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Realistic OG +2
Brollan | 
Sweden Nappev 
AleksiB Valde Mantuu Roles needed to be filled are lurk and an anchor with experience, kind of an support that takes hard roles such as hard-entry and holding B bombsites. Altough i think firepower should be prioritized. We can rule out frozenn and ropz straight away as they signed new contracts with mouz and recently updted their roster. Stop being stupid and thinking they will disband after changing their IGL after 2 whole years for a new one without getting results straight away. Flusha can also be ruled out as he wants to igl, but its not completely impossible as players are easy to come by. My prediction is that they sign benched or t2-3 players. I think they will sign Niko and Michu. Remember that OG isnt exactly the biggest of orgs that can buy out anyone, like Nivera as G2 will probably try to take him. TLDR Realistic signings for OG? (Its not going to be ropz, frozen, and probably not flusha or nivera) keep in mind OG is a small org and roles needed to fill out are lurker and a sacrificial hard entry/B bombsite holder support.
2021-03-16 16:39
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why would mouz sell their 2 best players? Lots of people saying 2 of them but i agree with u. Its gonna be some free agents i think
2021-03-16 16:43
17 replies
why not? do you think they will acheive something with their current roster?
2021-03-16 16:41
idk tell my why
2021-03-16 16:41
afaik ropz's contract is ending soon and I can guess he isn't feeling fine in current mouz line-up + multiple good teams would like to sign him
2021-03-16 16:43
7 replies
Signed new one late 2020 i believe. Probably 1-2 years.
2021-03-16 16:49
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#90
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Denmark Yikesslol
source?
2021-03-16 18:25
5 replies
"I believe" his faith is the sauce
2021-03-16 19:00
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#126
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United States teppu
ropz mentioned it in an interview, i think it was with thorin. interview is from 2 months ago if its the one im thinking of youtube.com/watch?v=F2KvZbTjlSA
2021-03-16 19:25
#130
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Denmark Yikesslol
yeah for sure
2021-03-16 19:31
it is very normal that young talents sign at least a 2-year contract maybe 3.
2021-03-21 10:21
thorin and richard lewis :)
2021-03-16 19:33
Because it would be insane and on paper a good fit. But its like faze buying s1mple and electronic from navi to replace rain and broky.
2021-03-16 16:50
3 replies
no its different because this mouz team will never be good, and navi is one of the best teams in the world
2021-03-16 18:38
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Denmark lilbitmaw
hahahah navi one of the best in the world xdxdxd
2021-03-21 14:42
Well yes but no. The only reason i dont believe in ropz going to OG is because of his loyalty to mouz, they gave him a chance at the top tier from FPL, he's only ever been on mouz.
2021-03-16 19:23
because they are a small org who dont have tons of money, and this roster they have now will never be a top 10 team. no reason to have 2 valuable assets sitting on an ok roster wasting their time when they can sell them and make money
2021-03-16 18:37
mouz is living off of selling good players to better teams
2021-03-17 19:45
Because they're a selling org, it's literally what they have done for over a decade.
2021-03-21 22:37
MiCHU Calyx both of them are free I guess, so great choice
2021-03-16 16:40
10 replies
WTF why michu mens U should be next OG player !!!!!
2021-03-16 16:47
4 replies
Yeah I would definitely bring OG to top3, but atm I'm looking forward for C9 offer, cause I heard they pay tons of money
2021-03-16 17:24
3 replies
WTF mens u rather be under ALEX than aleksiGOD?
2021-03-16 17:26
2 replies
He rather be under the money.
2021-03-16 20:33
money, and they have the funny twitter guy
2021-03-17 01:04
But what about best italian mirage player?
