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Gambit = next Astralis?
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United States Ethanmeister 
Similar play styles, methodical and sticking heavily to fundamentals, great rotations and game sense as a team and individually + a bunch of firepower. New Astralis in 2022?
2021-02-27 17:22
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no
2021-02-27 17:23
1 reply
+1
2021-04-08 21:53
0/8
2021-02-27 17:23
#3
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Europe legal2333
new avangar
2021-02-27 17:24
3 replies
no Virtus.Pro = Avangar :)
2021-02-27 17:25
2 replies
er du dansk? (are you danish)
2021-03-01 13:04
1 reply
#148
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Netherlands PasscaLl
Oui
2021-03-02 08:15
I really hope that they will bc we need new #1
2021-02-27 17:24
10 replies
no we want Astralis #1 forever <3
2021-02-28 20:00
7 replies
oh hell no
2021-03-01 13:03
-1
2021-03-01 13:03
#144
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Denmark BadTakes
we need a new era
2021-03-02 00:25
No
2021-04-08 21:30
no ty
2021-04-08 21:31
hell no, they played boring CS when peeked #1. fnatic and NiP were playing most entertaining CS in CSGO
2021-04-08 22:03
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thing is people are treating astralis just how they treated fnatic. everyone malded over fnatic winning over their favourite team every time but as soon as they fell everyone wanted it back
2021-04-08 22:58
nobody needs #1 are you crazy
2021-02-28 20:05
I'd rather have it as it is now New teams nuking the old ones out of orbit, anyone can beat anyone.... So exciting
2021-03-01 19:15
#5
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Brazil DirthShadow
CS ONLINE BRO.
2021-02-27 17:24
16 replies
this sort of CS which is more based in fundamentals rather than flashy/puggy plays isn't going to be lost when LAN comes back around
2021-02-27 17:25
15 replies
Yes it is
2021-02-28 19:59
9 replies
Why?
2021-02-28 20:00
8 replies
This type of cs requires a really clean mind, good mindset, strong mentally and it is easier to get these while in home without any pressure dude
2021-03-01 08:50
7 replies
I like how you say "without any pressure".
2021-03-01 12:23
5 replies
External pressure yeah,
2021-03-01 20:21
4 replies
So $1 million dollars is not external pressure, or 100's of thousands of people watching, alongside your family is not external pressure?
2021-03-01 20:41
3 replies
+1
2021-03-02 00:32
You're not getting it dude.. My point is that in online, even tho there's pressure, it can't be compared to lan... Lan you have the whole crowd watching, the noise, the adversary right in front of you, like you have to face out everything dude, you're not under the protection of your house door you know...
2021-03-02 08:14
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#162
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United States Goob
have you ever even been to a LAN tournament?
2021-04-08 21:23
I can agree on some aspect because when it's loud in the arena you can't get everything clean & clear to everyone as if it was from home. But also the pressure from the live audience. On the other hand, this is how CS is supposed to be played and not the crowd interfering with the game audio, so I like this style from Gambit, VP & old Astralis. They deserve some credits :)
2021-04-08 22:01
It is
2021-02-28 20:00
4 replies
Why?
2021-02-28 20:01
3 replies
because all these young players cant play against the crowd
2021-02-28 20:18
2 replies
There have been plenty of youngsters in the past that didn't buckle under the pressure of LAN and with results like this they are gaining confidence all the time so, I suppose, only time will tell.
2021-02-28 20:19
I would be more worried about them succumbing to the pressure of playing in front of a big crowd if they were the sort of team that relied on a lot of aggressive peaks and flashy plays to win but the most aggressive player on their team is Hobbit. He's not going to have any trouble doing that in front of a crowd.
2021-02-28 20:21
NT
2021-02-27 17:26
#9
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Canada free_ropz
stfu
2021-02-27 17:26
Astralis = LAN + non fluke Gambit = fluke onliners
2021-02-27 17:27
7 replies
hobbit 1 major, s0mple 0 major
2021-02-27 17:33
5 replies
why is s1mple relevant to his statement?
