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United States colbert^ 
At their current form in katowice it looks like they can actually win the event. They have proven that they can beat NaVi. The only test left is to beat Astralis, who will probably make it to the semi-finals to play liquid. I think if Liquid can beat Astralis they can beat NaVi in the final (even though NaVi > Astralis atm; Astralis is just the best team for countering Liquid). Also winning this event would make them a top team. Vitality has proven to be pretty bad and overrated (I was the guy who made the "Vitality sucks" thread). I think Liquid will get 1st or 2nd in katowice and rise to hltv top3, and they should be able to stay there. If they can beat NaVi with FalleN whiffing and Grim being inconsistent, then if they can get their individual form consistent they should be a top team with Astralis and NaVi, and above everyone else.
2021-02-23 14:33
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imo it will be liquid vs vp not liquid astralis
2021-02-23 14:35
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#4
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United States colbert^
I know VP have looked good and Astralis not so much, but usually Astralis tends to bounce back and I think they will just outplay VP strat wise. Both teams play pretty slow and I think Astralis can just outplay them.
2021-02-23 14:37
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ik, but vp looked very very strong lately, won cs summit 7 without losing a single map, not the best teams but still
2021-02-23 14:51
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True, it is very possible for VP to win, but I just feel like Astralis will win this because they are Astralis. If they lose the match that could be a sign of them declining actually.
2021-02-23 14:53
and astralis won basicly everything last years
2021-02-24 04:47
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#98
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Slovakia Daev0n
lmao no
2021-02-24 05:02
Well when Astralis gets 16-1’ed they tend to go full on training mode :p sooo lets see, my prediction is that they Will stomp VP VP have been playing very well lately tho
2021-02-24 05:53
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+1 people get overexcited with Astralis shape but analyzing mistakes, dealing with issues and bouncing back is what makes them special. It's not like they weren't in shitty place before lol hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/73177/.. but it's true, vp is a great team and they can definitely win
2021-02-24 13:05
Exactly my thought when i saw'em losing the first half w/o scoring a single point, and they where not actually bad but just got outplayed everywhere, but if they are actually that good w/o having a hard training session, imagine now that they might be full focused on their game
2021-02-25 15:47
BREAKING NEWS: WHAT A SURPRISE US LIQUID FANS ARE SAD THAT WE LOST TO ASTRALIS AGAIN AS THEY HAVE THE BEST MAP POOL AGAINST US WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2021-02-23 14:35
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#27
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China SwooksarV2
Don't make me cry
2021-02-23 16:59
#29
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Brazil RmM_oo
ez there is all mind games
2021-02-23 17:09
just bait them into picking train, epl s8 finals style
2021-02-23 20:18
4 replies
that'd be funny af
2021-02-23 20:21
bait them into picking train only to lose 1-3?
2021-02-24 05:28
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at least they won train lol
2021-02-24 15:57
get revenge for Astralis picking Vertigo at Berlin XD
2021-02-24 06:18
why are responses to this comment only from TL fans lol
2021-02-24 18:50
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cuz we hate ourselves lol
2021-02-24 19:36
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#5
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United States colbert^
I read this thread a couple days ago and I believe you men
2021-02-23 14:38
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IMO liquid can be Top1 they just need time to practice even more they already had the skill-set they only needed an awper and and IGL now liquid is top 3 IMO
2021-02-23 14:39
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Yes they definitely have the skills, and now maybe the calling as well with FalleN. 2020 was such a mess for Liquid because it was just watching them make a ton of mistakes, but in the past few months Liquid has improved a ton. The success of the team now is determined by how consistent FalleN and Grim can be I think, since Elige and NAF are always fragging hard.
2021-02-23 14:43
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Also don't forget how important Stewie has been in recent matches, against NaVi we saw a glimpse of what he might be able to do if he gets his head in the game and starts grinding like he used to do back in the day, imo stew was the main reason for Fallen and Grim's underperformance to go unpunished, cuz he stepped up like never seen before on Liquid
2021-02-24 15:11
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Well it would be wrong to say that stewie wasn't grinding before, but now he gets to focus on being a better player himself and yes it made a huge difference against NaVi
2021-02-24 17:30
not katowice so its either epl or blast
2021-02-28 14:41
they won against navi without s1mple barely
2021-02-23 14:41
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But they didn't have FalleN at all, and most of the game they didn't really have Grim (until the end :))
2021-02-23 14:44
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like fallen ever has impact
2021-02-24 18:59
Bad b8
2021-02-23 14:56
without simple? he top fragged hello?
