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He could have been one of the best csgo players if he stayed in the game I think. His aim stands out even among the best aimers in CSGO history and if he had properly dedicated himself he could have found himself still on C9 CSGO or on another international/NA team like EG, OG, or whatever. His problem was that he was too 1-Dimensional and reminded me a lot of Scream where he had insane aim but didn't try as hard to elevate other aspects of his game. If he had an IGL like karrigan or aleksib who could micromanage him and help develop his game he could have been someone like a twistzz 2.0 or a NiKo. Both players with absolutely bonkers aim but great awareness and gamesense. It kind of annoys me that they didn't want to micromanage him as much because you can see the impact micromanagement can have on improving a player's form. You see that with bymas when Karrigan was helping him or with sergej on Ence when aleksib was telling him what to do. TLDR; Tenz could have been a top player if he was micromanaged and helped to be developed as much as players like bymas, sergej, OG players, rpk (when he came out of retirement), frozen, etc Please do not hate, this is merely my opinion. If you have any objections feel free to write them below in a polite and considerate manner.
2021-03-02 07:14
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#1
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Reunion Esquinox
no he's trash
2021-03-02 07:15
9 replies
Hella overrated
2021-03-02 07:52
4 replies
trueeeee
2021-03-02 09:39
#106
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Indonesia woooi15
flag doesnt check out
2021-03-02 12:37
2 replies
#158
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Netherlands PasscaLl
unexpected from fellow weeb
2021-03-02 18:13
oop-
2021-03-03 02:07
"The way we've been trying to approach the team has been more of a... it's less of me doing everything with a coach, it's more people have to have some sort of self-reliance on each individual to create structure". This is from daps' interview. Tell me that doesn't sound like an absolutely shit system to play in if you are an inexperienced player who hasn't played any big tournaments before. Daps himself said he was trying to implement a different style to the one he used in NRG. So when your IGL is switching to a style he isn't used to and you're playing CS basically relying on your immature ass decision making, it is reasonable to expect an underperformance. Look at bymas in 2020 when he was playing for FaZe for example.
2021-03-02 08:00
1 reply
+1
2021-03-02 17:12
#160
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World mbata
Didn't read but noob
2021-03-02 18:14
nah he was kinda overrated and not really that goo
2021-03-02 07:15
14 replies
he only had 3 months to play on c9
2021-03-02 07:19
13 replies
bc he kept shitting the bed and was being a little bitch
2021-03-02 07:19
12 replies
+1
2021-03-02 07:23
it's almost as if you put a young player with low experience into a team as the entry he won't perform well in the first few months. Especially if he isn't getting the help he desires from the team.
2021-03-02 07:35
9 replies
you bring all this up like oh no poor tenz, he didnt get a proper chance but he's the one that benched himself. his hearts obviously not in tier 1 comp tried it twice in two different games and benched himself both times.
2021-03-02 08:04
8 replies
in csgo benched himself because of different views, in valorant benched himself because online sucks
2021-03-02 08:53
7 replies
#88
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Spain N0Love
If you are a 17yo rookie with no experience and you have 'different views' from your IGL who is daps it means you're an arrogant little bitch
2021-03-02 09:24
3 replies
No, it means you have "different views from your IGL who is daps." Having different views from someone doesn't mean you think you're better than them or more qualified.
2021-03-02 09:41
2 replies
Hes an arrogant little bitch
2021-03-02 12:59
1 reply
little harsh but yes he had bad personality issues which conflicted with daps and his team
2021-03-02 18:09
imagine saying online sucks in a game that has never had LAN
2021-03-02 17:13
2 replies
aside from that its not like if he consistently attended lans in cs, the only lan he attended more than once was like fragadelphia
2021-03-02 18:09
his words, not mine
2021-03-03 06:35
+1
2021-03-02 12:39
#3
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Estonia whosmans
anyone can do anything with enough time
2021-03-02 07:15
40 replies
Disagree.
2021-03-02 07:19
6 replies
#13
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Estonia whosmans
ur dumb then
2021-03-02 07:22
5 replies
No matter how much time you spend working on your craft, you may simply lack the talent to achieve what you want.
