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Obviously it has to be Portuguese. Compared to English, a language that all HLTV user knows, Portuguese is 100% tougher, just because a verb in Portuguese has almost 100 different ways to say/use it.
A foreigner who tried to learn Portuguese most likely had a hard time, unless he was spanish or something like that.
Any tougher language in EU?
/discuss
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nah dutch and danish is way worse
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i think cs players all know some finnish thanks to that fucking music kit
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they know some words, but really nothing.
our language is very complex and some accents feel like they're actually from another language itself..
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There's no finnish words at all in that music kit
+1 anyone who doesnt say hungarian or finnish is just wrong
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finnish is hot mate they sound so badass...
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flag dont check out
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Was about to say the same thing about dutch
Dutch is actually pretty easy.
xd true tho
+1 stupidly long words
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Xaxaxaaxaxa
is that actual word? or bait?
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this is a word but there would be plenty other words to describe it. the word stated there is a mix out of other words:
Arbeit =work
S
Unfähigkeit = inability
S
Bescheinigung = certificate/written confirmation
In Germany you're pretty much allowed to mix all the words together if done properly..
And this is how new words are getting generated here as well.
Plane = freaking Flugzeug
Flugzeug = Flug = flight, Zeug =Stuff
Like.... idk man
english also has compound nouns you just don't write it together there, in german you do so it looks like a longer word than in english but in reality it's not.
but in german it's a bit different in the way that you can create completely new words but you still understand the meaning no problem so it's quite clever.
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Good explanation
eg
Life Insurance Company
=
Lebensversicherungsgesellschaft
Life =Leben
S
Insurance = Versicherung
S
Company = Gesellschaft
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Nah, as long as you know english you get half of our vocabulary pretty much for free
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Was easy for me, guess Im just smart af
Nah it's pretty easy
when u cvant even speak your own language... 10 iq ?
I took basic german.
the only thing difficult about your language is your schizo way of telling time and meals
Russian > Finnish/Hungarian > Polish
French 100000%
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French is pretty easy actually. My french is not as good as my english but it isn't terrible at all.
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I'm planning to learn portuguese, do you think that being french will help me?
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It depends, but i guess you could learn it in french you have very different ways to say a verb such as us .. so yes you could
french isnt too bad as long as you get the pronounciation down its kinda intuitive for ppl who already have romance language skills
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i learned in 3 years. its one of the easy ones
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thèse
whats hard about that?
xD
French is pretty easy, learning pronounciation sucks tho
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+1 its easier for canadians pronunciation wise because we have to learn it for 9 years so most people here have a basic understanding of how it works lol
Edit: Canadian french (Quebecois) is awful though, the accent is different and its faster than normal french. plus they teach you a mix of metropolitan french (everywhere but quebec) and Quebecois .
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Most people here learn it for about 4 years, no one is really passionate about it tough. Forgot almost everything now, But learning it again would be easy.
je mappele ionut
Did you mean brazil?
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Brazilian is a bad copy from the toughest language.
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It isn't brazilian, its also Portuguese and Portuguese from Br is 100% more difficult, cuz we have so many more variations in the grammar and local speaking.
A Portuguese person acting superior, lulz
portuguese isn't that difficult from my experience because of its similarity to spanish, which is a VERY easy language to learn.
the similarities make it not that difficult to learn if you already have background in spanish.
it's not an EU language, but something like arabic is probably the hardest to learn
Bad b8 m8. Try harder next time.
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Nah, just facts.
The portuguese guy is just malding a bit cuz is commom sense that Brazilian Portuguese sounds 1000% better than european portuguese + Portuguese is not that hard at all prolly just some 0/8 bait, some ppl think that our language is as hard as chinese or something like that, 100% they are dumb as fuck
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XD How can you BR differenciate a "But" from a "Plus"?
Also the words you eat half of them as "velho" goes Vei...
Bad verb conjugation, either always gerund or wrong verbal tenses...
You guys transform L in a U, "te" in "Tchi"
Yeah yeah, it sounds better (not)
Or, or... Using "rapariga" which literally translates to "girl", for you guys it's "whore"
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We can point out the same kind of stuff in PT-PT, such as the tendency to transform the O in U, like in "poder" and many other words. PT-PT speakers also tend to reduce all non-stressed vowels to "Schwa" or even to eliminate them, such as in "telefone" (telfon in pt-pt).
It is important to mention that PT-BR pronunciation is closest to the original PT, as PT-PT went through a massive vowel reduction during the 18th century (mainstream theory).
tbh pt-br is easier in a sense cause verbs are more "lazy" conjuged
pt-pt has ridiculous grammar, way too complicated
mil tempos verbais com formas diferentes, flexoes com diferentes pronomes (uma cena que no portugues do brasil muitas vezes é esquecida)
no hate, just stating what i've seen over the years
i don't really care about it
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everyone here is just going to say their own language
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No, Finnish was god damn easy for me.