2021-03-16 16:55
3 replies
I'm waiting for an offer from Cloud9. I've heard they pay a lot of cash
2021-03-16 17:23
2 replies
Smart
2021-03-16 17:28
#83
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Germany Xrageon
I am pretty sure the other Orgs at least play the same if not more
2021-03-16 18:14
michu could be a pretty good entry,he showed to be promising in his career but he never got a real team with him.Wonder what Aleksib could do with him
2021-03-21 10:50
niko if his buyout is low otherwise, mhl, michu, calyx, espiranto are all probably the best they can go for rn
2021-03-16 16:41
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as long as they have Mantuu i doubt they will choose mhl
2021-03-16 16:41
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they'd have to move mantuu to rifling, but he looks better rifling than he does awping at the moment
2021-03-16 16:42
All are downgrades from ISSAA and niko
2021-03-16 17:01
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Yea, OG chose a really dumb time to be doing these moves I just hope that, if LAN return before the contract expires, OG give him another chance to prove himself without the 80 ping disadvantage
2021-03-16 17:16
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There wont be unless they tryout different players and non work out, which i doubt happens. When OG was on lans ISSAA was consistent in terms of fragging. He only rlly become inconsistent after online.
2021-03-16 18:16
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Indonesia woooi15
og small org?
2021-03-16 16:41
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#11
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
arent they notorious for investing little in the CS roster?
2021-03-16 16:42
28 replies
Exactly this
2021-03-16 17:13
You can change
2021-03-17 00:43
1 reply
So far its correct
2021-03-17 01:00
“investing little in cs roster” is not equivalent to small organisation
2021-03-17 04:28
24 replies
you are the only one who didnt get the point. If your org doesnt want to invest in some branch it might as well be taken as small org
2021-03-17 16:08
23 replies
that not how it works lmao
2021-03-17 22:59
22 replies
0/8 If you seriously think OG and faze(or any other big org) can be compared in CS because they are both big orgs when OG is notorious for spending little money on their CSGO division you are braindead
2021-03-17 23:21
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as mentioned earlier “spending little money” is not equivalent to them being a small organisation. one example of a small organisation will be mousesports
2021-03-19 02:37
20 replies
Large ORG that doesnt invest their assets into CSGO. Are you intentionally dense?
2021-03-19 07:43
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og thread : “remember that OG isn’t exactly the biggest organisation that can buy anyone” your comment: “if your organisation doesn’t want to invest in some branch it might be as well taken as a small organisation” The og thread creator and YOU simply had no knowledge that even though OG are investing little in their csgo team as compared to their dota team, they are still a large organisation that had the capacity to buy anyone. Furthermore based on ur comment logic, if a big organisation is not willing to invest in one of their branch as they might not see a future in it, they will be considered that as a small organisation, that so simply stupid. You are basically implying that VALVE IS A SMALL ORGANISATION since they are not investing as much resource into csgo as compared to dota. FYI valve is investing more resource and time to dota than csgo, so they are considered as a small organisation based on your logic isnt it?
2021-03-21 09:06
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Your explanation shows how braindead you are. I never called them small org i said them investing little money in CS validates the "organisation that can buy anyone" part which is absolutely correct. Also yes valve does invest very little in CS and it literally shows. Faciet and esea are more popular than normal MM etc. Thats unheard of in others compettitive games for last 5 years. Third party competitive has been dead for years except CS. It also shows on development etc. But again expected from someone who thinks he is right based on some retarded scemantic
2021-03-21 13:19
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“you didnt call them small organisation”, such irony when u mentioned above “if your organisation doesnt want to invest in some branch,it might be as well taken as a small organisation” I LITERALLY PROVE YOU RIGHT WITH MY VALVE EXPLANATION AND YOU HAD TO DRAG IN FACEIT AND ESEA WHEN THEY ARE SO UNRELATED, IT SHOW HOW EGOISTIC YOU ARE THINKING YOU ARE RIGHT, WHEN I LITERALLY COUNTER U WITH YOUR OWN LOGIC MAYBE TRY TO REREAD YOUR SENTENCE BEFORE COMMENTING LMAO.
2021-03-21 16:19
16 replies
So taking them as small org in CS is same as saying they are small org overall? Are you ok?
2021-03-21 16:23
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which you prove my first points right, investing little is not equivalent to being a small organisation. As i said earlier, REREAD BEFORE U COMMENT LMAO
2021-03-21 22:34
14 replies
"expected from someone who thinks he is right based on some retarded scemantic" while we are on the topic of reading
2021-03-21 23:33
13 replies
“some retarded scemantic” when it based on your words, who the retarded now with no counter argument?