2021-03-02 07:25
4 replies
0/8
2021-03-02 08:08
+1
2021-03-02 10:11
#114
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Estonia whosmans
no such thing as talent except for what you make for yourself with sheer diligence. Acting like some endeavors are inherently impossible is just an excuse for not doing more
2021-03-02 14:49
0/8
2021-03-02 18:17
0/8
2021-03-02 07:21
are you 10 i just realized you sound like an anime protagonist lmao
2021-03-02 08:46
31 replies
#115
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Estonia whosmans
delusional
2021-03-02 14:50
30 replies
yes you are delusional what if i dont have a leg, do you think i got a chance to be a professional soccer player?
2021-03-02 14:53
29 replies
#122
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Estonia whosmans
if ur physically or genetically impaired then obviously that is an exception lol, but nothing other than major faults will inhibit you from reaching your goal
2021-03-02 15:04
28 replies
everyone has their own body and brains, if im an average person i could try lets say make a huge innovation that would change the world and shit but even if i dedicate my whole life to that there is no guarantee it will happen and it will probably not happen because im just an average person
2021-03-02 15:09
27 replies
#128
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Estonia whosmans
nah i disagree, look at historical examples to affirm that narrative
2021-03-02 15:47
26 replies
cool mate nah i disagree he says use your brain for a moment you only know of these historical examples because they succeed, what about people, who didnt?
2021-03-02 16:06
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#132
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Estonia whosmans
the people that didn't did not try hard enough, as simple as that
2021-03-02 17:10
3 replies
call me after you are an adult
2021-03-02 17:20
1 reply
#139
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Estonia whosmans
already one
2021-03-02 18:05
lmao you didnt even get my point there i think you are the future nobel prize laureate jorsh here arent you
2021-03-02 18:30
like thats so funny i bet you dont know any people who have succeed in their pursuit and have achieved something truly great, but i know people who wasted years of their lifes doing a thing, sucrificing their relationships, money, time, health mental and physical and ended up with nothing or so i would love to see you saying them something like you shoulve pushed harder mate or you just havent put up enough time
2021-03-02 16:11
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#138
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Estonia whosmans
my biggest regret in life is that I don't try hard enough, which is why ik to tell people to not be like me. During my last year of high school, despite working hard to maintain perfect grades and test scores in years prior, I messed up my last year, overworking myself and getting involved with some adversities with the police. In the end, I didn't work hard, I let the bad situation get to me and I failed to move forward. Anyone that finds themselves in my situation, where everything they've worked for collapses with one mistake, knows that they should have just avoided that mistake as everyone else did. I don't blame my dispositions or my environment, I only blame myself for not working harder and thinking Same situation ensued with cs. I'm not able to correctly identify my mistakes or invest as much time as pros do, so I shouldn't ever be a pro as a result. Only those that work the hardest deserve to succeed, but I am not the hardest working therefore I don't deserve to be pro. I will just be hard stuck lv 10 trash forever, but I know that if someone worked harder than me, capitalizing on more opportunities and pursuing results differently, they would prevail. The only issue is me not grinding forward, as it is for everyone else that fails Everyone that succeeds works hard, everyone that works hard succeeds in some way. Everyone always wants more, so in the end we are all unfulfilled. You can reach certain points and stride higher, but you have to sacrifice a lot to do it. Furthermore, it is possible to do anything, but extraordinarily difficult, so anyone that wants to achieve a goal has to weigh their opportunity costs
2021-03-02 18:04
19 replies
tldr?
2021-03-02 18:06
Everyone that succeeds works hard, everyone that works hard succeeds in some way thats so not true im sure you are just a kid so thats fine
2021-03-02 18:07
17 replies
#142
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Estonia whosmans
it is very true, factors like high iq don't mean anything when there are people working as farmers with the highest iqs in the world lmao, because all that matters is how much those individuals work towards a goal
2021-03-02 18:08
16 replies
call me when you conquer the world with your hardwork bro
2021-03-02 18:09
10 replies
#147
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Estonia whosmans
if you think i can do that you didn't read what i wrote xd no point in arguing with someone that can't grasp the basis of my argument
2021-03-02 18:09
9 replies
there is no argument, you talk nonsense, you dont understand basic stuff thats why i think you are just a kid and i should not even read any of your comments that are bigger than 4 lines
2021-03-02 18:11
8 replies
#153
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Estonia whosmans
you are in denial because you are living with your parents achieving nothing but blaming the world around you when you haven't done anything to change your own life
2021-03-02 18:12
7 replies
im living solo whats now
2021-03-02 18:12
bro fuck off you are a fun of a guy with a nickname suicide there is no way you are not a kid ima head out
2021-03-02 18:14
5 replies
#161
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Estonia whosmans
hf being a failure that blames everyone but themselves then
2021-03-02 18:14
4 replies
where did i blame any1 dude tell me im begging you
2021-03-02 18:15
3 replies
#163
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Estonia whosmans
strongly implied by your baseless denial of my argument
2021-03-02 18:16
2 replies
can you reply with number of my comment where i blamed sombody?
