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Smurf Elo hell
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Argentina Proxx_Arg 
Hello everyone! I was wondering what's the mm rank where you can find the most smurf accounts in your opinion? I have no problems in reaching sherif but once in that rank I found a lot of steam level 0-1, 400hrs and those kind of things so I assume they are smurfs
2021-03-08 14:27
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delusion
2021-03-08 14:28
7 replies
+1
2021-03-08 14:29
#4
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
why?
2021-03-08 14:34
2 replies
cant handle that a guy with 400 hours is already better than you with your 1200 hours? LOL
2021-03-08 16:30
#95
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Czech Republic fnx_legend
cuz he is very simple jerman
2021-03-08 17:20
#75
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Czech Republic fnx_legend
i bet you don't even play csgo anymore LOOOOOL
2021-03-08 15:57
2 replies
cant handle that a guy with 400 hours is already better than you with your 1200 hours? LOL
2021-03-08 16:30
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#94
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Czech Republic fnx_legend
and who is delusional and esimate here, 5k hours, global/sup, but if you start a new acc, gl with your experience :) mostly smurfs and cheaters, that's an empirical fax
2021-03-08 17:18
What
2021-03-08 14:29
3 replies
#5
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
My english was too bad?
2021-03-08 14:35
2 replies
No, its good, but people dont know what sherif is tho
2021-03-08 14:58
1 reply
#38
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Yeah I found out that, it's dmg
2021-03-08 15:01
noone smurf in mm, 90% of those accounts are just cheaters
2021-03-08 14:35
6 replies
#11
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
I'm pretty sure they are not cheater but my you are right
2021-03-08 14:36
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lots of cheaters are still dogshit at the game. Also some cheaters will just let you win because they can't win without cheating more obviously.
2021-03-08 14:46
#29
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Finland Jonttu2002
its the opposite more likely
2021-03-08 14:54
just get prime bro
2021-03-08 14:59
+1
2021-03-08 16:06
+1 no good players would need an alt acc to smurf on mm
2021-03-08 17:26
#7
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Sweden naztyy
low trust factor is where you find smurfs/cheaters i have no idea if there are more smurfs at lower ranks compared to higher ranks tho
2021-03-08 14:37
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#14
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
I dont think I have a low trust factor anyway
2021-03-08 14:39
yeah, lot of smurfs on top3 highest ranks.. Make sense..
2021-03-08 15:18
#8
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Europe Pflatzi
yeah from mge to LE i think half of the matches is against supreme smurfs or smth like that. But most of them braindead aimers
2021-03-08 14:36
17 replies
Tell my why would a supreme go to the trouble of making a smurf acc and going to mge - le? If you are dogshit at the game, at least make a better excuse than "supreme smurfing 2 ranks lower"
2021-03-08 15:08
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#50
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Europe Pflatzi
then i'm wondering why i get matched agains 200-400hr accounts all the time (on LE level) that aim like globals and actually know how to play the game properly
2021-03-08 15:11
15 replies
Because they are either globals or faceit lvl6< . I get your point but I seriously doubt that a supreme would go through all the trouble to play two ranks lower.
2021-03-08 15:13
13 replies
I used to have 5 accounts, 4 of them simultaneous global around 2016-17. All the accounts had to be grinded to global and I got fed up playing in global since the challenge isn't really that much bigger but there is absolutely no reward in winning a game in global. You can't rank up, only down. That's why I ended up playing several accounts to global. You can't reach GE immediately and in cases of some of the accounts, they're owned by a friend of mine.. He started CSGO when the 2 match wins/day bs came. He played 2 wins and bought a new account to continue playing afterwards. And by my experience, there's a shitton of smurfs likewise to my experience. Some try to grind ELO to sell accounts, others just do it because GE is boring and some are afraid of losing their MM rank on their main especially if they play with lower skilled IRLs and then there are the boosters..
2021-03-08 15:46
12 replies
Didn't think about it that way at all. First thing that came to mind was people smurfing to pwn others. Thanks for reminding that other smurfing exists too :D (or D: idk in this case)
2021-03-08 15:49
5 replies
Yeah, those who can not make it in their main skillgroup and result in pwning lower tier players instead on a smurf are just plain bad players. You will never advance if you keep dumbing down the competition. :)
2021-03-08 15:53
4 replies
It is fun though. Im supreme in mm yet silver 3 in wingman. Pretty fun to outplay everyone once in a while.
