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Cyprus GosuSan 
yeah so intel will release 11gen at the end of March do u think AMD will need to drop the price of ryzen 5 series or amd won't care also is interesting what will be the new prices of intel, cuz 10gen are cheap af 10400f - $150 - kek = 6 cores 12 threads - locked 10600kf - $230 = 6/12 unlocked 10700kf - $320 = 8/16 unlocked yeah and i don't think 11gen can cost much more than amd cuz it's just 5% boost or smt to gen10, but if they do that, that will retarded move from intel imo, also can gen 10 be even cheaper than now? lol and the problem with 11gen is that they need new mobos that quite expensive ... it will be interesting btw: this is the best time in history to create 3th brand of GPUs ppl are more desperate than even, i wonder why nobody sees that opportunity
2021-03-05 09:51
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I don't think you realize for GPU's the kinds of material they need to make them. They don't grow on trees. Also who cars about CPU's? wtf Just buy a ryzen and call it a day you don't need to give a shit about 10OOF series anything
2021-03-05 09:54
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Im guessing it's not a piece of cake, but still - the opportunity window is wide open now due to careless politics of nvidia and radeon
2021-03-05 09:59
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Careless politics? How come? Nvidia is restricting mining on their RTX/GTX-series to supply gamers and other PC users alike and releasing GPU's aimed at cryptominers.. What is the policy that would imply there is more headroom for a competitor to butt in, as I don't see any? I see that the global demand is high, but the material supply at the same time is really low and the manufacturing process is such a pain in the ass that you'll probably do 2-5 years of crap before getting the hang of it..
2021-03-05 13:01
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that mining blockade did absolutely nothing, rtx 3060 are hardly available and if they are the price start from 200%++ of suggested by nvidia, it's just good PR to very bad game, (in practice not bad for them while they're selling) only Biden can help by bring back semiconductors production to usa, but with his speed, it'll takes years so gamers are fucked unless they will be huge crypto crash this year
2021-03-05 13:16
#73
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Austria young1e
bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-03/c.. You can't make GPU without processor chip for it, you can't get chips because there is a shortage. At this moment even a company like Apple couldn't get into the GPU market.
2021-03-05 13:55
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Finland KieZuZ
Intel is making its own gaming gpu. AMD will surely release budjet 5000-series processors soon. Supply will keep prices high for multiple reasons so dont expect anything to be cheap for a while. Why would anyone sell something cheaper if they sell 100% of stock in seconds even with 2x price?
2021-03-06 08:12
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it looks like now it's rather the stores that rip off user, idk what deal do they have with nvdida but if they buy for suggested price or less and sell with at least 200%++ margin, that should be punished either by government or by nvidia
2021-03-06 16:12
You haven't been active recently and cannot post replies repeatedly within five minutes
2021-03-05 12:56
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Banned
2021-03-05 13:48
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Finland _Top1
I predict some guy will make an original joke about either CPU causing a fire in this thread
2021-03-05 09:54
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Still better than these millions of „mY eYeS seE oNLY 200€ not 200 FPS“ jokes or the out of stoke jokes Basically all these meta whore like seeking disgusting unoriginal copypasted waste of time garbage jokes that weren’t even funny the first time you read them
2021-03-05 09:57
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Wow you angry
2021-03-05 10:50
2 replies
There was a time when YouTube commenters tried to be original when YouTube was still young
2021-03-05 10:53
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Oh I remember those good old times, I dont disagree with that.
2021-03-05 10:57
i do not understand people talking over cpus, they literally give you 10 more fps than the gen before unless you are doing some rendering, anything above 7700 is an overkill
2021-03-05 09:56
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I'm assuming he's referring to budget CPU's, because there can be a difference between the bunch in terms of price and performance, and FPS wise when you're on lower to mid end hardware it does matter, but realistically you don't need a topic on it, it's rather pointless.
