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Japan is known as a "modern" country right? So why is the esports scene so small? Any japanese user would know how to answer?
Honestly, having kids addicted to playing video games isn't exactly a good thing.
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Well, that requires a lot of kids being addicted to playing games first.
I'm guessing there just isn't enough public interest in order to justify investing in eSports. The lack of public interest could stem from culture and how society views video games. You have the more conservative (is that the right word?) Asian style of upbringing. Cram school, lots of school and homework, good grades, and then university and finally an office job most likely. Also, I've heard that there are less internet cafe's in Japan. This could be because of the readily available PC's at home, and just because they don't have a culture for it like Korea. (I honestly don't know how PC Bangs got so popular in Korea. Is it because of the starcraft boom and it just became popular? Idk. In China it's because there are a lot of poorer areas, and going to an internet cafe for 5yuan - 20yuan [$0.70USD = 1 yuan approx.] a day is cheaper than buying your own rig)
Edit: They have a huge fighting game and Nintendo scene though. Like tekken, street fighter, smash, etc. They have a lot of arcades.
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the arcade scene in JP is fucking insane
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by saying internet cafe, you mean lan houses right? because in Brazil they ceirtainly are popular in some regions, but not quite as it used to be.
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Lan houses used to be very popular in China like 10-20 years ago.
Most city families can afford gaming PCs now, but lan houses are still popular in rural areas
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+1 the culture isn’t how it is in the west
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just like Korea japan has insane standards of education which reduces the amount of time teenagers have free, while there are a lot of pro players in Korea same can’t be said about japan which means that parents are less likely to allow their kids to spend their spare time playing games
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Pc bangs are LAN centres here in Korea.
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that for sure would be really interesting but i really doubt valve cares at all.
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"In 2004, Valve made a notorious decision to charge 15 dollars per month for every computer in PC Bangs in Korea"
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Just looked up sudden attack, wtf mens. I thought Koreans had higher standard than that piece of shit looking game
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How big is valorant now? Or how much bigger than cs?
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Interesting, I thought that might happen. I hope it turns into the situation with dota and league where dota gets the league players who want a “harder” game. I Don’t play either but that’s what I’ve heard
How about Point Blank in south korea mens? I thought it was the one that pretty popular there
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The smash scene over there is alive but because nintendo are a bunch of backwards old idiots they don't provide any prize pools for their tournaments, as paying entry fees is considered illegal gambling over there. For example, one of the better JP ultimate players, shuton, won smash ultimate's evo japan tournement awhile back and got ... a controller. That's it. 2nd, 3rd and so forth got nothing. And that's for ultimate, their newest game... all of their other games get nothing at all. Meanwhile tekken tournaments over there have mutli-tens of thousand dollar prize pools, if not more lol
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It's a cultural thing. My wife is from Korea, and she says Japan is the same way but even more strict. Parents don't allow much free time rather often
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what I have seen in japan you really don't have much time for yourself either
they play LoL
I don't recall seeing japanese players really in most esports, the scene is really tiny or in really specific games. They mostly eating kimchi n shit i don't know what else they do
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I thought all the bel-tards were doing an uprising, why are you here?
kimchi is korean I think
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Probably, either way Japan is a country I would not want to live in.
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except they dont really have a scene in those games either
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i heard apex legends is huge in japan
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apex isn't even considered an esport in my opinion.
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there's esports side of it still, and whenever i see japanese apex streams they have huge viewers especially on youtube
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yeah but they aren't there for apex, they're there for the streamer. Shroud could literally sit there and cry like a baby, literally, and he'd still get viewers and donations. That's just how the streamer life is, a lot of people with nothing better to do.
Also partially because a lot of people just end up watching the people with the most viewers, that's why they generally stay at the top even if the content is pretty trashy.
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cuz they are smarter than us and study more and are busy making money
They rather play in gamehalls and rarely own a gaming pc and fps isnt that popular there. Gaming culture is completely different there.
The thing with eSports in japan is actually complicated.
For a long time, videogames tournaments couldn't provide huge economic prizes because they would fall inside the gambling category by the law.
Now there's an org that regulates eSports and provides "pro-gamer" licenses to players in order to be able to win huge payouts in tournaments but it seemed that or was also a bit sketchy with their intentions in doing so. Also, some Japanese pros were against it because they felt it didn't make sense to have an org saying who can make a living out of videogames and who couldn't base in god knows what...
And there's also the fear of the mafia will start to get deeply involved in eSports scenes. (They're already a problem with anything related to gambling).
I'm doing an overall summary based on what I learned about the topic following Fighting Games.
If you do research about the topic, I'm sure you'll find some deep dives about the topic.
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no, japanese scene is dead thats why
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What hikikomori's playing often? MMORPG?
