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United Kingdom callum_1201 
Haven’t lost in ages dominating tier 2 remind me of gambit a little bit are they the next CIS team to break into tier 1 El1an looking like a Sh1ro sort of star player for them
2021-03-03 18:22
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Russia Skengdo
0/8
2021-03-03 18:23
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Finland Clixpe
maybe
2021-03-03 18:24
0/8 comparing el1an (cheater) to sh1ro
2021-03-03 18:24
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Wait-- el1an is a cheater? Is there proof of this? If so, I was unaware of this.
2021-03-03 18:25
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zeus ..
2021-03-03 18:28
He’s not a cheater lol
2021-03-03 18:28
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Ah, so El1an being as good as he is, he is the same boat as YEKINDAR currently then?
2021-03-03 18:30
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Add leaf in to the pool and we have the complete set.
2021-03-03 18:34
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Good point, I completely forgot about the witch-hunting on Leaf/Xeppaa...
2021-03-03 18:35
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so random tier7 players locking on players is and people getting mad about is witch hunting ok
2021-03-03 19:07
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
How are El1an, Leaf, Xeppaa and YEKINDAR "random tier 7" players? Also context is needed for "locking on players", there is a difference between an aim-hack and the aim-lock movement tech.
2021-03-03 19:14
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wym! ofc top 5 = tier 7, and yekindar is very tier 7 proof: hltv.org/stats?startDate=2021-01-01&endD..
2021-03-03 20:45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Looking at that is always quite shocking due to the filter. oSee topping that is mental, though oSee is a very good player.
2021-03-03 20:55
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same with smooya, they are just very underrated awpers who play in the lower tiers of cs, although they can and have played against tier one opponents in their pasts
2021-03-03 20:56
When Elian was a kid he owned Zeus on his own tournament so Zeus caused him in cheating, made cringe stream with "proofs" that doesn't prove shit, banned poor kid from all tournaments he have connections with, and threatened him with "I have my ppl in Moscow, they can make you a problems" Oh sorry it was for Jonty
2021-03-03 18:45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Thanks for the information. So since then, people assume the kid to be cheating just because he owned Zeus in a tournament?
2021-03-03 19:12
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I think they're joking, cuz for me it's obvious kid is innocent
2021-03-03 19:19
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Fair enough. :) I think El1an is truly insane, all things considered. I haven't really looked into watching over him for suspicious activity, I just look seeing the kid play.
2021-03-03 19:22
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Denmark JKTP
How many CIS teams have played fine CS in tier 2 but never done Anything on the big stage. Also they are honestly playing opponents that are more like tier 3-4 rather than tier 2
2021-03-03 18:25
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 Winstrike look great now but the competition is taken into account when you consider where they are within the rankings.
2021-03-03 18:26
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Hey Jonty, which ranking do you think is the most trustworthy? Esl, CSPPA, HLTV, etc?
2021-03-03 18:45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I like HLTV's overall because I think the placings are more accurate in comparison to other rankings, as it tracks and keeps hold of your placings throughout. Others assume bias because of this: hltv.org/disclosure <-- However not many users actually understand what this actually means. ESL rankings still have Vitality at number 3 and Na'Vi at 4, Gambit all the way at second because of the iEM Katowice win. Na'Vi I think should be above Team vitality and VP shouldn't be lower than Vitality at all - that doesn't really make any sense. The CSPPA rankings I think are more accurate than ESL's rankings, though Vitality are still over Gambit and VP despite having no discernible results in 2021. There is also "Gosugamers" but honestly I think that is one of the worst ones.
2021-03-03 19:10
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Wow, never heard of that "disclosure" thing. I personally think all ranking are decent, but HLTV stands out a bit more. Thank you for your opinion m8
2021-03-03 20:41
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#34
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Not a problem - Always a pleasure, friend. :) Have a good day.
2021-03-03 20:52
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You too =)
2021-03-03 21:11
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United States Fordring
No /closed
2021-03-03 18:25
They have also beat Extremum really the rest of the teams arent too great.
2021-03-03 18:26
Not even close to Gambit
2021-03-03 18:27
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Obviously not yet but in the near future
2021-03-03 18:29
Their only win against a top 25 team was vs SAW and it was very close. Chill.
2021-03-03 18:30
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True but they haven’t played any big teams you can only beat what’s put in front of you
2021-03-03 18:37
I dont think so they will be same as Gambit. But they have alot of potential tho. All of them are good players.
2021-03-03 18:31
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Agreed I doubt they will be as good as gambit but would like to see them in a tier 1 event
2021-03-03 18:38
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Philippines B3nk4i
None of their players really stand out as being amazing the way ax1le and shiro did when they were tier 2. I mean maybe el1an and lack1 can step up who knows
2021-03-03 18:50
I think so too
2021-03-03 19:12
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Europe Cirros_V2
Yea you got a point, they are looking rly well. Not making to many dumb mistakes, playing together. GL to them
2021-03-03 19:15
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