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Thorin 5head
France mejunk 
Well said: twitter.com/Thorin/status/13642820262040.. There is a reason why he is one of the most respected analysists
2021-02-24 14:49
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#1
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Australia B_Tannen
ZywOo is very lucky indeed.
2021-02-24 14:51
8 replies
+1 but people should be happy about it too. We can see how a prodigy can develop in a good environment from the start, maybe he can exceed s1mple in a few years.
2021-02-24 15:07
7 replies
He already exceeded s2mple 2 years in a row.
2021-02-25 01:17
1 reply
did you even read the tweet?
2021-02-25 18:52
Wow. Im not the only fan of curry here?? ;D ;D
2021-02-25 21:08
4 replies
u a t1 fan now?
2021-02-25 21:38
1 reply
Actually yes, but also Astralis for sure
2021-02-25 22:19
#190
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Sri Lanka w7tv
curry, tacos, guacamole, all good food
2021-02-26 03:40
Good to see a fellow curry fan :D
2021-02-26 17:45
did he just say apEX rPk shox nivera and misutaaa are better than perfecto electronic b1t boombla ?
2021-02-24 14:51
72 replies
zeus+ edward. flamie shitting himself constantly
2021-02-24 14:52
20 replies
this also maybe liquid 2016 since he was playing in a completely different region in a language he barely knew
2021-02-24 16:06
18 replies
TL was a good roster but elige couldnt handle s1mple malding. He probably regrets having s1mple removed. They also had a choking habit, but I mean the pieces were there and coaching rule was still in a year from now. Their coach during columbus (GBJames I think) as their caller btw so it was just fragging out from the squad. what his Thorin interview actually says a lot about that team and the importance of Adren and how much he had to micromanage players.
2021-02-24 16:24
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#88
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United States poL_aris
elige alpha male confirmed. he can't stand toxic players
2021-02-25 01:10
they won the grand slam without s1mple and had the only roster that was a stable top 1 since astralis domination i think elige is fine w it but yeah 2016 liquid w s1mple reminds me a lot of the s1mple 2016 navi, it was just firepower from s1mple, elige, nitr0 and hiko
2021-02-25 01:13
9 replies
TL had 1 almost era (tbh I do think it was an era its just that a lot of people put big stock into majors which tbf they arent completely wrong with as TL CHOKED HARD. BUT there shouldnt have been a player break anyways). With s1mple they would have probably had an era rather than just constant choking against AST (and even snax mouz xaxaxa).
2021-02-25 01:15
8 replies
s1mple is a bigger choker than elige and twistzz imo, navi lost a major final off him choking even tho electronic was on fire. it wouldnt have solved tl's issues in 2018-2019 at all. perhaps in 2020 s1mples awping wouldve helped tl immensely but tl's issues are all mental roadblocks if anything b4 2020, s1mple choked hard against astralis. like really badly. but tbf, online era definitely exasperated the need of a world class awper. its harder to play vs awp online compared to lan bc of ping
2021-02-25 01:19
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I disagree with your take there. in 2018 s1mple was just the best but NaVi was hurt because edward and zeus were mailing it in (this is fact stated by edward with an hltv interview a few months ago). If I remember correctly as well s1mple was just completely avoided by Astralis during many of their big games. That is why AST was so good against NaVi they just avoided s1mple and took fights with the rest of the team. If you disagree with my point here I can also say that the whole navi team played like shit. No one was going to beat the GOAT lineup with edward and zeus going under .9 rating. All while flamie playing like shit. s1mple did play like shit I agree but they got stomped so bad I dont think him getting a 1.3 rating would have mad a difference.
2021-02-25 01:24
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i agree with that astralis always avoided s1mple at all costs, but i think cologne 2018 really showed us what navi was capable of, when they beat astralis. if s1mple and electronic were both on fire and 1 player pulled his weight (flamie usually did back then), theres no team in the world that could stop them, even astralis couldnt. edward and zeus definitely bought lots of consistency issues, but flamie was def not to blame at majors, which is where navi struggled the most imo. he avged a 1.09 rating in 2018, with his best peaks at majors as for s1mple, he choked in major finals even back in his time during tl. vs sk at cologne, he was their lowest rated player. if he showed up and had impact like we know he could have (liquid vs lg at the last major), liquid couldve at least put up a fight rather than losing 32-13 and took a map i think your take is good, s1mple on any team would overall improve them for sure, but liquids issues back then was never firepower or roles, it was mentality which s1mple would not have helped with at all. thats also why nitr0 and stewie were so important, nitr0 was the bro guy that was friends with everyone, and stew is one of those players that always shows up when it mattered most and hyped them up, which helped a lot at big lans
2021-02-25 01:33
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Cologne 2018 is an enigma imo (i hope thats the right word). It feels like it is NaVi's potential, but clearly .97 average for both zeus and edward with what has come out now about their dedication would have not been repeated. Also 2 16-13s fucking hell it took zeus having an all time great game to win. Yeah I agree with your last paragraph it felt like back then NA had a shit mentality and it took a team full of no egos and 1 hypeman (stew) for NA to have a real great team. With TL v SK they wouldnt have won that even if s1mple was insane. SK was just too strong at that point imo no one could have stopped them. Also, s1mple was just a stand in at that point of his TL career.
