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I Feel for Cloud9
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Portugal random_boards 
Not that bad of a team, they have a lot of potential in terms of development especially if they cut the Americans off and invest on young talent. But no :) They have to be a top 5 team NOW, right Henry? They were designed for top 10 at LEAST since day 1 even though the team wasn't even set for top 20 BARELY. I feel for C9, they could be good but the pressure on them is massive.
2021-03-08 01:37
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es3tag and xeppaa are fine. rest are meh
2021-03-08 01:40
The Americans are the best players. Like quite literally their three best players are the cheapest ones. Funny how that works. Also Es3tag was straight trash in that series. I don't know what either of these posts are on about. The only potential in this team right now is Floppy, Xeppa and Mezzi. Estag is in the wrong fucking role and Alex is not a good IGL straight up.
2021-03-08 01:43
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+1 ALEX is an absolute dog, es3tag is ok sometimes and the rest are surprisingly doing really well
2021-03-08 01:43
es3tag can be really really good, he's a stronger version of niko and i believe ALEX is capable of making some great strats but FUCK they just cant make it work
2021-03-08 01:45
"The Americans are the best players" lmfao😂
2021-03-08 01:48
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I mean did you watch the game or even rread the box scores? lmfao?
2021-03-08 06:37
#39
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United States ShawnM
the cheapest players are performing the best don't be dumb
2021-03-11 04:24
#52
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United States poL_aris
its true
2021-03-11 04:54
#56
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United States Masshole
u mad bro?
2021-03-11 06:39
-ALEX +MSL
2021-03-08 03:20
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Honestly MSL is probably the better AWPer. Never thought I'd type that.
2021-03-08 06:38
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#41
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United States ShawnM
oh yeah good shout, awp and igl could work, imagine -alex + cadiaN or smth
2021-03-11 04:24
#43
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Romania SanitySP
esetag is fine WHEN YOU DONT PUT A RIFLER ON MAIN AWP
2021-03-11 04:25
#46
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Germany Droidd
pric3tag
2021-03-11 04:41
Damn, I feel for Cloud9, The team, culture, and fan base that I grew to love. Seems like when they’re at the bottom of the pit somehow it gets deeper. Remember how you guys came to be, how hungry and hard you guys worked. CS is nonstop and only gets harder. Good luck Cloud9!
2021-03-08 01:42
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Yeah me too.. I wonder how NA scene would look like nowadays if those ibuypower players didnt get caught matchfixing.
2021-03-08 07:29
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#44
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Romania SanitySP
the NA scene would be filled with suspicious upsets
2021-03-11 04:26
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Sorry i wasnt clear in my comment. I meant to comment this way: 'if they weren't matchfixers'.
2021-03-12 16:07
at first it was funny, now it's just sad and pitiful
2021-03-08 02:01
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+1 With the amount of money the invested they could've straight up bought a top10 roster. They could've even built a better team using only free agents.
2021-03-11 04:47
#8
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Russia Kalacia
first change needs to be alex for sure
2021-03-08 02:02
#9
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United States Bhu_Tang
cutting floppy and xeppaa 0/8
2021-03-08 02:05
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+1
2021-03-08 06:53
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Kuwait roye
i also feel a bit for clown9 HAA not :D but its normal if woxic cant handle top tier dont think it will be easy for second tier to handle top t.
2021-03-08 02:06
the roles in the team are just stupid, everyone on the team is individually good (except maybe the britts) they just need to kick mezii for an awper, give es3tag back his aggressive roles, and give floppy back his lurker roles
2021-03-08 02:26
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Of course henryg would make a team around the britts, that was the first step for doom.
2021-03-11 04:49
C9 could have picked up a decent team but instead put belief in a IGL who was carried by Zywoo and a manager/coach who is a caster. Nice money wasted
2021-03-08 02:27
#14
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United States Slyckz
xeppa and floppy are the best things about that team what are you smoking
2021-03-08 02:28
Imagine blaming the NA players when it is clear that the issues are roles and teamplay which places responsibility on HenryG, Elmapuddy(coach), and Alex(IGL). The na(and mezii) players are fulfilling their fragging roles and es3tag is being forced to awp which he clearly struggles with. All in all ur take is 0/8
2021-03-08 02:28
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+1 mate, +1...
2021-03-08 02:33
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bud a bup bup it's mere, mree
2021-03-08 07:37
All that stupid shite about being a "Colossus" They're colossal clowns
2021-03-08 02:28
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1. Dont blame the players for the "Colossus" stuff. 2. The only clown here is HenryG.
