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Why everyone seems to like VALORANT?
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Brazil fuNNycsgo 
I really can't understand why this game is so overrated, everything looks like an failed attempt of copying CS:GO, but trying SO MUCH to be different in many ways. I'm not talking about the graphics or the characters style, but about the mechanics and the maps in general. First of all, let's talk about the map design: looks like they rushed the mapping development and just put random covers in random spots, and the map is EXTREMELY confusing. I'm not even talking about the fact that there's maps with 3 BOMBSITES, it's like letting T's plant mid in mirage, this doesn't make sense and is just disbalanced in many ways. After this we've the shooting mechanics: god, why does every single rifle looks to have no spray? This combined with the fact that you can run and shoot (YES, YOU CAN RUN AND SHOOT AND HAVE LIKE 90% PRECISION) makes snipers almost useless. I don't even need to talk about the character's skills, right? TL;DR: valulrant is shit, go play CS
2021-03-03 16:07
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Females seem to like it more because it’s a much easier game
2021-03-03 16:08
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Switzerland Lemiwix
people like what they like imagine getting mad cus people like a different game than you LMAOOOO
2021-03-03 16:09
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
Can you arg why VALORANT is good instead of getting mad about a thread jerman?
2021-03-03 16:11
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Switzerland Lemiwix
its a videogame. its based on enjoyment and having fun. there is no arugement for any of this dumb shit
2021-03-03 16:12
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#10
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
I'm talking about the competitive scene, if you just want to enjoy the game why are you even here?
2021-03-03 16:13
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#24
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Competitive scene = Game on the highest level for money and entertainment Game is fun
2021-03-03 16:26
Developers actual give a shit about the game, Skill ceiling is higher, Devs actually make an attempt to balance the game, there is a variety to the maps with different features instead of plain a site - mid - b site set up. I can give more
2021-03-03 16:32
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Brazil medonhoso
"Skill ceiling is higher" LOL, you never reached lv 10 on faceit I bet.
2021-03-03 17:05
4 replies
you are most likely lvl 2 and rank c- on esea, you still also have yet to prove or give a reason to why any of my points are incorrect
2021-03-03 17:15
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#98
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Argentina Joedash
I doubt that the skill ceiling is higher than CS:GO. There's a reason why NA CSGO pros go to valorant and that's bcz the scene is easier than CSGO one.
2021-03-03 17:38
because people with developed brains usually support their own points. literally only retards say valorant has a higher skill ceiling... 1- hasnt been out long enough to really compare 2- the fact that there are skills etc instantly brings down the skill ceiling (realistically all your arguments in favour of valorant are gonna be the same retarded reasons fanboys say games like starcraft is harder than chess).
2021-03-03 17:51
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Brazil medonhoso
You think CSGO needs balancing atm? And valorant maps are copies of CSGO maps or atleast their formats ( Ascent = D2, Haven = Tuscan/Mill ). And btw im lv 20 GC ( most played plataform on SA ) and 7 Faceit.
2021-03-03 17:54
Laughed about maps statement Like,every valulrant map is 2 corridors from spawn,corridors to mid,corridors to plants.corridors,corridors,corridors Meanwhile every cs map is unique.Inferno requires great grenade management,while Dust2 requires high aim skills
2021-03-03 17:19
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Every CS is quite literally the same of what you just said with the exception of overpass not technically having a proper mid. CS maps are same thing just different colors and themes. You can still push sites in CS without utility if your aim is good. Valorant maps punish players for not using utility and abilities to push sites.
2021-03-03 17:28
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AXAXAXAXA Gn 4 spotted Good luck pushing sites on Inferno without nades only with aim! Also: -Train,Nuke -Mid Pick one
2021-03-03 17:34
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Argentina Joedash
So, you are telling me that rushing tunnels in overpass while they throw an incendiary, or banana, or T ramp on mirage, or long and so on is easy with aim but 0 utility? Astralis is laughing at you mate.
2021-03-03 17:40
There’s no way you actually think the skill ceiling is higher right? You’ve got to be trolling.
2021-03-03 17:23
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Being genuine, Val might require less aim but unlike CS, to be good at Val you have to have Aim and Brains. Aim isnt everything that goes into FPS. You can get by just fine in the CS pro scene by having no brains and aim but its almost impossible to get by in Val with no brains.