2021-03-23 00:19
12 replies
Holy shit you are actually that slow. there is no point explaining anything to you since you cant even comprehend me quoting myslef as showcase of you not reading.
2021-03-23 10:03
11 replies
As i said earlier, please try harder when u have no counter argument
2021-03-23 10:15
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Counter arguments to what? "tHeY aRe BiG oRg ThO" Yes they are overall and they are not in CS >CS forum >Talking about CS roster moves >About ORG that doesnt invest much in CS branch >"tHeY aRe BiG oRg ThO" Literally you
2021-03-23 10:27
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As i said earlier, reread what you said and what i said, you are really confusing yourself do you, need me to copy and paste everything into a doc for you to comprehend? do i need to do that?
2021-03-23 16:40
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i have read it (multiple times) and #201 is 100% correct yet you dont adress it. Funny isnt it
2021-03-23 16:48
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Funny how u said u read it multiple times yet u mentioned about roster move in #201,something we didnt even talk about. Still waiting for you to counter my valve example which is based on YOUR logic tho, aren’t u the little fella then. Please reread #169 again and reread #184 which i clearly pointed out your own mistake: “you didnt call them small organisation”, such irony when u mentioned above “if your organisation doesnt want to invest in some branch,it might be as well taken as a small organisation” IT REALLY FUNNY HOW YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF,BIG L
2021-03-24 00:04
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>Name of the thread > "something we didnt even talk about" "valve example" > valve example shows exactly how it doesnt work But after seeing those qoutes i realize you are too stupid to understand what i meant but you know i knew that from first comment i just didnt know how stupid you really are
2021-03-24 08:04
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valve example show how wrong your logic is, cant accept that you lost the argument and decide to say the example is wrong when it based on your logic second our argument went off the trail when u decide to talk about faceit and esea, such irony from you, continuously insulting me being stupid when u failed to provide counter arguments, sounds like a 13 year old kid to me
2021-03-27 04:47
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If you think CS:GO is in healthy spot because valve invests in it and not because it has been proven concept that just works than you are delusional i cannot write arguments if you are not living in reality.
2021-03-27 10:40
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I didnt even mentioned csgo is a healthy spot, u are really providing irrelevan counter arguments and putting words into my mouth ,once again u failed, keep trying
2021-03-31 11:55
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>CSGO is getting pushed out by valorant because CS was getting less attention over the years -> competition is getting ahead. If valve wants to keep their spot they have to invest money and time to fix it. >OG getting worse due to management not having time for them because they arent as invested which results in NBK and aleksi falling out, which results in poorer results -> 2 kicks from the team so OG now has to invest money to fix it. Do you see how exactly your point of valve is literally the same as OG and how exactly it disproves "but they big org tho" point?
2021-03-31 13:14
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valve wasnt my point but was an example based on your logic to prove you wrong,maybe reread the whole argument which i told u for like the 3rd time??? Firstly u failed to prove your point #217 which you tried to put words into my mouth,secondly, u failed to reread the whole arguments and providing irrelevant counter arguments show how egoistic and how despo you are trying to win this argument, once again, try harder. Conclusion, your comment #217 which you tried to put words into my mouth clearly killed yourself, secondly for the last time my valve example was based on your logic,which prove how wrong you are as you tried to provide tons of irrelevant counter arguments, so you are literally trying to find arguments to counter your own words, which show how lost you are, do you even realise that?
2021-04-01 06:27
#17
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Finland kalza1
yea thats what im thinking, 2 time TI winner, redbull team they should have the money
2021-03-16 16:43
3 replies
exactly
2021-03-21 10:39
They don't
2021-03-27 07:06
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#218
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Finland kalza1
how tho?
2021-03-27 15:19
can yo uboth just take a minute and read through the whole thread lmao
2021-03-23 11:34
They probably get niko and borup since they are on the bench.
2021-03-16 16:41
4 replies
niko is an upgrade but borup certainly isnt
2021-03-16 16:42
1 reply
true
2021-03-16 16:44
+1 very likely honestly. A package deal.
2021-03-16 16:57
1 reply
Not likely at all since its not even an upgrade to what they had.