2021-02-25 13:45
2 replies
Honestly, huge props to you too for having a genuine discourse on this. Came to a genuinely good conclusion at the end. Respect for respecting each other
2021-02-25 16:14
1 reply
Yes mens it was very nice. Have a good (idk your timezone) :).
2021-02-25 21:05
The reason liquid never had an era was that they were number 1 for too short a time.
2021-02-25 18:51
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2021-02-25 21:06
i bet if they win that major no problems just like niko in faze if he just win that major everything just poof
2021-02-25 08:53
4 replies
yeah major would mean a lot because specifically karrigan isnt the best man manager with big egos. That felt like it was TL's major to lose looking back then (Columbus) and it would mean s1mple wouldnt have left. NaVi was pure shit with guardian having issues with his wrist.
2021-02-25 13:39
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it was destined for him to join navi but depending on the time period it would change history FOREVER i want to make an imaginary timeline if TL wins columbus or maybe navi win it it will stretch till eleague major boston cus if i go all the way to london that would be wayy to head hurting see me on the new topics page in a week or so
2021-02-25 19:11
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"see me on the new topics page in a week or so" You going to write a book about this there :P. If I see you I'll make sure to comment and read it.
2021-02-25 21:06
1 reply
more like a 500 word essey
2021-02-26 07:48
true in the Astralis Era of the 3 in a row Majors by far the most stable team apart from that was Liquid who actually had alot of Success between Katowice 2019 and Berlin 2019
2021-02-26 07:56
and dont forget 2016 Hiko and Jdm ....
2021-02-26 07:54
#4
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Czech Republic Ondron
no... he refers to the old lineups he played in I suppose
2021-02-24 14:53
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#18
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Australia B_Tannen
In part it’s today’s NaVi as well.
2021-02-24 14:55
32 replies
jeez when thorin says #fanlogic he refers to people like you
2021-02-24 15:03
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#34
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Australia B_Tannen
What are you reasoning here? s1mple is going to be outstanding regardless of the lineup. Look at stats from teams he’s played in. Huge disparities.
2021-02-24 15:06
30 replies
And do you really think ZyWoo won't be outstanding regardless of the lineup? Btw he definitely means lineups like Flipsid3, Worst Players, HR etc.
2021-02-24 15:38
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#63
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Australia B_Tannen
Of course he will be outstanding, ZywOo is amazing and neither Thorin nor I deny that. But reality is, s1mple had a much harder road than ZywOo. I mentioned that in my other comments, but elements of NaVi were carries too.
2021-02-24 15:40
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Yes definitely s1mple had harder road but you know its just because of the fact when s1mple started to play and was already PRO I think there was still no FPL and surely nobody was picking up players to teams from FPL. And of course the fact just few players were OK with playing with s1mple in the team at the beginning because of his manners.
2021-02-24 15:43
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#67
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Australia B_Tannen
Yeah it’s not ZywOo’s fault. Just different time periods of CSGO.
2021-02-24 15:45
Zywoo literally got noticed when he single handedly carried dogshit french tier 10 team lmao... Idk why Thorin is acting like he's never played on a flawed lineup lmfao. Dude was playing on the most shit lineup with awful french players and single handedly carried those teams against tier 3/4.
2021-02-25 01:10
25 replies
and lets be honest, zywoo doesnt have a better lineup than navi right now or team liquid. s1mple had really good line-ups.
2021-02-25 04:39
16 replies
Ye I really hope no one is saying that Vitalitys roster is better than Na'Vi's lmao. Rpk Shox Apex Misutaa vs electronic boombl4 perfecto flamie na'vis roster is a lot better
2021-02-25 04:42
15 replies
people really underrates boombl4 and flamie. boombl4 all time stats are top tier for an igl, flamie is responsible for solid navi maps - d2 and nuke.
2021-02-25 04:45
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#114
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Australia B_Tannen
They’re underrated, but Vitality is definitely better for ZywOo than NaVi is for s1mple.
2021-02-25 06:27
2 replies
lol no boombl4 > apex as igl and he's really good as playmaker flamie > rpk most of the times electronic and s1mple better than everyone if u exclude zywoo
2021-02-25 15:55
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#143
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Australia B_Tannen
By what measure? I think they can become better as a team but Vitality is more supportive atm.
2021-02-25 16:02
#112
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Australia B_Tannen
Vitality is far better for ZywOo than NaVi is for s1mple. The experience on Vitality is one thing, but now you’ve got nivera and shox finding form again. While electronic helps out, s1mple has a largely inexperienced roster and most of which is usually absent frag wise.