2021-02-27 17:42
2 replies
#64
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Ireland whocarsman
because the guy's name still a braindead reply tho
2021-02-28 20:05
1 reply
He ain't wrong tho
2021-02-28 20:14
#101
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Europe dalgass
hobbit 1 major dev1ce 4 major
2021-03-01 04:50
1 reply
This katowice with 1 mil bank is almost major, so Hobbit almost 2 majors though
2021-03-01 20:23
#80
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India xEleanorex
+1
2021-02-28 20:13
Hobbit has just said by himself that they're onliners
2021-02-27 17:27
#12
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Netherlands ONGix
Gambit might be the best team in the world r/n, while Astralis isn't even the 3rd best in the CIS region
2021-02-27 17:27
5 replies
+1 ASStralis overrated, they were never even the best team from the CIS but somehow they're considered GOAT
2021-02-27 18:21
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#65
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Ireland whocarsman
+1
2021-02-28 20:05
Astralis from CIS? This is news to me lol
2021-02-28 20:08
2 replies
#100
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Europe dalgass
Yes the famous Nikola "dev1ce" Reedonatskia and Luka "gla1ve" Rossatska, very famous players from Kansk City
2021-03-01 04:49
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Not to forget the clutch minister Andrei "Xyp9x" Holeskov, entry Piotr "dupreeh" Rasmunev & anchor Emilian "Magisk" Rejvski all from Omsk
2021-04-08 22:57
Nah, they're not even close to Astralis.
2021-02-27 17:27
16 replies
not yet but who knows what a year in T1 can do for a team like this? Also Gambit could definitely beat Astralis in their current form.
2021-02-27 17:28
15 replies
“Not yet” Go to astralis page on hltv and look at achievements page...
2021-02-28 20:03
14 replies
What's your point?
2021-02-28 20:04
13 replies
To be 2.0 you have to exceede the original which is in the current landscape of cs impossible, they won so many tournaments when they had a big advantage over other teams because they “revolutionists” pro cs as some analyst called it, I think that is a big word to use but you get the point. Teams are so mucb closet so I don’t see gambit winning 4 majors and plenty of tier 1 events + a grand slam. They haven’t even proven themselves on lan.
2021-02-28 20:09
11 replies
Hence why I said not yet. And I'm not insinuating they are the new Astralis rn, I'm just saying they could become the next Astralis and begin really starting a legacy next year after getting acclimated to T1. I don't see why they couldn't do what Astralis did in the current CS landscape. The submeta's are constantly changing after all, and they have such a solid base to build on, I think they will only become stronger.
2021-02-28 20:13
10 replies
Thats your opinion then, I don’t think anything like astralis in 2017 18 and 19 will ever happen again tbh and It’s waaaaay to early to make comparison like this. They still need to prove that they can handle the pressure on lan or that they can be consistent. I don’t think We should be discussing thing like this before at least the end of the year When lan comes back.
2021-02-28 20:38
9 replies
I don't see why were shouldn't discuss things like this, even if it's early. It's all in the name of fun anyway.
2021-02-28 21:04
6 replies
I would at least Wait until end of EPL, they have to play a lot of different team and there might be a studio lan at the end. Maybe it’s all just a fluke but dominance like astralis for such a long time I think Is not hong to happen anytime soon
2021-02-28 21:12
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#102
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Europe dalgass
+1 EPL will show if gambit can win T1 tournaments back to back
2021-03-01 04:52
well...
2021-04-08 21:16
3 replies
Wut?
2021-04-08 21:20
2 replies
Not the end of EPL but definitely not looking like IEM was a fluke.
2021-04-08 21:23
1 reply
Yeah I realised that watching them play groups xdd I hope they wake up now ))))
2021-04-08 21:25
17?