2021-03-08 15:54
3 replies
True, but it doesn't elevate your skill really when you take a opponent who doesn't have the capability to respond to your plays or even the slightest of chances to out-play you. It's fun occasionally and I did enjoy grinding my accounts to global at the time but there is a point when it just starts to feel mundane and you get so much more out of playing with better than decent players and playing together against opposition that can match you.
2021-03-08 15:56
2 replies
Absolutely. Nothing beats a close game with players of your own skill or slightly better.
2021-03-08 15:58
1 reply
+1
2021-03-08 16:16
#87
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
In you case wouldn't it be better to play faceit so when you reach lvl 10 you can get higher elo? And you can even win money there I think
2021-03-08 16:40
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Yes, but at the time I was playing with a 4G-connection on a sub-par setup to play Faceit properly. I preferred MM for that reason. I also had severe performance issues with the Faceit AC at the time.
2021-03-08 16:44
Literally cannot understand why you would continue playing MM after hitting global alone in 2020. Just play faceit/ESEA etc you'll get better opposition/self improvement.
2021-03-08 17:21
3 replies
I did not say 2020. :) I specifically said 2016-2017. I've only played the occasional matches of MM after that. Also, I specified that in that time I did not prefer playing Faceit over MM because I had a sub-par setup and connection which put me at a drastic disadvantage in FaceIt and it was not a pleasure to play, for me.
2021-03-08 17:34
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I was referring to 'And by my experience, there's a shitton of smurfs likewise to my experience' which is relevant to OP who is playing MM rn, so the 2016-17 thing doesn't really apply. Also, the sub-par connection and set-up is a) insane you made global with and b) usually not a thing most globals face (no stats just educated guess about how much advantage set up gives to reach highest rank)
2021-03-08 17:37
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Yeah true, but in 2016 it was different. Not everyone especially in MM had a 144Hz display for example. Obviously a good setup has always been a advantage, but then a bad setup wasn't AS BIG of a disadvantage and I've played all iterations of CS, guess that'd give you a edge. =) I don't play nearly enough MM to comment on todays situation.
2021-03-09 10:29
I'm LEM but sometimes i play with my bro's silver account with his friends silvers/novas sometimes i q with my friends with theirs smurfs or mains so ye after the game you can see sth like silver 4 silver 2 dmg nova who's shooting good etc. There are a lot of cheaters but smurfs too but if you decent at the game you can see who's cheating and who's not by movement peeks and so on.
2021-03-09 08:01
The trench never ends men. Even at global you can find lvl 10 faceit wannabe pros who just shit on every globel
2021-03-08 14:36
8 replies
+1 for comment and for the name
2021-03-08 14:48
#27
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Well when I was on gn I had the hope that I'd find no more smurfs at dmg or le but my hope is gone lol
2021-03-08 14:53
and then s1mple drops 69 frags against genuine pros in fpl. Someone probably will always be better than you at cs.
2021-03-08 15:14
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#68
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United States GGtho
You just need the bfg to shit on anyone and plenty of hrs to practise, gaming is ezy if you know where you're lacking and are tryna improve on it.
2021-03-08 15:38
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It's easy but I still don't want to spend a lot of time infront of the comp grinding my sprays and watching pro demos.
2021-03-08 15:47
That is not smurfing tho. Once you are global, you cannot be a smurf in your main anymore, cause that is pretty much saying "you are too good for mm, you are not allowed to play here anymore".
2021-03-08 16:03
2 replies
Are you ok mens?
