02-22 14:51
Hes working as a second caller, and is the only aggressive rifler and entry fragger on the roster. If they kick him it has to be for an entry.
2021-02-22 15:22
People who dont realize what a beast stewie is dont know shit about cs. He was just missplaced, and now he's unleashed. Smoke criminal is back, motherfuckers! :D
2021-02-22 15:26
People who dont realize what a beast stewie is dont know shit about cs. He was just missplaced, and now he's unleashed. Smoke criminal is back, motherfuckers! :D
2021-02-22 15:26
1 reply
#175
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Australia jed123
+1
2021-02-22 17:55
#141
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Brazil mi4n
I think stew is decent and the team is used to play togheter now. People, calm the f down, the team is winning and having nice results, no need to bet on a change.
2021-02-22 15:28
#153
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Australia jed123
Lol.. why talk shit about stew. He's young. He hasnt reach his prime yet but already have enough experience to play the game a bit more wiser. He is the type of player that is so hard to find now adays. He can be flashy, decoy, clutch and xfactor to any teams. Never discredit a major champ bra. He's more skilled player than you ever thought.
2021-02-22 17:02
entry fragging he is only 23 and is already a major and grand slam winner. Stewie is an asset. Dont listen to bitter hater bots in here who dont like him.
2021-02-22 17:13
2 replies
#174
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Australia jed123
+1
2021-02-22 17:55
#219
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Israel Redku
Smart Dane wtf
2021-02-23 04:28
#161
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Sweden Sullijam
true -stewie2k +oBo
2021-02-22 17:17
4 replies
#173
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Australia jed123
What the fuck is oBo. FlameZ and SpinX is way more promising than oBo nonamer
2021-02-22 17:54
3 replies
#177
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Sweden Sullijam
??? he was a star in col tf u talking about. and yes spinx and flamez can be very nice
2021-02-22 18:09
2 replies
yea wtf is this retard on they basically have identical stats the only difference was that obo was playing against t1 teams and flamez was farming t3 cups
2021-02-22 19:43
1 reply
#255
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Sweden Sullijam
+1
2021-02-23 18:31
The guy has a lot of personality for playoffs. Maybe the mainly reason clown9 won the major. He has the necessary steadiness for dificult times. With fallen I think he will be one of the bests.
2021-02-22 17:20
#166
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Germany Chexa
i know its only been something like 2 series, but since stewie hasnt had to igl he has been critical in liquids recent wins, top fragging two maps agaisnts navi, and a strong performance against vita also
2021-02-22 17:21
Because he is face of Liquid and eLiGe/NAF go cry if stew leaves LUL
2021-02-22 17:22
#170
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Brazil miloa
FalleN said that in Nuke Stewie is the igl
2021-02-22 17:23
3 replies
only on nuke though is what he meant
2021-02-23 07:34
2 replies
#241
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Brazil miloa
exactly, and since liquid likes to play nuke, they "need" Stewie. and sorry for my bad english, I'm using the translator
2021-02-23 12:51
1 reply
it's fine, your english actually is fine
2021-02-23 22:25
#171
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Brazil llskll
Why do silvers keep giving their opinion? Why do fans generally think they know more than professional players? Unanswered questions
2021-02-22 17:48
2 replies
so you are telling me that the guys on HLTV dont know more than the professional analysts at team liquid?
2021-02-23 05:16
1 reply
#244
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Brazil llskll
Yes hahahahaha
2021-02-23 16:30
because he won the 1v1 vs s1mple on the 3rd map, bringing the map to overtime in which Liquid won. Stewie_1_major_s1mple_0
2021-02-22 17:51
Because personality I think the mood would go to shit without him
2021-02-22 19:38
because they need someone to call on nuke, or else they will have 2 perma bans, obviously...
2021-02-23 02:29
because he's an entry fragger and team player lol
2021-02-23 02:40
#217
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United States julianwb
entry, no one on liquid entries or makes space but him and he has good impact
2021-02-23 03:38
#218
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Brazil medonhoso
Name a better NA player with more experience, oh wait you cant, NA is fucking dead.
2021-02-23 04:00
#220
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United Kingdom craZy_y0
idk
2021-02-23 04:29
When Stewie left C9 C9 fell apart. Even the manager Jack Etienne (who doesn't know anything about CS) knew that. He was the rock in the team. He adds as much morale outside the game as inside the game. He was the one who kicked Shroud and N0thing and brought them to the major. As for inside the game he creates space and makes many mid round calls. Not only that but he can entry well.
2021-02-23 04:52
He knows how to cook pilaf.
2021-02-23 05:19
There is still a belief in the scene that he will turn into a star one day.
2021-02-23 11:43
guess u didn't see him against NAVI them
2021-02-23 16:12
Why would you get rid of Stewie right now? Are y'all high?
2021-02-23 16:32
if Liquid can some how get Obo - Stewie + Obo
2021-02-23 16:35
i get the sinking feeling that none of you even watch the matches, just look at the stats after they finish. either that or you only pay attention to what stewie is doing when something goes wrong, and not the countless times when things go right. actual braindead take
2021-02-23 19:33
3 replies
but stewies stats arent even that bad just by themselves either so i just really dont get the stewie hate, especially now without igling he will be insane again
2021-02-24 19:10
2 replies
yeah, that's also true. for example, if you look at stewie's entry stats you'll see that he is one of the best entries out there. but people only pay attention to k/d
2021-02-24 20:18
1 reply
+ he makes big plays, is probably really influencing the teams mood in a good way, can awp, decent clutcher, solid entry... i love him a lot and others should too
2021-02-24 20:27
Secondary caller. Aggressive playstyle. Decent player whose proven he knows how to win.
2021-02-23 19:41
Secondary caller, aggressive entry. Good leader, hype man
2021-02-24 00:23
+1 add fcking Osee or something, cuz fallen cant awp anymore hes so bad ngl
2021-02-24 05:33
2 replies
fuck I´ll bite this bait >fallen cant awp >beated the shit out of zywoo and s1mple in the past two matches pick just one, ma frend
2021-02-24 05:35
1 reply
Brazil fanboy got angry now? :D hes washed bro just admit it
2021-02-24 15:23
The team is winning why change?
2021-02-24 14:17
1 reply
#294
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Poland SesseR4N
+1
2021-02-24 18:53
Now that Stewie isn't IGL, he is freed up to play the way that he used to. It is clear that it was the right decision, if the vitality and navi games are anything to go by.
2021-02-24 20:11
Because Stewie is the guy who gets two kills and then dies so his team can clean up. Also, everyone on the team except fallen beside him is super emo and will just give up at 10-0. If Stewie isn't keeping the spirits up then the liquid would probably all enter a suicide pact with each other. Who else would they sign? autimatic? lol.
2021-02-24 20:19
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