2021-02-25 06:26
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You have no idea what you're talking about lol... Nivera is hardly ever playing. The few Times he played he averaged 0.93 rating. Shox "form" is barely 1 rating... All Na'Vi players except flamie has better. And then you consider the fact that Na'Vi has a top 5 world player on top of that, AND they also have probably the best fragging IGL right now... And anyone who is above silver would realize that it's not even a question. Na'Vi's roster is on another level compared to Vitality's. Na'Vis roster would Still be strong WITHOUT s1mple. Vitality's roster would be literally dogshit without zywoo. Who would be getting the frags?
2021-02-25 09:08
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#127
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Australia B_Tannen
Maybe once they’re more experienced. But Vitality has real experience of major winners and the resources to go with it. Check your stats. Nivera had 1.1 VS top 5 last year and 1.18 against top 10 across more maps. Across a larger sample size shox and apEX are 1.00 or slightly above that. Meanwhile boombl4, flamie and perfecto averaged below 1.0 last year. Obviously stats mean a lot to you, but past that the experience from Vitality is worth heaps. Also you can’t prove NaVi would be even a shadow of current form without s1mple.
2021-02-25 09:33
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Stats don't even matter a lot to me, but that's literally the only thing Thorin uses to decide if a player is good or bad so I figured you would appreciate more IF i took Up stats. Idk where you're getting your stats from mate... Nivera had 1.00 vs top 5 (small sample), 1.02 vs top 10 and 20. Shox 0.99 / 1.01 vs top 5/top 10. Apex 0.96/0.96 vs top 5/top 10. And you brought up "shox form" before... What about Boombl4 form? That form is waaay better than "shox form". Boombl4 is Fragging absolutely insanely well for an IGL and entry. The only player on Na'Vi that I think is worse than any Vitality player beside Zywoo right now is probably flamie. I think shox is better than flamie. As I Said, it's rlly obvious that Na'Vi has a better roster than Vitality.
2021-02-25 09:57
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#132
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Australia B_Tannen
Watch Thorin’s content before making uniformed posts.
2021-02-25 12:43
its funny how ppl look at stats and say flamie is the worst player while he's a player really important for those top 2 maps of navi - d2 and nuke
2021-02-25 15:57
5 replies
I mean maybe he has an important role, but we are not talking about that... We are talking about individual skill.
2021-02-25 16:47
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hold nuke’s and d2 b bomb individually is an individual skills and this type of skill affects team’s tactics. its just a skill that wont show im stats
2021-02-25 16:50
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Not really, that's just called playing anchor and of course I am not comparing him to rotation players... Even if you compare him to other anchors from other teams, he's lower skilled than a lot of them. Not saying they should kick him, but he is definitely individually their lowest skill player right now.
2021-02-25 17:09
2 replies
you can say he's mechanically-wise low skilled, but he is a top tier anchor and the best on nuke by far
2021-02-25 17:38
1 reply
I haven't seen their r nuke a lot but His D2 anchoring seemed pretty average to me if not bad compared to B anchors from other top teams
2021-02-25 17:40
#110
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Australia B_Tannen
But his entry to pro tier was much easier than s1mple’s. ZywOo went straight into Vitality as a big team while s1mple grinded HR, flip and Liquid before getting his big break. That isn’t ZywOo’s fault, just different time periods in the game.
2021-02-25 06:24
7 replies
you are wrong. zywoo was playing at tier 99 french cs for two years, but he was carrying so hard (even on fpl) that he went to vitality. s1mple's liquid had better team than vitality too. its funny how no one would argue navi roster was better than vitality in 2018
2021-02-25 16:01
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#153
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Australia B_Tannen
s1mple had a much harder road to his big break. He had to carry HR and flip at top tier before joining NaVi. Btw liquid is hardly relevant, three ish month stint and they sucked apart from Columbus run. Meanwhile, sure ZywOo played tier 99, but then he instantly joins Vitality after that. No other tier 1 teams to carry, just straight in. I can assure you that carrying tier 1 is harder.
2021-02-25 17:12
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s1mple bad teams til liquid -> 2 years zywoo bad teams til vitality -> 2 years vitality wasnt a team since zywoo join. no one thought vitality could be as good as it was. misutaaa was known as the 0 kills debut, rpk was called by gaules ruim pra caralho (bad af) liquid had nitr0, elige, s1mple and hiko. how can you say its a bad team? for me its funny how s1mple fans just want him to get infinite resources as a team to show all his skills and how he's the best, but he already has top tier team. literally, navi has 2 top 5 players and a top 3 igl rn with the best stats between those top tier igls.
2021-02-25 17:51
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#187
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Australia B_Tannen
s1mple carrying tier 1 is harder than ZywOo carrying tier 99.
2021-02-26 03:02
3 replies
and zywoo carrying tier 1 is harder than s1mple carrying tier 1
2021-02-26 03:29
2 replies
#189
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Australia B_Tannen
Vitality currently is a far more complete roster than NaVi. Players on NaVi can completely throw while s1mple drops 40 on a map, at least the Vitality players support if they’re not shooting people. Not to mention how much resources Vitality has.
