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shox | 
France KropsDown 
"Anything he [ISSAA] tries to do, when it comes to internet issues, when it comes to a visa if we're thinking of having a bootcamp, is a problem, everything is super hard because of where he lives," Aleksib explained. "Usually, in our games, everybody has between 30-50 ping, while ISSAA has 80 or 90." "I know for a fact that ISSAA is like a 'glue' on LAN, he brings a lot of hype and he shoots better." -AleksiGod The reason's for the decline in the quality are clear: he's stuck in jordan due to visa problems, and his ping absolutely sucks when faced with 20-30 ping tier 1 competition. Hell I have a hard time at 100 ping vs faceit 5's
2021-02-24 06:04
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#1
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France PaulST
+1 He might not be the star of the team rn but when LANs come back he will be even better because he will be used to playing at a disadvantage
2021-02-24 06:06
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#3
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United States logantk
he is crippling a good team. he needs the bench
2021-02-24 06:06
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+1
2021-02-24 11:11
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#47
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World mbata
+2
2021-02-24 11:56
Still better stats than NBK with twice the ping
2021-02-24 11:58
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He also has better roles lol
2021-02-24 12:06
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Everyone always says that NBK takes all the bad roles but that's just not true at all. So often you see him anchor a site where he needs to get 1-2 kills and he gets nothing at all.
2021-02-24 12:14
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#57
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United States logantk
nbk is fragging though, ISSA is negative every game
2021-02-24 18:21
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Yeah nbk is fragging, funniest joke I have heard recently. nbk has consistently been the worst fragger on OG. One of the main reasons OG went to shit is that aleksi and mantuu also dropped off recently, when they used to carry NBK all day long
2021-02-24 19:20
#58
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United States logantk
Roles dont matter if your dog shit
2021-02-24 18:21
If being an anchor isnt a a bad role for you on ct (its literally the worst, everyone expects you to atleast trade one for one but if you dont, you get blamed) what is the worst role for you?
2021-02-25 09:17
that's something I think could be true as it could be the opposite. Emotions and confidence is an extremely important factor. If you watch some of his interviews he talks about self-confidence and how important it is to his games. Hopefully this slump doesnt mess thing up too much for him D;
2021-02-24 06:10
his rating in 2020 against top 5 is higher than valde's btw
2021-02-24 06:06
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yeah; and valde is generally considered to be a good/smart player. He's out of his element; ironically despite being home
2021-02-24 06:12
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Ok, he's DEFINITELY not considered to be a smart player.
2021-02-24 11:03
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yes he is
2021-02-24 11:05
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His ex HELLRAISER teammate said that Issa “is not the brightest mind.”. Also Thorin said that Issa gives bad ideas in TS. And if you watch him play, you can see how many braindead decisions he makes. Same goes to NBK and Mantuu.
2021-02-24 11:19
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he talked about valde
2021-02-24 11:23
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yeah lol i was talking about valde
2021-02-24 11:24
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Lmao my apologies
2021-02-24 12:14
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np king
2021-02-25 05:40
are you sure about nbk? I don't exactly love him but he's been around for ages and is the most decorated french player of all time. Surely he'd have something of a brain seeing as he helped form manttuu to tier 1 cs/coaches the teach on occasion
2021-02-24 11:23
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Sure, his general understanding of the game is good, but he does so many stupid individual decisions in-game. Overpeeking (does not realize when to fall back), bad positioning in clutch situations, wastes bullets etc.
2021-02-24 12:25
He is bruh wtf
2021-02-25 06:33
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Slovakia VERGiLx
LANS are coming at fall at best, probably winter, he is bad right now, OG is paying lot of money for nothing in return
2021-02-24 06:07
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until then one potential solution could be a temp bench, keeping him involved and in the team's structure to keep him war ie scrim and plan with him as part of the occasion. Bring in a stand-in who understands it's temporary and motivate him with either good pay/prof opportunities after. Yes I am OG new manager
2021-02-24 06:14
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Slovakia VERGiLx
I think replacing him is better in every way, but i hate OG so im glad they are playing like shit
2021-02-24 06:25
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why hate og lol
2021-02-24 06:26
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Slovakia VERGiLx
They are extreme trash, i literally get angry watching them how stupid they play. also NBK is cunt and bot.