2021-03-02 18:17
you shit yourself when you said i am living with my parents and being a failure, now you are shitting yourself with me blaming everybody, may be just stop shitting yourself and admit that you are a salty tard? you are just making it more embarassing for yourself everytime you reply
2021-03-02 18:18
dont forget to bring your friend jorsh who is dumb as a rock but got a nobel prize just because he is such a go getter
2021-03-02 18:10
4 replies
#151
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Estonia whosmans
no point in arguing with someone that can't grasp the basis of my argument, i cant do anything about illiteracy
2021-03-02 18:11
1 reply
dont forget to call me
2021-03-02 18:12
remember that the highest iq that was ever recorded achieved basically nothing
2021-03-03 07:15
1 reply
do you know what iq is?
2021-03-03 08:29
Ok mens)) but he is washed now(( and valarante player(((
2021-03-02 07:16
good aim =/= good player
2021-03-02 07:16
9 replies
did u read my post
2021-03-02 07:17
8 replies
nope
2021-03-02 07:34
7 replies
then get out
2021-03-02 07:34
4 replies
no
2021-03-02 07:39
3 replies
#41
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Indonesia lumayan
get out bro
2021-03-02 08:14
2 replies
i refuse
2021-03-02 08:18
1 reply
man nobody wants to see you here
2021-03-02 08:47
Lmao
2021-03-02 09:16
hahhahahhaa
2021-03-02 18:13
#6
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China SwooksarV2
Maybe if the got more experience playing pro. He had some really nice clips during is short pro career.
2021-03-02 07:17
4 replies
yeah he had absolutely insane aim in terms of just the general look of it. Reminded me of twistzz or NiKo. Sadly his game wasn't developed further than that.
2021-03-02 07:48
3 replies
#42
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Indonesia lumayan
and... during the time before he was kicked.... he just streaming like... trying new sens... trying new resolution... fuck that shit man he wasnt taking cs that seriously
2021-03-02 08:18
2 replies
Since when is trying new settings a bad thing and an indicator he isn't taking CS that seriously?
2021-03-02 09:27
1 reply
#104
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Indonesia lumayan
lol, dude, his place in cloud9 is still not stable, he didnt meet his expectation, ofc he should focus and his training . if u watched his stream back then, on monday he try new sens, tuesday he try new resolution, wednesday he try another sens/reso and so on so on
2021-03-02 12:34
tenz 5k hours of aim training doesn't matter when eu teams flash him and peek
2021-03-02 07:22
1 reply
+1
2021-03-02 09:24
he was a long way away if he was to become a top 20 player
2021-03-02 07:23
7 replies
Thing is though he only had 3 months and was like 18 or 17 years old at the time. He had plenty of time to be a really fucking good player if he kept grinding for 1 or 2 more years and with the support he wanted. From the eye test, he could be good in the right role. Keep in mind C9 used him as an entry fragger iirc. Feel free to quote me on that but I always saw him go out first on execs.
2021-03-02 07:34
6 replies
I never really watched those awful C9 teams at all tbh. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/13254/ten.. there is potential but it would have needed the right igl even then how high the potential is idk.
2021-03-02 07:38
5 replies
He was winning force buys singlehandedly with a deagle when put in power play positions like pit inferno and A default on mirage. I saw him do well on CT side but completely fall flat on T side which is the side you would usually micromanage your players the most. He would get AWPed or caught off guard regularly.
2021-03-02 07:41
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#49
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Andorra Buldogeusz
hltv.org/stats/players/individual/13254/.. 95 entry kills 96 entry deaths KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2021-03-02 08:34
1 reply
isn't that what he said lmao
2021-03-02 08:54
weird to think that whole c9 lineup had potential (except daps) and still went to valorant lol
2021-03-02 18:21
1 reply
well auti was washed and koosta only showed it in GenG for a bit. mixwell was dead for a while at that point
2021-03-02 18:24
stopped at the end of the first sentence
2021-03-02 07:33
1 reply
hopefully you mean "stopped being an idiot"
2021-03-02 08:01
Valorant's materials are actually csgo's discarded materials. Tenz was all aim no Brain or in short perfect for RIomegalulT's cartoon game.
