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ISSAA OR NBK?
ZywOo | 
France Jaune 
2 sides to the story again we already know the issues with ISSAA and NBK isnt so good either cuz of his constant clashes with Aleksib that could lead to another Vitality situation in which well it did. anyway its a good move from OG anyway but i would also kick ISSAA soon.
2021-02-26 03:27
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#1
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
bump
2021-02-26 03:27
7 replies
ISSAA the beast from middle east
2021-02-26 10:34
6 replies
beast of shithole ! Interesting
2021-02-26 15:35
5 replies
flag?????
2021-02-26 15:51
4 replies
The Great Albania > African Fr0nce
2021-02-26 15:54
3 replies
XD you funny
2021-02-26 18:30
#85
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United States Shr3y
"great" albania Haha sure
2021-03-01 06:19
+1
2021-03-03 00:03
Issaa should 100% leave no matter what, maybe bench till lans or something, hes just not tier 1 star player like hes meant to.
2021-02-26 03:28
11 replies
yes atleast until LAN
2021-02-26 03:30
8 replies
But they will ptrobably do bootcamp in serbia or another place less strict
2021-02-26 04:35
7 replies
issa cant go out of his country, aleksib said it in the hltv interview he did the other day or the show or whatever that was he said they would bootcamp in portugal but issa cantXDDD imagine keeping such a slowdown
2021-02-26 12:33
6 replies
they will. He couldnt before, but a bootcamp is planned in march.
2021-02-26 15:52
5 replies
source?
2021-02-26 15:59
4 replies
OG social media manager
2021-02-26 16:10
3 replies
maybe you could fucking link the source? Or the typical he told me bcs i know him bullshit?
2021-02-26 19:32
2 replies
At the very least if they get to EPL play-offs there's a chance that the other 3 + whoever they use for the event will be there for the studio thing if it still happens just without ISSAA Otherwise I wouldnt count on it happening for a long time
2021-03-02 23:42
they mentioned it on their official Discord a while ago, but they didn't say that idea is cancelled imgur.com/a/KzsrseT
2021-03-02 23:55
+1
2021-02-26 15:25
OG will bootcamp in March.
2021-02-26 15:52
- issaa + s1mple + zywoo ez
2021-02-26 03:30
8 replies
#6
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
name flair checks out
2021-02-26 03:31
6 man roster?
2021-02-26 15:25
6 replies
they already kicked nbk
2021-03-03 00:10
5 replies
check the date mens/1/1
2021-03-03 00:19
4 replies
damn what
2021-03-03 00:31
3 replies
I sent 6 man roster on Feb 26th mens))
2021-03-03 00:32
2 replies
yeah I realize that now Im just confused why this thread was even in recent activity
2021-03-03 00:33
1 reply
probably 2 ppl arguing bumping the thread
2021-03-03 00:33
If flusha didnt want igl would be nice to see +flusha +sunny - issaa -nbk, but then again flush sunny project is interesting
2021-02-26 03:31
23 replies
It would be very interesting move, then they would only need mantuu to perform well and also suNny like he did in mouz and they are for sure top5
2021-02-26 03:35
13 replies
I feel like mouz suNny is long gone, but it would be great to see him in OG to have a real chance to get back to his form
2021-02-26 04:25
12 replies
Yeah it will be hard for him to get in "mouz" form
2021-02-26 04:38
11 replies
Isn't sunnny the reason Aleksib was kicked from ENCE? Sunny do own a part of ENCE, that might have played a factor. Don't know what Aleksib think of sunny after that..
2021-02-26 05:57
10 replies
#35
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Sweden Albikin
Nah allu did that
2021-02-26 06:02
8 replies
I believe I read xseveN only got informed after Aleksib got kicked. Allu had nothing to do with it?
2021-03-02 23:52
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#109
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Sweden Albikin
allu wanted his boy sunny in team and didnt belive aleksib was that good of IGL
2021-03-03 07:21
6 replies
Source?
2021-03-03 07:31
5 replies
#111
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Sweden Albikin
Listen to the whole allu interview and see the responses from his teammates sergej and even sunny says allu isnt reliable and he kinda fucked the team. Allu still doesnt give aleksib credit as an IGL same as NiKo doesnt give karrigan credit as an IGL
2021-03-03 07:33
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Fun fact: 66% of allu's team achievements came with Aleksib😏 Btw, I think allu knew that Aleksib is a good IGL but he was jealous and didn't like him because of that.
2021-03-03 07:39
Hmm, interesting! But I saw on NiKo's instagram story that Karrigan was his 2nd most favorite teammate to play with, doesn't that say enough?
2021-03-03 09:09
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#114
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Sweden Albikin
Really? NiKo said on overrated underrated that karrigan is overrated in his opinion
2021-03-03 09:20
1 reply
I don't know, maybe he does find him overrated but still awesome. Karrigan was his 2nd favourite teammate, behind Rain. It was on his IG yesterday, super nice of him
2021-03-03 09:28
I think Aleksib and sunNy don't have any beef, I don't think sunNy was that involved in Aleksi's kick other than being the replacement player
2021-03-03 00:44
ropz is also up for transfer so something like +ropz +sunny or maybe sergej instead of ropz if og dont want to spend big and he still has time to get out of his military service edit: feel like this could make them a real contender for top 5 depending on sunny's level
2021-02-26 04:31
5 replies
I keep seeing people talking about ropz changing teams. Is his contract expiring or something? Cause of course +ropz would be wonderful for OG, but is it possible?