2021-03-08 16:08
+1 how are you 'smurfing' if the ranking system doesn't have a rank that matches your skill that's not your fault
2021-03-08 17:22
with sherif i'm guessing you're meaning dmg? anyway from what i've gatherd mg1-dmgs smurf in gn ranks and le-globals smurf in mg ranks, now you have to remember 50% of people in higher ranks are boosted silvers, so some "smurfs" are actually boosted people playing their actual rank
2021-03-08 14:36
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#15
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Yeah I mean dmg, sorry I used the "spanish" name because I thought it was the same
2021-03-08 14:41
lvl 3-5. Idk but this is my best guess from a little experience
2021-03-08 14:39
1 reply
#16
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Yeah maybe
2021-03-08 14:42
#13
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Czech Republic LidoOP
Gold 3 - MG
2021-03-08 14:39
10 replies
#17
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Yeah maybe, I hate smurf even more that cheaters
2021-03-08 14:42
9 replies
why? smurf can be beaten if u outplay them cheaters u just lose cause they will ragehack harder
2021-03-08 14:44
7 replies
story of my life, win some crucial lucky clutches in first half, hit some nice shots. enemy cheater "oh shit, someone is actually good gotta toggle!!"
2021-03-08 14:47
2 replies
thats what happens most of the time win 5-0 then soft toggle to 10-5 half, second half full blatant 11-16
2021-03-08 14:48
1 reply
yeah, always one guy on my team (usually bottomfrag) "meennnn he's not cheating!!!" random ass steam/faceit account displaying 2015 Flusha Katowice level gamesense and reads round after round after round after round.
2021-03-08 14:50
#24
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Well beacuse I think cheaters can get ban someday (I know Valve gives a shi* about it) but you can do nothing against a smurf. If you and your team are gn and in the other there is a supreme - global smurf its impossible for your team to win the map
2021-03-08 14:51
3 replies
true but at least in this case if you are really looking to improve you can watch demo and spectate the higher rank enemies and learn something. You can't learn anything from closet cheaters except how to be a low T beta.
2021-03-08 14:53
2 replies
#58
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Yeah but if I want to improve I can watch a demo of a pro or look a demo of a global player, dont need to get destroy by a smurf getting "fun"
2021-03-08 15:17
1 reply
true, you'll learn more from a pro demo for sure
2021-03-08 15:18
#78
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Canada free_ropz
ayoo what?
2021-03-08 16:05
There are many smurf in silver that use their friend's account, idk i felt that just destroy the fun of the game
2021-03-08 14:51
14 replies
I used to go over my silver friends house and he'd let me play a few rounds, it definitely felt wrong.
2021-03-08 14:54
8 replies
IKR, but it felt so fun to be back on silver again like no one is trying hard
2021-03-08 14:56
5 replies
get one fast HS and instantly get called a cheater XD
2021-03-08 14:57
#48
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
2021-03-08 15:07
One time the game ranked me in silver because my rank decayed (was dmg). I could win every duel on reaction time and aim alone. I find that it gets tough at around supreme level. LEMs are easy for me, globals and supremes are hard.
2021-03-08 15:11
2 replies
Supreme and Global are home to cheaters sadly :(
2021-03-08 15:15
1 reply
Idk I try not to think that way. If someone is better than me I try to work on my game, even if they are using cheats. Not that I am great as a lvl4 but playing against hard opponents really helps me improve.
2021-03-08 15:18
#37
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
I dont see the point of smurfing.. I mean you are going to win and probably have great k/d but you know that's not your level and you are not actually helping your friends either because when they play without you they will probable lose and also ruin others players match because they are in a higher rank than they deserve
2021-03-08 15:00
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exactly, how you practice is how you play. I think you hit the nail on the head to why NA CS struggled so much historically against strong EU teams. So much time seemed to be spent streaming random ESEA/Faceit pugs stomping non-pros or even playing MM. "hahah im so good destroying these noobs running around the map no brain" Then this type of playstyle bled into the style of NA scrims leading to very ineffective practice. Compare scrim meta in EU vs NA.
2021-03-08 15:03
#30
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Totally, when you are in a winning streak it is highly likely you get against smurf/cheater next match
2021-03-08 14:56
4 replies
It's better to face smurf actually, atleast you can analyze their movement and crosshair placement, but when i faced cheater, my team and i just throw the whole game
2021-03-08 15:03
3 replies
I just write many comments to the cheaters. Not nasty comments but comments that make them reflect on their life.