2021-03-02 07:34
ppl said same about shrood, but he was never in top 20, also shrood was 10x tenz btw
2021-03-02 07:36
20 replies
shroud has times in his career where he was a top 10 player but then slumped. At his peak he is a top 20 player for sure but consistently he never was or did have the achievements to warrant a top 20 placement.
2021-03-02 07:58
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That's such a bad bait. I said at his "PEAK". hltv.org/stats/players/matches/8349/shro.. You're being way too selective. He was mad inconsistent but his peak was undeniably a top 10 player in some of the matches he played vs great teams. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/8349/shro.. For 2016 against top 10 teams he had a solid 1.08 rating which is comparable to players who made the top 20 list that year.
2021-03-02 08:20
7 replies
no its actually you who is selective, picking up certain matches to prove your completely wrong point. i posted his whole event history(big events). by this logic literally every single player(hunden included) is top10 player in his peak which is utter nonsense. and what about rest of his stats that year? 1.04 vs top20 with more maps played so bigger sample and 1.02 vs top5? again, you just picked 1 stat to prove your wrong point. he wasnt top20 player that year shroud never was top20 and NOT EVEN CLOSE top top10 player. this is pure fact based on all kind of stats
2021-03-02 08:28
6 replies
Do you know what peak means? It doesn't mean the peak year of your career. It means a time period at which you are playing the best CS of your life. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/8349/shro.. This is shroud's peak. That's not my logic. Skillwise HUNDEN will never be a top 20 player but skillwise Shroud had periods in time where he was a top 10 player in terms of aim, gamesense, positioning etc. I don't mean just having a good game every now and then. You misunderstand my point and you're blinded purely by stats and no eye test whatsoever. You are looking at all time stats when I talk about peak. How bad of a bait is this?
2021-03-02 08:55
2 replies
few good matches isnt peak. thats good day/tournament which every player can have. hltv.org/stats/players/events/8349/shrou.. show me period where he peaked as top10 player...oh well you cant and eye ball test? ok now i know that you are delusional fanboy judging players bcs of freaking highlights so im done here. bye
2021-03-02 08:58
1 reply
"few good matches". Homie, I showed you 43 maps where he averaged a 1.12 rating which in 2016 was on par with players who made the top 10 that year over a period of 5-6 months.
2021-03-02 09:02
Can you read? He literally wrote "peak" in his comment
2021-03-02 08:58
2 replies
#91
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Portugal CRMN1
Bro, that isn't that relevant. To be a top tier player you have to play top tier tournaments and be consistent with your numbers against these teams. TenZ was undeniably pretty skilled and mechanical but if he lacks mentality and consistency, what does that matter? This is a general pov, taking tenz out of the equation, but comparing a player's "peak" to another player isn't that logical. Cadian could make top 10 if he kept his 3 month peak. Xantares didn't even make it this year. Let's stop considering peak performances as a method to describe a player as good or bad. Everyone is good on his peak.
2021-03-02 09:28
1 reply
ok, but his comment said peak. Idc what your opinion is on whether peaks are a good point of measure, but the fact remains that he said peak and the other guy completely ignored that
2021-03-02 09:48
did you just coppied his whole career stats lmao what
2021-03-02 08:49
9 replies
and i also showed his whole event history(big events). show me in which period he was top10 player and please...for god sake please dont say 1 event...
2021-03-02 08:50
8 replies
i never said anything like that dude above said that at his peek shroud was top 20 player and you just copied his whole career stats lmao
2021-03-02 08:55
7 replies
and i also copied another link where you can see all events. is it rly that hard to look at both links and think about it?