2021-02-23 21:56
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ig he was talking abt inferno
2021-02-24 04:48
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that would make no sense then, just cause he didn’t perform in a map as well as he does, DOESNT mean he’s not present in the match
2021-02-24 05:04
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it was a bad performance for s1mple tho (for s1mple's level). as long as he's starplayer, he gets way more tradekills than others. that's what he said. well, tbf he wasnt at 's1mple' level any of those maps.
2021-02-24 05:08
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Maybe one way of beating NaVi is nullifying simple and that's what they've done or he just had an off series
2021-02-24 05:42
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im not that sure if ot was on purpose or if it was a bad performance for s1mple, i havent watch the demo. during the game, i notice how simple was tilted and start to do some bad or non-competitive things, like trying to knife elige cause stew’s knife, even with bad economy. ill watch it later to check if they did anything special against simple, but its kinda hard as long as he’s protected almost always.
2021-02-24 05:53
They have proven they can beat NAVI but it was way too close for comfort (16-14 overpass, destroyed on dust2 and double OT on inferno). Im still not comfortably sure whether they could beat NAVI again
2021-02-23 14:41
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Mistakes on Liquid's part were what let Overpass and Inferno get so close. Both of those maps could have been closed out much sooner. NaVi is the best dust2 team and I have my doubts about ANY team beating them on that map, but Liquid should be able to do it given their amount of skill. At their peak they can out-aim NaVi. If Liquid are able to beat NaVi on dust2 then I am confident they can win the whole BO5.
2021-02-23 14:51
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fun fact stewie2k was the only player on liquid with a positive k/d on dust 2
2021-02-23 14:57
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Yes dust2 was a mess, Liquid were no match for navi on that map. They will need to get better at dust2 for sure if they want to win the event because every team remaining in the tournament is good at dust2.
2021-02-23 15:02
not so fun fact :(
2021-02-23 20:24
#168
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Denmark BadTakes
sad fact :(
2021-02-24 19:10
same mistakes that made navi lose ovp? if not for those it would ve been 2-0, you cant deny how close this match was especially by using the mistakes argument cs is a game of mistakes after all
2021-02-23 14:59
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lol it was 14-9, liquid made a lot of mistakes at the end but adjusted for the last 2 rounds(especially the smart play to keep monster smoked for basically the entire round when they noticed grim and stewie struggling)
2021-02-23 20:20
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2021-02-24 18:47
14-9 on overpass 10-5 half on inferno 10-5 half on inferno might be like 75% chance of winning
2021-02-24 04:50
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see, you both only use numbers to fit ur narrative, talking about liquids mistakes. how about navi's mistakes in the 1st half of overpass? they lost 5-6 man advantages, crippled the economy, lost momentum. inferno obviously a different story and still once they regained control lost crucial rounds in ot. you shouldn't be so one sided, it was literally a game of mistakes
2021-02-24 18:45
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im not saying navi didnt have mistakes, but clearly liquid got huge advantages there and couldnt keep those advantages (specially on inferno)
2021-02-24 19:01
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yeah but what i said was as much as liquid could have won easier, navi could have won eaisier as well
2021-02-24 19:04
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Agreed. Liquid were lucky to win overpass. Could've been an easy 2-0 for NaVi. Should have been. NAF went crazy and NaVi gave away multiple rounds that crippled their economy. Liquid got ran over on the B site all CT side. They looked confused in the 2nd half. Had NaVi won one more round on the T side, allowing themselves a better economy, they would have won easily. NaVi's mistakes far outweighed the ones Liquid made on overpass and were far more damaging. NaVi played like shit first half. Still have to give credit to Liquid for securing the win, they did make some big plays. The fact that they won Inferno shows they were the better team. But they were lucky to even make it to that 3rd map.
2021-02-25 05:35
#9
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Imo Lulquid is already a top team, as u have said, they can win this tourney. However, I don't think liquid would last very long on the top. Fallen is old and he will retire soon. And who is the next person to take on, Twistzz again?
