Obviously it has to be Portuguese. Compared to English, a language that all HLTV user knows, Portuguese is 100% tougher, just because a verb in Portuguese has almost 100 different ways to say/use it.
A foreigner who tried to learn Portuguese most likely had a hard time, unless he was spanish or something like that.
Any tougher language in EU?
Ofc we wouldnt be able to understand each other. That's why they are two different languages. Finnish and Estonian are pretty close, they separated around 2000 years ago from Proto Finnic while Proto Ugric where Hungarian comes from separated from Proto Finnic around 5000 years ago
this is a word but there would be plenty other words to describe it. the word stated there is a mix out of other words:
Unfähigkeit = inability
Bescheinigung = certificate/written confirmation
In Germany you're pretty much allowed to mix all the words together if done properly..
And this is how new words are getting generated here as well.
Plane = freaking Flugzeug
Flugzeug = Flug = flight, Zeug =Stuff
Like.... idk man
english also has compound nouns you just don't write it together there, in german you do so it looks like a longer word than in english but in reality it's not.
but in german it's a bit different in the way that you can create completely new words but you still understand the meaning no problem so it's quite clever.
+1 its easier for canadians pronunciation wise because we have to learn it for 9 years so most people here have a basic understanding of how it works lol
Edit: Canadian french (Quebecois) is awful though, the accent is different and its faster than normal french. plus they teach you a mix of metropolitan french (everywhere but quebec) and Quebecois .
portuguese isn't that difficult from my experience because of its similarity to spanish, which is a VERY easy language to learn.
the similarities make it not that difficult to learn if you already have background in spanish.
it's not an EU language, but something like arabic is probably the hardest to learn
The portuguese guy is just malding a bit cuz is commom sense that Brazilian Portuguese sounds 1000% better than european portuguese + Portuguese is not that hard at all prolly just some 0/8 bait, some ppl think that our language is as hard as chinese or something like that, 100% they are dumb as fuck
XD How can you BR differenciate a "But" from a "Plus"?
Also the words you eat half of them as "velho" goes Vei...
Bad verb conjugation, either always gerund or wrong verbal tenses...
You guys transform L in a U, "te" in "Tchi"
Yeah yeah, it sounds better (not)
Or, or... Using "rapariga" which literally translates to "girl", for you guys it's "whore"
We can point out the same kind of stuff in PT-PT, such as the tendency to transform the O in U, like in "poder" and many other words. PT-PT speakers also tend to reduce all non-stressed vowels to "Schwa" or even to eliminate them, such as in "telefone" (telfon in pt-pt).
It is important to mention that PT-BR pronunciation is closest to the original PT, as PT-PT went through a massive vowel reduction during the 18th century (mainstream theory).
tbh pt-br is easier in a sense cause verbs are more "lazy" conjuged
pt-pt has ridiculous grammar, way too complicated
mil tempos verbais com formas diferentes, flexoes com diferentes pronomes (uma cena que no portugues do brasil muitas vezes é esquecida)
no hate, just stating what i've seen over the years
i don't really care about it
that's because they're from the uralic language family which is just super separated from the rest of the eu languages
the closest language group to that would be the baltic languages, namely Lithuanian and Latvian
just depends on the region i guess
i sometimes see that even you guys can't understand speakers form other regions
but most of the times is really really easy to understand, as someone said above, we speak a bit faster
I'm pretty sure Finnish is one of the toughest languages to learn for a native English speaker. Hungarian should be somewhat similar to Finnish and they share similar roots so I thought about adding it too.
Btw here's a fun Finnish word for you: Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas
Edit: Oh yeah and Estonian is also really similar to Finnish, so I'd add that as well.
I studied some basic german for 2 years and highschool and i found it funny how some long ass words are just multiple words put together
we have some like that in portguese but nothing like that, rare and usually small, most of the times we put a "-" between (or we used too, there was a big change in out grammar back in 2010 or so)
pt-pt grammar is hard as fuck, even pronunciation
i rarely see someone who speaks portuguese wihtout accent
our grammar is just a confusing mess, i find it easier to learn english and german grammar tbh
not saying it's super hard
any asian language is harder for european speakers
Grammatical cases. You have 15 of them. But it's not only those, but that the whole language is agglutinative. You include everything as suffixes/inflections to the core words like modules and there is no strict limitation to how much you can add to them. Which can give birth to the most beautiful poetical expressions in very few words, but also to theoretical monsters like our favourite "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän" which holds 15 suffixes of positive, negative, personal and whatnot kind.
Comparingly indo-european languages just put everything in a string of [word] + [preposition] + [word] + [preposition], all in un-inflected basic forms, which is simple.
Are you mad?
Russia is CIS, but the smaller part (though it’s bigger than any Eu country) is located in Europe.
Keep up confusing people more, the FAZE_ARE_ONLINERS alt
Eu = Europe as well as European Union, so try to write it wholly next time, because now it looks like a bait
that being said Eastern Europe which contains 75% of the population is in Europe. It just has such a large landmass its difficult to classify its existence into one continent, although for sure the most important part of the country GDP wise is European, and most Russian pros play on EU servers :)
Because #25 said Russian so i pointed out that Russia is not in EU. Then #83 tried to educate me, but he doesn’t know the difference between EU and Europe so i sent him the list of EU countries to show that Russia is in fact not in EU.