2021-03-05 09:58
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hahaha talking about pointless topics on hltv - good irony
2021-03-05 10:01
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+1
2021-03-05 11:07
#10
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Hungary Gulaash
1000fps masterrace is needed for our 360hz monitors
2021-03-05 09:59
Bs mate I drop under 250 frames in cs all the time despite playing on 1280x960 in dm it can go as low as 150 with a 9600k and mind you I have a 270hz Monitor so I should want 270+ FPS constantly
2021-03-05 09:59
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there are no 270 Hz monitors and a 9600K doesn't drop to 150 fps, either you have like one stick of 8 GB RAM 2133 and bad timings or your GPU sucks hard.
2021-03-05 10:15
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Why are you explaining to me some random bullshit when you don’t know anything I do have an oc‘d 240hz Monitor That goes up to 280 hz I chose to play at 270 for stability purposes And yes the 9600k DOES drop to 150 in deathmatch and I even oc‘d it to 4,7
2021-03-05 10:24
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"you don’t know anything" "I have a 270hz Monitor" "there are no 270 Hz monitors" "I do have an oc‘d 240hz Monitor" maybe learn to read before shittalking.
2021-03-05 10:39
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It literally is a 270 hz Monitor if you oc it to 270 or even further for that matter stop making urself look more stupid than you already appear to be There is nothing that separates a native 270hz Monitor from an overclocked 240hz it’s the same as saying there are no 5,3ghz processors because intel doesn’t sell base clock of 5,3 there is no bloody difference Jesus Christ
2021-03-05 10:45
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grow up kid, there is no need to be an asshole. I told you there are no 270 Hz monitors and there are none. You can cry about it to someone who cares.
2021-03-05 10:47
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You start shit talking me whilst knowing nothing when I point it out that U replied garbage you get all defensive Moral of the story is if u try to correct someone at least try to have a clue wtf ur talking about Or u will Emberass urself
2021-03-05 10:50
2021-03-05 10:55
I think you two should just hug and kiss because obviously it was just a misscommunication over semantics.
2021-03-05 10:55
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Good plan mens
2021-03-05 10:58
You realize some monitors can overclock to 270hz right? Also you're talking about a game on an old ass engine that came out in 2012. Some people have 300+ fps on i5's, some people on i9's have less.
2021-03-05 10:30
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It all depends I mean I can get peaks of 500 FPS if I look into a dark corner in mirage but on d2 dm it can get really low (150) dm with 20 players is a shitfest for any cpu and additional cores don’t do anything as 6 is max that the game really uses 9,6k has 6 cores so there is that
2021-03-05 10:36
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United States Shr3y
I feel you. I get sub 200 fps in dm as well despite having a good CPU (3600X)
2021-03-06 08:06
ofc i know that, i am using an Acer XB252Qbmiprzx myself, doesn't change the fact that there are no 270 Hz monitors which was what i wrote.
2021-03-05 10:41
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There are no 5,2 ghz processors they don’t exist
2021-03-05 10:47
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You are even too stupid to see sarcasm now go find a link for #28 aswell
2021-03-05 10:51
If you tune your car to 500 ps but original it was 300 it still means it is 300 ps car right ?
2021-03-05 10:48
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+1
2021-03-05 11:08
Your logic lmao. "There are no monitors that can be 270hz" Your example "I use a 240hz monitor" DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
2021-03-05 13:47
thats not all about fps check ryzen 3th and ryzen 5th gen latency diff, tdp etc.so yeah 10 more fps and more 3600 vs 5600x latency test
2021-03-05 10:10
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?? Are we talking about 1 milliseconds worth of latency? Are you saying that really matters
2021-03-05 10:33
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and that 1ms latency effects performance so yes we are
2021-03-05 11:47
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it effects it like this much Can you see how much? no because that's how small it is.