2021-02-23 14:41
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Probably import a SA awper maybe HEN1? Who knows maybe a upcoming NA awper will become the next ZYWHO in the next 2 years, who knows doubt it though
2021-02-23 19:02
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#42
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
The problem is that Fallen is IGL, when he retires either they will have to find another IGL or put Stewie back to this role, as u remember last year for liquid wasn't the best year. This is what I mean. Speaking about awper, I would say naf is pretty good. defo not the best, but he fits well in liquid imo
2021-02-23 20:17
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Well, for igl w/ more experience Shakezullah in the next 2-3 years may be a suitable replacement
2021-02-23 20:22
Liquid already have top tier riflers, so Fallen does not need to be a GOD tier awper like s1mple Zywoo or dev1ce, but he needs to have the impact that is expected out of an awper. Currently he is not playing well enough for Liquid to be a top 3 team but I believe that he will improve.
2021-02-23 21:48
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Fair to say he does make impact frags with the awp every now and then.
2021-02-24 00:48
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He played great vs FaZe and Vitality but had a really bad off game vs NaVi
2021-02-24 04:02
#124
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Brazil angryyyy
Fallen wont retire bro he is #1 player
2021-02-24 12:45
#127
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Brazil Par4dox11
Ngl, but I think that if FalleN starts winning, he won't retire. Get Tom Brady for example, the guy is playing a contact sport at the age of 43, a injury could be devastating for his future, but since he still wins, he keeps going. IMO, FalleN doesn't need to frag out, he just needs to hit the shots he needs to hit and keep up with the outstanding shoutcalling he has done. IMO, FalleN's strats and calling has been winning Liquid games, even if he's peforming bad.
2021-02-24 12:58
yes, i agree
2021-02-23 14:42
Nice joke. VP Will 2:0 them. It was 200iq move from navi to play VP IN THE FINAL.
2021-02-23 14:47
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VP will not beat astralis sorry bro. And if they do, then Liquid ez 2-0 them
2021-02-23 15:12
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I dont think that liquid will 2-0 them if they pass Astralis
2021-02-24 06:17
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Ok good point I could see VP winning overpass or dust2 against liquid
2021-02-24 06:50
spirit are looking like the best team in katowice so far if they keep up their current form they'll win no doubt
2021-02-23 14:56
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lol
2021-02-23 17:26
flair checks out. i dont think so, they played against clown9 and tons of teams that got some bad performance recently (heroic, g2, big). yeah, spirit performance is damn good and they def have a winning chance, but navi, astralis, liquid and vp have more chance imo. have u seen yekindar stats this year? thats fkin impressive for an entry fragger
2021-02-24 05:00
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#100
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Slovakia VERGiLx
VP lost to NIP 2-0, they are too inconsistent. Spirit looked best out of any team, but with week to prepare for one opponent Navi and Astralis will come strong.
2021-02-24 05:06
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1 match lost isnt a reason for a team to be inconsistent. VP won 12/14 matches this year, they have the best entry fragger of the world right now by far + a top 5 awper with good igl skills. man, yekindar this year has fucking 1.40+ impact.
2021-02-24 05:13
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#105
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Slovakia VERGiLx
They lost dust2 to navi 16:11 after being 4:11 up, they played mostly vs tier2/tier3 teams in 2021. Their performance is very inconsistent, buster on overpass vs NIP and qikert on d2 vs NIP, most of the time they can still win even if they throw because they play vs worse teams, they are probably weakest team left in tournament rn
2021-02-24 05:23
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sorry, i forgot about navi match, it was 11/14. about your arguments: no, they didnt play against tier 2/3 teams. they played against: furia twice, vitality, navi, mouz, fnatic. against those teams, they just lost to navi. are they tier 2/3 teams? how can they be inconsistent with those results? spirit lost to gambit, played with a lot of bad teams, like fpf, forze, sprout and cloud9. they just got 3 good results in a row and people think they are the best team, wtf. im not saying spirit is bad, its def good
2021-02-24 05:35
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#109
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Slovakia VERGiLx
Spirit only lost to Gambit this year, and they played BIG 2x, Heroic, Astralis and G2, those teams are much stronger than Vitality without practice, Furia or Mousesports, they almost 16-0 Astralis, meanwhile VP lost to bots in pyjamas, its not only about results but also way they play, Spirit has best stats in last 3 months vs top 20 teams. They are much much better than VP. hltv.org/stats?startDate=2020-11-24&endD..
2021-02-24 05:50
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im not saying they doesnt have impressive results, but all those impressive results happened last week. heroic have been dropping hard on rankings, like g2. the ‘good team’ heroic lost to fnatic and mouz this year, for example.