2021-03-16 19:23
Both niko and michu are entry fraggers. Michu/niko + bubzkji looks better imo
2021-03-16 16:42
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I think niko is more than just an entry. I think hes one of those players you can see in fnatic where anyone could be entry or support, while having loose structures like olofmeister creating space etc. michu to me just seems like a talented aimer. I would pit michu as entry and niko in the hrder roles.
2021-03-16 16:58
OG isn't exactly a small org, I got no clue where this statement is coming from. In reality it is likely that they will take 1 of the benched players, but I could see 1 buyout coming in (regarding ropz). It would make sense on every level.
2021-03-16 16:42
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I think he meant that OG doesn't spend alot on their CS team, but if they for some reason decide to invest alot they could buy almost literally anyone.
2021-03-16 16:54
They are like a lesser astralis man, player owned org with only a dota and csgo team. And its not like they paid the big money for their csgo roster. They share gaming houses with the dota team too. And ever comment that og is a large org comes from someone with a finnish flag, why?
2021-03-16 16:56
3 replies
+1 you don't miss wtf
2021-03-16 17:25
there was an jerax radio interview where he said that theyre getting full support from red bull and that they dont rly have to think about money at all, they just play. but idk if red bull is willing to give them money to buyouts.
2021-03-16 17:43
You seem to undervalue redbull quite a lot. Being one of the biggest sponsors both in sports and esports and they are the main sponsor of OG. And yes, it is a player owned org, by the players that have earned the most in any esports, period. They have the cash if they want to, but do they want to invest is other question.
2021-03-16 17:43
The probable reason they went for mantuu (when there were tried and tested elite awpers on the market) was OG didn't want to spend too much money on the roster. Maybe that's changed, but I doubt it. The "small org" refers to how much they are willing to spend.
2021-03-16 17:06
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It was nbk who requested to get mantuu though. See hltv confirmed with aleksib. The first one i believe. They went for t2 proven talent like valde, issaa and mantuu. Valde in north was a t2 team but hes obviously not :) you know what i mean.
2021-03-16 17:08
lollipop and niko
2021-03-16 16:43
calyx and mıchu
2021-03-16 16:43
#20
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Greece m3s0v
Bubzjki and Nivera both benched both fit roles entry & lurker
2021-03-16 16:47
1 reply
Both high buyout and one doesnt want to leave astralis.
2021-03-16 16:52
anyone would be better than Michu
2021-03-16 16:49
niko and kjaerbye - would be decent picks for them in my opinion
2021-03-16 16:50
2 replies
+1 honestly but kjaerbye cant be put in the star role.
2021-03-16 16:52
this is like North 2.0 minus trash Aizy and MSL
2021-03-16 17:01
oh yes flusha plz
2021-03-16 16:51
You think they would take a chance on a player like KennyS? He wasn't too hot at the end of G2 but everyone knows when he joins a new team he is motivated and tends to get in decent form
2021-03-16 16:54
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I think G2 will want alot for him due to marketability and just the name of kennyS. He was the poster boy for G2 until NiKo showed up and even then. And i think theyre happy with mantuu so no.
2021-03-16 17:01
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#76
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Switzerland nierg
+1 Kenny probably has a buyout thats inflated in regard to his performance. He is a legend in the game and theres lots of people that will immediately recognize his name.
2021-03-16 17:50
Ya but didn't Ocelot not sell Shox for a lot because he didn't want to hold him back or am I wrong about that? I would assume he would do the same for KennyS, but you are right in the sense of how much larger his brand is
2021-03-16 18:11
#156
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1
2021-03-17 19:46
suNny would actually be perfect for them if you think about it. Also +Michu or niko
2021-03-16 16:55
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#36
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North America joeS
sunny has been off lately though it would be risky and i dont think OG have room to be risky this time.
2021-03-16 17:01
6 replies
idk man, look at Aerial and Xseven when they got out of ence, I think suNny can do something similar, he has even played pretty decently on fpx and he is an stand-in igl so I think it is pretty impressive. He would be good under aleksib leading, not even that big of an risk.
2021-03-16 17:08
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#50
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North America joeS
I say let him do his thing in FPX for now.
2021-03-16 17:11
4 replies
I do not want him to waste his potential as a igl even if he is decent as a igl.
