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The gunplay in the game is so much better than GO. No randomness, can't abuse spray all the time. Actually forces you to use different firing styles on different ranges. Deagle isn't a mid range shotgun etc.
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you know what i mean. spray is too strong in CS:GO, whereas in 1.6 you can't use it that well on long range and transfers actually take skill.
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there is 8 different spray patterns for the AK in 1.6. The skill is picking up on which spray it is after 4 bullets roughly.
Don't know man the games are way too different from each other. Back in 2012 after playing 1.6 for so long i found it hard to shoot in csgo but nowadays it's the other way around i can barely spray in 1.6 anymore. One thing i noticed is that people tend to spray a lot more in csgo whereas in 1.6 short bursts or tapping was more popular especially with the ak.
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also many more noobs in csgo (including myself)
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+1 Indeed!
I are agrees in everyhing you said..
But I do think tapping is decent in csgo. I do it alot, especially with m4a4
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yes if it s always the same randomness pattern, it feel like that.. at least in mid range , with the right combinaison of strafe move and shot time , i one deag almost every time, just long A on dust 2 is what i call long range and there it feel like luck is involved , but mid range or short range it dosen t feel that random
peak hltv comment xD
rofl
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"Abuse spray" have to add that to my list lol. At this point it seems that everything can be abused
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you forgot the gamesense abusers
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Wtf how could you forget about utility abusers ffs.
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fucking positioning abusers man. camping and thinking theyre good.
xD
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No they arent :v
also you can ran like last guy youtu.be/H6tJryOH5lw?t=126
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It was in 2013-14. They were forcing ppl to move to CSGO
2013 most of proffesional teams switched to CSGO, its year when CS 1.6 died officially without any events @ end of year
csgo is way way better in that regard. Being skilled at spraying on different ranges with different guns is such a difficult thing to master that you see big differences even on the pro level. It's a beautiful thing to see when someone like xantares is advantaged in fights where he hits long range head shots with a crazy difficult spray when other pros would just tap away in the same situation
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One taps are the most aesthetic thing in CS and always have been.
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One taps, sure. But most of the time people don't hit with their first bullet when tapping away and in that case it doesn't look very aesthetic at all.
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ok?
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You're saying most people don't hit their 1 taps so it doesn't look very aesthetic at all, well no shit mate..... but when people do pull it off it's the most aesthetic thing in the game.
I like CSGO I like 1.6.
It is true that spraying is viable at any range in CSGO.
There are 2 things annoy me the most about CSGO.
movement and utility.
Movement is self explanatory.
Utility is too strong it takes fun out of the game for me personally, I know people love the "tactical side of it but really I just see it as a momentum stopper.
It's like T side, bait utility, wait bait it again wait and hit site with last bit of utility..
The sprites and animations are terrible with it too, one way smokes or mollies should not exist in a high level game like CS, this is where Valorant nailed their graphics.
Their were more unique play styles due to movement imo you can see here.
youtu.be/UUYMtQFXJqs
youtu.be/LxnTr8ogogQ
youtu.be/TPyF9dxikuQ
youtu.be/gC4FJH6Oem0
youtu.be/cjcJ2p6LII4
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+1 (I'd also add netcode)
Movement YES
Utility is very well adjusted to this day imo.
He genades makes decent damage, maybe a bit to little. But a good thing is that it cant make damage through walls like in 1.6. I miss that it dosent, but its more realistic
Flashbangs time is better in csgo, where in 1.6 you could be white for 5-6 seconds.
1 smoke in csgo can block visibility completely, while you had to throw 2-3 of them in 1.6 to do the same. I know there were difference in 16 bit and 32 bit but still.
Cant compare molotovs, but it a nice feature in csgo.
So i would say the Utility works much better in csgo. And that comes from a dude that has 1.6 close to my heart
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I respect your opinion.
"but it's more realistic" realism in games = less fun in games imo.
What you're saying about utility is exactly my point, it's too powerful for my person taste and it's my firm belief it creates a more equal playing field based off tactics rather than skill, as mention, there's nothing skillful about lining up a smoke, there's nothing skillful about one way smokes/mollies, there's nothing skillful about smoke defuses, there's nothing skillful about molly bomb and run away.
I think the utility heavily slows down the game too much but hey I guess it's tactical and people really like that.
I'm not saying it makes the game complete shit I just prefer games with a more open feel, that's all
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what's wrong about it? i can 2/3 shot multiple guys into the body within one round on mid range when i force buy. not to mention SMGs are also incredibly OP in close range fights in CS:GO when you just run, A/D and spray and pray.