2021-02-24 06:00
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#113
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Slovakia VERGiLx
Yes but this tournament end this week so its pretty relevant
2021-02-24 05:59
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as i said, they just had 6 matches at a competitive level this year. 2 of them was against teams with huge performances issues: heroic is struggling this year, lost to mouz, fnatic, etc - ‘bad teams’ as you said. g2 is probably even worse. even big, as most teams, isnt as good as the end of the year. spirit almost got 2-0’ed by g2 and astralis.
2021-02-24 06:11
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#115
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Slovakia VERGiLx
Well you will see when VP loses to astralis and Spirit beats Navi
2021-02-24 06:11
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i think vp will lose to astralis, but also spirit might lose to navi.
2021-02-24 06:15
Interesting, liquid is definitely is definitely up there, but with the likes of spirit going on an absolute rampage, it just seems unlikely they will win, either way it's up to performance and form, if s1mple steps up and boombl8 and the rest perform, Spirit keeps going on rampage, or Astralis Wake up then liquid is kinda screwed
2021-02-23 15:17
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Yes I didn't even mention spirit; they are looking really dangerous now
2021-02-23 15:25
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Degster especially, rn i just wanna see spirit win lol, such an underrated team
2021-02-23 15:34
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Choppa god
2021-02-23 16:58
dester too op
2021-02-24 06:21
knowing hltv TL can win katowice and still be #2 in the rankings lmao
2021-02-23 17:05
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ofc, it took liquid till like June 2019 to become #1 despite winning iem sydney, epl s9, and dh dallas
2021-02-23 20:21
No even if they win, Navi and Astralis will have more points than them I think
2021-02-23 21:48
to be fair Na'Vi and AST have been more consistent before 2021 and later parts of 2020 :)
2021-02-25 16:02
I do think they can win the event but I don't predict NaVi games because I think that complexity overall is not beating them tbh. Both teams at top form, NaVi wins. The problem is that when NaVi turns up on the server it feels like, especially now, that they could be in any form. I don't see liquid beating Astralis who (mostly kek) have been playing well. I don't even think liquid is really that good at the moment, they've lost some maps they shouldn't have and also have had some really close ones. (given how much people are hyping them up) Saying vitality is pretty bad really makes no sense. Yes, flair and flag checks out. But it they clearly did very well in 2020. However following the player break they have been playing really mediocre, just I don't think that they're bad, but overrated is fair. Also they have't really proven that, they are just in a slump at the moment. Liquid is no doubt in my mind in honey moon, but only time will tell. They could get top 3 and stick around there, but with this current form I don't see it. This last argument makes no sense thats no how it works lol. If Vita can win with zywoo playing bad against x top ranked team then they should never lose again if zywoo is back on 1.3+ like no.
2021-02-23 17:11
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1. True, NaVi in peak form is better than any other team right now 2. Yes it's a one-sided rivalry, but this would be the time for Liquid to prove themselves. Astralis are not in their top form right now anyways. 3. I am kinda biased against vitality because I just don't like them for various reasons so maybe I exaggerated, but I do really believe that Liquid is better now and that they will remain better 4. Liquid are only improving and I don't think they are in a honeymoon period because of how bad they were at Blast groups. Their calling is getting better (with fallen), and NAF is back in very good form with EliGE. And stew has had significantly more impact now that he doesn't have to IGL anymore. Also their recent success will only motivate them to win more, and mindset was always an issue with these guys. That's why I think Liquid will rise to the top3 and stay there.
2021-02-23 21:40
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Yeah I would like it if Liquid would beat Astralis, although I did really like twistzz so I don't want Liquid to start being insane the moment he leaves lol, so I'm biased in that sense. I can see why you wouldn't like Vitality considering the huge advantage they get with staff in this online era. Although personally I do think it will translate to lan but thats another topic. I'm just so reluctant with Liquid because as a NiP fan I've seen us all of a sudden get better a bit after a new player is added the just to go to shit again. I'm honestly very undecided on Fallen and how he stands as an IGL in my mind. In terms of individuals I just don't like "csgo maths" were its like oh if this guy does better than they beat this team cuz they almost won when this guy was doing bad or whatever. I mean I actually kind of agree with that logic sometimes, but ehhh its just a bit iffy. However that is a very good point on mindset. I remember the young goat himself twistzz spoke about it. And for sure liquid has insane firepower. I'm just a bit worried that maybe Fallen could become complacent once more and then that sort of impacts the team. I think for sure Liquid have a shot at 3. It's just I feel like Fallen is a pretty huge change and I don't feel confident in making any calls for the future of liquid yet (nip fans xd).
