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They have been playing from bootcamp. Basically a LAN without crowd. And they clearly know how to handle with pressure. As a young team they still need to gain more experience, but it has nothing to do with LAN or online.
mostly just Astralis fans
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nice name xdd
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+1 most astralis fanboys are just 10 or have the mentality of one
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Gg
FPX > Gambit > VP > Astralis = FPX top 1
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ez godj
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fpx = bestest
wtf did you just compared
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First LANs will be without crowd probably, so basically no difference for Gambit since they have been playing from bootcamp for 6 months or so.
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Of course it's "in home". LANs are also not outside, didn't you know?
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Typical CS:GO pro player is either 48 kg skinny kid or 148 kg skinny-fat kid. Do you think they will afraid each other so much so it will affect their performance or what? :D
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yes
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I have been playing at LANs before most of people here were even born.
There is a difference between excitement and being a pussy. And excitement is something you will get playing big online tournament as well.
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So was I, friday night games back in the day, but if you have the experience you will know with excitement comes nervousness and emotions will affect your performance in both ways.
only youngsters will talk about being a pussy and ignore the rest inbetween. You gotta start your career and if you are successful you want to hold on to it and evolve further.
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You missed the point. Excitement mostly comes from playing t1 tournament against good teams, doesn't matter if it's LAN or online.
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Lmao, ok, if you say so.
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I know what you're talking about, I agree that LAN is obviously more fair, but I doubt CIS players have better ping/route to the server than EU teams, so "online" advantage isn't on CIS side...
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No obviously not, The advantage is universal, and teams that are called onliners are usually teams who have very high individually skilled players (xantares on big for example) And these players tend to take peeks that are in online free kills and super hard to counter on the receiving end in online but much easier with 0 ping. You know the term "headshot on LAN" Ik that is more of a joke now but it still holds true on many occasions. I am not trying to downplay CIS success, they play really good cs but it's up to them to prove me wrong once LAN comes around. I personally don't think they will but you never know.
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Are you talking from your own experience? Because it's totally understandable that Swedish players might literally feel online's advantage while playing at some Scandinavian (especially Swedish) server against players from other countries who has worse connection to the server (higher ping, longer route with more chains). Of course when you come to lan after that you feel that you're "not that good" anymore because everyone has the same connection, same ping, etc, so everything is more punishable for you. Personally I noticed long time ago: it's harder to play against Scandinavian players (especially against Swedes) at Swedish server, despite ping difference isn't that big (30 vs 5-10-15), sometimes it's almost impossible to hit them when they peek despite your crosshair was on the model and your reaction was on point, meanwhile they often easily hit hilarious shots like insta one deags from other side of the map.
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This Hobbit guy is such an onliner, he'll never win a major on LAN.
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xdddd astralis fans in a nutshell
AHAHAHHA
that's why i cheered for them in the final, while vp playing each one in their house , gambit played in "lan" without crowd
First of all, a lot of them are whiffing shots like crazy. Like for example interz and nafany on vertigo. Some rounds they looked awful and some rounds they went godmode. But how can you compare lan with bootcamps lol. The thing with lan is that they're connected to the same "internet" if you understand what I mean and obviously the pressure from fans. Confidence is a big part in this game.
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Yes, they were under pressure and clearly managed to handle it and continue playing their own game.
No pressure from fans because I doubt first LAN will be played with crowd.
Didn't get your argument about connection, technically EU should have a slightly better connection because of closer route to the server and probably a bit lower ping, so LAN will be "more fair" for CIS teams. Unless you're one of these people who believe that CIS teams have advantage playing with 15-30 ping against 5-10.
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+1 some people spect that when lans return suddenly navi astralis and g2 dominate
Gambit will be tier 2 on LAN 100%
no way u compare house bootcamp vs lan bro:D thats 2 different things lets be real
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Bootcamp and LAN without crowd.
What's the difference?
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wdym what's the difference. You can hear the other team, there are casters you are on stage. 0 ping so no peakers advantage... big difference
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Ok, you can hear other team, so what? Are you a little girl who can't stand some trashtalk?
Casters are supposed to be scary for players or what?
Stage is irrelevant without crowd.
