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players like sh1ro, yekindar, ax1le, degster and such had been playing t3 for so long, and it was obvious that they were going to be good players, it is kinda sad that they did not care to pick these players up. there are still el1an and xsepower available, i hope they pick one of these so that they do not lock themselves from getting great players
2021-02-28 09:18
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that's what happens when your "best player" is a baiting awp abuser who only cares for his own stats. if he actually cared for the team he'd rifle and 2nd awp so a better player can take over flamie as the main awp.
2021-02-28 09:20
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0/8
2021-02-28 09:35
you don't think much before you speak, do you?
2021-02-28 10:19
+1
2021-02-28 10:33
nt
2021-02-28 10:55
Are you actually autistic?
2021-02-28 10:55
do you are have stupid
2021-02-28 11:11
1 reply
yes he are do
2021-02-28 15:11
#63
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara
+1
2021-02-28 11:53
are you fuck you?
2021-02-28 11:54
+1 but s0mple will keep on baiting
2021-02-28 14:57
the fuck are you talking bout?
2021-02-28 17:44
online
2021-02-28 09:21
3 replies
online had been going for a year and will go for another 6 months, an "onliner" they picked up could have matured into a team player by now.
2021-02-28 09:26
1 reply
Actually, EPL s13 play-offs (which will start on late March/April) are going to be LAN.
2021-02-28 17:46
#74
s1mple | 
Russia UM4R
just like richard lewis said wait until we get real lans and then we will see if these guys are onliners. stupid clown
2021-02-28 14:40
Imagine -flamie +yekindar Best cis team
2021-02-28 09:24
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#5
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Russia Jmishenko
yekindar wont go from best cis team to make another cis team best :D
2021-02-28 09:27
9 replies
Look vp fans out of nowhere, cringe. Which next team are you going to jump to ?
2021-02-28 09:28
6 replies
#8
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Russia AlexFrutis
true :D
2021-02-28 09:30
#12
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Russia Jmishenko
why i just cant tell my opinion with no reason?
2021-02-28 09:34
2 replies
hes just crying because vp beat astralis
2021-02-28 11:55
1 reply
#79
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Russia Jmishenko
+1
2021-02-28 17:30
I actually remember him with VP flair a long time before this Katowice
2021-02-28 11:56
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#81
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Russia Jmishenko
+1, im cheering for vp core (qiker, jame, buster) since boston major 2018, sometimes i changing my main flair, but if somebody will check out my profile, he will see vp flair tho
2021-02-28 17:38
#70
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Russia Vigilance
stfu plastic fan
2021-02-28 12:06
1 reply
#80
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Russia Jmishenko
wdym why am i plastic fan?
2021-02-28 17:33
Not gonna happen Vp is on a roll
2021-02-28 09:27
#36
B1T | 
CIS Qewror
I dreamed it would happen last year, and I hope it will happen soon.
2021-02-28 10:33
They will keep Flamie with his insane 0.97 rating and 0.75 impact cuz NaVi management have no balls to change something when team shows sometimes good results
2021-02-28 09:30
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#11
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Russia D1ma_
do you know that money is not everything VP and gambit wont sell their players, they are doing great rn so navis option is their academy teams
2021-02-28 09:32
12 replies
When Yekindar played for Pro100 Zeus would ez let him go in NaVi, now Woro2k is free , B1t is free for NaVi, M0nesy will turn 16 soon and will be free as well. Such players as Patsi and Elian would not cost much. But Flamie still is in the team
2021-02-28 09:39
6 replies
B1t and m0nesy are not free , they are already navi players
2021-02-28 09:42
#21
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Russia D1ma_
flamie > patsi adn elian
2021-02-28 09:53
4 replies
xD
2021-02-28 10:27
Flamie is tier3 player
2021-02-28 10:38
2 replies
#58
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Russia D1ma_
still better than elian and i dont even know who is patsi
2021-02-28 11:34
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#83
mir | 
Russia ErleN_
flair checks out
2021-02-28 17:41
i think swap flamie with one of youngster from navi academy would be better
2021-02-28 09:39
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#22
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Russia D1ma_
b1t should play not only inferno i think they should try him on overpass and train
2021-02-28 09:54
3 replies
+1
2021-02-28 10:16
Blya da snusicha tolko NA nuke I mozhno ostavlyat, na luboi drugoi karte b1t budet luchshe
2021-02-28 10:59
1 reply
Zhiza.
