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Sebastian Vettel
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Israel 20_INCH_BONG 
How can this guy have multiple world championships? Formula 1 is all about the car, drivers are just passengers. Engineers are the real heroes.
2021-04-06 10:46
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cuz he is good
2021-04-06 10:49
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the year is 2021 not 2012, your opinion is no longer valid
2021-04-08 09:33
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Well he is still in the best formula "league" so he IS still good
2021-04-08 09:37
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#72
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Sweden Mejtz
so mazepin is good?
2021-04-08 12:40
5 replies
No, he does not deserve to be there, thats another story
2021-04-08 12:45
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#80
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Sweden Mejtz
but he is in the best formula "league" so he must be good?
2021-04-08 14:58
3 replies
Not really, his dad just payed his seat, Mazepin is a dirty driver and stupid person, he does not deserve a seat
2021-04-08 15:02
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#89
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Sweden Mejtz
but you said vettel is good for being in the best formula "league"? i see some bias here
2021-04-08 18:43
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Vettel is in F1 because he deserves it - unlike Mazepin Mazepin is the only exception, its not a bias and you know I am right
2021-04-08 18:46
not exactly there is some skilled involved in driving too, but yeah engineers get less of the credits.
2021-04-06 10:49
#3
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Sweden KhT
it was always like this did you realized it now?
2021-04-06 10:50
Formula 1 is all about the car, drivers are just passengers. Engineers are the real heroes. and some drivers has rich parents
2021-04-06 10:51
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Lance Stroll with daddy's cash
2021-04-06 11:00
13 replies
exactly
2021-04-06 11:00
5 replies
Now, do you think if he lost most of the backing he has now, would he find a seat for 2022
2021-04-06 11:02
4 replies
For now I don't see him in next year , but a lot depends how good/how many points he do in this year . Maybe other team will want him
2021-04-06 11:04
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You know that Lawrence Stroll bought a share of Aston Martin stocks right? I think Lance will keep his seat at AM for the near future.
2021-04-08 08:16
of course not
2021-04-06 11:20
1 reply
Not gonna lie he has started to raise his head as a solid bottom of midfield to a backmarker driver, if he has at least some financial backing I can't see him having too many difficulties finding a seat.
2021-04-08 08:15
Lance is a pretty good driver, mazepin is trash pay driver though
2021-04-06 11:11
6 replies
Dont forget about Latifi
2021-04-06 11:12
5 replies
Latifi isn't thaaat bad
2021-04-06 11:40
Latifi isn't Mazepin, MazeSbin on a whole different level of bad compared to latifi.
2021-04-08 08:16
2 replies
Still a pay driver
2021-04-08 09:19
Mazepin, he still holds the Record for having more formation laps in f1 than actual race laps
2021-04-08 09:50
We have Norris as well but that guy drives good.
2021-04-08 15:01
Cuz he won them
2021-04-06 11:00
Vettel seems a bit washed rn but he was good in the early 2010s
2021-04-06 11:00
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good yes best no
2021-04-06 11:21
he's a really good driver, especially in rainy weather.
2021-04-06 11:03
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He has seemed kinda washed since 2018 tho, we don't know if he can even get back to his former self.
2021-04-08 08:17
#13
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Poland dawido0305
man in his prime he was the best driver in whole history. In 2010 when he had 3rd best car he won championship, in 2012 as having 2nd best car he won so it's not all about car. Bahrain this year had shown us this that even tho red bull is better than merc Lewis still won it.
2021-04-06 11:05
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you are completely drunk my friend
2021-04-06 11:21
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#26
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Poland dawido0305
French person telling me that I am drunk lmao. Have you been watching f1 then kiddo?
2021-04-06 11:24
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so, better than schumacher, hamilton, senna, and magically better than latifi? hm
2021-04-08 15:19
I wouldn't say that he was the best in the history of the sport by any stretch, he was very good, perhaps the best driver on the grid, but not even close to the all time greats. What comes to 2021 Bahrain the race wasn't down to Lewis, it was more the brilliant strategy decision of Mercedes that won Lewis the race. With that was the track limits bs, they changed the track limits in T4 mid-race, which led to a lot of confusion. Max's pass on Lewis was all clear, but in the end, the win came down to the team of Mecredes and not so much Lewis. Although Lewis paid a big part in the win, he wasn't the sole reason he won. Same goes with Vettel in the 2010 season, he might have not had the best car on the grid, but RB strategy back then was better than anyone else.
