s1mple and zywoo more consistent than guardian (even at peak)
I agree with the players but not the order. The order is pretty much impossible to put in a 'right' way
Better to create a poll than publish thread. Then use the poll results to create the thread.
zywoo above simple even tho simple is playing at the top level for 5 years and zywoo for 2
Yep, pretty accurate but imo zywoo>s1mple
pasha never consistently awped the vp lineup was known for their inconsistency. kennys only had 1 4month stretch of greatness where he was number 1 he cant be the best awper when he only has 1 year of being the best. simple has played longer than zywoo and is a better awper. guardian has been streaky for a long time and while he is easy top 3 simple is a better player. and where is skadoodle or nitro people who had stretches of greatness longer than allu or oskar and have achieved more?
Is maikelele still looking for team? Haven't heard his name since godsent dropped him
Cerq?????? Including bot Allu and trash pasha but not the Bulgarian sex god is a disgrace
"Achievements + individual skill + consistency."
achievments - dev1ce 1st
consistency - dev1ce 1st
individual skill - how did you determine that? in term of mvps - device, in term of hltv top20 then its also most likely device(if you will make it by points 20-1st, 1-20th), in term of stats device is 3rd
Achievements?If so... the order is not correct
s2mple is best awp player in the world imo.
best awpers in their prime? GuardiaN 100% sure
Your order is pretty nice, you are considering skill than achievement much more, but I like it.
If, as in your post, you're taking into account Achievements, skill and consistency:
1. Device 4 times major winner, 5 times in top 5, his legacy is higher that his skill level but the latter is still pretty damn high.
2. JW 3 times major winner, created and perfected his aggressive playstyle in the 2014+ era.
3. S1mple it's just s1mple, constantly carried his team with his incredible flicks and perfect aim.
4. Fallen created an era, 2x major winner, incredible awping WHILE being the IGL. His consistency as an awper is also incredible
5. KennyS Major winner, Valve had to nerf the AWP because of his incredible handling of it. Never really recovered but still easily in the top 5.
6. Zywoo Kid came out of nowhere and is level is matching S1mple's. Sill has to win a major and prove his consistency in the following years
7. Guardian Incredible awper for years, heartbreaking career, cannot really go higher.
8. Allu great awper, helped NIP keep their level for a few years, showed what he is capable in Ence...
9. oksar Great level, shows no sign of motivation
10. skadoodle Major winner, showed when he needed but yeah he's from NA so the bar is lower
Best awp abusers summarised
THE WAY I SEE IT FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN READ.
2. JW - 3MAJORS - 20 LanTrophies - 1MajorMvP - 3 top 10 players of the year - 3Mvp
3. BadFallen - 11 LanTrophies - 2 MAJORS - 2 top 10 players of the year - 4 MvpS
4. PenisS. - 10 LanTrophies - 1 Major - 1 MajorMvp - 10Mvps - 3 top 10 players of the year
5. Pasha - 11LanTrophies - 1Major - 1MajorMvp - 3MvPs - 1 top 10 players of the year
6. Guardian(NOMAJOR) - 17 LanTrophies - 8Mvps - 3 top 10 players of the year
7. S1mple(NOMAJOR) - 9 LanTrophies - 12MvPs - 5 top 10 players of the year - 1 best of the year
8. Zywhoo(NOMAJOR) - 5 LanTrophies - 11MvPs - 2 best of the year
No markeloff, no cogu, no walle?
in terms of achievements, kenny besides a major win+mvp really didnt win many tournaments relative to a lot of other players on this list
spent almost his entire career in lacklustre teams
JW is undervalued :))))))))
Kennys was the s1mple of 2014 on steroids. Like 1.37 average rating. This with being top 6 several times while being in titan, then better frenc teams. French teams that can never remain as nr.1
I will never forget top form kennys with sound barrier breaking flicks nevar
Dev1ce gets disrespected as always. Dude is just GOAT AWPer and PLAYER!