2021-02-28 17:48
#10
rain | 
Kuwait roye
i think navi underestimated opponents a bit
2021-02-28 09:31
3 replies
im really disgusted if they really underestimate team gambit, im really worried since my prediction of navi in 2019 became true that they didn't perform well and didn't got any achievement after katowice 2019 until the end of 2019
2021-02-28 18:02
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#89
rain | 
Kuwait roye
navi was terrible last year i mean if no simpl
2021-02-28 18:03
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yeah that is why i want to see if navi can change something with their lineup right now, if using every strats does not work for them. navi can swap flamie with b1t for firepower
2021-02-28 18:08
the reality is navi is completely bot team with one above average player. they refused to make roster moves because they have no money (all money goes to s2mple). now theyre not even top 3 CIS team. good job botvi.
2021-02-28 09:35
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i specifically said that these players wouldnt have cost them anything if they cared to pick them up when they were in t3 teams
2021-02-28 09:41
They have academy of 10 players, navi said since they built this young project, they won't buy anyone else anymore
2021-02-28 09:41
flamie proven on LAN, the others I aren't think so
2021-02-28 09:43
5 replies
yes. he is proven dogshit on lan and online. mr. consistent dogshit. his days in navi are numbered
2021-02-28 09:56
1 reply
#60
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Poland Roxin
He always gets a contract extension every time he drops like 1.1+ rating or gets a clutch
2021-02-28 11:46
#25
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Proven with under 1.0 rating. The guy has to go eventually. He's already been like 6 years in NaVi which is more than most players.
2021-02-28 09:59
2 replies
Zipex is even worse but yet people hating on flamie
2021-02-28 11:55
1 reply
Zipex 😂😂 but zipex been bad only after his brake, before that he was clutch master and spray king. Flamie is bottom impact 19/20 games
2021-02-28 12:12
The buy out for these players were ridiculously high. Perfecto who wasn't even as big as a name as them was a 200k buyout. CIS market is dodgy shit.
2021-02-28 09:57
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i said that BEFORE they landed on big teams, i do not think that vp paid 200k for yekindar, it was obvious that he was a really good player in a bad team, navi could have bought him when he was in pro100.
2021-02-28 10:18
10 replies
Vp was a lower t2 sinking ship that never saw a big lan opportunity, the risk of buying t3 promising star was much more acceptable then doing the same as a top 3 contender
2021-02-28 10:30
6 replies
electronic, perfecto and boomich all were the same tier as yekindar when navi purchased them, so bad take.
2021-02-28 10:33
5 replies
boomich already made it to playoffs of a major, electronic was a beast in flipsid3. your comparision only makes sense for perfecto
2021-02-28 10:39
3 replies
electronic was as good as yekindar is right now, boomich went to playoffs as a support player, he was unproven as an igl.
2021-02-28 10:41
2 replies
well you're saying navi shouldve taken the chance on yekindar when he was in pro100, electronic was playing t1/t2 with flipsid3 while yekindar was playing t3 with pro100
2021-02-28 10:43
Electronic played on major with flipside with markeloff and blade. Dude, pls. Boombla did a solid major run and winstrike literally rebuilt team around him. Only perfecto was a risky take, but he reached ~ 1.2 + rating with simons and was a really promising onliner. Him and idisbalance rekt vitality and some other solid teams at some point on qualifiers
2021-02-28 11:48
yekindar come from tier-5 scene where CIS team fight in qualifiers and cant qual for any tier-2 event, while elec and boomich were playing in major before navi, boomich played playoff and elec was the only one who perform in f3 and every single game where f3 was in there was a thread or comment SAVE ELECTRONIC, perfecto yea maybe the same
2021-02-28 10:43
And do you think they bought perfecto at tier 1? CIS orgs sell players for 500k just to avoid NAVI. Navi tried buying 2 other players before perfecto but they were too much because of CIS.