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no shit, so was polish for me
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.... i arent think this
babbel.com/en/magazine/6-hardest-languag..
I feel like finnish, hungarian and estonian are worse
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+1
lol
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Irish or welsh people who are older than 60
I don't even know what they are saying :(
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Yeah, i laugh hard when i hear them. In Portuguese TV, to people who lives in Azores (its an island if you don't know) they sometimes put subtitles.
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Brazilian portuguese > portugal portuguese
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our portuguese is way too "correct"
we follow all the grammar rules still
it's shit tbh
portuguese grammar is fucking awful, when compared to english, and even german
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no way, following classical grammar is fucking great. You have no idea what you are asking for
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I guess in some cases it actually works better, but back in school i hated to study portuguese grammar, i found it to be so boring and complicated, full of useless shit
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That's because we don't learn Latin and Greek anymore, which were part of the classic curriculum. Therefore the basis and logic for learning our grammar are lost.
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just depends on the region i guess
i sometimes see that even you guys can't understand speakers form other regions
but most of the times is really really easy to understand, as someone said above, we speak a bit faster
Lulzillian portogeese and puertogel both sound like shit so its a stalemate.
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Finnish is tough..i agree.. but probably not as tough as portuguese.. but pretty close
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I'm pretty sure Finnish is one of the toughest languages to learn for a native English speaker. Hungarian should be somewhat similar to Finnish and they share similar roots so I thought about adding it too.
Btw here's a fun Finnish word for you: Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas
Edit: Oh yeah and Estonian is also really similar to Finnish, so I'd add that as well.
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Long as hell. In portuguese the biggest word is pneumoultramicroscopicossilicovulcanoconiótico
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In French it is:
Intergouvernementalisations
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Not anymore but still the second longest
in dutch its:
meervoudigepersoonlijkheidsstoornis
Nem sabia da existencia dessa pqp
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nem eu bro, vamos levar ban mas caga xD
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Se isso funcionasse assim aos anos que já tinha levado ban xD
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a lady_nini ainda vem cá xD, que medo kk
my question is, what does it even mean?
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Ah, so one of those cases where someone was like "let me just put together a bunch of nouns"
love it
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I studied some basic german for 2 years and highschool and i found it funny how some long ass words are just multiple words put together
we have some like that in portguese but nothing like that, rare and usually small, most of the times we put a "-" between (or we used too, there was a big change in out grammar back in 2010 or so)
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Lets see. Without googling tell me the verb "ver" in all forms. Gl bro
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Ah, you learned the easiest.... but if you know brazilian portuguese you probably know the verb "ver" now tell it in all forms
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Hej! They don't have letters.. they have drawn letters
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pt-pt grammar is hard as fuck, even pronunciation
i rarely see someone who speaks portuguese wihtout accent
our grammar is just a confusing mess, i find it easier to learn english and german grammar tbh
not saying it's super hard
any asian language is harder for european speakers
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Portuguese is actually one of the easiest languages to learn for english speakers
effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-g..
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We share some words. But the deeper you try to learn it the hard it gets
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Hungarian or Finnish for sure, i give the edge to finnish tho its tuff as shit
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Doenst finland have like 14 of those, i dont know what they are called in english since they dont exist in english, serbian for example has 7, while german has 4
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Grammatical cases. You have 15 of them. But it's not only those, but that the whole language is agglutinative. You include everything as suffixes/inflections to the core words like modules and there is no strict limitation to how much you can add to them. Which can give birth to the most beautiful poetical expressions in very few words, but also to theoretical monsters like our favourite "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän" which holds 15 suffixes of positive, negative, personal and whatnot kind.
Comparingly indo-european languages just put everything in a string of [word] + [preposition] + [word] + [preposition], all in un-inflected basic forms, which is simple.
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wtf mens(((
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he means sijamuotoja, l
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Hehehe
Fight! I want to see blood
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Why should fight against the worst version of portuguese people. Im kidding, dont get mad Brazilians
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Pelé>Ronaldo
russian
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“EU”
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#106
Not the part with educational system.
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Are you mad?
Russia is CIS, but the smaller part (though it’s bigger than any Eu country) is located in Europe.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe
Keep up confusing people more, the FAZE_ARE_ONLINERS alt
Eu = Europe as well as European Union, so try to write it wholly next time, because now it looks like a bait
gl
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No, EU is specifically the European Union just like #149 said.
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No xD I have no idea where you got that from. The EU (or Eu) = The European Union. That's it.
Simply watch this vid if you don't understand the difference
youtube.com/watch?v=7o4MANtB8k4
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europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/countr..
I wonder why Russia is not on the list - oh that’s right, they’re not in the European Union. Are you calling the Danish education system good, since I was right?