2021-03-16 17:12
3 replies
#56
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North America joeS
but his results do not speak for themselves yet. it is too early to make that assessments off a few matches in a honeymoon period. just wait it out
2021-03-16 17:13
2 replies
He was top 20 player before joining ence, I would take that risk if I was OG. I do not think that all of the ence players just forgot how to play suddenly when they became shit.
2021-03-16 17:15
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#62
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North America joeS
Ofc he didn't forget how to play but drop-offs in performance do happen and sunny hasn't really shown that form in a long time. im not doubting him in the long run but OG should try to get a guaranteed roster with some $ instead of taking a chance and possibly removing more players later on.
2021-03-16 17:18
Yeah honestly. Would fill NBK’s shoes well.
2021-03-16 17:06
-Aleksib +firepower +Nivera +flusha
2021-03-16 18:42
#34
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United States Valerence
“OG is a small org” ?
2021-03-16 16:57
10 replies
Why would they be big? Theyre a playerowned org that was just a dota team. And just because they have the redbull logo in their logo theyre redbulls favourite child? I think its a big compromise from OG’s behalf. But tell me why theyre so big they could buy out ropz or whoever for 1 000 000. They won 2 majors and what?
2021-03-16 17:05
9 replies
+111
2021-03-16 17:12
#88
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Brazil RevvivaL
$11 000 000 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_.. $15 500 000 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_.. Redbull sponsors OG - sponsorpitch.com/properties/og-esports#:.. Redbull also sponsors many football teams such as RB Leipzig which were in the semi-finals of the champions league last year - khelnow.com/football/red-bull-group-foot.. Its no secret Redbull have money and OGs earnings are huge, if they want to put in the investment they could buy just about anyone. They are a big org. Edit: OG has the 2nd highest winnings of all orgs in esports - esportsearnings.com/teams and if you were to divide their winnings by tournaments they earned about 314,000k per tournment they attended
2021-03-16 18:24
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"Redbull also sponsors many football teams such as RB Leipzig" Well, thats not true, they OWN Leipzig. Same with New York Red Bulls, RB Salzburg, Red Bull Bragantino, FC Liefering, Red Bull Brasil as well as a ice hockey team called EHC Red Bull München.
2021-03-16 18:58
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#153
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Brazil RevvivaL
Sure, but if anything that improves my point, shows how they have more money.
2021-03-17 19:42
1 reply
Yes of course mate :) I was just correcting you a bit :D I agree with you, OG is a VERY rich org.
2021-03-17 19:44
Everything here you said except the Ref Bull partnership part, were irrelevant. The winnings went to the players - that doesn't make them rich. If you seriously think that you can become a rich org in esports by having only one esport team, you know nothing about the business scene. You need multiple esports teams, multiple streamers, good success in esports, strong social media game and lots of merch sales to be a rich org. OG is not even in the top ten when it comes to wealthiness of esports orgs.
2021-03-21 10:10
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#186
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Brazil RevvivaL
Red Bull partnership is HUGE, don't underestimate it Clearly you have no knowledge in contracts if you think players get all the winnings, 35-50% goes to org depending on contracts so that is still millions "If you seriously think that you can become a rich org in esports by having only one esport team, you know nothing about the business scene." You have no clue what your talking about, T1 as an example "OG is not even in the top ten when it comes to wealthiness of esports orgs." Even if there not, which they probably are, they are top 20 and are still rich as fuck.
2021-03-21 19:27
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"Red Bull partnership is HUGE, don't underestimate it" - It's not as huge as you think. OG have had only one team representing RedBull for most of the partnership. It would be huge if they had like four top tier teams and few streamers representing OG and RedBull. "Clearly you have no knowledge in contracts if you think players get all the winnings, 35-50% goes to org depending on contracts so that is still millions " - No, YOU are the one who has bo clue how OG works as an org. It's a players' org. The players and other staff get almost ALL of the winnings. T1 yes, because it's an old ass org owned by three multi-billion-dollar companies :D RedBull's partnership feels like nothing when comparing to that. They definitely are not in the top 10 :D Not even close buddy :D
2021-03-21 19:41
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#190
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Brazil RevvivaL
Name 20 richer orgs. Also where do you see that player owned orgs don't have contracts that take tournament winnings? genuinely curious on that one because I could be wrong but I need a source Edit: Also my point was that they are a big org, if you win 2 TIs and have a competitive team on 2 of the big 3 esports, your a big org.
