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FlameZ to OG
RpK | 
France pol44r 
Thats what i want Cheap buyout, great potential, under aleksiB he can flourish /discuss
2021-03-20 19:54
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#1
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United States ShawnM
okay
2021-03-20 19:54
#2
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Russia Skengdo
flamez is 50 yo bro
2021-03-20 19:54
4 replies
0/8
2021-03-20 19:54
1 reply
na humour -ve
2021-03-20 20:40
anarkez
2021-03-20 21:58
+1
2021-03-21 14:23
"Cheap buyout" KEK. Not really.
2021-03-20 19:54
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#8
RpK | 
France pol44r
Really? I mean definitely cheaper than ropz
2021-03-20 19:55
40 replies
Cheaper than Ropz? Yes 100%. But FlameZ is not cheap mate.
2021-03-20 19:56
39 replies
why would a tier2 player be expensive
2021-03-20 19:56
27 replies
Because he is one of the best T2 players? lol. And in...about a year or so he will be even better.
2021-03-20 19:58
19 replies
ok but i doubt his buyout would be more than 60k dollars lmao
2021-03-20 19:58
18 replies
"ok but i doubt his buyout would be more than 60k dollars lmao" Depends. Mezii cost C9 83.000$ as a support player. Now imagine FlameZ.
2021-03-20 19:59
12 replies
who cars about clown9? they bought es3tag for 400k. cmon man.. you can bait better
2021-03-20 20:00
well he is going to OG not clown9
2021-03-20 20:24
8 replies
I never said that i want him in C9 or that he will join C9? So...what are you even talking about?
2021-03-20 20:27
7 replies
it was a joke about high buyouts
2021-03-20 21:33
6 replies
"high buyouts" whats you point of reference? no other team releases contract information
2021-03-21 14:20
5 replies
Yes but they are at least somehow good and do not call them “colosus” just clowns overpayed
2021-03-21 14:46
4 replies
#152
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
brain 404
2021-03-21 15:38
3 replies
Flag
2021-03-21 15:47
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#163
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
i dont like cloud9 but you’re actually delusional if you think cloud9 overpaid for players, theres literally no other official public information on player buyouts, retard
2021-03-21 15:56
1 reply
Ok Es2miltag
2021-03-21 18:16
#82
ropz | 
Germany lor3nz
the 83k wasnt the buyout, was it?
2021-03-20 22:33
1 reply
It was. twitter.com/henrygcsgo/status/1307352476.. Transfer fee: 83.000 3 year salary: 426,000
2021-03-20 22:38
I'd say 100k at least, he's their most valuable piece
2021-03-20 20:07
2 replies
only valuable piece, he won't be cheap
2021-03-20 20:42
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#71
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Brazil yakd
Well have not seen him play but it will depend on this tournament. This will be a good test for him. Based on other buyouts he pronably around 100-150k.
2021-03-20 21:08
talk to clown9 they would pay 3 mil for him
2021-03-20 20:23
60k hahaha, r u dense mate. they just bought him, he is 17 years and star player(most expensive role) potential. This guy has potential to be a 700k+ player in a couple of years.
2021-03-21 15:37
#18
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Netherlands WitnessMe
Because orgs like Endpoint can make easy money with this shit
2021-03-20 19:58
4 replies
+1 their goal is probably more to just milk out as much money as they can out of selling him, since they know they dont have what it takes to give flamez what he wants; whhich im assuming is to reach t1 and compete with the best. its a business after all
2021-03-20 20:14
epsilon is like hr,they can farm good nonamers and then sell them to bigger orgs
2021-03-21 01:02
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#103
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Netherlands WitnessMe
and proceed to not pay their player? btw epsilon != endpoint
2021-03-21 13:32
1 reply
I thought he was playing for epsilon,my bad
2021-03-21 14:09
this is why u r poor mate
2021-03-21 15:38
I think he might be actually quite espensive like when Aerial got bought from super jymy it was like 200k or smth
2021-03-21 15:48
He is cheap for the tier 1 scene, any team within the top 10 could easily afford him if they really wanted a player like him.