2021-03-05 13:37
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murica brain not gonna argue
2021-03-05 14:54
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#84 Because you actually have no idea DURR I LOOKED IT UP ON YOUTUBE AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!!!! Can't even meme mUrIcA when you're even less educated than anybody here.
2021-03-05 21:46
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2021-03-05 22:14
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"i'M nOt A tEaChEr JuSt SeArCh ThE WeB"'
2021-03-05 22:15
2021-03-05 22:14
#99
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United States Shr3y
You didn't provide any solid evidence and now you're generalizing his intellect based on his flag? Seems like you're the one less educated on the subject.
2021-03-06 08:09
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u mad? cos im not
2021-03-06 12:39
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#104
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United States Shr3y
I am not mad I'm just asking you some questions
2021-03-06 12:40
so you are accepting that the difference between cpus between gens are not that high?
2021-03-05 14:21
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i didnt say that
2021-03-05 14:54
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you are saying that 1ms lower latency is a huge upgrade? i
2021-03-05 15:01
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im not a teacher just search the web, cpu architecture cache and core latency just STFW
2021-03-05 15:19
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so you are saying that 1ms lower latency is a huge upgrade?
2021-03-05 16:59
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When you try to call him out and he just says "i'M nOt A tEaChEr JuSt SeArCh ThE WeB"
2021-03-05 21:49
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weak, i expected him to point out that i was a turk still though my point stands, it obviously gets better but the difference between 7700 and 10700 is so fucking low
2021-03-06 07:05
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Unless you're using CPU based applications like blender then yeah, CPU matters very little, as long as it's not like a 2 core.
2021-03-06 07:54
"and the problem with 11gen is that they need new mobos that quite expensive ..." not true, they will run on 400 series chipsets. "i wonder why nobody sees that opportunity" because this takes years and years, look at Intel they still didn't even show a preview of what their gaming GPUs will look like and Raja Koduri has been there for what now? 3 years? And that's Intel, if they take that long, everyone else would take much longer. Also there is the problem with patented tech, you can't just build GPUs like Nvidia and AMD do because of that, Intel can because they already cooperate in the CPU market.
2021-03-05 09:57
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idk man, look at the phones they are all the same ... and how many brands doesn't seem like pattern tech is a big deal china gpu brand might be interesting xD
2021-03-05 10:07
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just go and read about it, its not comparable to smartphones. That is also the reason why we never saw any real competitors in the CPU market, X86 is owned by Intel, AMD64 by AMD and they cooperate to let them both use their patented tech.
2021-03-05 10:12
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Hungary Gulaash
amd has manufacturing issues... so even if they cut their prices there would be no more ryzen available...
2021-03-05 09:58
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kek - maybe they just said that to scalp the prices even more, looks like they are more than happy from their profits
2021-03-05 10:04
TSMC is the reason, not AMD.
2021-03-05 10:13
AMD won't care
2021-03-05 09:58
i5-7400 mensss
2021-03-05 10:50
Ofc they will, who will buy Ryzen then? No one cares about AMD when you have cheaper Intel. AMD = overpriced + outdated CPUs. Revenge, hate, war, despair. Intel = cheap + trustworthy. Forgiveness, peace, redemption.
2021-03-05 10:55
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Nigeria kamlot955
+1
2021-03-05 10:59
outdated? amd is ahead in terms of technology, intel is outdated and chasing hard to compete with amd, next will be very interesting new 10nm from intel and zen4 from amd I guess +ddr5 but i can't w8 so long for buying, too bad i need new pc for yesterday
2021-03-05 13:35
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I missed the part where Intel is outdated, sorry.