2021-02-28 10:30
2 replies
pro100 is zeus's team, i doubt he would do that, other than that, maybe you are correct that teams inflate the prices against navi
2021-02-28 10:34
1 reply
1,5 million for fl1t. GG
2021-02-28 11:49
so spirit is richer than navi since they bought degster? nah navi are just trying to find the cheapest way
2021-02-28 10:36
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2021-02-28 10:41
1 reply
doesn't make sense since i talked about spirit and degster and degster was clearly upcoming t1 talent
2021-02-28 10:53
Spirit is a t2 team, buying a promising t3 player and making him main awper. I doubt - s1mple + degster was an adequate move in any conditions, the only possible way of this to happen is if s1mple quit navi, but even then navi would target sh1ro first
2021-02-28 11:52
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lazy to answer but this guy already answered youu #29
2021-02-28 12:02
Cuz navi's management just sucks. Missing out on quikert, Fl1t, degster, sh1ro, Yekindar can only be compared to not seeing an elephant in the room. And this elephant is always right in front of you. No, fuck that, let's wait for 4-5 years when that Demon dude grows up.
2021-02-28 10:23
The buyouts are too high and orgs dont want to sell players to Na'Vi for some reason.See what happened when they tried getting Fl1t
2021-02-28 10:25
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fl1t was not in a t3 team, he is a player in a big org, degster for example played for espada, which is not as big as forze.
2021-02-28 10:43
it's not like they don't want to, it's that if navi is interested in some players orgs easily gets super greedy and want 5-10x as much if some other CIS org approached them. that's probably why they decided it's best for them to groom them youngsters before they get contracted by those orgs.
2021-02-28 11:55
They just want to get as much money as they can from Na'Vi. It's not about keeping the players, it's all about the money.
2021-02-28 17:52
One fluke online event and you start making “deep analitics”. Bad try
2021-02-28 10:28
#35
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Ukraine speecher
Winning 1 even doesnt mean NOTHING.
2021-02-28 10:31
2021-02-28 10:33
To be honest the teams has literally top 2 of 5 best players of 2020, they don't need more firepower They actually need strats that work and for their players to be reliable Someone like flamie tends to drop the ball in crucial moments and literally makes the team the best or worst
2021-02-28 10:42
#55
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Korea ramza72
Just a 1 good game fluke with online who care!!!!
2021-02-28 11:05
Navi tried to buy yekindar and other players ,but orgs were making high prices on them ,so Navi decided that it's cheaper to bring players from their academy like b1t or m0nesy
2021-02-28 11:09
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They didn't try to buy Yekindar. He was playing for Pro100 which is Zeus' org. I'm pretty sure they would find solution with Danya, but they decided to keep Flamie cuz management is obosranniy. They don't wanna change anything cuz can be worse. Look at Spirit. They had good AWPer Idisbalance, but they decided to take even better one cuz they didn't think "It can be worse", they think "how can we be better" Meanwhile NaVi management is obosranniy, if team is somewhere near top5 they won't make changes, they will wait team to fall out of top10 and best players of team to waste their prime on tier3 teammates such as Edward and Flamie, and then, probably, they will change something
2021-02-28 14:36
I dont get why people try to stuff every russian talent into NAVI, sure NAVI would benefit from changes but stop stuffing every CIS player on the end of your tongue into NAVI, completely ignoring roles and everything, degster just presses W like a retard and eventually he got fucked by Gambit for it, is that who is gonna main awp for NAVI if you put him there, sure s1mple would be nice on riffle but its unrealistic
2021-02-28 15:02
They don’t need an Awper tho 😂
2021-02-28 15:14
I agree, Navi GMs are very ignorant of the quality and amount of t1 potential talent in their region. They need to bench flamie, he is very inconsistent and check stealer at this point. S1mple is a very good hybrid player, so even if they get an insane awper from the region they could try to fit him in.
2021-02-28 17:38
theres only one way for navi to be back at the top, -s0mple -flamie -boombl4, add 3 young players and build from scratch like gambit. Play thousand matches in t2,3 then dominate
2021-02-28 18:13
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