2021-03-03 17:34
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#112
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Brazil medonhoso
If you think you can constantly win in CSGO without brains it just proves my point that you never reached a high level in CSGO
2021-03-03 17:56
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+1 it's sad that this guy is not even baiting, he's prob the most retarded user I've seen and that's kinda expected from a valorant player lul
2021-03-04 18:21
wtf are you on about? valorant professional scene is made up of idiotic tier 4 na failed cs pro players, i dont understand how you could say they have brain when their intellect didnt stand out in the most retarded scene, isnt shazam in a top valorant team?? only reason valorant may have a higher skill ceiling in the future is cus its more likely to get big in asia. looking at what you said about utility and map design, imma guess youre just some silver who prefers the hand holding of valorant.
2021-03-03 17:57
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+1
2021-03-03 19:31
Dev actually give a shit: ofc they do, it is Riot, they've beed doing the same thing with LOL to compete with Dota 2 Skill ceiling is higher: literally csgo on training wheels with even wallhacks and ult that you can literally spam safely though every single wall or even across the map(Brimestone), Give extra lives and heals and also make extra walls(Sage), literally rush like an idiot in call of duty(Phoenix with the current run n gun meta) and can heal himself as well, literally have a wallhack kit and wallbang ult (Sova), a kit with 4 smokes that can show or even kill the enemy (Viper), ult is another wallhack and kit is from rb6 (Cypher), can heal over max health for a period of time and even invisibility with the ult which is basically steroids (Reyna) and many other super forgiving abilities that should NOT be anywhere near a game like this. Variety to maps: same dude who designed maps in cs (volcano) with the same layout, just slap some simple texture even a kid can do in paint and call it a day The game itself is the home for every former csgo pro who just can't compete anymore
2021-03-03 18:14
if i may ask why do you think he is mad when he asks you why you are mad? lul
2021-03-03 17:35
Imagine getting mad over someone not liking the game you like lmaooooo
2021-03-03 16:34
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Jordan Zereeni
cry is free valorant will kill csg omegalul
2021-03-03 16:09
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nt riot
2021-03-03 16:14
Both games are good /closed
2021-03-03 16:10
9 replies
0/8
2021-03-03 16:12
8 replies
ok true. valorant is better
2021-03-03 16:13
7 replies
personal preference
2021-03-03 17:24
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That's what I tried to say with #4 but it got dismissed as a 0/8 bait so I gave the user an actual 0/8 bait
2021-03-03 17:25
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
#8 edit: but i agree with #82
2021-03-03 17:27
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
2021-03-03 17:42
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Sorry but unless CSGO makes a better anti-cheat, I'll have to stay with Valorant, as it is superior from a developer's/programmer's perspective. But CSGO eSports are better than Valorant eSports that's for sure.
2021-03-03 17:45
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#104
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
2021-03-03 17:46
1 reply
Yeah faceit is better than mm, but if the game is being kept alive by 3rd party servers, it's already a sinister sign...
2021-03-03 17:56
cuz it's easy af game and all pros which left csgo for it were just noobs
2021-03-03 16:11
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#11
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
+1
2021-03-03 16:13
Those who can't compete in CSGO go to Valorant
2021-03-03 16:14
It's a different game. Your points are literally just complaining about how the game is different to csgo. I don't understand that. On one hand you are complaining about it copying csgo and the very next sentence you are listing things that give the game a completely different dynamic. Arguing like a shizophrenic person, 404 no logic to be found
2021-03-03 16:16
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
? When you copy something and changes its mechanics you are just trying to be different so you don’t be called a copier. I just said why these changes just makes the game worse. And yes, I can compare them as VALORANT have the same playstyle of CS:GO.
2021-03-03 16:24
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#26
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
In that sense every game copies another game but changes it. All of them involve shooting, must be copying Doom and Quake /s
2021-03-03 16:27
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#29
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
??????? I never said there was a problem with copying another game, the problem is when you change the mechanics lazily just to call it with a different name
2021-03-03 16:29
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#30
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
These changes do not make a game worse or better. That's a subjective taste and not on you to judge. A lot of people DO enjoy it.
2021-03-03 16:31
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#35
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
#27 Enjoy if you want, I'm talking about the professional scene and the game mechanics
2021-03-03 16:34
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#39
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
And the professional scene exists because people enjoy this game and play well. You cannot argue about the quality of an esports because it is all subjective. Just because it isn't CSGO doesn't mean it is bad. CSGO is not the standard.
2021-03-03 16:36
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#47
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
I am just criticizing the fact that they just changed csgo mechanics lazily to can gave it another name and do money with it. Never said that it's bad because isn't CSGO lol
2021-03-03 16:43
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#51
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
But you are also arguing on how it is so different from CSGO and so bad. All shooters are very similar, and just because it has similarities in the moving and shooting department doesnt mean it is the same game.