2021-02-23 22:31
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Yes FalleN is really what determines Liquid's success right now
2021-02-24 04:00
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Brazil Anarchybr
Man at this moment TL are underdogs of course but if they really gonna beat Astralis, then they need fallen to play like he did against Vitality when he destroyed zywh00 and company asses, but they will also need Elige and NAF to keep their elite levels and Stewie and Grim to be serviceable
2021-02-23 17:12
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Elige and Naf are reliable, but you are correct - FalleN will be the game changer against Astralis
2021-02-23 21:42
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#131
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Brazil Anarchybr
Yeah, I’m not concerned about Elige and NAF, they’re being crazy consistent (Elige of course is more reliable but NAF always show up in some sick clutches). Fallen’s IGL has been great but he needs to sustain his groove on the server awping as well. Stewie and Grim consistency concerns me more
2021-02-24 14:01
i guess they need a better nuke's bomb a. if they have that, they'll have a solid chance. nuke is probably the worst map for astralis, its basicly the map exploited by navi and vitality. liquid already has a good t side + a top tier outside/ramp.
2021-02-24 05:22
i don't think so stewie and fallens fragging is just too bad and grim ain't looking too hot either i am gladly proven otherwise tho would hate seeing pure cis final
2021-02-23 17:12
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Stewie was fragging pretty good against Navi only had 4 kills less than simple
2021-02-23 20:40
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thats one single series lets see how it continues
2021-02-23 21:03
Stewie played great against NaVi undoubtedly, you can't just look at stats FalleN did play really bad though; Elige and Naf had to carry For liquid to win, FalleN must step it up
2021-02-23 21:50
Yes a CIS only final would be a boring AF match
2021-02-23 21:50
Is FalleN whiffing too much? I watched a lot of rounds of all Liquid's matches since Fallen joined in and i got the impression that he is hitting most of his shots, principally the most important ones.
2021-02-23 17:21
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Agreed...
2021-02-23 17:22
2021-02-23 17:26
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Those games he was a god but against NaVi he was a bot
2021-02-23 21:50
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#125
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Brazil angryyyy
i think he's adapting, just wait for the right moment and we will blow EU and CIS asses bro! #liquidtop1soon.
2021-02-24 12:50
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PRESENTE PROFESSOR!
2021-02-24 17:28
he's whiffed a lot on inferno against navi and could make better tactical decisions in how he peeks, but he seems to be outdueling many star players like zywoo and s1mple as a whole, so it's fine for now
2021-02-23 20:23
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#92
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Brazil bigjohnson
Inferno is not his best map for sure, specially on CT side. I guess it has to do with him playing the A site now as he always played B site in his previous teams. Maybe he can improve like he did on nuke tho
2021-02-24 04:45
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for sure, it will definitely take some time that will not be coming from now until then
2021-02-24 15:57
he is definitely whiffing less than any other awper on liquid
2021-02-23 20:26
If liquid wins, this will be amazing
2021-02-23 17:22
#36
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United States Azaqa
No chance Na'Vi make it to finals they struggle against tier 3 cis teams and they have to beat 2 cis teams that are looking like top 5 teams atm
2021-02-23 17:24
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NaVi already experienced their first loss in the tournament which means they will bounce back and make it to the final
2021-02-23 21:51
0/8 it’s time for CIS to rise
2021-02-23 18:03
1 reply
False hope
2021-02-23 21:51
They wont be able to beat na'vi again. How many times does s1mple have as bad of a game as he did last time on inferno in a year? It's so unlikely that he plays as badly if they play again.
2021-02-23 19:06
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fallen also had a horrendous game, also when s1mple doesn't frag, other people on navi do(electronic and boombl4 did well on inferno)
2021-02-23 20:24
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elec was negative kd before the triple kill on the short stack, I'm pretty sure. But he had a good game. The other navi players have good games when s1mple is playing well too tho. Also fallen is just overall a pretty inconsistent player atleast for liquid he has been.
2021-02-23 20:32
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yeah but fallen had a bad game in one of the most important games of the tournament and liquid still managed to win
2021-02-23 20:33
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because the best player rn had one of the worst performances he will have this year?