2021-02-26 03:41
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1- navi is richer than vitality 2- navi has 2 top 5 players, vitality has a top 1 and no top 20 players 3- navi has the best igl stat-wise in top tier 4- if you do the average of 2020 stats (exclude s1mple and zywoo), both teams has kinda same stats.
2021-02-26 04:01
#5
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United States PP_Bizon
"s1mple played in during his career." I highly doubt he means the current lineup, but the previous lineups, with edward & zeus most likely. I'm also assuming 2017 navi is also being referenced here.
2021-02-24 14:53
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#10
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Australia B_Tannen
More like HR, Flipsid3 and liquid.
2021-02-24 14:54
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#16
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United States PP_Bizon
That as well, I forgot about all the previous lineups before navi.
2021-02-24 14:55
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#20
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Australia B_Tannen
Current NaVi is definitely part of it too.
2021-02-24 14:55
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#65
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United States Goob
current navi is fine though? flamie underperforms sometimes but overall the team look really good
2021-02-24 15:43
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#70
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Australia B_Tannen
Indeed it’s not a problem. Teams should focus on their stars like s1mple or ZywOo. Just was pointing out the carry extends into NaVi time period as well.
2021-02-24 15:49
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#71
ropz | 
United States Goob
ok so having your whole system function around giving your star player anything he needs to succeed will of course help someone succeed, i think simple’s carry is less true because he isn’t always letting loose blinder performances, just pretty great ones
2021-02-24 15:51
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#74
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Australia B_Tannen
s1mple definitely carries less now than he used to. But naturally it’s still there.
2021-02-24 15:55
it could be, but its not whats being talked about here at all
2021-02-25 01:24
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#109
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Australia B_Tannen
Thorin was talking about teams s1mple has to carry. By s1mple’s insane talent, naturally he carries NaVi sometimes.
2021-02-25 06:21
that liquid team wasnt half bad considering they made it to semis and finals in majors... outside the choke in that final its still a respectable result :()
2021-02-24 15:59
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#87
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Australia B_Tannen
Liquid was definitely more rounded than HR and flip. But naturally, s1mple will carry teams being the player he is.
2021-02-25 01:08
#6
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Australia B_Tannen
and flamie
2021-02-24 14:53
#8
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Denmark orwelles
not in this instance, but he has said that before
2021-02-24 14:54
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#59
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Spain N0Love
And he's not wrong but that wasn't his point here it was more about Edward, seized and Zeus
2021-02-24 15:31
no hes saying its better than dysfunctional flipside and retarded early navi
2021-02-25 08:39
We need to cut somebody internet here
2021-02-25 12:46
#7
s1mple | 
Russia UM4R
much respect to thorin
2021-02-24 14:53
biggest zywoo hater
2021-02-24 14:54
12 replies
or biggest s0mple fanboi
2021-02-24 14:54
11 replies
#19
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Argentina Joedash
I'm pretty sure he's both, sucking simple's peepee
2021-02-24 14:55
9 replies
#30
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United States breasts
yeh cuz s1mple hasn't called him trash yet afaik unlike niko and device
2021-02-24 15:02
8 replies
#44
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Argentina Joedash
Just wait, I just want Zywoo to get top 1 again to see how Thorin cries again in twitter and says something like "top 1 shouldn't be based on both individual and team's achievements. Even if so, simple deserves it". Almost like last year.
2021-02-24 15:15
7 replies
even if zywoo get better stats as he did last year lmao
2021-02-25 16:03
6 replies
Yeh, the guy is just too delusional already, and keeps crying on twitter smh.
2021-02-25 21:26
5 replies
Thorin is a little girl, who wants attention. He tweets anything and disrespects players who are the main reason why he has a job. He is just 40 yr old retarted person with no real life and friends. On the other hand, Richard Lewis has similar kind of job but he conducts himself very well. Thorin is the eSports Moron
2021-02-26 09:00
4 replies
The guy is so cringe some times. I just don't understand how people defend/support his tweets at this point.
2021-02-26 15:06
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mostly s1mple fan bois and other brain dead twitter users.
2021-02-26 15:25
2 replies
Luckily, s1mple choked in the last round and na'vi lost map 1 LUL
2021-02-26 16:06
1 reply
f, tbh i love s1mple but i hate when a professional personality makes someone god like figure, thorin is someone who will suck s1mple's d**k if s1mple asks him.
2021-02-26 16:22
#47
s1mple | 
Russia UM4R
shedap brazil men idiot
2021-02-24 15:20
ok
2021-02-24 14:54
3Head
2021-02-24 14:54
#14
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Argentina Joedash
Imagine hoping that Zywoo ruins his career, but at the same time not hoping for it.