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i miss accurate quickscopes(only way i used awp),real bhop, 90% of map being wallbangable, old deagle and also 100 fps gameplay was so smooth.
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Awp would be far too powerful if it was like it was in 1.6 in CSGO due to the bigger models and map to model ratio plus the lack of wall bangable walls.
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But it would be much more fun to watch, because old awp with accurate quickscope encouraged fast and aggressive on-the-move playstyle which i was a big fan of.
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I played 1.5 ever since the day it was available in my country, but i don't really remember it being faster than in 1.6 ngl. Can't blame myself tho, been a while.
1.3 was best of all time , about skill reward, now you have better nades and stuff.. but the skill part went down in term of mouvement and aim, for 1.3 players , 1.5 and 1.6 are total shit, cs source was totally crap and cs go would be as crap, most players from beta to 1.3 left this game at 1.4 / 1.5 cause they made the game more and more noob friendly in term of individual skill
The CS formula was perfected in 1.6 and it has never been done justice since then, in my opinion.
Spray was complicated, yet fluid.
Wall-banging spots were littered everywhere but finding that sweet spot to spam was beautiful when done correctly.
The smokes were a bit wonky and easily transparent in a particular way but were great for smoking mid-double-doors on d2.
The flashbangs were the brightest thing known to mankind, it was like collecting the invulnerability powerup in the classic DOOM games of 1993/1994, you were flashed for what felt like a lifetime, which made avoiding them all the more rewarding.
The crouching mechanic was broken and could be tapped infinitely, leading to some awesome, yet unfair gun-battles.
The movement in 1.6 is as you'd probably expect - bunny-hopping madness, especially with scripts.
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'especially with scripts' - 3 words from you and I concluded you are newbie.
CS 1.6 is mastermind game for CSGO.
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lul +1
"No randomness" hahahahaha nostalgia is rotting your brain.
there is lot of randmoness but it take skill to minimize it ,thats what make most difference between a very good player and just a decent one, like with the awp and fast scope keeping more or less accuracy with the way of shooting and moving , very good players from the 1.6 days would destroy you even with a deagle at almost any range unless you kill them before, but lets say you have 3 or 4 bullets deag time before beeing dead at mid/ long range if not it s good luck you have . these randmoness make the game more real i guess.. but players from earlier version didn t like that.. specially when it has been added to the jump
i prefer source all day. But I do agree with you about the gun play being better than go
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deagle was more consistent in 1.6 than it is in CSGO lol,
But yeah the spray patterns in CSGO are consistent while 1.6 had a few different ones, however you could always bunch up the bullets fairly easy in 1.6
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"no randomness"
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA M8 the SPRAYS ARENT CONSISTENT IN 1.6 LMAO
best game ever created..
1.6 didn't even have proper spray patterns?????????????????????
whole gunplay was dogshit compared to CSGO
but yeah people who couldn't adapt to GO will say that 1.6 is superior bruh yall just suck dick go play a game with no esport scene and russian hvh servers :v:
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+1 Hugoo!
Best game ever created. On competitive and amateur level.
1.6 the game where you grenades slide along walls in a retarded way. people abuse the crouch hop thing. tapping with weapons was way better in 1.6 as most of the time people slowed down so much when getting hit or u had to stand still to be accurate. in csgo u have a few different options. u can croush spray while moving and still be accurate people move. also spraying in csgo is so much easier cos there is 1 spray pattern to learn. in 1.6 it was like 4 random ones that u might get lucky and get the really easy to control one.
Even the ones that absolutely loves 1.6 have to admit that it sucks now. Valve completely ruined the game with the linux update.. even zonic has mentioned it on multiple occasions.
youtu.be/5tiDtoAlK-Q?t=1472
Notice how he says Valve intentionally broke 1.6 to lure the playerbase to CS:GO, with a completely straight face. I don't think he's entirely wrong either.. they didn't dare touch the game until CS:GO came out, with barely any updates for a decade, and when they did update it they broke it.
Especially the part about how the spray is broken is true.
I still find the old 1.6 to be better than CS:GO. I even found 1.5 better to a certain degree, but the game is completely buried now.
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Valve destroyed CS 1.6 in 2013-14. You are right, all they wanted was players pool to switch to CSGO. There wasn't CS 1.6 proffesional scene in 2013, because it was transition period to CSGO. CS 1.6 proffesional scene died in 2013 when 85% of pro-teams switched to CSGO. I liked CSGO untill 2015-16, then valve fucked it and made tapping game with 1 spray pattern, fucking disgrace.