2021-03-20 20:40
10 replies
how tf do you know whether hes cheap or not? endpoint could easily ask something like 200k or whatever they want :)
2021-03-20 20:55
2 replies
Cmon, use your brain...
2021-03-20 21:50
1 reply
use your brain forze asked 1.5 million for fl1t :)
2021-03-20 22:45
Well duh? But, its still a risk since he plays T2-T5 teams. He never played vs T1. But he will in 5 days.
2021-03-20 21:05
6 replies
ofc it's always a risk but would u take the risk and maybe develop another broky or brollan and improve your team by a lot or would u keep your team (talking about OG obviously) as it is rn and keep performing poorly !?
2021-03-20 21:52
5 replies
Depends. I mean, i would probably bring him in on trial for 1-2 events and see how well/bad he does. Then sign him or move on to someone else.
2021-03-20 21:59
4 replies
not all teams let their players go for trials during the season and OG can't afford to say like this much longer, but if that was a possibility then sure why not
2021-03-20 22:01
3 replies
Ofc not. Thats why i doubt he will join them tbh. I believe OG will get someone more experienced and not a young talent. Depending on if Mantuu wants to rifle or AWP they could sign KennyS on the main AWP and use Mantuu as a rifler/2nd AWPer. Example: Mantuu (Rifler / 2nd AWPer) Valde (Support) Aleksib (IGL / Entry) niko (Entry) KennyS (AWPer) Not 100% sure on everyones roles but.
2021-03-20 22:05
2 replies
If you think Mantuu is leaving the awp duty any time soon you're very wrong, this is not the same as the S1mple/Guardian situation back when Na'vi signed him, Mantuu is not only a much better awper than Kenny atm but he's also one of the best international awpers out there and they'd never let go of their best player for an inconsistent one like Kenny, they need a star rifle, someone that's capable of doing what ISSA didn't and that's why FlameZ is a possibility.
2021-03-20 22:26
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Nah. Mantuu is a VERY good rifler mate. >They need a star rifler >and that's why FlameZ is a possibility. And here is one thing that you are doing wrong: You are putting pressure on a "kid" to be the "star" of the team, lol, in his first ever T1 team.
2021-03-20 22:35
#27
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Nigeria STFU_M8
his buyout is 100k
2021-03-20 20:01
3 replies
Which is kinda expensive. Also source on that ty.
2021-03-20 20:03
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#31
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Nigeria STFU_M8
flamez said that on lobanjica stream. Like a month or 2 when ence was made. Since flamez was offered a spot on ence aswell. And I do not think thats that much expensive specially for og.
2021-03-20 20:04
#32
RpK | 
France pol44r
Pretty high, but compared to others its good
2021-03-20 20:04
Yes he is definitely cheap when he is playing with bots in endpoint
2021-03-21 14:24
11 replies
No he is not. Endpoint can EASILY earn a good amount of money on him. But, its WAY too early for FlameZ to move from T3 to T1. Hes been playing T2.5-T3 CS for about 6 months now, give him at least 1 more year in T2.5-T3.
2021-03-21 15:06
4 replies
I dont know how much money he is earning from ENDPOINT but its better for him to play in better team for exp
2021-03-21 18:17
3 replies
" but its better for him to play in better team for exp" Well yes, but at the same time it could also be a bad move. OG is #17 in the world and play the best teams in the world. Endpoint is #34 and play T3-T5 teams and rarely T2-T1 teams and FlameZ struggle vs a bunch of these teams. Thats why he needs more time in this tier before he makes a HUGE jump to T1 CS.
2021-03-21 18:25
2 replies
So struggling means 1.13 rating of all time since he is in endpoint ok
2021-03-21 22:31
1 reply
Look at Endpoint stats and the other teams he played for: hltv.org/stats/players/events/16693/flam.. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/16693/fla.. Yes, he struggles vs T3-T5 teams, he needs more time before he jumps to T1.