2021-03-21 20:10
OG will take Michu for sure.
2021-03-16 17:02
8/8
2021-03-16 17:07
1 reply
Thanks
2021-03-16 17:08
BnTeT & Ropz ez top 3
2021-03-16 17:10
#49
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Cyprus delur
"keep in mind OG is a small org" you cant find an org with more winnings you fucking schmuck
2021-03-16 17:11
6 replies
#41 explain and dont be toxic
2021-03-16 17:35
5 replies
#89
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Cyprus delur
they won multiple majors and 2 CONSECUTIVE INTERNATIONALS in dota2 they have more money than 9/10 orgs in the scene right now "dont be toxic" dont talk out your ass m8
2021-03-16 18:22
4 replies
Prize money goes to the players. And there are at least 6 orgs in top 30 that are richer than OG.
2021-03-21 10:19
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#179
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Cyprus delur
no there isnt look your shit up you stupid finn you must be related to that degen markorepairs
2021-03-21 14:17
2 replies
There is :D C9 Liquid NaVi G2 FaZe Fnatic OG isn't even in the top ten of richest esports orgs.
2021-03-21 14:39
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#183
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Cyprus delur
thought we were still on about the winnings fair enough
2021-03-21 15:03
Good explanation and TLDR. Now this is realistic, some people are overestimating og's capabilities way too much based on a couple titles won in the same game, years go. As it's not a constant source of income as in other organizations (where the esports revenue is higher), this money is usually invested directly without much future option, making it more volatile. (Facilities, areas...)
2021-03-16 17:23
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Basically they have none of that. They don't know how to use moneys. It's not smart to talk about their esports earnings... when they haven't had any esports earnings for a long time to pay their players' salaries
2021-03-16 17:44
you sure ropz is not realistic? his contract is about to end. aleksib, valde, mantuu, niko, ropz would be sickkkk
2021-03-16 17:12
3 replies
His contract ending? How?
2021-03-16 17:35
2 replies
no idea tbh I just saw this gossip on hltv more than once
2021-03-16 17:46
1 reply
understandable LMAOOOO
2021-03-16 18:26
FlamesZ and nivera/bubskji would be good
2021-03-16 17:12
#59
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Mongolia k0ng0
I would like to see KennyS and Sunny. Also they should have signed ZehN and Sunny at the same time instead of niko. OG should be: Valde AleksiB KennyS ZehN Sunny
2021-03-16 17:16
3 replies
i doubt zehn will leave fpx, they look pretty good atm +buyouts aswell
2021-03-16 17:28
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#115
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Mongolia k0ng0
Yeah i know, it's a shame since OG has been in need of change for a long time and during this time they could've gotten these players.
2021-03-16 19:05
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that is true, but there are still plenty of very good players available to them aswell; calyx and michu are both free agents and they could defo be potential players OG pick up, but whatever they do will be hard because mad lions are also looking to build a strong team aswell. calyx/michu/espiranto/otto all available rn, kjaerbye is benched on faze also could very well be possible, it could be just what he needs to get his career back on track
2021-03-17 00:41
#63
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Poland hillock
tudsoN, he said on stream he would announce his new team soon, and day after ISSAA gets benched
2021-03-16 17:18
1 reply
Tudson with Sunny and flusha new team
2021-03-17 04:01
#74
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Overall a good topic for OG analysis. :) I assume Olofmeister and flusha won't sign, I don't see this being a good move for them... I think niko will be a permanent fit and they will sign either MICHU for support/entry or Nivera for full-time AWP'ing. Ropz is likely but I personally don't think they will fork out the cash to get him.
2021-03-16 17:46
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+1 but k really dont think mantu will be replaced by any awper. Remember that nivera only plays some certain maps too with the awp. Its why maikelele left with godsent. They couldnt agree who should awp. Then there were other issues too.. farlig replaced him
2021-03-16 18:37
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I know teams are successful with double-AWP combos, it was the only reason I suggested Nivera but I guess Nivera isn't really needed for that, I think MICHU could work with him being a free agent.