2021-02-24 06:27
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why all the hate bro, NBK is two time major winner, and the most decorated french player ever. He might have subpar ratings rn but he's basically the team dad. Watched the interview aleksib had with thorin a while ago and he's important to the team
2021-02-24 06:40
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Wouldn't waste time on an angry bettor. Who hates a team just because they play bad :D + He's clearly a noob bettor if he thought that betting on OG was a good idea in the first place.
2021-02-24 11:08
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Finland Veeti777
Best solution for OG would be to try 6 mens roster.
2021-02-24 06:08
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Aleksib confirmed OG aren't too interested rn; check the news tab to read the full article
2021-02-24 06:15
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Finland Veeti777
He said they are having talks about it.
2021-02-24 06:16
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"We haven't thought about it too much," Aleksib said on the possibility of adding a sixth player. vague corporate talk for "we dont wanna"
2021-02-24 06:25
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Finland Veeti777
He said they are talking about it in hltv podcast
2021-02-24 07:01
+1
2021-02-24 06:16
just have aleksi smuggle issa out in his private saunacopter
2021-02-24 06:41
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that's a plan fr
2021-02-24 09:17
The "woxic" case.
2021-02-24 09:24
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except woxic is able to leave turkey whenever he wants but he WANTS to stay there, while ISSA is FORCED to stay in Jordan
2021-02-24 11:30
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yeup
2021-02-25 05:46
Forced? You mean, like me in Turkmenistan?
2021-02-26 09:25
#21
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Germany NitczkaCS
Issa is a good player in my opinion. Maybe he can move to Serbia like coldzera or Ukraine. I think he was living in Ukraine while playing for HR or? OG should also be able to help about this
2021-02-24 10:39
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why such a specifics examples, he can literally move to any european country
2021-02-24 11:30
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Germany NitczkaCS
Because it is easier to get residency unlike other European countries you cannot just move to any country unless you already live in EU
2021-02-24 11:33
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uh, thanks for info didnt know
2021-02-24 11:34
yeah but jordan literally won't let him leave
2021-02-25 05:47
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Germany NitczkaCS
Yes I was not aware until reading the article I think once the corona restrictions will be eased then he can travel
2021-02-25 08:55
+11111111111111 idk how someone can hate someone like issaa he seems like a g
2021-02-24 11:05
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aren't you the one who said that issaa needed to go? fake fan :(
2021-02-24 11:05
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I never said that lmao I want issaa to stay he is on my flair mate lol
2021-02-24 11:09
Doesn't mean he hates him tho🧐
2021-02-24 11:10
al Wahsh almashriq! (beast from de eaaaaast)
2021-02-25 05:49
+1000000000 ISSAAGOD
2021-02-24 11:05
I think the biggest issue with ISSAA is his bad comms and lack of gamesense. He also does not understand that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed and keeps trying to make plays and play roles that require too much game IQ. There are some insane entryfraggers who KNOW they are not that great with gamesense and they just shut up and execute the calls of the IGL and they are very good in their roles. ISSAAs personality isnt like this so he probably does not fit in the team. I don't hate ISSAA as a player or a person but I don't think OG is the right place for him since he is dragging everybody else down. Aleksib is a good professional and gives good PR statements but I'm sure he has the IQ to do what needs to be done eventually. He was already saying things between the lines you could read as understanding EXACTLY what the problem is with OG but he cannot explicitly say it because of his position, which is totally understandable.
2021-02-24 11:10
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+1 he needs to stfu
2021-02-24 11:13
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But he has been told of this by both aleksib and ruggah and he keeps doing it so at this point its just how he is and he cannot change.
2021-02-24 11:14
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Yeah just kick him then
2021-02-24 11:46
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Europe X1gma
Aleksib is a very nice guy and of course he is not going to shit talk his teammate when the whole community is shit talking ISSAA. But the truth is OG needs some changes and a new spark of Motivation. Aleksib Does not want to kick player because of the thing they cannot control but its been 1 year and its time to do some changes and even Aleksib know it that why they say that they are having "Talks".
2021-02-24 11:19
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I'm a bit concerned if he's actually delusional and doesn’t understand that they need to make changes.