2021-03-21 22:32
Endpoint > Sinners but ok
2021-03-21 15:41
5 replies
Where i said that endpoint is worse than sinners? Lol
2021-03-21 18:14
4 replies
you called them bots, insulting a team better than the one you support
2021-03-21 18:15
3 replies
Sinners #32 Endpoint #34 Idk who is better
2021-03-21 18:18
2 replies
ranking =/= skill level, also check back on the 29th
2021-03-21 18:37
1 reply
I mean endpoint=sinners
2021-03-21 22:32
flamez is under contract with endpoint
2021-03-20 19:54
9 replies
And what...u think that he wanna stay in t3 team instead t1?
2021-03-21 14:25
8 replies
no but i dont think og wants to buy him out, too expensive for them
2021-03-21 15:00
7 replies
Expensive? OG is one of the biggest orgs lol
2021-03-21 18:13
6 replies
yeah ik but og are a org who dont wanna spend money, they could of gotten ropz easily if they wanted because they are rich but they are unwilling to spend money on cs
2021-03-21 18:14
5 replies
So thats sad af mens(((
2021-03-21 18:17
4 replies
why else would they get danish niko, when there was so many better options? most likely because he was pretty good on heroic and he was benched so he was cheaper
2021-03-21 18:18
3 replies
I dont think that niko is bad...but he is pretty inconsistent...but we will see who will be the 5th
2021-03-21 18:20
2 replies
well yeah he aint bad, but there are better options
2021-03-21 18:22
1 reply
Maybe yes
2021-03-21 22:29
#6
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Poland Roxin
He's not quite ready for top tier cs imo
2021-03-20 19:55
6 replies
#12
RpK | 
France pol44r
I think og should and will try it.its a similar gamble they did with mantuu
2021-03-20 19:56
and mantuu hasnt really paid off yet, hes been very hit n miss for OG
2021-03-20 20:15
3 replies
I mean, its better than expected if you consider that he effectively came out of nowhere (especially if you consider he never played AWP before coming to OG), and he still has time to develop
2021-03-20 20:25
1 reply
yeah exactly, i still think he can be a very good player, he just needs settled teammates around him, because not gonna lie atm OG look very all over the place. once they settle on a solid 5 man roster, i think mantuus performances will improve a lot
2021-03-20 20:52
#162
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
he was like the 22nd best player of last year what are you on about twitter.com/tgwri1s/status/1349792644138..
2021-03-21 15:54
Still better than bymas lol
2021-03-21 14:25
Same. One of their few feasible options right now. Hopefully the org is willing to pay.
2021-03-20 19:55
3 replies
i feel like its not the right role because he wont be the star unless niko is playing nbk's roles
2021-03-20 20:13
2 replies
Niko is playing nbks roles, hes a replacement for nbk as a support
2021-03-20 20:25
1 reply
oh then flamez is obviously the man option for a replacement
2021-03-20 20:37
downgrade from issaa tbh he's not ready for tier1
2021-03-20 19:56
48 replies
also high ping aswell
2021-03-20 19:56
46 replies
#14
RpK | 
France pol44r
Not downgrade. He can move on the contrary of issaa.
2021-03-20 19:57
44 replies
he has 1.11 rating vs tier2/3 teams definitely a downgrade tbh also i doubt he will be a good lan player
2021-03-20 19:58
43 replies
#21
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Israel Redku
He’s playing bad roles in his team. He’s playing entry and has that and he had 1.19 rating in past
2021-03-20 19:59
#23
RpK | 
France pol44r
Mantuu also had 1.10, doesn't meann shit, especially as entry. And he is vaccinated and reafy to move.
2021-03-20 20:00
41 replies
ok, lets say this online era comes to an end i doubt he'll be good as issaa on lan
2021-03-20 20:01
40 replies
#28
RpK | 
France pol44r
He can become, its a gamble, a good one
2021-03-20 20:02
Wow 1.05 rating on LAN :O So good! Literally the same rating online with high ping.