2021-02-26 05:55
4 replies
Thorin and Richard Lewis said on by the numbers that mousesports has a known asking price for him, and if another team want to pay that ammount, they will sell him
2021-02-26 15:18
3 replies
Well, OG said that they were looking for free agents or benched player, right? So... no ropz for them
2021-02-26 15:21
2 replies
probably but would be exciting if it happened
2021-02-26 15:24
1 reply
Oh yeah for sure, ropz deserves a better team
2021-02-26 15:25
#26
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North America 007DBR9
flusha says he left fnatic not because of the results, but because he wanted to igl for the rest of his career, when he joined everyone on the team knew that he never intended to stay on fnatic, but he didn't leave early because well, they literally won the first tournament back with eachother
2021-02-26 05:29
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He did say "if flusha didn't want to IGL", so I think it was just an hypothetical situation, it would've been an interesting roster
2021-03-03 00:46
What's up with Sunny? He's been included in so many potential roster changes & potential new teams with his 0.89 rating. Never really followed him, is he really that good or is it just a meme?
2021-02-26 10:49
#8
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Australia B_Tannen
Should’ve cut ISSAA first.
2021-02-26 03:39
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#9
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
hard agree but i bet Aleksib pressured OG to cut NBK or OG just made a choice between him or Aleksi.
2021-02-26 03:44
8 replies
#12
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Australia B_Tannen
I think aleksib is fine. ISSAA was the real dead weight, but maybe conflicting ideas from NBK caused this move? Like conflicting calls or strats
2021-02-26 03:51
4 replies
#24
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
yea thats what im trying to say, i bet the NBK kick was more on because of the calls and strats and the conflict with him and Aleksi, much like Vitality with ALEX
2021-02-26 04:54
3 replies
#36
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Finland Veeti777
You make it sound like its aleksib who is problem but you dont know who made the call to bench nbk. And aleksib is the igl not nbk so it doesnt make sense why nbk wants so say how they should play.
2021-02-26 06:08
2 replies
#42
ZywOo | 
France Jaune
no lmfao, Aleksib is not the problem and never was, i was just comparing the current situation with how it also ended up when he was on Vitality.
2021-02-26 10:30
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#79
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Finland Veeti777
You said ”i bet Aleksib pressured OG to cut NBK” and you have 0 facts to back this up.
2021-02-26 16:01
according the source nbk had different vision on how to play the game than the rest of the team and bcs of that he performed badly
2021-02-26 12:32
Hard disagree. ISSAA has ping and performance issues which could be temporarily solved (or replaced later on). NBK has vision (and slight performance) issues which cannot be solved.
2021-03-02 23:53
I don't think aleskib pressured anyone, he has stated in many interviews that he doesn't like roster changes as solutions for bad results unless they're necessary, and it seems the decision is mutual and based on disagreements in how they view the game
2021-03-03 00:48
#10
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United States raymoney
ISSAA hands down
2021-02-26 03:45
could you fill me in on nbk vs aleksi/issaa plz i do not know about it thank you
2021-02-26 03:48
3 replies
#14
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Asia Blitzer
from the moment that aleksib came to the public to defend issaa is because something was going on "I know for a fact that ISSAA is like a 'glue' on LAN, he brings a lot of hype and he shoots better." hltv.org/news/31250/aleksib-on-ogs-situa.. my bet is, nbk thinking to remove issa because he isn't doing well in this period, and the rest still believing in issa come lan times, and deciding to remove nbk, because there is no denying they need something new
2021-02-26 04:01
2 replies
This lan time gotta come fast, otherwise OG will be a dead team the rest of the year
2021-02-26 05:59
looking how covid is currently standing that lan time wont come before they remove him imo. nbk seems right here as its best for the team right now. Issa is really a good player but when you dont perform as a starfragging professional you get removed. and he does not perform.
2021-02-26 15:30
#13
RUSH | 
United States ShawnM
NBK was partially IGLing on CT side no? that could cause problems
2021-02-26 03:54
4 replies
+1 and honnestly Aleksib can do the support role. 2 supports player on the same team... and nbk for a support player not many flash assist.
2021-02-26 04:41
2 replies
Isn't NBK entry fragger?
2021-02-26 06:00
1 reply
Not on ct side and Aleksib entry frag on nuke I prefer niko over nbk. Nbk looks like a nice guy, but og needs more consistency. Nbk have like 1 good game every 6 matchs.
2021-03-02 23:39
#37
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Finland Veeti777
Nbk wasnt the igl on any side. They tried it long time ago and it didnt work so aleksib was fully the igl
2021-02-26 06:10
#15
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Other M@GNU5
I say ISSAA temporarily until lans comeback, if a young talent joins OG then NBK is the solution to help that young talent to blossom and develop.