2021-02-24 14:54
11 replies
reading comprehension
2021-02-24 15:04
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#40
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Argentina Joedash
Okay. He wants Zywoo's career to get ruined only to show his fans that Zywoo isn't better than s1mple but then says that he hopes Zywoo doesn't get his career ruined.
2021-02-24 15:11
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#66
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United States Goob
you think the #1 player for 2 years in a row will have his career ruined by playing for a worse team?
2021-02-24 15:44
4 replies
The fact that it will never happen makes me tell you that no. I didnt think so, Thorin did by "hoping so". S1mple was an unknown person back in those teams and neither he played like he does nowadays. edit: He would have given up. And Thorin with his IQ lever doesnt realize that zywoo surely played in unknown french teams or PUBs groups before being in Vitality, there's a reason why they saw future in the boy.
2021-02-25 21:25
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#185
ropz | 
United States Goob
i’m pretty certain thorin would know more about that than some random hltv noob so i’m going to discount your edit, also thorin only ‘hopes’ zywoo has to play with a team that is just cashing in paychecks so that fans will realize that the road to the top was paved easier for zywoo than it was for simple
2021-02-25 22:01
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That ain't Zywoo's problems. If S1mple decided to waste his time in bad teams it was his decision to make, which doesn't mean that Zywoo's was easier. It is better if Thorin stopped sucking simple's dick everytime something related to zywoo happens or because their fans think Zywoo is better than simple(they aren't too wrong neither).
2021-02-26 15:05
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#218
ropz | 
United States Goob
... not really your decision to choose what team you want
2021-02-26 17:53
404 IQ not found
2021-02-25 12:47
3 replies
Fan of C9
2021-02-25 21:25
2 replies
you've just made the stupidest comment ive seen all week
2021-02-25 21:27
1 reply
Then gratz my boy, you are a bounty hunter and delusional.
2021-02-25 21:28
Very highly respected analyst across the whole csgo community
2021-02-24 14:55
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#68
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Sarcasm?
2021-02-24 15:47
4 replies
yeah, the community doesn't seem to like him very much
2021-02-24 16:00
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#78
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
His YouTube content isn't that bad but his social media antics paint him out to be extremely unlikeable, which he most definitely can be as proven on many occasions. For me, I enjoy his YouTube content and I respect the knowledge he has about the game but otherwise, I ignore the Twitter baits and social media antics.
2021-02-24 16:04
2 replies
yeah kinda same for me
2021-02-24 16:06
+1 I rlly hate him when it comes to twitter, he says hella lot tof bs yet i know his videos are good ones.
2021-02-25 21:29
#17
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United States drac0z
srsly wtf does thorin have against zywoo? he's acting like a typical navi flair on hltv
2021-02-24 14:55
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#22
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Australia B_Tannen
Like anybody who believes any player is the best individually, he’s reasoning.
2021-02-24 14:56
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#26
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Argentina Joedash
Thorin have been hating on Zywoo since his very existence in the cs scene, the guy is talented and has great future, but butthurt stupid ass people like Thorin could easily ruin it to him.
2021-02-24 14:58
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#27
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Australia B_Tannen
He doesn’t hate ZywOo. Why isn’t Thorin allowed to think s1mple is the best, and reason his point, without people saying he hates ZywOo?
2021-02-24 15:00
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#29
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Argentina Joedash
Bcz #28 . He's already shown that he isn't gonna support Zywoo whatsoever while he has been sucking simple's peepee for years now. He does hate* Zywoo btw, and this tweet shows a lot that hate. Pdt: He's a human being, and therefore he has flaws. This time he has hella lot of flaws, one of them being biased as fuck with NaVi and S1mple more specifically, he hates on Astralis and also on Dev1ce for little to no real reason aside of Astralis's managements. And it seems it's not enough because now he is going for Zywoo saying stuff like "I hope but I don't Hope".
2021-02-24 15:05
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#45
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Australia B_Tannen
Thorin doesn’t hate ZywOo, there is a difference between reasoning for s1mple being better in his opinion and hate. Thorin had a Twitter conflict with device and Astralis is a ridiculous snake org so that beef is well founded. You misunderstand Thorin.
2021-02-24 15:17
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#52
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Argentina Joedash
Even if Astralis is a snake org and Device defended the org. Based on Thorin's logic device deserves the insults he gets by Thorin bcz of defending the org, nice. "Thorin doesn’t hate ZywOo, there is a difference between reasoning for s1mple being better in his opinion and hate" This twit shows his hate towards Zywoo and his fanatism towards simple. Since the beginning of this year he's said something about s1mple. And now wishing Zywoo to have his career ruined just to "show" his fans that he isn't better than s1mple. Is he a kid? His tweets are full of shit man, admit it yourself and don't be delusional, every tweet he does is stupid, his videos aren't bad but his tweets are like a 10 yo kiddo angry bcz he doesn't have what he wants.
2021-02-24 15:23
1 reply
> And now wishing Zywoo to have his career ruined just to "show" his fans that he isn't better than s1mple Are you ok? He literally said "For ZywOo's own sake I hope he never has to, though" in his tweet.