2021-04-08 08:22
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#61
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Poland dawido0305
I could agree with that but still tyre management from Lewis made work so it was both cases that caused a win for Lewis
2021-04-08 09:35
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That is why I said that lewis played a big part in that race as well, but this time it wasn't outright dominance and he wouldn't have been even close to max if merc went with a similar strategy call as rb
2021-04-08 10:50
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#70
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Poland dawido0305
of course but still it had shown that it's not all bout car
2021-04-08 11:54
In 2010 he had the best car on the grid hands down. Expected from Polako to be wrong tho
2021-04-08 08:53
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#63
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Poland dawido0305
roman telling me I am wrong when I am saying truth lmao, even Mclaren said that they had the best car in 2010
2021-04-08 09:36
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mclaren maybe the fastest but not the most reliable. This was their downfall in many years (2003, 2005, etc..)
2021-04-08 12:48
I wouldn‘t say that rb had the third best car in 2010. they just had major reliability issues, but still seb managed to pull through.
2021-04-08 15:19
#14
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Spain SS_SS
he was good back in the day, also rb had a monser downforce car that suited vettel driving like a glove
2021-04-06 11:08
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Red bull also has maybe one of the greatest geniuses in f1 car design in Adrian Newey.
2021-04-06 11:11
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#17
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Spain SS_SS
yes, newey is one of the greats, without him SB wouldnt have had the chance
2021-04-06 11:12
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He would have had the chance, probably even won a championship, but not 4.
2021-04-08 08:22
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#57
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Spain SS_SS
+1
2021-04-08 09:19
Is he a caster?
2021-04-06 11:12
so next thing you will do is judging michael schumacher by his mercedes years? vettel is washed up, but he was not always like that
2021-04-06 11:15
He was better than the rest of the field
2021-04-06 11:18
yes +1 apart for some insane drivers but vettel is not part of them
2021-04-06 11:19
He was never quite the same rider after regulation changes and a switch to V6 engines in 2014.
2021-04-06 11:25
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I wouldn't go that far. I think Vettel lost in the middle of the 2018 season, at Germany spinning out and crashing. Ferrari looked mega quick that year, arguably the best car that Ferrari has made in the v6 hybrid era thus far. After that he has been really bad. In my opinion from when he joined ferrari to 2017 ferrari didn't build cars that were up to the challenge of competing with the mercs every weekend.
2021-04-08 08:26
People really underestimate how good he was in 2015, he was not that far off rosberg and mercedes had such a dominant car that year. 2014 was a tough year for him but he managed to bounce back. I don't know if he'll bounce back from the other half of 2018 season, after that it's been downhill first 2019 and then 2020. First race in 2021 didn't look good either but we'll have to see more races to first of all determine the mid field pecking order
2021-04-08 12:54
I don't really love Seb or anything but you cannot tell me Monza 2008 or 9 wins in a row in 2013 was all luck and that anyone could've done what he did at those times. Judging someone based on their worst years of their careers is crappy and a disrespect. Imagine if we judged Schumi based on his Merc years
2021-04-06 11:32
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+1 Younger fans dont remember those season that well. Yes Red Bull had the best car when Vettel was winning championships but car was nothing like this current Mercedes era.
2021-04-08 15:06
#30
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Germany X5ander
thats true yes. For me it would be interesting, if all the drivers have the same car. The current version i don't watch.
2021-04-06 11:35
3 replies
Go watch IndyCar then
2021-04-06 11:41
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F2 has better racing than F1 currently, you can't deny that, let's just all hope that the 2022 regs change that F1 has good racing as well.
2021-04-08 08:27
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#53
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Russia Thfthf
By the way Vettel was like another league when winning in Formula Renault - it was one of pre F1 series.
2021-04-08 08:32
#31
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Bulgaria gosholin
The wall in Hockenheim 2018 took his talent
2021-04-06 11:35
1 reply
Exactly what I think
2021-04-08 08:28
#34
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Finland hltv_b8r
stealing paychecks
2021-04-06 11:41
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I commend anyone stealing paychecks from Lawrence Stroll
2021-04-06 12:07
Cuz he good until Hockenheim 2018
2021-04-06 12:12
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That is how it seems mate.
2021-04-08 08:28
Vettel won with Toro Rosso very strong car yes
2021-04-06 12:14
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#49
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Russia Thfthf
That was just a car able to win a race at the moment. Some torro rosso drivers got podiums as well.
2021-04-08 08:28
#44
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Russia Thfthf
The same is about Hamilton. The last real champion was Alonso in Renault.
2021-04-08 08:25
5 replies
How about Jenson in the Brawn GP car?
2021-04-08 08:29
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#55
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Russia Thfthf
Dont you remember how it was, he and Barrichello won almost every race at the first part of the season because of the new diffuser. That was annoying to watch.