Well they are obviously different so I don’t see why that would change on HLTV. Furthermore, if you look at the comments in this thread the vast majority has picked a language from the EU (they know the difference).
Well now you know, when someone says eu in HLTV, they don't mean the union, for it is too specific. Unless specified, they are talking about Europe, which is broader than European union.
Have a good day)
finnish, hungarian are probably the most complicated ones. And then there are languages that are hard to learn just because of how few speakers there are. Stuff like Brezhoneg has next to no english resources, you would need to learn french first to find something you can work with
i speak english and italian and grew up in usa, so from my perspective its gotta be some slav language like bulgarian, especially since the south east balkan languages are a kind of mix of russian and turkish becuase they were the bitch of the ottomans for 400 years
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh your logic doesn't really make sence? Considering how old Denmark is, Denmark or it's norse ancestor existed before boats did
Also danish is not very hard to learn at all, Swedish is considered the easiest european language to learn and danish has a lot of similarities. If you are a native english speaker Danish is quite easy (compared to other languages)
Basically it is latin + some old germans variants.
It is between latin and germans influence.
So yeah kind of weird. And also there is planty of old french structure into the modern french.
So sometimes it's look illogical.
It must be Finnish or Hungarian for the majority.
Sentence build and word system is different. But for those who uses that system already (Turks etc) all other EU languages are almost equally difficult.
imho opinion Hungarian/Finnish, since there are no other languages in Europe like them and are pretty hard. A latin-related language speaker can learn portuguese easier than anyone can learn Hungarian or Finnish :)
how cringe that all kids here battle each other with
my language is the toughest
no my language is much tougher
shows what cringelords are on hltv ...bye
2000 languages on the world, everybody pick the language from their country...
all mentaly ill...
Hahahah I mean you are not wrong, but I think Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are the hardest ones since they are all part of the same language tree and they are all usually really hard for native English speakers.
And I feel like most people (including myself) feel unique or special because they speak a language that's not spoken by everyone, especially when it's a language that doesn't have much speakers and isn't really popular amongst language learners. A thread like this is a good way to bring up your own language and I feel like most people will gladly take that opportunity. :)
Yeah that's what I noticed as well ahahahhahah
But I mean there are some really hard languages in the world and different stuff can be hard for others and easy for some, so it's understandable to add your language in the mix and see where it stands amongst the other languages that have been mentioned. Some languages have completely different scripts that you'd have to learn and some only have some new letters and some might have really hard grammar while others might have really unique pronunciation.
If you want to speak portuguese it's not that hard but when it comes to grammar you will have a hard time trying to learn.
As a matter of fact even us Brazillians dont learn the proper portuguese in school. You need to take college classes to be able to speak it and write it the right way.
Actually people say serbian is one of the hardest becouse we have 7 cases in our languague and some letters are hard for foreign people to say like lj dž ž
And chinese is pretty hard people say you learn chinese your whole life and i guess finnish i dont known anything about that languague lol
Saying some language is harder than another is extremely stupid because it's depended on what's your mother tongue, what languages you already speak and on other different factors. For example, everyone consider Mandarin as one of the hardest language out there, but for a Tibetan or a Burmese, Mandarin would be relatively easier than English.
Its funny how all talk that their language is the hardest and most of the language you talk here are Western.But nobody say anything about Balkan....(Im sure most of the western countries(people) cant speak any Eastern language.. and for them is harder to learn one then for Balkan/Eastern to learn Western...
i learned german for some time and as long as you get used to how certain words sound and if theyre female or male or whatever its smooth. german is pretty easy, atleast for me.
but lappish. Completely different language with it being finno-ugric and not germanian or romantic and not having gender pronouns and building words retardedly and...
lappish, the "natives" that lvie in north of sweden, norway, finland and russia. its related and most similar to finnish but still completely different. lappish, spoken by laplanders, a "same, samer" in swedish.
we oppressed them like nazis vs jews :DDDDddddDDD111!!!!!
don't think so,
all the languages that come from latin, Italian, french, spanish and portuguese, are relatively easy for people in those countries
i myself speak Italian, Spanish and French (Also Portuguese)
Iam Czech/Finnish and you could be learning czech for 3 years and u still will have no idea how to pronounce "Ř"
and also Czech language has 7 cases
and letters like: Ř, Š, Č, Ž, Ý, É, Ú, Ů, Í, Ě, Ť, Ň
Finnish has to be one of the hardest, because it's really different compared to other languages and doesn't have many relative languages. Its said to be one of the most hardest languages in the world and usually only languages like Mandarin, Korean, Japanese and Arabic surpass it in lists. Hungarian is there as well. For English speaker obviously.
From the perspective of an English speaker, it has to be Georgian. Hungarian is up there as well.
All the Romance and Germanic languages are fairly straightforward. Slavic languages aren't too bad once you've learned the alphabet.
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