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-ISSAA +flusha/JACKZ/Kjaerbye or -mantuu +oskar/NaTo/smooya/hallzerk Why ISSAA/mantuu over NBK ? He has the worst roles, always going first, anchoring on all the maps (valde anchoring 3/4, ISSAA 1/2 and Aleksib 1/2 also), everyone flanks but him, Aleksib flanks sometimes, valde and ISSAA are extremities. He's not having bad games rn also, he's doing well imo Why ISSAA/mantuu over valde ? He's a fucking beast and like I said, even tho he has good roles in T side, he's still anchoring, even if it's easier than for NBK cuz he's anchoring on the "good" bombsites, he's still pretty good at it. Why not Aleksib ? He's IGL and good at it, no one available is better than him rn What about ISSAA ? He's playing from Jordania, he has decent roles but doesn't perform. What about mantuu ? He's actually pretty good but quite inexperienced tbh and he sucks against top teams. TLDR : I'd kick ISSAA or mantuu cuz it's the most logical thing to do, I'd still keep mantuu tho
2021-02-23 21:23
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Denmark NT_
Would be suicide to add snakebye. Rather 4vs5 then.
2021-02-23 21:23
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I think that he can be good with a good IGL if he has the roles he prefers but flusha & JACKZ > Shakerbye
2021-02-23 21:24
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he had the opportunity to play niko positions when he left yet he still sucked.
2021-02-23 21:25
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>coldzera >good IGL
2021-02-23 21:26
Kjaergoodbye lul
2021-02-24 02:58
Snakebye...?
2021-02-24 00:45
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Russia UM4R
yes, after astralis won their first major kjaerbye left for north and didnt tell anyone, his dad said he was on a skiing trip but that wasnt true. and they didnt know if he was going to resign the contract because he didnt tell them that he was leaving for north.
2021-02-24 15:10
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lol, didnt know that
2021-02-24 17:14
#3
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Morocco moroccaN
WHY EVERYONE WANTS ISSAA?? whats wrong with him his litteraly the only one in OG that can hold a site alone and do atleast a kill or 2, i smell racism HLTV KIDS
2021-02-23 21:24
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"litteraly the only one in OG that can hold a site alone and do atleast a kill or 2" same for NBK, valde, mantuu and Aleksib
2021-02-23 21:26
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Morocco moroccaN
NBK????? KEKW look at ratings bro NBK is a boomer he doesnt have a chance in front of FPL tryharders issa is the only one who can peek and one tap the shit out of zywhoo somple and dovice
2021-02-23 21:35
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rating ? yeah NBK is doing actually good for the roles he has, swap roles between him and ISSAA let's see how ISSAA's gonna do
2021-02-23 21:36
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Morocco moroccaN
why
2021-02-23 21:39
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Croatia Mikylm
NBK does all of the dirty work for og
2021-02-23 21:46
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#44
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France Insidium
Yeah exactly that nbk is the glue of the team
2021-02-24 00:40
NGL if i played in oG and had to hear about issas ping issues every single match i would be fking pissed. Other teams and players are able to fly across the planet and bootcamp but this guy havent been able to leave his own country since covid started?
2021-02-23 21:25
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Visa issues due to the embassy of Jordan.
2021-02-24 00:55
its hard to get a visa at these circumstances
2021-02-24 15:11
reported for kjaerbye jk mantuu > oskar + nato + smooya + hallzerk though issaa and flusha dont play the same roles at all
2021-02-23 21:25
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ISSAA = extremity + rotation flusha = extremity + rotation :) looks the same to me oskar > smooya > mantuu > hallzerk > NaTo I was just giving examples
2021-02-23 21:27
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Brazil DirthShadow
+FER
2021-02-23 21:27
4 replies
he sucks in ISSAA's roles
2021-02-23 21:28
just make him entry like NBK, NBK takes ISSAA's T side roles and fer CT could fit
2021-02-23 21:28
I would like to see this happen. Fer was an absolute monster before, maybe he could still be in a good team.
2021-02-24 00:49
+1
2021-02-24 07:17
Nato KEKW (tier 2 player, much worse than mantu) Shakerbye KEKW (tier 2 player, barely averaged 0.97 in FaZe, despite lack of IGL etc) flusha KEKW (why would he even consider this team when he specifically left fnatic to IGL somewhere? do you want -awper (mantu) +flusha (IGL?) who awps then?
2021-02-23 21:31
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Kjaerbye can be good with Aleksib as IGL, NaTo was just an example, flusha got kicked, he didnt leave, where did I say -mantuu +flusha u fucking moron ?
2021-02-23 21:34
But OG is org with money.. They dont care if they wont win some tournaments so they prefer friendship and loyalty over benching players and that earns my respect atleast. Their dota team makes more money than whole cs go scene combined.