Achievements and MVPs speak for themselves!
Why isnt dev1ce top 1? i know i also despise him for just camping but its just dude being above room temp iq
Well, thiss the opinion of the Russian, it's surprising that s1mple is in top 10 xDD
kennyS top1... u made my day
nt nt nt nt
Allu - Sico - Cooper - WorldEdit
since it was never mentioned in this thread to be csgo specifically
I will put Markeloff in this list of best awpers of all time
how is kennys top1 awp? even in his peak which was in 14-15 he wasnt even best awper? in 2014 JW was higher rated, in 2015 guardian was top2 hltv lmao
Incredible list, I ofc don`t agree 100%, but I think you have a very good take.
Also really nice to see someone mention Maikelele, he looked insane in NIP, I wonder what would have happened if they didn`t kick him when they did, I think he was better in that team than Allu.
best AWPer from asia is xcuratte.
400kg no competition, GOAT
s1mple > device > zywoo if all time
is it weird i think Xccurate or Danking should be in this list if we're rating them on individual skill? Not like top 5 but maybe 10th? 9th? maybe 8-7th?
Device, FalleN, S1mple, ZyWoo >> Guardian
DRAKEN +1+1+1 DRAKEN +1+1+1 DRAKEN
Well this is strictly CS:GO AWP'ing, so I respect your opinions. :)
Zywoo better than s1mple LUL
I just don't agree with Zywoo being in front of guys like s1mple, device and FalleN.. after all, s1mple is kinda like old KennyS; device has a different (but EFECTIVE) style, and FalleN on his prime was a BEAST, unstoppable (Dupreeh said it was harder facing FalleN on his prime). So, my top 5 would be:
And THEN we can add Zywoo.... IN MY POV
have a nice day
s1mple should be above zywoo since he has been in the scene longer!
- Not a s1mple fan
Personal achviement + skill
1. Device (18 MVP's, 2 major mvp, 5x top3, best: 2nd, 4 majors, 24 ttophie)
Most consistent, more personal achviement, he doesn't have the highest Peak, but his contribution tô Win, is Just tô big
2. S1mple (12 MVP's, 3x top 3, best 1st, 9 Lan troph)
Insane player, If continue in that level, sono Will pass device
3.Zywoo (11 mvp, 2x top3, best 1st, 5 troph)
2 times top 1, no word to that, Young as fuck. Hás potential to pass s1mple and device. It Will be interested s1 x zywoo in the next years.
4.Guardian (8 mvp, 3x top 10, best 2nd, 17 troph)
Why above kennyS? Similar in top 10, More consistent in top20 overall, highest peak, even thought doesn't won a major, won much more on LAN
5.KennyS (10 mvp, 3x top 10, best 6th, 10 troph)
6.Fallen (4mvp, 2x top 10, best 2nd, 11 Lan troph)
Insane peak, he is a IGL and a Very sucefull one, had much higher peak than JW
7.JW - (3mvp, 1 major mvp, 3x top 10, best 5th, 20 LanTrophies)
Even thought he was the Second that won more tournaments, he didn't have a high peak as the others or a insane number of MVP's.
Best pure snipers overall and at peak are GuardiaN, KennyS and FalleN.
s1mple and ZywOo are hybrid awpers.
Maikelele such a nice guy, great beatboxer and funny dude, sad to see him not playing so often
allu is higher lol, who the fuck is oskar and what has he done
Everyone knows that WALLE is the GOAT awper since he´s the godfather that started it all!
Then delp4n had some sick skillz in 1.6 aswell so i would pick them 2 in my list.
Only newfags write csgo players only (but u only wrote best of all time, not which game)
I would just tweak the list a little bit
10.You or me
Goat of the decade
zywoo s1mple devve (+mantuu ;))
the rest are trash
I think skadoodle should be here, he was the best NA player for years and he was carrying them in the finals in Boston (he was bad the whole tournament i know). Skadoodle deserves at least a top 10 spot.
KENNYS KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK LOL