2021-03-16 18:40
fer would be a good sign im no saying this just because im brazillian fer is a really good player, large experience (you can delete 2019 and 2020)
2021-03-16 17:50
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Would probably help them alot tbh if he can be good individually and listen to the team.
2021-03-16 18:35
fer was the real top1 in 2017
2021-03-16 19:29
u can only delete his 2020, because fer's 2019 was actually good for mibr's bad moment, hltv posted he was really close to reach the top20
2021-03-17 04:52
og is literally one of the biggest org in esports
2021-03-16 17:51
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and maybe og just get niko which will free up valde from a lot of the "solo" played sites and give him better spots. And then get a "star" riflel, ropz would be idential but i dont think its likely, maybe bubzki or someone who is aggro player
2021-03-16 17:57
3 replies
Bubzki doesnt want to leave astralis.
2021-03-16 18:34
2 replies
6man rosters have been banned by valve pretty much, why would he stay?
2021-03-16 19:30
1 reply
this
2021-03-16 20:29
Tell me why. Playerowned org that has a dota and a csgo team?
2021-03-16 18:34
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tell me why player owned org cant be big asf lmao. they obviously got great deal with red bull and have tons of money. plus they probably sold tons of merch when they won 2 TIs. "they dont have money to buy ropz" bitch pls they bought aleksib from ence and his buyout was probably bigger than ropz has.
2021-03-16 19:34
#8 – OG. #7 – Astralis. #6 – Natus Vincere. #5 – SK Telecom T1/T1 Entertainment & Sports. #4 – Evil Geniuses. #3 – Cloud9. #2 – Fnatic. #1 – Team Liquid.
2021-03-16 20:30
I can see them getting flameZ who probably isn't expensive and is a good pick up
2021-03-16 18:00
Isn't Valde already a lurker? Why do they need another one? I'd like someone who can second entry greatly and frag big like sunny, although this isn't 2018 anymore which makes me sad for him :(
2021-03-16 18:04
Finally a reasonable explanation
2021-03-16 18:15
My thoughts are : Logically, OG +MICHU +niko With my feelings : +Aerial +xseveN
2021-03-16 18:16
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+Aerial and +xseveN sound almost too perfect
2021-03-16 18:26
Flamez
2021-03-16 18:33
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Finland Vaittify
OG paid 1 million for Aleksi's buy-out so what are you talking about small org.
2021-03-16 18:36
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And new balls for allu?
2021-03-16 18:39
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Finland Vaittify
3 Red bulls
2021-03-16 18:44
I'd love to see kjaerbye to get a chance now, but with a proper lineup with igl, no like it used to be in faze
2021-03-16 18:41
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Yeah i hope so to :)
2021-03-21 22:40
2 TI winner loads of money.
2021-03-16 18:45
"keep in mind OG is a small org" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Nice joke.
2021-03-16 18:47
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2021-03-16 18:52
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Because they won MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars in Dota? Mate, they have a TON of money.
2021-03-16 18:54
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so why did they get (admittedly proven) t2 talents with aleksib and nbk? its prize money. players and the org takes them, and you have expenses. they got a gaming house for their dota 2 team for example, which the csgo team shares by the way... its still a playerowned org which i doubt has more muscles than an org like faze or g2.
2021-03-16 19:14
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"its prize money. players and the org takes them, and you have expenses." No shit Sherlock? Again, they won MILLIONS of dollars, that doesnt mean that the org need to have a stacked superstar team, lol. "its still a playerowned org which i doubt has more muscles than an org like faze or g2." They do. Again, OG is not a small org, pure bollocks mate.
2021-03-16 19:20
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youre right, they dont need a superstar team. perhaps they'll get another proven t2 players from all those benched ones currently available. Not like ropz :)
2021-03-16 19:22
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United Kingdom OneBinG_
I've never seen a more British response on this site and I'm all for it
2021-03-19 04:08
b0rup and niko
2021-03-16 18:56
I can see KennyS so much in that roster. They would have a good chemistry with him in the team.
2021-03-16 18:57
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+ kennyS and + niko? mantuu`?