2021-03-02 08:55
6 replies
just tell me why did you do this i want you to admit you are a moron before you make this even more embarassing for yourself dude, dont make the wrong choice
2021-03-02 08:58
5 replies
"and i also copied another link where you can see all events" to show that he hadnt high peak. good matches here and there isnt peak
2021-03-02 08:59
4 replies
how the fuck stats of his whole career could prove the point of him not being a top 20 player at his peak? you made the wrong choice mate, why
2021-03-02 09:01
3 replies
you cant read or what? thats why i copied also his event stats so you can look even at certain periods separately.... hltv.org/stats/players/events/8349/shrou.. show me period where he was top10 player. link is from my OP since beginning
2021-03-02 09:03
2 replies
i dont care what you did after, you did thing x, i called you out, why are you talking about thing y i dont fucking get it
2021-03-02 09:13
1 reply
both links were in the same comment so i didnt add it after. if you cant open both links and do 1+1 thats not my problem...bye
2021-03-02 09:17
#27
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Finland Ninjamaa
Yea, he is kinda like Scream. They will both play the next few years in Valorant until they figure out how the game is played (Valorant equivalent of Astralis) and they will fade away as players
2021-03-02 07:46
BEST aimers? idk about that He had daps but they said he wouldn't follow calls and thought he had better strats than the team so pretty much he stopped himself from developing
2021-03-02 07:48
8 replies
I mean he was put on as entry frag by daps because of his insane aim however it's fair to say it's understandable he wasn't fond of being put into the hardest role in the game in terms of fragging. I'm not sure where you got the notion he thought he had better strats or he wouldn't follow calls though. Could you send me a source?
2021-03-02 07:54
7 replies
Since when is entryfragging the hardest role in terms of fragging? That must be the support role
2021-03-02 08:05
5 replies
Entry fragging is a form of the support role however it isn't as dynamic as a general all-around support, which makes it harder. It is hardest at least for my money because as the first one out, you need to be the one to hit the instant headshot every single time and correctly predict an enemy's position which at the top level is almost impossible considering how meta off-angles are and how good everyone is at playing around smokes and utility. Entry fragging is also reliant on how good your supportive flashes and utility is alongside your strategies. That is the reason why dupreeh and magisk are a great entry duo. They have the two best supports of all time in CSGO in the form of xyp9x and gla1ve on their team alongside an extremely good strat-book. It wasn't anything like an aggressive lurk which is a variation on the entry role in a way that has more freedom and is far easier to succeed in which is what players like NiKo are great at doing. In executes they would send tenz out and he would get AWPed or shot from an off-angle without a chance to react.
2021-03-02 08:29
who the fuck have told you this nonsense lmao
2021-03-02 08:56
3 replies
I don't blame him. When you look at players like sanji you do feel as though they've been hard done because of their role and it being associated with being a supportive element.
2021-03-02 09:03
2 replies
its just different teams use roles differently there are sanjis who sucrifice everything for the team as supports and there are boom4chs who do the same as entries but overall in most teams entry fraggers are the dudes who get the bitch role, not supports and i think its not even close
2021-03-02 09:12
1 reply
Agreed. Especially on teams with poor supportive players and strategies.
2021-03-02 09:28
youtube.com/watch?v=CEFTlwfvioE clip from his stream where he explains it Also anyone watching C9 in that era can remember TenZ trying to lurk every round and dying, not just because his team sent him in as an entry. It makes sense that one would think entry is the hardest role from watching him though, because according to daps he was not very good at the role
2021-03-02 17:41
didnt read, but can confirm he is autistic af and weird too, kinda scary combo tbh
2021-03-02 07:49
0/8. the most overrated washed up bot
2021-03-02 08:11
2 replies
your life is literally typing 0/8 on every post.
2021-03-02 08:20
1 reply
ok loli
2021-03-03 08:36
0.90 rating in c9 one of the best nt
2021-03-02 08:30
1 reply
zzzz
2021-03-02 10:08
I agree. His mechanical skill was off the charts, one of the best in Na if not the best. An IGL micromanaging him would probably have produced a monster of a player who could carry a team. But the scenario of s1mple probably could have also arisen, where it was 1 v 9 for s1mple at some points in the past Na'vi. So we will never know, but for sure one of the best talents in CSGO.
2021-03-02 08:37
2 replies
Thing is though he could have gone international or to a different NA squad. For s1mple you are pretty much stuck in CIS unless you want to be uncomfortable as he stated he was playing in NA.
2021-03-02 09:24
1 reply
Yeah... So much freaking potential. We all saw how good he was in his short but rather dominating Valorant pro career. No one could touch him. He carried Cloud 9 on his bac and went on a rampage. Only if he waited just a bit longer. Could have joined O.G and been the firepower AleksiB needed to destroy the entire scene with his great IGLing (Highly exaggerated here but you never know xD)
2021-03-03 02:23
IF I remember correctly, aim wise and mechanical skill, no doubt he is insane. But when he was on C9 he was terrible. This could have been for many of reasons but I remember him crying about him getting benched and he said that their playstyle didn't suit him or his playstyle didn't suit. Something along that. He is cool and all but always found him a bit of a weirdo when he wore an anime girl stress on stream.