2021-02-23 21:31
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the best player who didnt get as many kills, opened up more kill opportunities for others like elec and boomb
2021-02-23 22:53
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that's the point, it was an offgame
2021-02-24 06:59
+1
2021-02-23 21:52
i dont really have any stats to back this up, just years and years of watching liquid vs navi matchups. but i feel for the most part liquid has been one of the better teams at shutting down superstar players like zywoo and s1mple. sure, they still perform great, but they seldom have their trademarked insane performances against liquid. now device on the other hand, lets not talk about that
2021-02-23 20:27
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If Liquid play navi in the final and they shut down s1mple again, you have a pretty good point. Zywoo was not good at all when they played liquid
2021-02-23 21:52
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the first time liquid played zywoo at summit 4, he went insane. it feels like every time since then, he still plays good but not to the level he is clearly capable of. i think liquid's overall skill level makes them a good match for teams that are centered around one superstar player
2021-02-24 17:49
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Yes because strategic teams can try to find methods to shut down a player, but s1mple and Zywoo can still outaim then despite the odds Zywoo can't beat an EligePEEK, a Grim spraydown, or a NAF clutch
2021-02-24 17:52
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and thats the truth
2021-02-24 17:52
this is a forum not a fk book
2021-02-23 20:19
3 replies
italia brain on siesta mode
2021-02-23 20:26
> book > one paragraph
2021-02-23 20:28
I gotta provide reasoning bro, otherwise everyone will just say NA KEKW
2021-02-23 21:53
top 3 even if they win it
2021-02-23 20:22
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Yes because they are like 400-500 points behind NaVi and Astralis, and those two teams are in the playoffs as well so Liquid would end up third on HLTV if they place 1st or 2nd in this tournament I think
2021-02-23 21:54
I don't think Liquid will take this... I feel like their are being carried by Eliges and Naf performances... Stewie, Grim and Fallen, has been very hit or miss (especially the last one).
2021-02-23 20:30
#61
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Denmark Xipingu
I am more surprised that Spirit of all teams is in the semifinals. Wth (but otherwise agree, there is a good chance)
2021-02-23 20:37
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#89
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Russia reguix
Maybe cuz they demolished astralis
2021-02-24 04:13
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#184
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Denmark Xipingu
I know, but the performance came out of left field for me
2021-02-25 20:20
#79
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United States Xanbibi
na 0-2 LULQUID
2021-02-23 21:55
Its not that grim is inconsistent its just that he has never faced this level of opponent before so I expect him to keep getting better and better
2021-02-23 21:56
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#94
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Brazil bigjohnson
+1 still a developing player
2021-02-24 04:48
It were some really silly mistakes on NaVi's part that cost them Inferno: they lost a few 5 on 3 both on the attack and defense sides (eg. when Grim did 3 frags from the pit). And Liquid's own map pick was 16-14: not so convincing. On a rematch NaVi will destroy Liquid, just like they did in a previous tournament. As for the Katowice -- VP will punish Liquid really hard, just like they did with other teams so far. If not VP, then Astralis will do it ez.
2021-02-24 00:11
4 replies
name checks out
2021-02-24 14:11
3 replies
can you comment on the substance?
2021-02-24 23:55
2 replies
Teams that make less mistakes during the match= better teams
2021-02-25 15:38
1 reply
Cool. Losing or winning one game means nothing. Both Astralis and NaVi have recently won tournaments from lower brackets.
2021-02-26 00:12
Vitality need to already bench washed up players.
2021-02-24 04:15
spirit????? come on mens
2021-02-24 04:20
Good point but, in the liquid vs Na'Vi series, s1mple was having a more "average" performance on Inferno(and still it was very competitive). Liquid do have a shot at winning but I think if we get a Liquid vs Na'Vi Grand Final, Na'vi have a better chance
2021-02-24 05:19
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United States K1NGKY
i think if it comes to a liquid-navi final......they will have less pressure than navi to win...that might play to their advantage
2021-02-24 06:20
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United States Slyckz
got a feeling that astralis will lose to vp hope im wrong
2021-02-24 07:18
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Brazil angryyyy
LETS GO AMERICAN BROTHERS #LIQUID BROTHERHOOD KATOWICE BELONG TO US!!! #LIQUIDTAKEMYENERGY #LIQUIDTOP1SOON #FALLENGOD #STEWIESMOKER #ANYNAFFERS? #ELIGESTRONGAIM #WHATISURPROBLEMGREEN?