2021-03-16 19:12
NEOFRAG would be great
2021-03-16 18:59
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Finland Doto_top1
niko and SuNny maybe?
2021-03-16 19:05
I would absolutely approve Michu but not niko, this niko guy seems to be flushed up just a little bit, that is why he got benched in Heroic. If i were OG i would sing some noname youngster that is hungry for improvement. Under Aleksib's mentorship he will definitely grow, like sergej did in shitce
2021-03-16 19:21
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niko did take sacrificial roles though
2021-03-16 19:22
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cmon man. I never understand people talking about sacrifisial roles. dude dupreeh has been entry fragging his whole time in astralis, and he topfrags in almost every game.
2021-03-16 19:29
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theres a difference to that though. theres a difference between just hard entry to entry. a hard entry, like rain in 2020 or a more extreme example like krystal or karrigan 2017 faze. your job is literally to just create space and be traded. thats not to say niko was a hard entry, he was the guy that sat and held B site and played retake clutches whenever teh a site failed. its why he actually managed to win some of those clutches i have hopes for him. he seems to be a player that use his brain a little mroe than ususal
2021-03-16 19:32
niko and ropz. If they dont want to spent money than niko + michu/calyx.
2021-03-16 19:33
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Croatia KraljBrk
Sunny? FlameZ? niko? Nivera? Espiranto? Xseven?
2021-03-16 19:43
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why would you mention sunny? his days on tier 1 are over
2021-03-16 20:08
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U are idiot. Sunny and flusha got new project and will be announced soon.
2021-03-17 04:05
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tattrtiatatta hummi
2021-03-17 12:02
Og small org ahahahaha you born in 2020?
2021-03-17 01:25
2 replies
Pls read thread and #41
2021-03-17 01:33
1 reply
You're wrong
2021-03-19 03:51
Just get Ropz or some good lurk or else say Bye Bye to 2021 like 2020
2021-03-17 19:55
#161
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Finland Abecsgo
Yes
2021-03-19 03:48
#163
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Malaysia AtPdTrZ
mouz as an org we excepted this we thought they might change but they will always be an upset team that has a chance to win S tier tournaments (like i rather bet on them rather then FPX) flusha we wants to be like the 4th or igl type of player so techically its possible but unlikely with his motivaton rn i mean we don't know what OG want as an org do they want to see this core in the future to like an Sk or IBP or do they actually want to make a championship lvl team
2021-03-19 04:00
#164
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United Kingdom OneBinG_
I can say with some confidence that Michu is probably joining Mad Lions, and I think that suNny and flusha are going with him. You were spot on with niko, but my guess for the 5th is somebody like Espiranto- how he's not been picked up yet baffles me.
2021-03-19 04:06
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Europe employee
A lot of people were talking about FLAMEZ last year tho? is he available?
2021-03-19 05:57
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flamez is very cheap prostitute. maybe even cheaper than your mother
2021-03-21 09:07
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Finland mattixboi
nivera would be interesting, but i guess he wouldn't fit the role
2021-03-21 09:15
>OG >small org pick one
2021-03-21 14:20
#187
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Greece m3s0v
"OG is a small org" - Yeah with RedBull as main partner and 2 TI's they are a small org. "OG +2" They already announced niko which means 1 spot is left and why tf would mouz sell ropz and frozen? Omg stop making dumb threads
2021-03-21 19:30
NiKo S1mple
2021-03-21 22:41
guys can you please read atleast someof the thread? and look at teh date posted? niko was a prediction.
2021-03-21 23:28
niko, b0rup, MICHU and fer are the realistic options Bubzkji, Nivera, ropz and frozen have high buyouts or won't leave their teams The other options are downgrades, better staying with NBK and ISSAA
2021-03-23 17:04
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Kjaerbye
2021-03-23 17:09
2 replies
+1 Forgot him niko, b0rup, Kjarbye, MICHU and fer
2021-03-23 17:26
1 reply
Aizy maybe also
2021-03-23 17:46
niko flameZ
2021-03-23 17:10
anyone from c9
2021-03-27 04:50
This was spot on damn
2021-03-27 04:52
I mean idk why people are surprised about Niko that was obvious but damn that michu pick
2021-03-27 05:07
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