Be honest, CS 1.6 > CSGO in terms of skill and everything else. CSGO has better graphics that's all
Bytheway I'm hard lover of CS 1.6
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There was no investment anymore.. Valve decided to shutdown proffesional scene with moves fast than lightning via cancelling most important events in a year. Others were just following steps of Valve.. About community, CS 1.6 had one of the best community ever on this planet with 1% of toxicity and 99% of true game lovers but we were so powerless to do anything to save CS1.6 when Valve started updating CS 1.6 in 2013-14. This site was good to be part of it untill 2015-16 when new narco generation came here from everywhere and destroyed HLTV.org. Things weren't bad as u think my friend
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I don't think things were bad at all, I just still wonder why it wasn't a much bigger issue for the community when it happened.
But yeah the community was amazing before the MLG-Noscope/smoke weed everyday/Illuminati clown fiesta started happening.. even with all the 1.6-Source infighting.
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It was different back in time - can't explain because doesn't exist proper words to say it ofcourse in positive mind. Bytheway by many world magazines enormous Internet era is starting in 2016/17 even people were using Internet since 90's. So it's normal to say we had not strength to do something for saving CS 1.6 even it was big issue for us, even so much people knew what is valve doing
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I get that it was not possible to make Valve do anything, the only thing I'm wondering is why I didn't see more outrage in the community in general. Y'know.. threads complaining about it and making a big deal out of it.
The only thing I really noticed was the countless of guides and threads talking about the changes in rates and settings and how to change it properly.
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I will repeat.. community wasn't toxic and csgo was not bad game @ beggining. We didn't know Valve gonna make shit game of CSGO after 2016 with tapping style and 1 pattern spray. Just remember this, csgo gonna die in year when biggest prize of tournament will be 100K splitted because its trash game and most of players are playing it strictly for money. Only money investment is holding CSGO on its feets.
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"csgo was not bad game @ beggining"
It absolutely was, it was a pile of garbage the first year and arguably the first two years. Completely broken guns, glitches and ridiculously bad models.. not to mention the molotovs getting stuck in the air and being completely overpowered. I have no idea what you're talking about there
But you're right that the community was way, WAY better.
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That's my perception, point of view. I think I'm not wrong. You are right, It had many bugs but were fixed on-time.
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I think you are just remembering it wrong. Molotovs weren't even (relatively) fixed until after it was introduced into professional play. Complete clown fiesta.
Valve basically had no idea what they were doing.. but they did indeed fix the game after a while.. but it took a long damn time.
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Molotov was never part of CS1. 6/CSS so that's why I don't give a s*** about it. I'm talking about weapons and stuff with its old sounds, spraying patterns, recoil etc. Valve is still lost, even in 2021. New management is so bad, i can confirm 100%
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Nah, you are wrong ♨️🙂 I've tested all patches
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Well now I know you're clueless. There's even multiple videos made before 2015 that prove csgo had 1 spray pattern.
youtu.be/Pa5QfRNlSp0?t=94
youtube.com/watch?v=lJW50b4z7u0
You can even download the 2013 version of csgo on steam that easiliy proves you wrong.
100% this happened, no updates in like 10 years, CSGO was released and a few months after with a declining player base out comes this 1.6 update that ruined 1.6.
That still wasn't enough for CSGO to grow until skin's came out, skins saved CSGO.
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I feel like 1.6's greatest strength was its movement mechanics
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Volvo should keep all the movement from CS 1.6 except ducking and GO would be so much better.
I honestly miss those days soooooo bad. I remember coming home from school almost every day and playing cs on my big old CRT monitor and a sheet of paper for a better grip for the ball mouse. I sometimes played with the keyboard in my lab and the mouse next to the monitor instead of in front so I could play closer to the monitor. My internet was connected to the phone line so when a call came in my game would disconnect and that was the most frustrating thing imaginable at that time. My back and neck are still recovering from that sitting position but it was all worth it.
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AWP also was better in 1.6 imo, and no spyring all the time to, so actions like these were something special. Do we have something like this in CS:GO ?
youtube.com/watch?v=9EG2NEJbfrs&ab_chann..
youtube.com/watch?v=qnCcjWGeuNM&ab_chann..
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I'm 37 years old and since 2002 I'm playing cs. Started with 1.5 version, and till today I play 1.6 with my old school mates. Most of us (mates) didn't play go verion yet but I play sometimes with my son and I can easily say that go version is much better, has advanced gun & movement techniques and well thought out one.