2021-03-03 16:47
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#53
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
2021-03-03 16:49
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#54
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
n1
2021-03-03 16:50
It becomes clear that you have no idea about valorant when you compare haven's b site with mirage mid. Also, stuff like "maps are more confusing" is just due to the fact that you probably put in 100 times more hours into csgo than you did into valorant. If someone who played 2k hours of valorant came to cs he would also say that ovp and nuke are confusing maps. It's not a proper argument.
2021-03-03 16:32
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I agree that the maps in valorant are not as interesting as csgo maps, but that doesn't mean they are confusing. Calling them confusing is unfair criticism because it comes from someone who is way more accustomed to the maps available in csgo.
2021-03-03 16:39
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#45
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
May you are right, but and the rest of the args?
2021-03-03 16:41
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Some mechanics like counter-strafing being toned down in valorant is not a bad thing imo. Yes. the game becomes easier for casual players because counter-strafing is not an intuitive thing to do, but I don't see why that is supposed to be a bad thing. Also, there is a very good reason for why it is a bit harder for a sniper to win a duel in valorant compared to csgo. In csgo, everyone has access to utility that is amazing at dealing with an awper. (that is also the reason why bad players complain about the awp all day long, they don't know how to use their tools to deal with a sniper) In valorant however, several agents don't have great ways to deal with snipers. The operator would be way too strong if you now give the same penalties that riflers have in csgo on top of that.
2021-03-03 16:51
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's personal preference. If other users like Valorant, then who are we to say that they are not allowed to enjoy that game? I've never played it but I can obviously see the appeal, even if I think the game is overrated.
2021-03-03 16:17
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#27
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
This is an arguing thread, this thread is not for who wants to play 4fun as it's turned to the competitive side of both games
2021-03-03 16:28
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#46
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
With all due respect, threads create discussion and provided arguments to assist with discussion, threads are not created specifically to make users argue. Heated debates and stressed points, fair enough but otherwise, if the discussion can remain civil, then all the better. Personally, I don't think the two games need to be compared to one another to create an interesting debate, as like I stated earlier, some users just like to play both for fun.
2021-03-03 16:42
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#52
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
The point is that I'm not talking about fun here, you are right that if you want you can play both and have fun with both of them. I'm just trying to understand why this game is overrated competitively talking, if you're an casual player you probably don't even care about the game mechanics, you just want to enjoy the game
2021-03-03 16:48
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#57
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
What's the difference between a competitive player and a casual player other than that one is way better and makes money off of being good?
2021-03-03 16:53
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
One who plays for fun and one who plays competitively, I guess. I think both should be the same thing, as I see the only reason to play and enjoy a game should be for fun.
2021-03-03 17:19
#59
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
A valid point. I personally think the game is overrated... It is talked about as the next "big thing" to kill CS:GO, yet from my experiences with the player-base and critics, most describe the game as generic and "CS:GO is better", even though you should take these opinions with a pinch of salt. I like watching Valorant but I don't think I could ever play it.
2021-03-03 16:54
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#61
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
Finally someone who can argue without repeating the same thing with different words, thank you. Also beautiful flag mate
2021-03-03 16:57
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#77
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Thank you - Always a pleasure, friend. :) Have a good day.
2021-03-03 17:18
i could never like this game lol
2021-03-03 16:20
plz stop making valarante threads, its like early 2020 again
2021-03-03 16:20
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Finland eIe
I was accepted to the beta test but actually never played it
2021-03-03 16:21
#21
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Russia Feuerbach
Probably because Riot/Tencent have so much money for marketing. Same thing with Legends of Runeterra, their another extremely overrated game
2021-03-03 16:22
Mechanical skill gets replaced by stupid moba abilities and anime art style is for kids and perverts. Shooting mechanics and the resulting skill ceiling are so underwhelming in Valorant that's why you really can't call it a shooter, it's more of a moba game. Compare it to Overwatch and not CS because CS is a pure shooter where your personal skill matters the most, not how well you push buttons to use overpowered anime abilities. It's just catering to modern moba/anime generation, look at Fortnite/Overwatch.. Objectively way worse competitive games than CS but kids and casuals love it and that's how to make money.