2021-02-23 21:32
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yeah they're gonna bench someone in 3 months but loyalty and friendship overall yeaaah ofc og has a lot of money cuz they don't have a csgo team for money but for friendship and loyalty the world is all rainbow now :p
2021-02-23 21:35
-issaa +oBo Keep the rest
2021-02-23 21:33
7 replies
yeah so oBo has a even higher ping than ISSAA LUL
2021-02-23 21:35
6 replies
Obo can move
2021-02-23 21:54
5 replies
no, that's basically why he left complexity
2021-02-23 23:31
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Lmaoo whats wrong with this guy :D He got so homesick he left a really good team because of it and now he thinks he's ready to move to EU? XD
2021-02-24 00:52
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idk I feel like there's a major difference between committing yourself for a long term europe stay, and being told that the time in europe would be temporary, and then just living in hotels and shit because the team doesn't want to go back to NA
2021-02-24 00:54
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he's still dumb af
2021-02-24 02:52
-agro +passive = disaster Mantuu is better than all the players you listed and smooya is the only one even close, he's also more proven currently than all of them
2021-02-23 21:34
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oskar > mantuu > smooya
2021-02-23 21:35
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maybe in 1998 rofl
2021-02-23 21:37
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oskar is way better than mantuu trust me
2021-02-23 21:37
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I have no reason to trust you when you think spirit win kato 3-1 over vp lmao
2021-02-23 21:40
"-mantuu +NaTo" lmao
2021-02-23 21:36
12 replies
replace him by oskar or smooya then
2021-02-23 21:37
11 replies
mantuu in 2020 - barely outside top 20, actually robbed oskar in 2020 - stuck in t2 smooya in 2020 - afk?
2021-02-23 21:41
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actually oskar was afk too
2021-02-23 21:43
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2021-02-23 21:46
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2020, in 2020 sinners were like 70th
2021-02-23 21:52
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yeah but right now oskar is doing pretty good, they've basically only been rising (I wouldn't trade him for mantuu tho, I agree that mantuu is good rn in OG)
2021-02-23 21:54
I just meant that to judge oskar we should probably look at his more recent performances
2021-02-23 21:55
Mantuu was not robbed lmao xD Even putting him in top 25 is higher than deserved.
2021-02-24 00:55
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8th best against top 20 in 2020 19th against top 30 His performance was better against top 5 opponents than it was against anyone else
2021-02-24 07:03
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definately better than the bottom 6 of last years hltv top 20
2021-02-24 07:04
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Just no. If you watched him play you'd know this useless statpadder is not even nearly there.
2021-02-24 10:42
oskar is doing good bringing recognition to his scene with sinners, and I feel like mantuu has a higher peak and consistency than smooya (but as you said you'd rather keep him and I agree with that) For ISSA's replacement flusha is out of the question as the suNny-flusha team seems to be happening after all, and also he wants to IGL. Guess we'll see if OG will make any change soon anyways, if they do it'll probably be around ISSA
2021-02-23 21:45
tldr: -overrated bot +overrated bot
2021-02-23 21:50
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
overrated bot > overrated bot
2021-02-24 01:03
Wasn't the biggest reason why jackz got benched in g2 the fact that he isn't that good in english?
2021-02-23 21:52
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I think amanek fits the roles better tho, that's probably the main reason
2021-02-23 21:56
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Italy ROMAG
Mantu Aleksibi Frozen RopZ Valde Ez
2021-02-23 22:22
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+1 but mouz would not let frozen to leave
2021-02-24 08:32
Kjaerbye? smooya? 0/8 bait
2021-02-24 00:48
#53
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Brazil Fauchard
-isa +bella
2021-02-24 01:04
#55
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Croatia lucubista
-issaa +michu our jackz
2021-02-24 02:54
Did Jackz say anything about his next move? Is he free agent?
2021-02-24 02:59
oskar and hallzerk are washed up and jackz has never been good, why would anyone want those? issaa kick thats obvious, you can upgrade him with literally anyone, you can easily upgrade awp as well but imo no need atm
2021-02-24 03:08
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>"oskar and hallzerk are washed up and jackz has never been good" >you can upgrade him with literally anyone fl brain
2021-02-24 07:05
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jackz is an upgrade to issaa, but why would you get jackz when there are million better players than jackz
2021-02-24 15:04
I rather have Jackz, but he needs to improve his English or he gonna get kicked
2021-02-24 03:16
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Turkey RENNNDER
I feel sorry for issaaa. I don't understand how issaa plays with 80-90 pings. Even woxic can't play with 60 pings. I'm not telling woxic is bad because everyone plays with max 20 - 50 pings. prnt.sc/105drh6
2021-02-24 07:14
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Brazil Kakaxu
-ISSAA +JACKZ -NBK +FER
2021-02-24 07:15
its hard cuz issaa is really good rifler but online fucks him up due to ~100 ping and fucks the whole team up, without issaa they would play in 20-30 ping servers, now they play around 50 and issaa around 100.
2021-02-24 07:30
#68
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Russia Syonamaru
2021-02-24 08:16
OG needs to kick ISSAA and replace him with an actual superstar player. Valde is their best performer and he is an amazing all-around player, but he shouldn't be the main star of a team. They need a guy who is a top 5 type player who can carry games and put up numbers. As for who, if I were to go for the realistic approach I would try and get a good NA player like Brezhe who is well established and has the experience, and can put up numbers when his team is playing good tactically and he is in form. If you want to go the European Route, then, you can pick up a player like ropz.
2021-02-24 08:25
I would say that mantuu is fine and that he should and will stay but -ISSAA + flusha could be cool If they would buy out like Bubskji that would be nice aswell
2021-02-24 08:26
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United States B0OMER
why would u kick the best player from the team lmao -issaa +michu
2021-02-24 08:41
Aleksib literally said they not gonna bench anyone...
2021-02-24 08:46
Add Michu
2021-02-24 15:05
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