2021-02-24 15:53
#52
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Argentina Joedash
Even if Astralis is a snake org and Device defended the org. Based on Thorin's logic device deserves the insults he gets by Thorin bcz of defending the org, nice. "Thorin doesn’t hate ZywOo, there is a difference between reasoning for s1mple being better in his opinion and hate" This twit shows his hate towards Zywoo and his fanatism towards simple. Since the beginning of this year he's said something about Zywoo*. And now wishing Zywoo to have his career ruined just to "show" his fans that he isn't better than s1mple. Is he a kid? His tweets are full of shit man, admit it yourself and don't be delusional, every tweet he does is stupid, his videos aren't bad but his tweets are like a 10 yo kiddo angry bcz he doesn't have what he wants.
2021-02-24 15:25
#48
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Russia UM4R
can you piss off Argentinian pig. thanks
2021-02-24 15:21
3 replies
#55
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Argentina Joedash
I'm not delusional like you, so you should piss off instead of writing to me.
2021-02-24 15:24
2 replies
When you see navi flair just assume iq is below 95 (being generous)
2021-02-25 01:28
1 reply
Yeh, it rlly is stupid af. I stopped talking with both people I discussed since they are close minded and Thorin fangays it seems.
2021-02-25 02:53
#73
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Romania Xyst
I used to watch thorin video (until i saw what a big ashole he is on Twitter), his main argument on why is s1mple is better is the eye test. And to be fair s1mple looks more skilled than zywoo but it could be his high sens.
2021-02-24 15:52
1 reply
Me too. Although I stopped when he started non-stop insulting NiKo and making 2 videos in one specifically saying "NiKo, you are the problem m8" which I agreed with, and after NiKo left the team he said " Why you left the team? You coward" xD. I mean, the guy is full of controversy and I always see the tweets he does and are shitty af(although his videos of LoL and so on are good ones as far as I know).
2021-02-25 02:55
#23
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Argentina Joedash
Idk, but he has already said things against Zywoo once. Guy's a retarded butthurt that believes Zywoo didn't deserve the top 1 and that he still doesn't deserve it.
2021-02-24 14:57
It seems like he has soemthing against fans acting like zywoo is miles ahead of s1mple, but hey not everyone can understand english right?
2021-02-24 14:57
6 replies
#28
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Argentina Joedash
It's not fully like that. He hopes Zywoo gets it's career ruined just bcz of his fans, while simple fans are as toxic as Zywoo fans are(there's a reason why both fanbase are hated). But Thorin has already referred directly to Zywoo because Thorin believed Zywoo is undeserved top 1.
2021-02-24 15:00
5 replies
Bruh he said that he would like zywoo to play in a team so the fans would see what he means, he does not actually wish for it to happen and even said it himself that he does not wish it to zywoo. I mean think of thorin what u want but its stupid to turn arround the meaning of the words someone said so u have a point against someo e
2021-02-24 15:03
4 replies
#38
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Argentina Joedash
He literally said: " I hope he goes to a team where he gets ruined so that his fans know he is trash/not as good as s1mple " and then said "I hope he doesn't go to a team to ruin his career". 1. Thorin is being biased whether he hates the Zywoo fanbase, bcz S1mple fanbase is way worse and he never said this about s1mple while also being known that he sucks simple's peepee. 2. If he didn't wish for him to get his career ruined, then he shouldnt even tweet this shit, the guy is a complete retard who wants someone's career to get ruined only to show his fanbase that simple is better which seems pretty stupid
2021-02-24 15:09
3 replies
Learn english
2021-02-24 15:11
2 replies
#42
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Argentina Joedash
Why? Bcz you are a Thorin fan and can't see how biased he is? Nice comeback btw.
2021-02-24 15:12
bro leave it, uneducated plebs always like this
2021-02-24 15:24
He's acting like typical hltv user* As soon as someone has weaker period and few bad games he starts to shit on him. He is also type of person who talks a lot of shit before the game starts and when he is right he is godlike analyst, but when he is wrong he goes silent. Also he used to shit on CIS region, kept saying that they dont deserve minor/major spots and now we can see how good CIS could become thanks to hard work. I really dont like Thorin, imo he has no positive influence at all and only makes enemies bcuz of his fucktarded ego
2021-02-24 15:05
1 reply
#39
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Argentina Joedash
Pretty biased person and a butthurt simple fan. That's what Thorin is when it comes to CS
2021-02-24 15:10
#21
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Turkey 69kagan
Thorin is secretly Ukrainian
2021-02-24 14:56
2021-02-24 14:57
11 replies
also > "one of the most respected analysists" axaxaxaxax
2021-02-24 15:12
#46
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Australia B_Tannen
Because people can’t be wrong?
2021-02-24 15:19
9 replies
no, wrong predictions = bad analysist (sarcasm can occur)😂
2021-02-24 15:22
2 replies
#50
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Australia B_Tannen
Unfortunately mentally ill people who don’t speak proper English exist on the internet.