And btw you're wrong about "no peakers advantage".
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What about the effect of an unfamiliar environment? I mean, bootcamp is a place where teams usually spent a lot of time, so it's basically the same as playing from home.
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Bootcamp isn't necessary always the same place.
The main effect of an unfamiliar environment is table height. Rest isn't as big deal as you imagine. They're fucking pro players in the end. And they even have 2 experienced coaches (groove and F_1N) who can help with all this stuff.
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Teams usually spend at least a week before a tournament in the current bootcamp place, so they manage to settle in there. Thus, bootcamp is more of a home than a LAN.
LAN tables height is adjustable, btw.
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As I said each bootcamp isn't necessary in the same place as previous one, so here is your training for "unfamiliar environment" if you wish, although I don't think it's such a big deal for professional players, especially when you have coaches like groove and F_1N who have been playing LAN tournaments 15+ years ago already and have ton of experience, so I'm pretty sure they could help their players if/when it's needed.
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Well... I literally wrote that they spend a couple of days in any bootcamp before the main competition anyways, either it's the same place or not... Btw everyone is entitled to call Gambit "onliners", until proven otherwise.
stage isnt irrelavant without the crowd why are you so persistent about this point that playing at home is the same as playing on stage without a crowd. You are clearly super excited about your team preforming in one tournament and now your saying they will keep it up on LAN. Also everyone on 0 ping almost eliminates speakers advantage, so you are wrong about that btw.
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I didn't say anything of what you ascribed me.
"Speakers advantage" is still here on lan, maybe a bit less because of no ping differencies. Learn about netcode and interpolation in particular.
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Go look it up, peakers advantage is eliminated with 0 latency. /closed
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Ok, I'll look it up, but interpolation is still here even on LAN, so "peakers advantage" might be reduced because of no ping differences and less lagcompensation, but I highly doubt about complete elimination, for that players would need to play with cl_interpolate 0.
Do you really believe they will keep this performance constantly through the year?
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I'm not a believer. I'll just wait and see if they able to maintain such performance at long distance.
Before someone comments, I’m not mad that gambit won and very happy for these still very young guys to already win such an event.
But this thread XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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> I’m not mad
> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Ok bro. :D
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XDDDDD is a reaction to this thread, sitting in a room together is NOT compatibele to lan at all, no pressure from other team sitting there and no crowd. Ur probably baiting anyway. Have a good night!)))
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What "pressure from other team sitting there" are you talking about, lmao? Screaming random shit to each other during the match? Lol, please. Most pro players won't give a fuck about it. All the pressure is mostly in game.
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Have you ever been to lan? There is a completely different atmosphere on lan in comparison with sitting at home even if there isn’t a crowd there is still extra pressure when you are sitting in a room where all cameras are pointed at you instead of sitting comfortable at home.
If lan was the same as online why did teams like heroic and big and now teams like gambit become so much better?
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Yes, I played lan tournaments multiple times, even had to travel to other cities (in EU it would be the same as going to other country, lol) to participate in some of them. That was in 2005-2007. Of course it's not the same as playing from home, but it's not like you will turn into complete bot after being god at online, lmao.
Heroic and BIG are already irrelevant despite online era is still here. Gambit has been grinding online for a long time and it's not like they just appeared out of nowhere, although it's probably their first deep run at t1 tournament.
+1 100% bait
yes it does /closed
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Nt prokda
they are playing since the gambit yng from the same house if i remember correctly.
I don't think they are onliners but cmon, this is a stupid argument. It's still played online.
Stop being an idiot. It's not even remotely the same as LAN without crowd. LAN is superior for technological reasons, not just crowd. There is negligible ping on LAN, which means XantaresPeeks literally don't work on LAN. Hence, teams don't have to be scared of such peeks on LAN, while holding angles. The Result is - entire playstyle of teams change on LAN, because of technological differences. There is no packet loss, or even packet variance. There is no difference of computing equipment (everyone has the same PCs). There's no coach except during timeouts. Also, no possibility of things like coach bug abuse, etc.
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Hobbit said that their analyst team said everything what to do and it worked out so idk.
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The ping is still like it is for online, 5 ping or 50 ping makes a differance