2021-03-08 15:04
1 reply
#52
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
I just try to report them as many times as I can so at least they get a low trust factor, but probably that doesnt work for anything
2021-03-08 15:13
#45
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Yeah but if I want to analyze all that I can watch a demo of a pro or a global player, dont need to get destroy by a smurf getting "fun"
2021-03-08 15:05
#35
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Korea Weeataku
Silver and when you have to play 10 matches to get a rank. - Source my cousin who started playing recently and I Lvl 5 played together and can confirm that there are a lot of newbies peeking you like an MG would
2021-03-08 14:59
3 replies
#41
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
if you play with a new accout with no rank Im pretty sure you find a lot of cheaters right?
2021-03-08 15:04
2 replies
#44
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Korea Weeataku
Actually it's not as frequent as you think it is. lets say in 20 games 8 had cheaters (average 3/4 cheaters in a match or full team cheating)
2021-03-08 15:05
1 reply
#54
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
I use to watch the overwatch thing, I think all those spinbot hackers must be on silver rank with new accounts
2021-03-08 15:14
sherif
2021-03-08 15:00
1 reply
I like sheriff more than DMG tbh
2021-03-08 15:06
#42
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Finland R3ALMM
MGE-DMG every match has atleast 5 smurfs/cheaters
2021-03-08 15:04
MGE-LE ofc.
2021-03-08 15:05
2 replies
#57
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
well my rank will never get any higher than sherif then lol
2021-03-08 15:15
1 reply
hahahaha actually will, but in a closed party is easier
2021-03-08 15:18
#63
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Ukraine Dert_
ranks system "user experience" is completely broken, you'll find all random players all over the way, it's only needed to see if you mature enough. and if bought account / boosted it would be seen. the biggest con is of cause that you still need to waste time to all this ranking up...
2021-03-08 15:23
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#66
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
I know, I wish the trust factor stuff works better. I wish valve add to csgo mm the same they have on dota2 ranked. If you want to play a mm match then you need at least a certain amount of hours on the game, not just dm, they shoud add something like a non ranked matches and spend 100hrs there before mm
2021-03-08 15:32
1 reply
#67
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Ukraine Dert_
there is no way to fix it, because the only factor is human itself unlike rpg's etc :)
2021-03-08 15:34
why are people still complaining about mm? Just go play faceit, or would you rather stick with the perfect anti cheat Valve Allows Cheats?
2021-03-08 15:28
4 replies
you're delusional if you think Faceit AC is any significant step up. ESEA actually bans cheaters.
2021-03-08 15:31
#86
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Im pretty sure there are a lot of smurf on faceit/esea as well
2021-03-08 16:37
1 reply
ofc there will be smurfs and cheaters there aswell, I'm fine with people choosing to play mm, but complaining about smurfs/cheaters in 2021 annoys me. Everone knows that pretty much anyone can cheat on mm. With either small effort of browing cheat forums or small amount of money for mm cheats possible, why would you not switch to faceit/esea even if your game experience just gets a little bit better?
2021-03-08 16:44
Yes i agree, mm is so so outdated everyone should just go play faceit, even free version is 100x better than mm.
2021-03-14 00:50
mm? even globals in mm are so bad, no possible to smurf mm
2021-03-08 16:08
#83
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China SwooksarV2
Uh, either silver or the AK rank. (mg2-mge)
2021-03-08 16:18
Definitely mg for some reason
2021-03-08 16:42
Nova I
2021-03-08 16:43
#92
ropz | 
United States DV19
Silver but, Nova is easier to smurf bc people start to play less braindead, but aim still not good
2021-03-08 16:46
2 replies
#111
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Now that i'm on DMG gets more smurfs than I used to on silver and nova
2021-03-08 19:12
1 reply
#116
ropz | 
United States DV19
I feel like there's no point in smurfing in DMG tho, I feel like they are mostly high level faceit players who decide to play in MM, or closet cheaters
2021-03-09 03:20
cph best team of all time
2021-03-08 16:53
global elite
2021-03-08 19:14
2 replies
#113
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Argentina Proxx_Arg
Global elite are smurf from faceit level 10?
2021-03-08 19:16
1 reply
no from fpl
2021-03-08 19:40
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