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FNATIC FIX
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United States Danny_122333 
-Golden -JW +NatosaphiX +Flusha you may see +natosaphix and think "omg what a bot noob thread, nato's not swedish", but swedish and Danish are pretty intelligible, so Nato can just speak more clearly and improve in understanding swedish over time plus there are no good awpers in sweden (I don't count jackinho as a good awper), so I think nato is the best choice also flusha is obvious move because flusha > golden
2021-03-05 02:11
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who will be the igl then?
2021-03-05 02:12
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#5
jmqa | 
Russia pha1re
Nobody or flusha, but fnatic in that roster look like shit.
2021-03-05 02:16
Flusha ofc
2021-03-05 02:18
8 replies
He hasn't proven if he has any real IGL abilities, so it could be literally even worse then Golden (if thats possible)
2021-03-05 02:52
7 replies
didn't he igl for C9 back in the day?
2021-03-05 02:53
6 replies
for a short amout of time yes, also for fnatic under the big sucess
2021-03-05 02:53
C9 was pretty shit back then, so not much to be proud of. Also #34 whats he talking about? I believe Golden was IGLing while he was only a loan
2021-03-05 02:56
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Flusha said in his HLTV Confirmed that he IGLed for Fnatic various times over the years. Not saying I agree with the changes, but just explaining what they were saying.
2021-03-05 02:59
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Did he pinpoint the times?
2021-03-05 02:59
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2021-03-05 03:02
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I mean he can say that but 'officially' Dennis was IGLing, and so all those accomplishments should be more credited to the addition of Dennis. I still think he needs to prove that he can do it, because all of his examples can't really be proven unless other players come out and say it and every example he had a capable IGL on his team.
2021-03-05 03:09
natosaphix? omg what a bot noob thread, nato's not swedish
2021-03-05 02:13
#3
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Estonia whosmans
In their game vs the Russian striper team Golden had more kills than Krimz and Brollan
2021-03-05 02:13
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yes but in 2021 as a whole, him and JW have been fragging horribly plus he can't be igl'ing well if he can't set up his team to farm a russian stripper team
2021-03-05 02:22
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#13
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Estonia whosmans
"The first best swordsman need not fear the second best swordsman, but fears the absolute amateur"
2021-03-05 02:23
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cool quote but FNATIC still should beat GROND esports 100% of the time you could play it off as a "first best swordsman" thing if fnatic was still good, but they've sucked for a while now, losing to mad lions and MIBR
2021-03-05 02:29
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#17
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Estonia whosmans
their players have still been refined to play versus top tier opposition, not these randoms. Same issue plagued the old VP and NIP rosters If given the opportunity I'm sure Fnatic could adapt to these opponents, but I doubt they care to do so and probably went into this qualifier expecting to win without any issues
2021-03-05 02:30
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If players don't care you know what happens? They get removed. They need to start caring or something will happen
2021-03-05 02:53
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#37
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Estonia whosmans
it was likely a combined lack of care from all five of them
2021-03-05 02:55
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Krimz and Brollan always put up numbers though... If its lack of care then I think most of the blame would fall on [bot] Golden, part of his job is to make them care
2021-03-05 02:57
how can you say flusha>golden weve literally never seen him igl even once
2021-03-05 02:16
the fuck? no please... flusha hasnt proven shit as IGL and nato is just not good btw most swedes cant understand danish at all...
2021-03-05 02:18
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"Dutch, German, English, Swedish and Danish are all Germanic languages but the degree of mutual intelligibility between these languages differs. Danish and Swedish are the most mutually comprehensible, but German and Dutch are also mutually intelligible." from rug.nl/news/2016/02/verstaanbaarheid-ger..
2021-03-05 02:20
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That's just the most bullshit article I've ever seen. Norwegian is by far the easiest language to understand as a Swede. Most swedes can understand maybe 20-30% of danish, but not enough to understand the message of most sentences. Most swedes will have to speak english if they're speaking with a danish person.
2021-03-05 02:36
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1. wtf mens why fake flag :(( 2. do you think that after like a month of work nato could learn decent enough swedish or how to annunciate danish so that everyone else can understand it?