2021-02-24 12:52
nice bait lmao shitquid cant win kato are you dumb?
2021-02-24 13:01
16 replies
still mad that navi lost? keep crying mate.
2021-02-24 14:13
15 replies
why is an indian talking? that match doesnt mean anything i doubt navi even cared they still qualify for playoffs clown. cry is free dumbass indian
2021-02-24 14:39
14 replies
Oh yeah they didn't care at all not like electronic was malding out of his mind that whole game LMAO but sure keep telling yourself that every time NaVi loses its either "they already have a spot in the playoffs so they dont care to win, or the other team is "Lucky" Lol same excuses over and over again and it happens every time lmao
2021-02-24 14:44
9 replies
we will see whos talking when navi beats shitquid. ok?
2021-02-24 14:48
8 replies
Lol my guy I could careless who wins that's not what this is about. Its the same excuses you navi fans keeps using every time they lose lmao yall need new excuses
2021-02-24 14:59
7 replies
stupid american *facepalm*
2021-02-24 15:00
6 replies
Typical response from a braindead hltv kid with low IQ. You're so invested in all of this lol Seek help my guy.
2021-02-24 15:04
5 replies
how do you know my iq?
2021-02-24 15:04
4 replies
The fact that you even had to ask that lmao jesus man. Now I feel sorry for you lol
2021-02-24 15:09
3 replies
im trolling stupid americano. listen, shitquid are trash and navi is #1 and so is s1mple now stfu
2021-02-24 15:11
2 replies
Lmao mhm another typical response just like your previous excuses lol I feel like I'm bullying a special kid lol I should stop. This is just embarrassing for you now lol
2021-02-24 15:21
Would you like to give me your excuse why navi lost to gambit? lol I'd like to hear it
2021-02-26 17:10
"This match doesn't mean anything" Flag checks out
2021-02-24 15:35
3 replies
go support Indian team. oh wait...
2021-02-24 15:40
2 replies
I'm waiting.
2021-02-24 15:40
1 reply
ill be honest although i was a bit upset that navi lost i didnt care much cause they qualify anyways...
2021-02-24 16:30
tbh, fallen needs to get his consistency soon. if he does, and the rest of tl continue to deliver, I think there is a high chance that they win katowice
2021-02-24 13:19
how are you guys?
2021-02-24 14:17
9 replies
good wbu?
2021-02-24 16:12
8 replies
good thanks
2021-02-24 23:05
7 replies
Good to hear, whats the weather like in the Americas?
2021-02-25 12:43
6 replies
It's beautiful very sunny where I am at. What's it like in the UK?
2021-02-26 16:53
5 replies
Suprisingly nice, its been sunny for a few days, we did have one cold day but its been fine since then.
2021-02-27 23:28
4 replies
That's cool dude, have a great next week
2021-02-28 13:53
3 replies
mhm you to <3
2021-02-28 14:39
2 replies
thanks, dude <3
2021-02-28 14:48
1 reply
no worries
2021-02-28 18:10
What about spirit? Im not to sure but they seem like they could be a dark horse, I do think liquid can win, but Spirit seem to be doing amazing right now, and you never know whats gonna happen in cs.
2021-02-24 15:10
3 replies
Liquid have never played Spirit before so if those two teams were in the final, it would be very interesting. Especially as a BO5.
2021-02-25 05:25
2 replies
Agreed, but I would still prefer Astralis, because at the end of the day they are the best team, and if we beat them, that prooves something.
2021-02-25 12:38
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We have to beat the winner of Astralis vs VP anyways so if we play Spirit then we probably beat astralis already
2021-02-25 20:00
No way they win this event
2021-02-24 17:53
they only beat NaVi because NaVi played like shit, they will get stomped on a normal day and there is no way they will even reach the final with Astralis in their bracket.
2021-02-24 19:11
A bit bold of you to assume that liquid will just win against astralis Did they break the curse or something????
2021-02-24 23:58
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No they didn't break the curse, but if they were to break the curse, now would be the time since Liquid have been playing well and Astralis have been a bit below their top level recently
2021-02-25 05:24
1 reply
Astralis was not looking good in the last Major either))) Let’s wait and see if they can even beat vp lol
2021-02-25 10:10
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2021-02-28 14:50
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