2021-02-24 11:22
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Europe X1gma
I hope not. I just wish Ropz contact expires or sergej returns from military and OG atleast grab one of them.
2021-02-24 11:31
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Pakistan LoOuU2
I like ISSA , i like the whole OG and i really like the fact that they dont wanna boot him before LANs or a bootcamp atleast cause ISSA surely would be better in a closed environment. However , even though the fact that ISSA is rated higher than Valde and Mantu this year so far (both being the stars) , his ping problem really is putting OG at a disadvantage and holding them back. Yes with the fact that its not just ISSA but rather all the OG players struggle individually from time to time but ISSA`s problems make him the most liable. The best way they can work this out is to get a 6th man for some time being in EU. OG`s filthy rich , they can get anyone. Do a bootcamp with that individual and try to integrate him in the system because i honestly agree with Aleksi`s notion that mostly OG struggle cause of their inability to click heads. Its not more of a strat problem
2021-02-24 11:31
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+1
2021-02-25 05:52
Also people make it sound like valde and mantuu are some god tier players while issaa is just playing like a silver.... Valde literally falls flat in terms of performance everytime OG get past groups while mantuu cant seem to hit anything at all in dust WITH AN AWP. All this while ISSAA is an anchor rofl. Not gonna act like hes an amazing anchor, but dont go talking about his stats when he has the least fragging positions from those 3. He anchors A inferno, A mirage, A Nuke and sometimes B dust. Also he has highest stats from his teammates thus far this year. Alot of people refer to him missing a flash vs vitality causing them to lose the round but they dont mention that he was carrying that game and also literally said sorry immediately. IF issaa becomes consistent he is definitly, easily best player on this team as a fragger. He can secondary awp (literally last 3 times OG played dust he awped better than mantuu) and his rifle skills = valde's rifle skills. His only downfall is the game sense which is by no means minor. IF communication is as bad as thorin said, WHICH FIRST: ISSAA's english isnt as bad as thorin said wtf? he definitly overblew that part. but no excuses can ever be made no matter what for not usefull intel, never the less thats better than no intel at all such as what mantuu apparently does. Im not fanboying before anyone says tho. I AM an issaa fan but its just unfair that all the blame is on him while everyone acts like valde and mantuu are 2 gods like s1mple and electronic. no they are both not some crazy players either, they are just less inconsistent/more consistent than issaa.
2021-02-24 11:57
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massive props for very relevant points made critically. I agree with the vast majority of those points. Plus that bit about issa's english being weak is utter rubbish. He might have an accent but his english is just fine. It's very used in jordan and is the secondary academic language in a country that prizes academics, even as someone who plays games for a living lmfao
2021-02-25 06:07
+1 well said
2021-02-25 09:03
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Israel GrandpaZ
People who constantly play on low ping will never understand it. Playing with 80ish ping vs people with 20-30 is a HUGE disadvantage. Only ones who experienced it will understand. Basically every face to face aim duel starts with a disadvantage, an uber crippling thing vs high level players. I fucking admire issaa for reaching those levels facing EU opponents with this ping. He will most likely destroy on LAN.
2021-02-24 12:04
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I know your pain lol; dont have MESL so I play on sea servers for faceit. 100-90 ping is so fucking bad vs faceit 5-6. Imagine tier 1 competition?
2021-02-25 06:08
he has destroyed on lan; 1.15 rating
2021-02-25 06:09
just kick him like they kick sumail
2021-02-24 12:15
i dont think issa has any haters, they've been playing online for a year and his ping has always been known to be the problem, it seems pretty logical to atleast bench him untill he can be useful again instead of keeping him playing just to hold them back nobody calls him trash or anything i dont think people hate on him its just the situation
2021-02-24 12:18
WillBuildTheMosqueOfISSAGot10
2021-02-25 06:25
Okay so are we expected to wait potentially over a year more just so issaa gets his rating up by 0.08 or just replace him ropz whos better everywhere?
2021-02-25 06:38
The excuse holds if they were just five friends playing mm.These guys are playing at the professional level,even though the ping difference is reasonable, it's not reason enough to keep at it for so many months.woxic got benched for the same reason i believe.It's not logical enough for orgs to keep the weak link for couple more months when there's career made and done in that time.
2021-02-25 06:42
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