2021-02-24 15:23
1 reply
+1
2021-02-24 15:23
Ikr, these people acting like its obvious. Liquid killing it and it could gave gone bad for Ast
2021-02-24 15:28
That's not the case for thorin, he often lets his personal bias into his analysis. I'll give you another example, whom do you think was better between naf and twistzz in 2019? Or magisk and twistzz? Or electronic and twistzz? Do you think if twistzz was better than electronic, magisk and naf in 2019?
2021-02-24 18:52
4 replies
#85
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Australia B_Tannen
Of course it’s biased. No analysis from a human being isn’t slightly biased, or more.
2021-02-25 01:02
3 replies
Well, biased people are often delusional but statistics aren't.
2021-02-25 04:36
2 replies
#108
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Australia B_Tannen
I agree his Twitter is garbage but a lot of YouTube or other content he creates is good.
2021-02-25 06:20
1 reply
can't argue with that
2021-02-25 07:57
Thorin can say this because he, S1mple and Zywoo won the same amount of majors.
2021-02-24 15:07
1 reply
+1
2021-02-25 21:09
#56
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World mbata
He some kind of medusa? 5 heads?
2021-02-24 15:24
#57
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Greece RedWinter
didn't Zywoo play in tier 45 team before
2021-02-24 15:25
#60
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Peru TheJuan
zywoo was carrying his teams since day 1
2021-02-24 15:31
funny how all of the other navi players were the best available cis player and heralded as the next big thing before they joined navi but that doesn't fit the narrative dude will be silent again when navi sucks. he was too afraid of going in on zywoo when vitality was much better than navi last year and now after 2 poor tournaments in 2021 he finally found the courage to clown them. xaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2021-02-24 15:35
1 reply
+1 such a brave analyst
2021-02-25 16:18
#69
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
If you want to to enjoy Thorin's content, stick to YouTube and pay no heed to social media antics...
2021-02-24 15:49
nice i cannot view it, how are u still not blocked by him, he literally blocked everyone.
2021-02-24 15:52
So you mean vitality has a good roster? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-02-24 16:11
Nvm
2021-02-24 18:52
biggest retard we have in csgos world
2021-02-25 01:14
#98
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France PaulST
You mean the guy that cries everytime Zywoo gets top 1 ?
2021-02-25 01:32
if someone kicked s1mple's balls thorin's teeths would break
2021-02-25 01:36
Always liked Thorin, all of his versions but the one that posts on Twitter and the one who helps him to word his messages. But he's a nice fellow, sad he doesn't appear on the tourneys often.
2021-02-25 04:46
#111
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Canada J47
s1mple has been playing with a top 6 player for the last 3 years though. And regarded one of the best riflers this game currently has. So it isn't as "flawed" as he'd think
2021-02-25 06:24
#113
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Brazil hugoooo
Not ZywOo's fault that he got spotted very early... Also, s1mple also delayed his own success by being extremely toxic back on HR/F3 days...
2021-02-25 06:27
#116
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Norway TheDEA
"Hellraisers veri bad"
2021-02-25 08:11
More like Thorin BrainDead
2021-02-25 08:15
Thorin keeps track of past events very well, but like all fanboys he becomes blind when it comes to his favorite player. zywoo has all potentials to acheive more than s1mple..this simple fact bothers him and he talks trash.
2021-02-25 08:18
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#125
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Russia ToughGuy
no he's not ? his team suck ass already cuz of some players performance and when apex, rpk will be completely washed up there's simply 0 players who can replays them meanwhile in navi all players under 24 and there's a lot of talent in CIS so it won't be a problem to replace someone, if zywoo won't start 1v9 every game or learn english and go to international team he won't achieve anything big,
2021-02-25 09:18
15 replies
he already has more top1 hltv than s0mple and zywoo is in pro scene only for 3 years so yea
2021-02-25 16:00
14 replies
#159
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Russia ToughGuy
Top1s lmao. How many s-tier tournaments zywoo won during these top1?
2021-02-25 18:09
12 replies
rofl, and he is still better than s2mple. sucks to suck.
2021-02-25 18:31
11 replies
#164
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Russia ToughGuy
Yeah sucks to be 2 times top1 without any big trophy
2021-02-25 18:49
10 replies
2 years in pro scene same ammount of mvps as simple LULW
2021-02-26 08:15
9 replies
#202
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Russia ToughGuy
U actually dumb or what lmao? Zywoo got lucky to play with the best players from his country in his first 2 years but guess what idiot, now when apex, rpk will be completely washed up, noone wil replace them cuz there 0 talents in his country, they literally got YT highligher in the team. Thorin made perfect sense that zywoo didn't have to play with shit team in his rookie year
2021-02-26 08:36
8 replies
Simple has been in t1 scene since 2016 cope harder
2021-02-26 08:45
7 replies
#204
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Russia ToughGuy
In the end of career s1mple will have more trophies than zywoo
2021-02-26 08:51
6 replies
First you cant know that second do you know the reason why simple had to play in shit teams? (even tho HR and flipside were same tier as vitality when they were starting out)
2021-02-26 08:52
5 replies
#206
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Russia ToughGuy
I said it above french scene doesn't have any talent to replace apex, rpk. With who he will be winning trophies? FaZe? S1mple never had a chance to play in a team like zywoo's untill 2018
2021-02-26 09:00
4 replies
Coping hard. I guess liquid is shit team LULW fucking simple fanboys are delusional af btw simple had to play in shit teams because he got himslef banned in ESL for cheating and than he tried to avoid the ban which extended it. thorin kind of forgot to mention this little fact.