2021-03-05 15:34
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use more power ( W ) and extreme boosted clocks to get near results as adm, and other word their squeeze their 14nm to the total maximum to be able to compete
2021-03-06 16:17
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Fairy tails about more power, techprocess (when you don't even know what it this)
2021-03-06 16:59
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also intel is only competitive in single core performance and gaming, multicore performance dominated by amd
2021-03-07 00:14
"Revenge, hate, war, despair." "cheap + trustworthy. Forgiveness, peace, redemption." cringe
2021-03-05 21:54
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+1 emotions only distort perceptions, numbers are ruthless we are choosing technology, CPU, not a gf ffs xD
2021-03-05 23:57
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Germany mainak90
Here is Germany, Mindfactory is already selling the i7 11700K for a ~50 Euro premium over a 5800X. While atleast it benchmarks its on par or a tiny bit slower on multithreaded workloads than a 5800X. The 10th gen will stay surely, but lets say at this juncture if AMD just lowers their CPU prices, I think there is no right reason to buy Intel, atleast the 11th gen. If the 10th gen stays and its prices are further lowered then as a consumer I would either buy an AMD or a 10th gen CPU at lower price like the i9 10850K for more bang for my buck.
2021-03-05 11:02
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10700KF faster than 5800x, how can 11700K be slower? :3
2021-03-05 11:02
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#43
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Germany mainak90
Yeah right, where exactly?
2021-03-05 11:02
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Everywhere. Even 10700F can kick 5800x's ass.
2021-03-05 11:02
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#45
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Germany mainak90
If its in your mind then its fine, otherwise everywhere in the real world else be it gaming or even multithreaded workload, its not.
2021-03-05 11:04
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Not in my mind :3 Real tests (off sound): youtube.com/watch?v=uFJg5UaT_lU&t=1099s
2021-03-05 11:10
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#50
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Germany mainak90
So smart of you to embed a video link with the exact timestamp of the test where the Intel beats the AMD skipping all the other tests before it :)) Good one! Same video at different test though: youtu.be/uFJg5UaT_lU?t=1168 Also frankly it beat the 5800X in barely 2 gaming tests in total and pretty much lost every other. And who is this guy anyways? Maybe something in English would have helped me to understand what he was saying. Checkout HWunboxed : youtube.com/watch?v=UAPrKImEIVA Gamers Nexus : youtube.com/watch?v=6x2BYNimNOU Kitgurutech: youtube.com/watch?v=Hdf_D9Ho3Zc Anyways, probably the 11th gen can actually be competitive if Intel keeps prices right, but an 10700K/F/KF can't hold a candle to a 5800X in any way. Probably a 10900K can get closer and maybe yield better multicore result and i would admit if I didn't have an X470 board already, I would have probably bought an i9 10850K over a 5600X, but probably now I'll wait for the full 11th gen rollout so some price moves happen.
2021-03-05 11:28
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xDD, 10700f wins\equal to 5800x in most games, maybe in some games 5800x faster but should i say about +200-250 bucks to price for 5 to 10 fps?
2021-03-05 12:20
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#55
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Germany mainak90
200-250 bucks? I can see only 10700K where I live, and that's around 110-115 bucks(316 vs 430) below the price of a 5800X which considering its single and multithreaded performance where a 5800X is close to a 10900K on multithreaded scenarios makes perfect sense. Obviously it depends, on what you are doing gaming or doing content editing or other workloads which the OP wasn't clear on but even if that is the case, I would not buy either of these, and opt for an i9 10850K which is like 60 euroes over the price of a 10700K and is a vastly better product considering its price of 380/-
2021-03-05 12:32
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10700KF btw, not just K.
2021-03-05 12:33
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#57
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Germany mainak90
mindfactory ran out of it. How much is the 10850k though where you live? Am probably going for that one next month.
2021-03-05 12:34
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10850K = 529 bucks. 10700F = 330 bucks. 10700KF = 388 bucks. 10600KF = 225 bucks. I guess in Germany Ryzens have better price than in Russia. For example, 5600x for 388 bucks (same as 10700KF) But 10600KF can take 5600x without any problems.