2021-03-01 04:56
1 reply
I included it because they won Katowice and the major in that year so they did something
2021-03-01 09:00
okay maybe he means that what astralis has achieved so far is not possible to be achieved by gambit even with a dream 2021 run in T1..hence the "not yet" as in not happening in quite a while if not then idk, was a try
2021-02-28 20:11
new astralis online maybe
2021-02-27 17:28
let's go liquid
2021-02-27 17:29
new BIG
2021-02-27 17:29
#19
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Russia Praeter
What is this Astralis tho? Is that some former forgotten top team or what? Like Nip, Fnatic or Luminosity/SK?
2021-02-27 17:30
6 replies
lol flexin' hard
2021-02-28 20:11
nt see ya in epl
2021-02-28 20:12
#103
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Europe dalgass
So in the time you went from the rankings to write this comment you forgot the no. 1 ranked team on the list? wishful thinking. come back when gambit wins 3 back to back majors
2021-03-01 04:55
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#114
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Russia Praeter
Yeah, i forgot them right after 16-1 from Spirit
2021-03-01 10:31
1 reply
#138
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Europe dalgass
right, maybe you need ritalin
2021-03-01 21:04
+1
2021-04-08 21:28
#20
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Brazil SoL1dcs
Maybe...
2021-02-27 17:30
Why are people going so crazy over an online fluke wth
2021-02-27 17:30
10 replies
this has been a long time coming for gambit, it's no fluke.
2021-02-27 17:33
6 replies
This tournament, long time? Stop overhyping
2021-02-27 17:34
5 replies
how about their 19 series run ended by Astralis in Dreamhack Masters? Maybe not a long time even by CS standards but they were looking plenty strong before that as well.
2021-02-27 17:37
4 replies
What about we talk about T1 CS?
2021-02-27 17:39
2 replies
they're only just breaking into the T1 scene and already having this sort of impact and the way the team is structured and plays can only benefit from playing in the T1 scene. It's not like their playing some puggy balls to the walls style that's catching everyone off, they're just playing good CS. What more can you ask from them?
2021-02-27 17:41
1 reply
We can't talk about this online, let LAN come and see if they perform or not.
2021-02-27 18:16
If astralis plays in that tournaments, they wont even lose a single map.
2021-02-27 17:40
#73
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Russia Drapery
maybe it's just astralis navi liquid being complete dogshit recently? the problem is clearly not "online cs" here
2021-02-28 20:10
2 replies
You won't see Gambit being relevant when LAN comes.
2021-02-28 20:12
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#81
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Russia Drapery
they've been relevant at many major playoffs
2021-02-28 20:13
#22
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Russia overdozHF
if they will keep playing so great like this - they will be 100% . Very strong and smart team
2021-02-27 17:31
0/8
2021-02-27 17:31
sh1ro isn't device
2021-02-27 17:33
3 replies
he has a lot of potential though
2021-02-27 17:33
yeah he is better
2021-02-28 19:58
1 reply
yes but playstyle is too different, not comparable
2021-02-28 19:59
#33
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Korea ramza72
Lul fluke and online then maybe some program
2021-02-27 17:41
All the people saying no were probably calling Astralis chokers before they hit their peak from the 2017 major Aka - they are haters
2021-02-27 17:42
Not even slightly close.
2021-02-27 18:19
they have fnatic vibes more than astralis. they too dominating but astralis will be once again during major lan #tothestars for 5th major
2021-02-27 18:21
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Why fnatic?
2021-02-28 19:54
I vibe with this statement in terms of similarities in their gameplay, it's really obvious that Astralis is an inspiration for Gambit's style, but I don't see Gambit going that huge. There's still a long road ahead of them to become actually comparable to Astralis but I like what I'm seeing at the moment.
2021-02-27 18:25
0/8
2021-02-27 18:26
Gambit is strong and perspective, but they are too far from Astralis. They are absolute legends. We have to look at Gambit from long term point of view
2021-02-27 18:27
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#69
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Finland HARD4ENCE
PGL Major inc. and Gambit starting to rise *thinking*
2021-02-28 20:09
+1
2021-02-28 05:21
#48
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Europe Gigska
NAH. just fluke one tour
2021-02-28 19:57
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2021-02-28 19:57
#50
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Switzerland Sylleo
would coldzera make sh1ro cry ?