2021-03-08 02:32
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I don't think you can reasonably just leave ALEX out of the clown discussion. How a team plays is very much a reflection of their IGL. You can however pin all the Colossus garbage on HenryG, and I'm sure the pressure is affecting everyone involved in negative ways. Especially es3tag looks nothing like the consistent player he was in his previous teams as somehow Henry was hell bent on making him the star player he'll never be.
2021-03-08 02:48
Trust me, I don't blame the players. I was put in the same position 20 years ago when my team began scrimming with CPL teams like 3D and SK through mIRC. I'll never forget our "coach" went on this mad campaign to hype us as "the new best team" in NA. Our next scrim had something like 800 new people in our channel and we got utterly torn apart by Team 3D on Train... 16-4 if I remember correctly. I was only 15 but i learnt a lesson; shut up and do your talking on the server. Or as device would say: don't talking please
2021-03-11 04:04
#19
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Australia Aquaaa
Biggest waste of money in the history of CS scene...
2021-03-08 02:44
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Everyone knew they doomed after woxic kick there is no awpers Out there. I mean ottond is good but he already got better team with flusha
2021-03-11 06:37
es3tags price tag is way too high floppy is the only one that seems to clutch consistently on that team but overall is just average. mezii I honestly dk what to think. In the beginning stages imo it should have been him OR floppy as a developmental player, not both. alex is underwhelming strat wise it seems on anything but overpass and he literally tk'd es3tag twice today when it mattered. He ain't it rn. Xeppa is doing okay for first time playing high enough tier EU CS
2021-03-08 02:54
The Americans are the best players on the team lol.
2021-03-08 02:59
Yeah c9 and og are dogshit but let's not forget that VACtor and co and insane players The real shame is that clown9 and 0g keep getting invites over more deserving tier 3 teams
2021-03-08 03:15
Yea the americans are the problem, not the igl that consistently keeps leading them to L's
2021-03-08 06:50
Vita did an amazing job in selling Alex, for overprice, and then improving after the sell
2021-03-08 06:52
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es3tag too lol
2021-03-11 04:21
They need to cut ALEX, he's so overrated, and massively overpaid
2021-03-08 06:55
Xeppa is good
2021-03-08 07:00
Why would there be a pressure??its not like someone made their salaries n transfer fees public . So everyone will expect thm to perform from day 1... And of course analysts are so successful in team coaching n management like yanko, moses
2021-03-08 07:09
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#42
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United States fowlyz
Well yanko did help create a faze team that was top 1 for a while and made it to the major finals and moses is doing pretty good with Liquid for now.
2021-03-11 04:25
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#45
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Slovakia Daev0n
No lmao. Ynk was not part of that team. Are you even watching the scene?
2021-03-11 04:33
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#47
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United States fowlyz
Ah sorry I picked the wrong time period. I'm pretty sure that was robban who was the coach at that time right? I really don't pay attention to coaches on teams I give no shits about tbh.
2021-03-11 04:45
#38
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United States fowlyz
The problem is with the structure of the team and the strats and roles being used. Floppy, xeppaa es3tag are more than enough firepower to win games only under the right leadership. They said they wanted a 6 man roster so why not get a full time awper and make mezii a 6th player since he has shown himself to be pretty impactful in lots of rounds and an overall good support player. Either ALEX needs to make changes to the team play and formation or they get a new IGL.
2021-03-11 04:23
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it is not enough firepower for top 5 imo. they got esetag as their "star player" but the guy did not play as the star player in his career, and put him in entry role anyway getting woxic and removing him instantly was dumb aswell, he was one of their better performers. if og wants to stay with issaa, c9 should have given woxic more chance imo. the team is worth 7 million dollars but it does not have a star player you build your team around, it is kinda dumb
2021-03-11 04:52
In *My* opinion, floppy has been looking the most in-form, both by the eye-test and actual stats, his value as a solid rifler and an anchor in a team like this is super important to have the mid-round players work out. If this team is to succeed they need more aggressive players that can get the rest of the pack to the mid-round faster.
2021-03-11 04:24
#51
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India Relunk
NO they are clowns
2021-03-11 04:52
#53
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United States julianwb
-henryG then they are top 10
2021-03-11 04:57
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no.
2021-03-11 06:41
Should've just signed flusha+autimatic, maybe BnTet, when they were available instead of going for this international shit fest. Bet ohsee would've stuck around with floppy and played for that lineup. Would've been cheaper and just as productive. autimatic floppy flusha Bntet/xeppa osee
2021-03-11 06:48
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