2021-03-20 20:08
38 replies
??? did you take his rating from 2019? when he was a benchwarmer for most of the year lol look at 2017 and 2018 hltv.org/stats/players/10449/issaa?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/10449/issaa?start..
2021-03-20 20:09
37 replies
105 maps in 2019. That MORE than enough to judge him. Imagine showing me stats from 2,5-3,5 years back :D Go to a psychiatrist, kid - you need it.
2021-03-20 20:11
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2021-03-20 20:12
35 replies
57 actually. Issaa is so ass at this game so I'm so happy they kicked him <3
2021-03-20 20:15
34 replies
it literally says 5 hltv.org/stats/players/10449/issaa?start.. also even 1.00 rating he's better than anyone on his team by a huge margin lmao (other than woxic) hobbit: 0.80. ange1: 0.63, deadfox: 0.71
2021-03-20 20:16
33 replies
You have a top 20 filter on you dumb mentally ill poor fuck :DDDD EDIT: ISSAA sucks ass
2021-03-20 20:18
32 replies
ok? i chose when hr was relevant mad aleksidog fan spotted
2021-03-20 20:18
31 replies
Poor 3rd worlder spotted :DDDD EDIT: ISSAA is so shiet :DDD
2021-03-20 20:19
30 replies
hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/76087/.. aleksibot woke up dangerous 🔥🔥🔥
2021-03-20 20:21
29 replies
hltv.org/stats/matches/47811/havu-vs-hel.. even more dangerous 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
2021-03-20 20:24
Lmao WOOW, one game :DDD Aleksi's career after that: / Issaa's career: \ AleksiGOD will play for top teams for the rest of his career and Issaa PFFFFTT stays malding in 3rd world Jordania with you :DDDDD
2021-03-20 20:24
27 replies
im ukranian you perkele aleksibot will be benched for sunny for firepower /close
2021-03-20 20:25
26 replies
Imagine being from a 3rd world country :DDDDD You are so poor that you are obsessed with OG because they lost all of your money. POOR :DDD Its closed* by the way :DDDDD
2021-03-20 20:28
25 replies
Imagine being Finnish lol. Literally Mongol-Swede abomination lol.
2021-03-21 14:33
24 replies
🥱 You can't take disses towards Finns seriously. You dogs can bark as much as you want but we are superior compared to you. 🥱
2021-03-21 14:42
23 replies
Lmao Finno-Urgic """""banter""""" The only thing finns are superior at is being autistic about Sauna, social distancing and depression.
2021-03-21 14:49
22 replies
bark🥱
2021-03-21 14:53
21 replies
big talk coming from east sweden lol.
2021-03-21 14:54
20 replies
I think you're stuck in 19th century - just like your 3rd world country lmaooo
2021-03-21 14:57
19 replies
And you're a mongorian stuck in Scandinavia lmao. Imagine talking money game when your entire wealth is just cold war era and EU common market gibs.
2021-03-21 14:59
18 replies
#126🥱 cry me river Actually, cry it to yourself since you are probably out of clean water.
2021-03-21 15:01
17 replies
Lol i work in the Gulf. Probably richer than you'll ever be Siberian mulatto. I would tell you to cry more but you're probably already so depressed that any more will make you kys. Typical Finn behavior tbh.
2021-03-21 15:04
16 replies
Can't hear you from 25th floor, sorry mate😬
2021-03-21 15:08
15 replies
Do a barrel roll after you jump lol. Make your suicide fun to watch at least.
2021-03-21 15:09
14 replies
You know our country is superior when the biggest problem for a guy from a terrorist country is that some emo girls commit suicides. Your people can't even commit suicides because they are already dead due to multiple problems in your shithole country :DDDDD
2021-03-21 15:16
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LOL you're so full on EU money gibs and you still have higher homocide and suicide rates. If anything it's "men" like you who kill themselves because that have tiny siberian penises.