2021-03-02 08:42
maybe. but he made way more money in valorant anyways. I think he would still be making more in valorant than being on any top team in csgo.
2021-03-02 08:42
no he is bot
2021-03-02 08:48
#68
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Ukraine Mykolkaa
Omg he got big aim botz score so he must be good! No. He had good aim but sucked at the actual game. I bet that there are 3k elo kids that would easily outaim any astralis player in a 1vs1 but if you got 5 of these 3k elo kids in a team they would loose 32-0 against a slumping astralis. No one is obliged to teach the kid how to play. He should know the basics already if he’s going to play in a top 20 team
2021-03-02 08:59
4 replies
Mate. He was playing against the best teams in the world. Not just top 20 teams. Some of the players he was going up against had almost 20x the experience he had. Read my other replies and you understand my gist. He was put into entry role by an IGL who was trying something different as to what he had done in other teams. A lot of the pro players on top teams were micromanaged by great minds when they were coming up. Examples are Frozen, rpk (after he unretired), bymas, etc. Also on your last point. "No one is obliged to teach the kid how to play". Mate what is the point of bringing up a talented aimer from a PUG system or from tier 2 just to make him completely play alone deserted. Look at what FaZe did to bymas. They gave him olof's roles and completely fucked him in terms of what roles suited him. If you are going to take a gamble on upcoming talent from PUGs or tier 2/3 then you better try your best to realise that talent. It's up to your surroundings as well. It's the reason why Denmark's scene is so strong. HUNDEN, ave etc are pillars of that scene's development.
2021-03-02 09:10
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#78
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Ukraine Mykolkaa
True. Still, no one is or was obliged to micromanage him. And no, frozen or rpk were not micromanaged like you said. Rpk already had the gamesense necessary and he just needed to get used to a new game. Frozen was already a superb player when he joined. They were also put into good positions so that they can perform while trying to understand how the game works on a higher level. But you are still undermining the amount of work they did to play the way they are playing now. It wasn't about “micromanaging”, it was about watching insane amounts of demos and practicing every single day. This is what tenz didn't do. He wanted to perform and he wanted that immediately. Bymas was indeed micromanaged but it was done by karrigan, arguably the best igl in the world. Daps is nowhere near karrigan in terms of knowledge and I’m not even sure he has the skill to micromanage this way. If you bring a kid from FPL you expect him to learn from you and do his part. Tenz didn't do that. Look at misuta, b1t, ropz, frozen, electronic etc etc. They joined and did MASSIVE amounts of work to get to where they are. No one micromanaged them but no one was expecting them to perform right away either. Tenz just tried doing his thing and completely failed so they removed him
2021-03-02 09:16
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No. Rpk was literally being told by ex6tenz how to play the game as he went along. He has developed since then but at the beginning he was micromanaged hard. I agree on Frozen but from Mouz's comms showed in videos like at EPL S10 you can hear karrigan tell Frozen what to do. Also that's why I think that if a team like Mouz picked up Tenz he could have been pretty good. Especially under Karrigan. I would never advise anyone to play in Cloud9. Especially after 2019 considering how shit and volatile the roster is. I also agree he should've done his part but that cloud9 roster as a whole was literally hopeless and I think everyone was mailing it in tbh.
2021-03-02 09:20
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#85
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Ukraine Mykolkaa
IGLs tell their players what to do. It’s not micromanaging, it’s mid-round calls. Micromanaging is when almost all decisions of a specific player during rounds are called out by the IGL. The only cases of this that I know of is bymas and now honda in furia
2021-03-02 09:21
Cheater lolicon kid
2021-03-02 09:09
overrated af
2021-03-02 09:10
Sure he’s got nice aim but who’s willing to take on w little weed from NA just because he can shoot aim botz fast. If I’m a good IGL and daps is one of them but he needs faith in his team and he was obviously given none, I wouldn’t want to teach some kid half the game which would take a year plus just so he could leave the team and go someplace better.