Laz was pretty much the only one that could go international. He was good
there is a negative correlation between educational intensity and national csgo prevalence. This negative correlation is why countries like Russia, Brazil, and the Balkans all have thriving cs scenes whereas countries like the US, Japan, and China's cs scenes are dying
obvious outliers in africa considering their lack of technology and education
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This post was going well until you included US in the countries that put social pressure on educational intensity, lmao. NA scene is dying because they're just garbage and move to Valorant.
And that still isn't the reason CSGO isn't relevant in Japan, it's just a West game. Just like nobody here has a clue what Crossfire is even though it has millions of players in China.
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the famous esports in Japan are mostly fighting games and pokemon as far as I'm aware
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1. School is very time consuming there
2. Prize money is really low there since law bans events whose prize money is over something (might have been something like 900€) and promotes something besides it (in this case, game)
3. Japansese players play tends to play games development by japansese companies
4. Assuming that Japan is really conservative, career as esports player isnt probably supported there really
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most kids when i go to an esports cafe here are either playing valorant, LoL or Apex. I think we will see more Japanese pros popping in the valorant scene soon. But fighting games are way bigger here than FPS. I ranked up 5 ranks in 4 weeks in CS when i first moved here.
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I am very confused by the fact valve released a lot of arcade exclusives in japan
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i think they prefer mobile gaming, specially the gacha genre
Have you seen the reports on how much free time students and workers get over there? Japan is well known for it's long working hours, they even have a word for being overworked to death lol. That extends to schooling too. People have been trying to change that for decades but very little has changed. E-sports just doesn't fit into their incredibly tight schedules on a massive scale.
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Like many have said, Japan and school are big reasons. Japan actually did have a very small scene for a while though. However when valorant came along the entire scene jumped ship. Literally all of the pros. I'm pretty sure they were fairly successful in val. Idk if they still are.
I do know there is a fair bit of japanese people following pro cs on twitter as well.
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they play video games on consoles
Because they have a well developed domestic gaming industry which takes up market share from western games like CS GO.
PC gaming in general is less popular there for the same reason. Playstation and Nintendo dominate the market.
all play fighting games or MMOs
japan had a couple pro teams but they all moved to Valorant
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Most of them are in Seige or Valorant.
they do have a gaming scene, but not a large esports scene because the games that are popular in their culture are not comp games
PC gaming is barely a thing in Japan. And esports on consoles is a joke.
CSGO racist towards Japanese people
Japanese ppl working while we nerds playing computer games
modern doesnt mean they need to have esports scene, but i think they had scene, not in CS though
they are busy drifting in Tokyo
Japan views gaming as gambling.. i know wierd, I believe things are changing (valorant is rising) but atm you can't really run profitable events.
If I'm not mistaken Evo Japan couldn't charge entrants
PC Gaming is not a thing in Japan
Arcade culture + Sony/Nintendo influence
The only big FPS there is Apex Legends
only foreigners play Cs Go, or Dota 2 in Japan lol
They don't play pc that much lmao.
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cuz brazilians are poor and you can play cs on 50$ pc
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All I can say is that it's a shame that players like RIPablo never got a chance to try his hand against better opponents. That's why CSs asian scene has been gutted by valo, as they're willing to and have set up weeklies that are sponsored by intel and the like... sure you only get like $100 if you win but that's ten trillion times better than the NOTHING that valve has set up over there. For example, it took bntet years upon years of literally holding a team on his back 100% of the way to even get remotely noticed on the international stage, and even now he's not even close to the upper echelons of play. Maybe one day we'll see asia come into prominence but it'd almost certainly be a chinese/ korean team like tyloo, vici or MVP PK, not a JP one. In the entirety of my time watching CS I've only ever known one interesting JP team that's ignis, and they've since moved to valo lmao
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Japanese doesn't see it as work. And everything that isn't work make you worthless.
they only good at nintendo or fighting game i think. if team game i only heard splatoon and japan is top tier but who cars right?
Japanese actually look down upon pc gamers, people will think you’re weird if you have a computer and play games on it, they will actually avoid you. Pc’s are usually only used for work related stuff. The mobile scene is the biggest I believe in Japan.
Too busy watching hentai animu and k-pop
Compare the level of technology of any country with the development of e-sports (For 1st world countries) and you will find the relationship is inversely proportional, the Japanese community has more interest in technological development rather than playing games, which is reflected from the conservative ethics of the old Japanese (Work and development), environment such as Europe take humans rights and people comfort seriously, which reflected the development in the entertainment scenes in general (Football, Esports, and almost every other sport).
Actually Japan has a really good esports scene but not when it comes to CS:GO, unfortunately...
First of all, there is no soil. Japanese people have not been interested in global e-sports titles since time immemorial. Right now, they are into APEX.(Younger children prefer fortnite, but most play it on Switch.)
Secondly, there are no good training partners. The few good players and teams disappear without improving each other.
Lastly, Japanese are not good at English and cannot establish a base of operations overseas(me too).
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