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that being said Eastern Europe which contains 75% of the population is in Europe. It just has such a large landmass its difficult to classify its existence into one continent, although for sure the most important part of the country GDP wise is European, and most Russian pros play on EU servers :)
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Switzerland is in Europe...
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That’s because they are not in EU...? Your comment said Europe ....??
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EU in HLTV mean just Europe, no the union.
Expected you to know.
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Well they are obviously different so I don’t see why that would change on HLTV. Furthermore, if you look at the comments in this thread the vast majority has picked a language from the EU (they know the difference).
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Well now you know, when someone says eu in HLTV, they don't mean the union, for it is too specific. Unless specified, they are talking about Europe, which is broader than European union.
Have a good day)
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You too mens)
finnish, hungarian are probably the most complicated ones. And then there are languages that are hard to learn just because of how few speakers there are. Stuff like Brezhoneg has next to no english resources, you would need to learn french first to find something you can work with
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+1 finnish is very hard to learn if ur not finnish because all of the different grammatical cases
Russian
i speak english and italian and grew up in usa, so from my perspective its gotta be some slav language like bulgarian, especially since the south east balkan languages are a kind of mix of russian and turkish becuase they were the bitch of the ottomans for 400 years
DANISH IS IMPOSSIBLE
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yeye danish is a bastard language of german english and nordic
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u drive 200 meters and the language changes there
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Lmfao actually true
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i watch a danish tv show and i cant even make out syllables it just sounds like every word is slurred
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i mean denmark is litteraly in one of the most important seaways in the world makes sense theyre language is a mess of random shit coming in from every direction
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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh your logic doesn't really make sence? Considering how old Denmark is, Denmark or it's norse ancestor existed before boats did
Also danish is not very hard to learn at all, Swedish is considered the easiest european language to learn and danish has a lot of similarities. If you are a native english speaker Danish is quite easy (compared to other languages)
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Depends of your maternal language.
Imo eastern and central europeans language are hard to learn
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french is really hard, men :((. I think people who developed it, were just trolls
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Basically it is latin + some old germans variants.
It is between latin and germans influence.
So yeah kind of weird. And also there is planty of old french structure into the modern french.
So sometimes it's look illogical.
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Hungarian is definetly up there,its really different from pretty much every European language
I did have a lot of trouble trynna learn Portuguese and French.
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epic trolling
axaxaxax
its what all doctors use to write
Dude you don’t have idea about Greek language
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Wrong topic Ahmed
Check again
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For real ?
Grammar is shit , gl though
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Why don't you just adopt the Latin alphabet? Same goes for those dumb cyrillic users.
hungarian and finnish.
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we could also add basque
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+1
0/8
translate.google.com
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That or smth like Polish prob
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Thanks, I didn’t know mens)
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It is not true at all, Polish, Hungarian and Finnish are hardest languages to learn.
pin.it/6es7wiR
Irish - google translate is wrong most of the time and doesnt have the text to speech option :((
probably danish
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Finnish? Polish?
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much easier to understand when they are speaking
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Lmfao doubt that
Basque ofc
french and jerman
Finnish easily, it's literally a nightmare. Or even better, a painajainen
Icelandic
Well i speak American Canadian Australian New Zealandish etc so as a kid i found learning English really easy
Finnish:
imgur.com/JzpLEfm
It must be Finnish or Hungarian for the majority.
Sentence build and word system is different. But for those who uses that system already (Turks etc) all other EU languages are almost equally difficult.
everyone forgetting Finnish although Hungarian has some hard to pronounce words
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polish = easy
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all eu languages are same in terms of grammar. I would say turkish since we have land on europe and we participate in eu football cups and eurovision. Turkish is very hard
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No, there are many language families in europe. Polish has nothing in common eith German or Greek at all.
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you might be right because i dont know about polish.
Finnish
hungarian with no doubt
Probably finnish or estonian
how cringe that all kids here battle each other with
my language is the toughest
,no my
no my language is much tougher
shows what cringelords are on hltv ...bye
2000 languages on the world, everybody pick the language from their country...
all mentaly ill...
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for real its unbelievable....
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Hahahah I mean you are not wrong, but I think Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian are the hardest ones since they are all part of the same language tree and they are all usually really hard for native English speakers.
And I feel like most people (including myself) feel unique or special because they speak a language that's not spoken by everyone, especially when it's a language that doesn't have much speakers and isn't really popular amongst language learners. A thread like this is a good way to bring up your own language and I feel like most people will gladly take that opportunity. :)
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looks for me like the hardest language for the hltv kids are their own xD
probably all down syndrom haha, no hate to u but just scroll thru the comments
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Yeah that's what I noticed as well ahahahhahah
But I mean there are some really hard languages in the world and different stuff can be hard for others and easy for some, so it's understandable to add your language in the mix and see where it stands amongst the other languages that have been mentioned. Some languages have completely different scripts that you'd have to learn and some only have some new letters and some might have really hard grammar while others might have really unique pronunciation.