2021-02-28 19:58
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#169
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Czech Republic xANUx
welp when he played under NiKos calling I cried everytime
2021-04-08 21:37
similar play styles??? LOL
2021-02-28 19:58
3 replies
Look at their CT sides. The timings, rotations, utility support and positioning. How does that not remind you of peak Astralis?
2021-02-28 20:02
2 replies
Those are there, but the over aggressive risky plays just makes them look like a whole different team.
2021-03-01 04:43
1 reply
They play very reserved. The only player I see regularly playing aggressive is Hobbit.
2021-03-02 00:26
don't don't you don't you disrespect don't you disrespect astralis like that
2021-02-28 20:02
let them play onlan then we all know but i'm very impressive with nafany ts
2021-02-28 20:08
1 reply
Same. He's obviously doing something right from a calling perspective, the T sides could be better but the fact that they're performing at this level and he's still fragging like he is, color me impressed.
2021-02-28 20:10
Lol imagine thinking youngsters are even close to the legends in CS
2021-02-28 20:09
Young (4/5) russian astralis
2021-02-28 20:10
Gambit ---- only good for 1-2 tourneys and gone to shit tier for literally years,
2021-02-28 20:11
3 replies
??? The team is less than two years old and they've only had this lineup for like half a year???
2021-02-28 20:16
2 replies
he talk about gambit lineup after they win major with zeus
2021-03-01 13:49
1 reply
wtf relevance does that have to this team when hobbit is the only player from that squad?
2021-03-02 00:24
astralis = lan gambit = online kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-02-28 20:11
#82
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China Aoligay
Don't jump to conclusion.
2021-02-28 20:13
#85
Dosia | 
Poland iOFF
no
2021-02-28 20:15
#86
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Japan PKcrash
worst bait ive seen
2021-02-28 20:15
Its really hard to say. Its the first big tournament of the year. Gambit did win but lots of top tier teams looked so shaken. I think we need to wait for few more tournaments or even major to see if they can be new astralis.
2021-02-28 20:16
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#95
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Denmark Menterx
+1
2021-02-28 20:39
+1 electronic hasn't been up to his usual standard and everyone in Navi looked so flat in their match against Gambit and made a huge number of errors against Liquid and Gambit. Astralis have also honestly looked pretty bad in my opinion--their only wins in Katowice were against weak teams and their performance at Blast Spring Groups was extremely poor. Vitality also look pretty weak with Zywo0 not carrying and no one else consistently stepping up. Definitely don't think Gambit is now some unstoppable force that will dominate the year, but only time will tell.
2021-03-02 18:05
#91
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Lebanon Dogman69
they have potential sure doesnt seem like your classical CIS team where there are ego players like zeus, s1mple, markeloff etc the new generation of CIS players seem to be mentally stable
2021-02-28 20:21
tha is actually far from trueth ... they are simular to astralis then to navi but they dot have 5 good aimers they have 3 astralis players +2 randoms
2021-02-28 20:28
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They've got (at the very least) potential star power in Hobbit, Ax1le and sh1ro, and a great IGL that can frag in nafany. If interz only holds his weight in support of the rest of the squad then they are pretty much rock solid (on CT side especially).
2021-02-28 21:11
So basically you are saying, Gambit is more like Vitality/ Navi then ... ? LOL
2021-03-01 12:14
#105
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Finland dvlx
Gambit is Gambit
2021-03-01 05:10
1 reply
#108
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Dominican Republic NNNumb
+1 fluke bots never be like Astralis
2021-03-01 08:58
Nah
2021-03-01 08:54
#109
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Russia Unkind_nu
Won one major tournament and they're already like the next Astralis, lol. It's ridiculous if this is the last major tournament they can win
2021-03-01 08:58
I hope they will become #1... Its so fkin bored to see top1 team right now..always every year
2021-03-01 09:05
2019 ... - ENCE was pronounced a new top tier contender after a fluke run at Katowice Major ... - Nerds claiming Liquid Era ... - (CIS) Nerds proclaiming Avangar new “Navi” Astralis finishes year as #1 ranked team 2020 ... - Nerds be saying Astralis done ... - Same Nerds saying Vitality / Navi new Era ... Astralis finishes year as #1 ranked team ... 2021 has barskt started, with only ONE Big event played so far ... - And yet again Nerds be spewing forth ignorant nonsense ...