2021-03-05 02:36
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Yea probably, there are a lot of swedes working in Denmark for example, and they learn to understand and speak the language fairly quickly. And from what i've heard, it's easier for danes to learn swedish than vice versa. Just from a swedish persons POV, danish sounds really "unclear"... it sounds like they only pronounce 30% of the words. but yeah I think after like a month or two of hard training, language wouldn't be that much of an issue. But tbh, since map callouts and shit are different in different languages, I wonder if it wouldn't just be better to speak english. I don't think anyone in fnatic really has bad english tbh
2021-03-05 02:41
flag* checks out... that's like saying that person from poland can join russian team just because he can understand russian calls...
2021-03-05 03:31
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Damn bro sorry for believing an academic source
2021-03-05 03:33
bro, how can fnatic go from winning dreamhack to not even getting invited to the main event and closed qualifiers to losing in OPENS. Im appalled
2021-03-05 02:19
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#15
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North America 007DBR9
that was a year and a half ago bro
2021-03-05 02:25
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still they should be at least be invited to closed qualifiers. wtf have cloud9 done? jack shit
2021-03-05 03:09
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#56
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North America 007DBR9
technically kato play ins were part of the main event
2021-03-05 03:28
#10
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Chile cristiaan
nato and flusha? loool good bait
2021-03-05 02:20
#11
RUSH | 
United States ShawnM
i would be interested to see flusha go back to fnatic to IGL the classic +flusha -flusha (godsent) +flusha -flusha (cloud9 after bench) +flusha -flusha (benched now) +flusha
2021-03-05 02:22
should get forest as an awper. seems like the obvious best option sweden has to offer
2021-03-05 02:23
3 replies
That'd be cool but F0rest has had chances in the past and has never done it, doubt he'd change now. Also he is alright with the AWP but its better to have him as a rifler
2021-03-05 02:40
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f0rest was NIPS best player for the last 1.5 years he was there. nip wanted to keep him but he wouldnt leave the others. he playing so smart and stabile on the awp on nip, not a star but fnatix could really use a more stabile awper imo.
2021-03-05 03:00
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oh no I'd love to see f0rest in fnatic, I know he could preform there. My problem was that f0rest wouldn't want to join fnatic, and if he did I have a feeling that his personality (very calm, level-headed) wouldn't blend well with the guys on fnatic, I also thinks thats part of why Xizt didn't work out that well, same with lekr0. Personality plays a huge role, especially in a team like fnatic.
2021-03-05 03:02
#18
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
NaToSaphiX is just not option for team like Fnatic,he fails in some tier2/3 teams so why would Fnatic pick him? Someone said that JW will be main awp first couple of months then Jackinho will take that role later. If that still don't work they can look maybe in some other Swedish awpers like eraa from GamerLegion. Also i don't think flusha would go back that early in Fnatic..so Golden should be fine even his fraging ability is arguable..
2021-03-05 02:31
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Nato can be a good option in any team if he's utilized properly in all honesty... Deadfox was hands down one of the best awpers before joining HR and then he got screwed up by that team... instead of using him as an awper they forced nades into the guy... In all honesty... this whole JW situation feels like Olof, Dennis, Twist lineup of fnatic.... - bullshit
2021-03-05 03:33
0/8. disband
2021-03-05 02:38
-NatosaphiX +Xizt
2021-03-05 02:39
people if we go and change instead without giving time will not get anywhere. for flusha to return, golden should go and that will not happen because it did not happen. I've seen almost every fnatic game since flusha left (if not all) and I really don't think jackhino is the problem. Having said this, having two jw broke it in flashpoint and you can't get 2 players like jw and flusha as usual because they are pillars in fnatic. for me I think that this year they can get a good tournament but not like they are now. something changed in fnatic, I would say in his way of thinking is different from fnatic before.
2021-03-05 02:40
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Oh ya jackhino is far from the problem, he seems to have a lot of talent. If anyone is on the chopping block for Fnatic its JW or Golden. JW just hasn't been putting up the numbers and has failed utterly as the AWPer in recent times. Golden has been getting counterstrated to shit (go to any fnatic map page that they lost and its full of people saying he is the worst IGL) and has just been utterly outclassed. Swedish players without a team (based off memory)- Maikelele Lekr0 Xizt Olofmeister Almost all of them can IGL, although I know for a fact that their personalties don't go well with the other guys with Fnatic (except maybe Olof) so honestly I don't see many changes they could make that would improve them because all of these guys would be a huge risk signing and could fail horribly. Maikelele has a bit of an attitude problem, and hasn't played in a while. I'd say a bit too inconsistent. Lekr0 is way to laid-back for a team like fnatic imo so his personality doesn't go in well I think, and also he wasn't that good in North, so signing him could literally lower their firepower (which was one of his strengths as an IGL in NiP). Xizt is also too laid-back I think for a team like fnatic, and they already tried it and it didn't work out that well. Olof in his last few days in FaZe showed some promise but i don't think he could keep that form up.