Finnish was god damn easy for me though. Wdym.
Easily Hungarian only delusional Finns disagree
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If you want to speak portuguese it's not that hard but when it comes to grammar you will have a hard time trying to learn.
As a matter of fact even us Brazillians dont learn the proper portuguese in school. You need to take college classes to be able to speak it and write it the right way.
longest word in english: pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis :)
Actually people say serbian is one of the hardest becouse we have 7 cases in our languague and some letters are hard for foreign people to say like lj dž ž
And chinese is pretty hard people say you learn chinese your whole life and i guess finnish i dont known anything about that languague lol
romanian , try to learn this shit lol there are moments when i literary prefer to speak in english
finland??? but best country tho
This some kind of dicksize measuring contest?
"my language is harder to learn haha! I win!!"
imgur.com/gallery/BYNnGox
norwegian and swedish go up and down in tone like they're in the fucking opera or something
I think to be 100% grammatic correct in ukrainian is really hard (Even I can't be). And from what I have learned, ukrainian is harder than russian
dont know but finnish is rich
Icelandic is by far the hardest.
Saying some language is harder than another is extremely stupid because it's depended on what's your mother tongue, what languages you already speak and on other different factors. For example, everyone consider Mandarin as one of the hardest language out there, but for a Tibetan or a Burmese, Mandarin would be relatively easier than English.
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Wtf someone talking sense on hltv
it's really hard to say that.. because all the languages are pretty hard to understand (except English, because it's so ez haha - at least compared to portuguese)
gyazo.com/878838b48b70e06654d7d73b4b2082.. Hungarian and Finnish nothing new
French and Jerman
danish as far as pronunciation, finnish/estonian/hungarian for the sheer "uniqueness" as they are completely different to anything else you know
Its funny how all talk that their language is the hardest and most of the language you talk here are Western.But nobody say anything about Balkan....(Im sure most of the western countries(people) cant speak any Eastern language.. and for them is harder to learn one then for Balkan/Eastern to learn Western...
Turkish
Finnish, hungarian, estonian
Everybody knows it's Hungarian
i learned german for some time and as long as you get used to how certain words sound and if theyre female or male or whatever its smooth. german is pretty easy, atleast for me.
but lappish. Completely different language with it being finno-ugric and not germanian or romantic and not having gender pronouns and building words retardedly and...
lappish, the "natives" that lvie in north of sweden, norway, finland and russia. its related and most similar to finnish but still completely different. lappish, spoken by laplanders, a "same, samer" in swedish.
we oppressed them like nazis vs jews :DDDDddddDDD111!!!!!
hardest i dont know but easiest is polish almost everyone i know can speak it no problem men
probably european
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My English exams were much easier for me than Spanish ones too, it's not really comparable since they evaluate different aspects
LOL i guess u had been learning only english in your life. U didint learn other so how u can have your own statement on this topic
Basque
finnish-hungarian-turkish because they are not indo-euro languages.
hungarian, polish and greece i guess
Hungarian.
englando
agreed
portuguese for sure, its like EU Korean
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don't think so,
all the languages that come from latin, Italian, french, spanish and portuguese, are relatively easy for people in those countries
i myself speak Italian, Spanish and French (Also Portuguese)
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wrong
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czech shouldn't be harder than most of slavic languages tbh
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xD
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Finnish has to be one of the hardest, because it's really different compared to other languages and doesn't have many relative languages. Its said to be one of the most hardest languages in the world and usually only languages like Mandarin, Korean, Japanese and Arabic surpass it in lists. Hungarian is there as well. For English speaker obviously.
All languages that does not use the Latin alphabet.
As a portuguese from birth i must say i don't remember learning it, and i speak it since i can remember, so that means it's easy.
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Checkmate
what do you mean by tough, exactly?
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Doesn't count since I only know one Estonian word containing Õ and you can guess what it is
ÅÄÖ superior
Slovak language is really hard actually, I can't imagine learning all the rules and actually understanding it while speaking some completely different language
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3/8
Finiish....just look at them words :D
I'm from Brazil so of course it's not Portuguese for me
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italian, spanish and french are so easy to learn
used to be able to speak a bit of french fluently
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Everbody sit the fuck down. It's Hungarian.
/closed.
Danish
At least I feel like that cause I fucking suck
try learn Slovak language :D :D :D you will cry
youtu.be/W5GL0ReNzMw
Polish, by far
hungarian
english german italian spanish portugese french are all similar languages. :D You cant compare them.
For sure not Spanish, English, German, Portuguese, Danish, French, Italian, Polish
Anyways all of them can be easily learned. Asian languages are just way tougher.