2021-03-21 15:21
12 replies
You want my assistant's phone number so you can cry her about your problems? I don't really have time for poor 3rd world terrorists...
2021-03-21 15:25
11 replies
Lol Lierally both wherea i am from and where i live are safer tthan your shitty tundra cry is free
2021-03-21 15:30
10 replies
:-D
2021-03-21 15:31
9 replies
Me 8=========D You 8=D
2021-03-21 15:33
8 replies
:-D
2021-03-21 15:33
7 replies
.l.
2021-03-21 15:35
6 replies
3rd world
2021-03-21 15:37
5 replies
Depressed mongorian
2021-03-21 15:39
4 replies
how can you still see messages, you are arguing off the side of the page, I can't even see what i am typing right now
2021-03-21 15:43
how can you still see messages, you are arguing off the side of the page, I can't even see what i am typing right now
2021-03-21 15:43
Don't bark at me 3rd worlder :D Get yo ugly disease ass out of here. I'm superior - we ares superior. Get on your knees and praise us.
2021-03-21 15:45
1 reply
Sorry i can't hear you from down there ugly siberian mideget speak louder
2021-03-21 15:50
50-60 ping, thats decent
2021-03-20 20:38
Looool +999
2021-03-21 14:26
i dont think they'll get him because they already got an entry so i dont think they'll get another one unlucko for flamez
2021-03-20 19:57
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#20
RpK | 
France pol44r
They can have 2 entries, especially since aleksiB likes such micromanagement as to have 2 aggressive players at any time. I don't think rolz iis an obstacle
2021-03-20 19:59
Many players in the HLTV Top20 of last year, picked him as the rising star/upcoming talent for this year. I honestly don't have the faintest idea of why (my bad). I am definitely interested to see what new talents bring to the table!
2021-03-20 20:00
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#30
RpK | 
France pol44r
Not a shame to not know! Pros like him, and especially fpl regulars, because he is so easy to run with, great aim, good teammate, he is basically Israeli Yekindar (less aggressive tho).
2021-03-20 20:03
1 reply
That's awesome. With riflers like NBK and issaa gone, they really need players like Yekindar.
2021-03-20 20:16
He is rly good bro i wanna see him play in good team
2021-03-21 14:27
There are plenty decent players with 0 buyouts.
2021-03-20 20:11
1 reply
Who is decent player with 0 buyout tell me pls
2021-03-21 14:27
++++++++++++++11++++
2021-03-20 20:25
2 replies
FlameZ best arab player xD
2021-03-21 13:36
1 reply
true
2021-03-21 14:15
Could be nice but he was playing faceit when OG pracced with the possible new one.
2021-03-20 20:49
who the fuck is flamez?
2021-03-20 20:52
1 reply
some men from israel, pretty good player
2021-03-20 22:50
endpoint>og soon))))
2021-03-20 20:53
#70
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Germany sterzik
its prolly gonna be kjaerbye tho
2021-03-20 21:07
11 replies
I dont think so but if i will be so happy for this guy
2021-03-21 14:28
10 replies
#164
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Germany sterzik
2021-03-21 17:08
9 replies
I don't see anyone relevant replying?
2021-03-21 17:13
8 replies
#166
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Germany sterzik
Hmm, weird i dont see any relevant replies to my post... Damn
2021-03-21 17:14
7 replies
Nah, I'm serious. I don't see any pro player replying to that post.
2021-03-21 17:16
6 replies
#171
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Germany sterzik
Dude that kjaerbye was shit under Niko doesnt mean anything, look at bymas or rain ffs. He was Godtier in both dignitas and astralis and then had to witness the team he left become the best to ever play CS without him. Cut the guy some slack
2021-03-21 17:23
5 replies
HOMIE, I DON'T SEE ANY PRO PLAYERS THAT HAVE COMMENTEND UNDER THAT POST.