2021-03-05 02:51
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If you look at flashpoint 2 you will notice that fnatic reached the semifinal for jw, and at that moment flusha wanted to go fnatic or be igl. The organization (which are better than us analyzing) made its decision and although I would like to see more of flusha in fnatic, a change was needed, for me they are worse but if you do not change you will not improve
2021-03-05 03:02
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I agree with you they are worse, I created a thread about this hltv.org/forums/threads/2389767/fnatics-.. They need changes badly, but who else can they pick? As I said in #30, the only other IGLs are ones that would be huge risk and obviously they don't want Flusha.
2021-03-05 03:05
#26
Toft | 
Denmark LJSI
nato is not tier 1 material, hes just average
2021-03-05 02:41
3 replies
+1 i dont know why people rate him so highly. hes had so many chances in T1 and never performs
2021-03-05 02:42
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#65
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Philippines B3nk4i
Dude his only experience in t1 was a shitty heroic team and the time he stood in for mousesports that's it
2021-03-05 03:52
1 reply
and complexity
2021-03-05 05:58
new fnatic: Brollan KRIMZ Me Jks idk maybe birdfromsky
2021-03-05 02:42
#29
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Italy ROMAG
jw olofm flusha krimz f0rest ez fix
2021-03-05 02:43
6 replies
Ya no
2021-03-05 02:52
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#46
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Italy ROMAG
yeah, would win multiple majors but if I would fix modern fnatic jackinho (give a chance to him to awp, since hes is a primary awper) krimz brollan flusha IGL plopski or rez
2021-03-05 03:00
4 replies
Not realistic but I'd say its an improvement
2021-03-05 03:02
flusha doesn't want to igl rez would be alright in all honesty plopski hell no... he's a good player but inconsistant as fuck
2021-03-05 03:35
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#63
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Italy ROMAG
1st. flusha want to igl, he leaves fnatic because he wanted ot igl. He said it in HLTV confirmed 2nd. I agree that rez is a better player but he clashes role with brollan and krimz, because of that idk if he would be better
2021-03-05 03:41
#64
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Italy ROMAG
plopski would make sense with golden because plopski is more like a lurker and anchor. rez would make more sense with flusha
2021-03-05 03:51
-JW +Any player is actually an upgrade
2021-03-05 02:54
1 reply
+1
2021-03-05 03:35
#38
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Russia Slavaa
lol, fuck off
2021-03-05 02:55
4 replies
Hello, how would you recommend fixing fnatic issues?
2021-03-05 02:57
3 replies
#52
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Russia Slavaa
they don't need changes, that's all
2021-03-05 03:08
2 replies
But they haven't been playing good, do you want them to forever be a tier 2 team now?
2021-03-05 03:09
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#67
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Russia Slavaa
i just want to give them time
2021-03-05 04:19
#43
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Brazil NegoNey
you have fucking jackinho that is a good awper but you need to peek another awper and remove your igl? lmao
2021-03-05 02:59
If fnatic wanted to fix their shit they wouldn't make calls like this in the first place... I've been their fan since Cologne 2015 and if we're going to be honest seems like they don't know when to pull a brake and take a step back... while I do understand removal of Flusha you can't possibly think that you're going to win matches if JW is still going for troll plays after losing 10 rounds in a row... - and frankly what're they even trying to do? Back when Xizt was in fnatic they threw literally every anti eco there was... now they hired an awper and don't even give him a chance to awp, guy which can't hit any shots is buying awp round after round and still messing it up.... while Krimz still does have some fuel left in him, if you're from old guard of fnatic.. the best you can hope for is to teach new players a thing or two... prime of old fnatic is over and whatever if someone likes this or not - it's not going to come back, not now not ever (take Olof as example... he has a good match and even god tier match from time to time.. but he's not even reaching 10 percent of his peak from 2015...)
2021-03-05 03:41
#66
aurora | 
Australia omag
-all 5 +rez
2021-03-05 04:09
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