2021-03-05 12:42
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#60
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Germany mainak90
Man! The 10850K alone is 380/- here which is a mighty great deal! Given I get a 10850K at this price, I wouldn't look at anything else. Too bad prices in Russia are so inflated :(
2021-03-05 12:44
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How much for 10600KF in Germany? And 10400F
2021-03-05 12:44
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#62
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Germany mainak90
10400F == 129/- mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Co.. I don't see the 10600F here, but maybe in other sites but I always trust mindfactory over any others. So the 10600kf is 190/- mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Co..
2021-03-05 12:47
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I'm glad that 10600KF isn't for 270+ bucks in Russia at least xD :D 10400f in Russia for 160 bucks. Thanks for info.
2021-03-05 12:49
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Germany mainak90
np :)
2021-03-05 12:49
If you watch the banchmarks the 5800x wins on most, its kinda rare for the 10700k to win.
2021-03-05 22:15
Imagine caring about companies who don't give a fuck about you. Buy what you like, why are kids so obessed with numbers these days? There hasn't been a big jump in CPUS in almost 10 years and today if you own something with over 4 cores you're fine for most games unless you won't 4k or some strong editing power. I went from a 7600k to a 5900x CSGO feels the same, it just allows me to play games like warzone more smoothly. The generational jumps that CPU's used to have are long gone.
2021-03-05 11:12
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Kids always were obsessed with numbers guess what adults too Or I am sure you’d not care getting 1k ausd less epr month else you’d just be a guy obsessed with numbers too Faster stronger bigger better that’s how the world works and has always worked
2021-03-05 11:26
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kek +1
2021-03-05 14:00
i worked hard for that money and i want best value for it so yes numbers matters imagine your coworker earn 10-20% more than you and work 5-10% less than u do, would be like - ah those are just some silly numbers (btw this really happens in big corps as far as i know :D, and they try to hide payrolls, at least in my country, in UK it was a little bit more transparent ) but i get your point as well I guess 80/20 rule 20% is what really makes a difference in cpus, 80% is marketing :D
2021-03-05 14:11
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It is marketing at this point yeah, I remember the jumps in the past particularly the sandy bridge era, the marketing feels like the jumps are massive but reality gaming performance it's like 5% here and there. Not sure of the salary analogy is the best because there is no cap and every dollar counts of course. But a CPU that produces 450 fps in CSGO compared to 550fps there literally is no gain. I also will always buy what's best value for money and this time around it was a 5900x, I'm not brand loyal.
2021-03-05 14:20
#101
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Slovakia VERGiLx
There is big difference between 1600x and 5600x, like hundred of FPS in single core intensive games like Diablo or LoL
2021-03-06 09:11
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That's AMD to AMD, I'm not brand loyal so what was the Intel chips back then ? 7700k 8700k? Still very useable today.
2021-03-06 09:19
Pure favoritism and tastes
2021-03-05 12:25
intel is building a 3rd brand of gpu, but i guess it'll take quite a long time
2021-03-05 12:37
who cars this cpu talk nowadays remembers me of OS talks in 2000's and browser talks in 2010's its all about gpu
2021-03-05 12:47
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there is no much choice in terms of OS, that's not even a choice if u are normal human being there is only windows if u are apple fan macos if u are hard nerd - linux browser market getting competive again: there is brave, vivaldi, opera, tor_browser firefox was left behind unfortunately
2021-03-05 14:16
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You say firefox is dead yet all the other mentioned browsers combined usage share is still behind ff
2021-03-05 15:04
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cuz firefox has decline trend - it was bigger way back then, before chrome dominated
2021-03-05 15:06
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the only reason firefox usage is going down is because chrome gets bigger and bigger, not because users switch to alternative browser such as those mentioned by you. (which tbf are just forks of chromium/firefox with little improvements or niche market - tor). there's no way firefox will be surpassed by those on desktop, unless a big tech company steps in (just like chromium edge started to rise after microsoft initiated an aggressive marketing campaign on windows)
2021-03-05 16:15
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