2021-03-21 18:05
4 replies
#186
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Germany sterzik
wdym kjaerbye did
2021-03-21 18:24
3 replies
Can you link it because I can't see it? EDIT: Now I saw it. You just linked the wrong tweet.
2021-03-21 19:01
2 replies
#190
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Germany sterzik
dude you gotta click on the thread
2021-03-21 19:04
1 reply
You said that he responded to the main tweet although he replied to niko's tweet.
2021-03-21 19:07
Motm to og!
2021-03-20 22:26
1 reply
He is not even good in t50 NA lol
2021-03-21 14:29
loooooooooool ISSA is probably pissed they replace him with an israeli XDD
2021-03-20 22:28
11 replies
#86
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Israel Redku
Idk. He played with Spinx in fpl before and they don’t seem to hate each other. He’s Jordanian also not Palestinian so maybe he wouldn’t be angry
2021-03-20 22:49
6 replies
I am wondering whether FlameZ needs to take military service immediately after he turns 18?
2021-03-20 22:55
I just assumed all arabs hates jews. I remember one time an Iranian chess player got thrown in prison for playing with an israeli, but Idk how shit works down there.
2021-03-21 00:56
2 replies
#95
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Israel Redku
Iranians aren’t Arabs tho. Either way, a lot of Arabs hate Jews but no reason to be bigoted against them since a lot of them are nice people and don’t hate Jews.
2021-03-21 01:01
1 reply
yes I am aware
2021-03-21 03:41
the old OG dota roster had a jordanian player (miracle) and an israeli player (fly) and they won 2 majors together lol
2021-03-21 05:35
1 reply
oh cool
2021-03-21 12:23
#99 israelis and jordanians dont dislike each other
2021-03-21 05:35
Lol +1...finally smart american mens)))
2021-03-21 14:30
might sound funny but jordan is actually one of the more liberal/open minded countries compared to the rest of middle east or islamic countries, so im sure jordanians dont really hate israelis
2021-03-21 19:18
1 reply
interesting
2021-03-25 20:42
the problem with those young talents is that they need the perfect role to really frag. FlameZ probably needs a lot of space...
2021-03-20 22:51
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#91
RpK | 
France pol44r
he plays entry and bitch role in endpoint XD the contrary of space taker,he makes a lot of it
2021-03-20 23:00
2 replies
yeah but to make him shine maybe put him in a tandem w/ valde... and find a guy who is willing to be the bitch... +NBK would be a smart move imo, Idk why OG never considered it (:
2021-03-20 23:04
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#93
RpK | 
France pol44r
idk he is really similar to yekindar , just let mantuu clucth behind and let him go wild
2021-03-20 23:06
Noo issaa back strong
2021-03-20 22:57
1 reply
+1
2021-03-21 15:20
#105
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Lithuania ElephantX
Best move for him 100%
2021-03-21 13:37
OG sucks, it would be a waste of talent
2021-03-21 14:17
4 replies
better than endpoint anyway
2021-03-21 14:31
3 replies
flamez could get on a better team than 0G
2021-03-21 14:32
2 replies
How much?
2021-03-21 14:43
Ye but he can wait maybe 2-3years
2021-03-21 18:12
+1111111
2021-03-21 14:18
-1
2021-03-21 14:27
It makes sense why they kicked ISSA now... can't have Israeli and arab on same team.
2021-03-21 17:16
1 reply
#170
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Turkey yeeGeT
xxdd
2021-03-21 17:21
#169
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Turkey yeeGeT
He is not fabulous enough.
2021-03-21 17:21
#181
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Saudi Arabia Xpicyy
I don't he can do that or they're willing to offer him 1 year contract until he joins the army?
2021-03-21 18:18
#191
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India SKS_1337
Get Frozen and Ropz. Don't waste time on Flamez. OG is too old already.
2021-03-21 19:04
#199
RpK | 
France pol44r
Well kids, we did it
2021-04-09 13:04
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