2021-04-08 08:38
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Fair enough, but how about 2007 when Kimi won by one point from both Hamilton and Alonso
2021-04-08 10:58
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#71
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Russia Thfthf
Yeah youre right I was inaccurate, Kimi and then Lewis in McLaren were true champions imo. The era of one team dominance has started from Brawn. There were seasons of dominance in past but those were few in a row and then some challenge again. Now it lasts already for 11 years...
2021-04-08 12:38
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If you are looking for close seasons the 2012 was also very, very close with Vettel beating Alonso by only 3 points and with the first 7 races having 7 different race winners I would say that was a very competitive season.
2021-04-13 07:07
cuz he goat
2021-04-08 08:29
#52
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World Notb8ing
He used to be better I think.
2021-04-08 08:30
F1 is about the car AND the talent. George Russell on last season is a good example of that, he was already pushing the worst car in the grid to a decent place but with Mercedes he just destroyed everyone. Sebastian Vettel was on the same path. He has already shown a spark of talent with Toro Rosso by winning a race and making them pass the senior team. But whatever the fuck happened at Hockenheim seems to steal his talents and now he is a sBinnala artist.
2021-04-08 08:32
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Yeah times change :(
2021-04-08 15:16
#59
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Latvia Zigis
Bahrein was worringly bad for Vettel...
2021-04-08 09:26
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It definitely wasn't great, but we'll have to see how he does in the next races. I'm still hoping he can bounce back and I don't think we can judge that based on Bahrain, started from the back because of bad luck in Q1 and the car didn't have the pace to climb back to points so they kept him out on old tires hoping for safety car or something. but the accident with Ocon was pretty bad. If he gets beat by Stroll this year I think it'll be the final nail in the coffin even though I dont think Stroll is as bad as people say he is.
2021-04-08 13:00
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#88
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Latvia Zigis
I really hope he doesn't end his career 12th or something...
2021-04-08 16:22
He is kinda washed up.Like other cs pros.But lewis is still strong as before
2021-04-08 09:35
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lewis :DDD
2021-04-08 18:51
lewis's car is still strong as before
2021-04-13 07:16
pls i want to be in mercedes i want to win championship.
2021-04-08 09:44
who?
2021-04-08 10:53
the same way Michael is world champion? the same way senna was , prost , HAMILTON especially?
2021-04-08 12:42
I also wonder why he does so many mistakes.
2021-04-08 12:52
he had an unbeatable car
2021-04-08 12:54
And there is another guy that started watching F1 in the last few years. He is simply out of his prime.
2021-04-08 15:15
#91
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Finland JmNn1
bad
2021-04-08 18:47
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#93
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Finland drop_awp
bad
2021-04-08 18:49
1 reply
#94
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Finland JmNn1
bed
2021-04-08 18:49
maaan shut the fuck up dumbass hoe
2021-04-08 18:50
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#96
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Finland JmNn1
lamo lulw kekwed
2021-04-08 18:50
4 replies
retard
2021-04-08 18:50
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#100
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Finland JmNn1
racist
2021-04-08 18:51
2 replies
me and you
2021-04-08 18:51
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#103
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Finland JmNn1
pus
2021-04-08 18:51
I wonder, when will Williams get better because that cars are damn too slow.
2021-04-08 18:48
2021 and now u understand that? Best car wins every season it doesnt matter who drives it.
2021-04-08 18:50
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+1 mostly, Driver makes only a minor difference. George Russel sits in a Mercedes and instantly destroys... Most drivers in F1 would win if you gave them the best car.
2021-04-13 12:29
Because he got them in 2010-13?
2021-04-08 18:51
idk but Kubica better
2021-04-08 18:58
not really true... driver matters more than you think... in fact drivers are everything in F1
2021-04-13 07:12
still better than Hamilton
2021-04-13 07:16
some are only good when young some only when older, some are consistent throughout.Unfortunately vettel's best days have passed and he was unable to make ferrari suit him or adapt to the car he didn't like. His first year with charles showed that to everyone i think and maybe he wasn't even good before that- when he failed to be a proper title challenger. Unfortunate, but i think everyone will cherish 2010-2013. This was the time when i was getting into f1
2021-04-13 07:18
#110
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Serbia OgiNish
Vettel was not good he was the best 2010-2013, but his prime is over sadly, we cant do anything about it, you better find someone else to support.
2021-04-13 12:17
#111
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Finland OGx
Fluked through redbull program
2021-04-13 12:26
won with Toro Rosso and teammate wasnt good enough. imo 2020 was a joke and 2019 showed he had a clear dip. AM is weaker than last year and its a single race where he got fucked by mazepin spin and risky tactic staying out ages on mediums
2021-04-13 12:29
#114
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Canada dpq
Kubica > Vettel
2021-04-13 12:30
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