2021-02-26 04:03
#16
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Asia Blitzer
fair or not for nbk, the naked truth is this two projects created by him, where he ends up being the first one kicked... in both this is not good for your reputation
2021-02-26 04:04
#17
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Brazil mss1
-ISSAA - NBK +fer +michu
2021-02-26 04:10
2 replies
#27
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Hungary bentseh
Fer lmao
2021-02-26 05:41
- NBK + espiranto - ISSAA + fer
2021-02-26 06:00
ISSAA is bad at LAN too. wtf. Definitely ISSAA
2021-02-26 04:27
1 reply
#59
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Turkey vaxxle
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2021-02-26 12:24
Idk why NBK has such an ego. Yes he was an elite player at one point but besides his time on Vitality, he wasn't doing great after about 2017. He keeps getting kicked because of his personality, not exactly his performances. If he wants a career in CS he should stop burning bridges.
2021-02-26 05:15
2 replies
#56
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Spain SS_SS
i said it like 20 times, he is just stupid and has shit work ethic, he wasnt even praccing beacuse "im experienced i dont need to practice"
2021-02-26 12:03
1 reply
Yeah thats a pretty dumb mentality
2021-03-01 06:16
+ropz +michu ez top 5
2021-02-26 05:51
should have been mantuu
2021-02-26 06:25
Issa obviously, nbk was doing good if not for internal issues don't know any of that
2021-02-26 06:36
1 reply
+1
2021-02-26 06:39
both
2021-02-26 06:43
both
2021-02-26 10:32
-NBK -ISSAA +flusha (if he is fine with not being an IGL) +suNny
2021-02-26 10:32
both Michu and Calyx have left Envy. maybe that tells us something about what's going to happen
2021-02-26 10:35
1 reply
the only thing that tells us is that the dead envy team is finally disbanding
2021-02-26 10:42
+Michu
2021-02-26 10:54
How can people say nbk was doing good job when there was like 10 -nbk threads always after OG played tournament?
2021-02-26 12:00
issaa gtg
2021-02-26 12:00
Both Both are bots
2021-02-26 12:00
what are the issues with issa?
2021-02-26 12:01
3 replies
Has shitty ideas, talks over IGL and isn't exactly the smartest player. NBK micromanaged him a lot on ct sides (from Thorin video so maybe don't believe 100% I do believe he has more inside than we) in addition he has to play with high ping and is meant to be star but doesn't perform
2021-02-26 12:22
2 replies
"Has shitty ideas, talks over IGL" is this from some Blast or ESL comm audio? Just interested to listen to that.
2021-02-26 15:22
1 reply
They publish very little what comes to voice comms. like I said it's pretty much Thorin's words in the video where he talked about OG as a team and basically smashed Issa. I take it with a grain of salt. However I still believe someone like Thorin gets to hear more of the voice comms so he probably knows better.
2021-02-26 15:53
Probably would've removed ISSA over NBK personally, but that's simply because what he's adding to the team right now is not his billed potential, and it may be months or even years before he can ever actually perform to that simply down to where he lives. NBK might not be fit for a top 20 team skillwise, but at least you know what you're getting with him.
2021-02-26 12:02
2021-02-26 12:02
I am waiting for an official statement from OG. The simple fact this news comes from the french site Vakarm is suspicious. Even more when you see all the hating comments on NBK on the news...
2021-02-26 12:19
#60
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Portugal SyruzZ
Just kick both and get Ropz + someone else
2021-02-26 12:30
both should be gone
2021-02-26 15:53
Why are people spewing bullshit like saying kick ISSAA? Directly right after aleksib just said ISSAA has 100 ping...
2021-02-26 19:36
3 replies
#88
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Turkey vaxxle
PİNG İS BULLSHIT. FUCK THIS PING Woxic was playing 60 ping vs 10 ping device Device screen: woxic dead Woxic screen: Device didn't even show up
2021-03-02 23:43
2 replies
+1
2021-03-03 00:09
#119
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Turkey vaxxle
2021-03-03 09:32
-issaa +Michu ez top 1
2021-03-02 23:45
I would of kept nbk for now and get a real “star” player. Issa does not live up to the role.
2021-03-02 23:56
Issaa
2021-03-03 00:03
I like both of them but every team NBK leaves instantly becomes better so i’d say OG made the right decision to bench NBK
2021-03-03 00:08
fff
2021-03-03 00:24
"constant clash" they lasted +1 year ...
2021-03-03 00:33
Aleksi, why don't we play Vertigo bro? every time ISSAA asks me, Aleksi, Aleksi, go pick vertigo =D We haven't practiced vertigo I HATE THIS MAP FUCK VETIGO Aleksi "Aleksib" Virolainen
2021-03-03 09:22
#116
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Japan Peine
ISSAA should have be gone for his role he isn't really amazing also, "wait for LANs". Even if LANs return he would still be a problem in practice since it is only online So that lead to bad quality practice which is not really positive
2021-03-03 09:23
but guys issaa is lan player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2021-03-03 09:31
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