2021-03-02 09:22
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"The way we've been trying to approach the team has been more of a... it's less of me doing everything with a coach, it's more people have to have some sort of self-reliance on each individual to create structure". Daps is a pretty good IGL but it sounds like he was trying a more puggy style and admitted he wanted to try something different as to what he did in NRG which worked out pretty well in developing that core of EG. If I was tenz, I would want daps to stick to the style that worked out for him and that he's used to instead of gambling on a new approach to the game. It's understandable for a young player like tenz to lose faith though. He was immediately thrust into tier 1 playing vs top 10 teams and made to be self reliant as an entry fragger by his IGL and coach. Thing is as well though, he might not leave the team if daps micromanages him and makes him into a good player. He might be motivated and the results improve. If he still leaves then it's not so bad because at least you tried your best to do what that talent felt comfortable being brought up in so you could win. I think it's whack that you don't try to nurture the talent in that team as much as you can because you don't want him to leave in the future because he might become too good for the team.
2021-03-02 09:35
He blew up in Valorant. One of if not the best player. Sad to see him leave CS, but career wise he absolutely made the right choice, and good for him. He never would be as big as he is now if he stayed in CS.
2021-03-02 09:38
He was inconsistent as shit
2021-03-02 09:39
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mhm
2021-03-02 09:41
I really couldn't care less about him. He fucked his own career up and then left like a little pussy.
2021-03-02 10:12
z gen scream only good at aiming
2021-03-02 12:35
who
2021-03-02 12:37
No lol. Pure aim in CS nowadays will only get you so far. He would've probably been like s0m or Subroza, good but unable to get into a top top team
2021-03-02 12:42
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That's why I said if an IGL was able to develop his gamesense through micromanaging and a proper team structure he could be lethal. Imagine those mechanics if he was able to apply them smartly but never got the chance as he was hard entry quite often.
2021-03-02 12:47
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igls aint got time for micromanaging nowadays. they got to analyse demos , structure the team, worry our their own performance, deal with internal issues... also you really think tenz has the drive for that, when he was only a valorant pro for like 5 months? his aim is awesome but i personally doubt that he would've ever made a top top team like liquid or EG.
2021-03-02 12:51
We'll never know. He played for too short to speculate.
2021-03-02 13:06
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Brazil pcR
Real insane aim, what game will he play now?
2021-03-02 14:53
Aim lab pro player =/= CSGO pro player
2021-03-02 14:57
who is tenz ?
2021-03-02 14:58
being top player < have 20k every stream on twitch,
2021-03-02 15:01
#123
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North America MinusElo
gg
2021-03-02 15:06
Nah he has no drive, hes a beta with no ambitions. he quit csgo after a couple of months, he quit valorant after a couple of months. Hes not made for competition
2021-03-02 15:06
#126
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Sweden Albikin
He only had aim like many other players, he would probably never be the best but could be good
2021-03-02 15:09
Tenz has always been overrated and has proven even in Valorant he cannot work in a team environment. His talent has never been an issue, it's mainly because he's a selfish prick who cannot work in any system. Streaming has always been the way he was going to go forward, even in Valorant where he was truly a top talent but still ended up not working out in a team.
2021-03-02 16:11
5 000 hours in aim botz =/= being good
2021-03-02 17:21
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Netherlands staticNL
he lacks gamesense and competitive drive. just being an aimer isnt enough
2021-03-02 18:09
so basically obo but worst like wayyyy worst
2021-03-02 18:10
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*Twistzz Except waayyy worse mental. Twistzz depressed and go to EU for Gf also hair. oBo go to murica for mom Tenz go to valorant cuz trash
2021-03-02 18:13
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nice roast tenz is just one of those kid with skill that failed no biggy it happens alot of time i mean ethan barely made it
2021-03-03 10:46
#157
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United Kingdom OneBinG_
Daps tried to do this but TenZ said no and quit the team He retired from Valorant too because he didn't wanna play on a team The kid just wants to stream, thats why he didn't go big.
2021-03-02 18:13
you created this thread after watching tenzs montage?
2021-03-02 18:17
if you actually watched tenz while he played in c9 you would definitely not think this whatsoever
2021-03-03 06:48
Dude Niko once said if he can pick between aim and gamesense/teamwork he would definitely pick the latter one. The reason being aim is very easy to practice and it will for sure improves by time. Maybe when you look at TenZ you think he has insane aim but many other young csgo players are having the same aim if not better: Ropz, Yekindar, Grim, etc.. Aim is something that everyone can practice but game sense is sth very different.
2021-03-03 07:00
Nah m8 you can't aim your way to win in CS
2021-03-03 07:11
oh the guy that played on clown9
2021-03-03 07:25
#180
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Georgia Megobari
He's overrated player
2021-03-03 07:28
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