2021-03-03 16:26
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+1 smart mens
2021-03-03 16:37
its not that bad tbh, shooting mechanics are less sharp and more streamlined which i didnt like and the maps are utter trash, but the chracters are done well although sometimes there is too much utility, but riot>>>>>>>>>valve, the game has a real anticheat that works + good mm+ pro scene support, guns are interesting and the guns still reward hs, also the awp isnt as OP because its less accurate and is more punishing, i think cs is still better but valorant is actually pretty fun, plus it has an actual casual mode and first to 12 is better than first to 16
2021-03-03 16:32
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#40
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
Idk if riot is really better than valve tbh. For me they just changed csgo mechanics lazily to can gave it another name and do money with it
2021-03-03 16:36
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nah the game feels like it was made with care, it doesnt feel like a csgo ripoff the way that Overwatch doesnt feel like a tf2 ripoff, aesthetic and feeling is very different even if core mechanics are similair
2021-03-03 16:39
Only reason why valulrant has 124 tick + "good" anti cheat is because they needed something that cs doesn't so cs players would switch from csgo to valorant. Also their anti cheat ain't even good, Apparently there's a huge cheating issue in valorant that's just - if not even worse than the one in csgo. Their anticheat isn't only bad cheating wise but there's also a chance it will brick your pc - and I don't know about you but that's not something I want to happen. Also if you care about it its not proven but a 50 50 chance that their anti cheat spies on you, especially if you know anything about tencent. Also #44 Valve will eventually fix anti cheat and 124 tick servers but not aslong as csgo still has player numbers
2021-03-03 16:54
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cope, VALORANT ac is intrusive but it works, i have played abt 100 hrs of valorant and have faced 1 cheater, i logged onto cs and got 3 in a row, id say cs is the better game but everything around the game like servers, ac, matchmaking, is better
2021-03-03 16:56
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If you don't want to take my word for it then your fat ass can burn more than a calorie a day for the first time in 10 years and do a quick google search with your fat sausage fingers (try not to hit the wrong keys) and you will find that there's shit ton of people complaining about their anti cheat and it's not hard at all if you use more than a brain cell for once to figure out that valulrant indeed has a large cheating issue, just like the one in csgo. I can tell you the same thing, 4000 hours in csgo and have only met probably 5-10 cheaters in the last 1-2k hours and that includes atleast 30% of those being in mm.
2021-03-03 17:07
In my 1k hours of cs only on mm/valve servers i have seen only 2 blatant cheaters and like 3-4 probable cheaters. Either u r highly exaggerating or ur trust factor is utter shit
2021-03-03 18:01
#49
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Sweden GlockeN_
if they nerf jet and operator its a good game, the fucking dash and operator is just to much
2021-03-03 16:46
#50
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Germany Droidd
cuz it's easy i hit immortal after like a month of playing
2021-03-03 16:47
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#63
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
lol
2021-03-03 16:57
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2021-03-03 16:57
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#65
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
As Einstein already said one time: "have fun with your KID CARTOON GRAPHICS and your RUN AND GUN WEAPONS. It will NEVER replace CS and you’re just chasing the bag! Can’t wait for you to crawl back in a few months when all the money has dried up."
2021-03-03 16:59
Cartoon graphics, lgbtq+ friendly, easier learning curve gun play-wise, etc. Use your brain mr chromosome
2021-03-03 17:01
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LGBTQ+ friendly. What?
2021-03-03 17:15
4 replies
Yes
2021-03-03 17:28
3 replies
How?
2021-03-03 17:29
2 replies
Yes
2021-03-03 17:30
1 reply
2021-03-03 17:33
not a single person with IQ above 60 likes valulrant
2021-03-03 17:06
#76
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Canada roylin
my friend plays and also csgo matchmaking pretty bad
2021-03-03 17:17
So far Valorant, outside of washed up pros etc, didn't have a noticeable impact on cs pro player base. steamcharts.com/app/730 It doesn't mean the game is bad or anything, but apparently it doesn't atracts cs go players much. Now you can draw your own conclusions.
2021-03-03 17:20
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
How about NA CSGO players? Do you have any source for that?
2021-03-03 17:35
#97
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
"Valorant will kill cs" they said
2021-03-03 17:35
idk if this is bait but all ur points are wrong, ur just giving us some biased opinion about the competitor to your favourite game
2021-03-03 17:39
#102
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Spain SS_SS
its ok game, cs is better tho
2021-03-03 17:43
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#105
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Brazil fuNNycsgo
+1
2021-03-03 17:46
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike chad with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism
2021-03-03 17:51
I like overwatch, I like csgo, csgo overwatch is fun
2021-03-03 17:57
#120
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United States ClickHole
Valorant is a game made for people who can't handle CSGO
2021-03-04 18:25
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