2021-03-01 09:12
6 replies
everything checks out
2021-03-01 10:32
1 reply
Yeah but he's completely right.
2021-03-01 18:44
Ence was a contender for a pretty good time before they kicked aleksib no?
2021-03-01 12:16
3 replies
Aside from Katowice in 2019, which other S-Tier /T1 tournaments did Ence “contend” in then ? (As in min. Semi finals) ? Ence was a “contender” (like every other team attending a tournament) yes, but not a top-tier one though ...
2021-03-01 12:53
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1st Place: Blast Madrid over Astralis being first to break their Nuke streak 2nd place: IEM Chicago, DH Dallas 3-4th place: Blast Sao Paolo, CS_Summit Majors: 2nd at Katowice and 5-8th at Berlin In terms of HLTV ranking they were top 5 for a pretty decent chunk of time and peaked at top 2.
2021-03-01 13:03
Also this year 2 big events so far
2021-03-01 19:14
they need 2-3 years to become comparable but they started the journey nicely!
2021-03-01 09:16
just wait
2021-03-01 12:15
0/8 and of course lulquid fan
2021-03-01 12:17
More like Vitalty. Great AWPer (Sh1ro), good IGL (nafany) and descent Rifflers (Ax1le, Hobbit).
2021-03-01 13:24
Yes
2021-03-01 19:14
OMG STOP FUCKING OVERRATE TIER 2.5 TEAM IN ONLINE ERA BECAUSE OF WINNING 1 EVENT.
2021-03-01 19:17
1 reply
Made this post before they won, based on how they've been playing over the past few months and now at the highest level lol
2021-03-02 00:07
#134
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Finland Doto_top1
if they win one tournament it doesen't mean that they are better than prime astralis lmao.
2021-03-01 20:23
6 replies
Is that what I said?
2021-03-02 00:07
5 replies
#150
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Finland Doto_top1
well, yes.
2021-03-02 14:17
4 replies
What part of "new Astralis in 2022?" suggests I was saying they're better than prime Astralis? Grow brain please.
2021-03-02 17:33
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#155
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Finland Doto_top1
"Grow brain"? Says american...
2021-03-02 21:49
2 replies
Says the guy with zero reading comprehension skills.
2021-03-03 01:01
Easily the dumbest Finn I've ever talked to.
2021-03-03 01:03
No /closed
2021-03-01 20:26
#139
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United States Shr3y
But they will out in group stages next tournament
2021-03-01 21:05
Perhaps but we need to get back to LAN. This online bs is ridiculous. We'll see.
2021-03-01 21:06
1 reply
#153
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Russia Desstar
Everyone forgot that at the beginning of the online era, it was mainly astralis and vitality that won.
2021-03-02 17:56
#149
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Russia NOD777
gambit = liquid in their dominance run. strong but short
2021-03-02 08:23
1 reply
Only time will tell.
2021-03-02 17:48
NEVER Astralis played like not a humans they played like a gods and no one can reach this level
2021-03-03 01:08
astralis should move to valorant
2021-04-08 21:30
Lets see thse 60kg never seen sunlight kids on lan infront of crowds... instead of playing from house in boxers and when mom making cookies for you and breastfeeding you .
2021-04-08 21:31
2 replies
I can practically taste the salt.
2021-04-08 21:40
1 reply
noo im not mad cause they beat astralis, just overall i really hate these russian 19yo kids who look like they have never seen sunlight and now they are better than anyone else in the world
2021-04-08 22:34
in lan that team disappears, overrated
2021-04-08 21:56
they are the new heroic
2021-04-08 21:59
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