2021-02-26 09:02
3 replies
#209
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Russia ToughGuy
If only u could read properly
2021-02-26 09:09
2 replies
But simple played like zywoo in liquid already. Watch how "well" vitality did with happy and how "well" they did with nbk IGL and shox replacing happy. If only you could stop coping
2021-02-26 09:11
1 reply
Not to mention zywoo had to farm in AAA to make his reputation and some super trash french team even before that. Claiming that simple got "unlucky" and zywoo didnt compeltly disregards reality. Simple is toxic to this day. Not mentioned Simple cheated which forced him to play with shit teams , not mentioned. SImple had tough beginning by his own doing now fuck of and go suck his cock or whatever you fanboys do
2021-02-26 09:13
#160
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Russia ToughGuy
And now read #125 but with that fact that he still didn't win anything
2021-02-25 18:10
What does the tweet say? im blocked by thorin for saying that og doesnt need a roster move, just a bootcamp
2021-02-25 08:43
2 replies
For his fans I hope ZywOo one day has to play for some of the very flawed kind of line-ups s1mple played in during his career. For ZywOo's own sake I hope he never has to, though.
2021-02-25 09:19
1 reply
thanks m8, only thing i sorta agree with that thorin said
2021-02-25 09:48
? Vitality lineup is very flawed
2021-02-25 08:41
2Head
2021-02-25 08:47
#129
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Spain SS_SS
thorin sam2k account confirmed
2021-02-25 09:49
mejunk aka s0mple defender
2021-02-25 10:01
> Thorin > Respected analyst
2021-02-25 13:46
Thorin is literally the biggest s1mple fanboy out there lmao
2021-02-25 15:58
"I hope ZywOo one day has to play for some of the very flawed kind of line-ups s1mple played in during his career." If you don't understand what he means you're stupid
2021-02-25 16:03
well i mean aAa guys were shit compared to any simple's ex-teammate
2021-02-25 16:06
hahahahahaha jesus fucking christ typical blind s0mple fanboy
2021-02-25 16:07
don't know about "most respected" lmfao
2021-02-25 16:49
RpK and apEX are poor fraggers even if they can still have their moments, shox has a hard time finding impact aside from overpass and nuke because his aim is not what it used to be and he relies on his experience lurking, nivera is inconsistent now that teams have found ways to counter him and misutaa has good aim but needs to build experience That's certainly a flawed team, not a single other player than him in the top 20 for a top 3 team that's odd
2021-02-25 17:56
clown
2021-02-25 18:33
he's right, when s1mple joined navi they had a shit team and zywoo got to play with the best french players ever. also he could awp freely,s1mple couldn't because of guardian
2021-02-25 18:34
1 reply
zywoo didnt even play in the best french team. that was g2. Vitality became best french team after alex took IGL role. Also he couldnt awp freely he had to do it since alex was calling alot arround zywoo.
2021-02-26 08:20
+1
2021-02-25 21:11
"There is a reason why he is one of the most respected analysists" Did you just say that? LOL cuz he is exactly the opposite
2021-02-25 21:28
Most respected xDD Speak for yourself
2021-02-25 21:35
1 reply
+1 Thrown off league of legends and in csgo aswell besides Flashpoint. RESPECTED BTW😂😂
2021-02-26 03:46
Thorin would be lot better if he was actually neutral side
2021-02-25 21:36
well thorin is a well known simple fanboy
2021-02-25 21:37
He isn't wrong lol
2021-02-26 03:48
honestly tho you think of some of the Sheer bots S1mple has had to carry over the years like for Christ sake he even took Liquid to a Major final in 2016 which had JDM and Hiko ..... then 2018 with a past prime Edward and Zeus reached the London Major final and got beat by an incredible Astralis Team so truth be told S1mple has struggled to win events due to often having sheer bots on his team
2021-02-26 07:54
reapected? Bro he is a frustrated 8000 years old shit crying on the internet 24/24.Nobody with an actual brain respect this clown after the dev1ce thing.
2021-02-26 08:26
#201
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Bosnia and Herzegovina lousooo
+1 s1mple >>>>>>>>>>>>> zywoo but both are still top1 and top2 players ever. at least S1mple is top1 ever.
2021-02-26 08:32
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